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Title: 9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE (FLIGHT DECK DOOR CLOSED FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT)
Source: pilotsfor911truth.org
URL Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/american_77_hijack_impossible.html
Published: Nov 27, 2009
Author: unk
Post Date: 2009-11-27 21:43:30 by rack42
Keywords: 911, pentagon, flight 77
Views: 1775
Comments: 118

(PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled "FLT DECK DOOR", cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, "...all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers..."[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?[3]

Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack, the events in Shanksville, PA and the World Trade Center attack. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials along with Mainstream Media refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.

== [3] Right click and save target as here to download csv file with "FLT DECK DOOR" parameter.

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#1. To: rack42 (#0)

Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes

No need to read further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   21:56:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1) (Edited)

No need to read further.

So, how should I interpret that statement? And why don't you say what you mean?

[edit] And why not make plain what you mean.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   22:52:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rack42 (#2)

So, how should I interpret that statement?

"Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence "

Opening statement is self explanatory.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   22:55:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

"Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence "

Opening statement is self explanatory.

So, here we go again.

You base your opinion on what? Is an "independent researcher and computer programmer" from Australia somehow deficient in determining that the program used by the glowber warmers is a fraud?

And, no, the opening statement is only self-explanatory to you.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:01:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rack42 (#4)

You base your opinion on what?

Opinion????

Show me where I stated an opinion.

You posted something about a "researcher" and a "programmer", no names, no credentials, nothing, there fore, no need to read any further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   23:03:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

Know what, you got your responces crossed (as did I).

This thread is about flight 77.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rack42 (#6)

Nope. Didnt bother to read any further.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27   23:09:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Nope. Didnt bother to read any further.

Well, thanks for not bothering to look at the data. It would have confounded you and who knows what you would have said then.

Jeez.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27   23:19:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: All (#8)

Recorder info: two files, one "original," one showing just Door data

http://www.warrenstutt.com/AAL77FDRDecoder/OutputFiles/FinalFlightComplete.csv

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XX44XLUH

caveat: door data updated every 4 seconds so if Hani Hanjour got really lucky he could get into the cockpit without the data recorder noting the opening of the door.

rack42  posted on  2009-11-27 23:25:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rack42 (#8)

Well, thanks for not bothering to look at the data.

Be glad to read anything bearing the names and credential of people that would be given credibility by those of known expertise in any such manner.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-11-27 23:33:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: rack42, Cynicom, RickyJ, All (#8)

Most interesting post on http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php? showtopic=18405 by a poster named Rob Balsamo. Some things to chew on for skeptics. And we should all be skeptical whatever our orientation in regard to this topic.

Wow, this article is going viral. Over 1000 people logged onto this thread alone at this time. We're setting records today.

I took a stroll around the net to see the excuses made by a select few who blindy follow anything the govt tells them. I'll address them here for now.

Claim - How can anyone trust data from some anonymous guy in Australia?

A. We agree, but he is not really anonymous. He does give his name, but we werent able to ask him if he wanted his name used in the article. That is why we cross checked it with our own data we received from the NTSB. You can also get your own directly from the NTSB as we did. Visit ntsb.gov and fill out their FOIA request form online.

Claim - Does the cockpit door show open for the pilots to get in?

A. No, it shows closed for entire flight. The FDR starts recording when the engines are started. Clearly the pilots would be in their seats and cabin/flight deck secure during this phase of flight.

Claim - Does the FDR record if the door is open or closed?

A. Clearly it does. It says closed for the entire flight and was confirmed by the Data Frame Layout provided by the NTSB and a pilot who has flight time in this exact 757 at American Airlines.

Claim - The sensor must have failed.

A. Speculation, but if the sensor failed, it would "ding" the FDR that a sensor has failed during self-diagnosis. If the FDR is inoperative, the airplane is not allowed to take-off. The sensor was operative. People who make this claim, would also have to prove the sensor fails in the closed position.

Claim - The hijackers kicked in the door and jammed the sensor in the closed position.

A. Again, pure speculation based on incredulity. But the fact remains, the data shows the door as closed, the altitude too high to hit the Pentagon, Vertical speed too great for level off as seen in DoD 5 frames video, the list goes on. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment on such blatant conflict with the govt story.

Claim - The bird strike which took out the Flight Data Recorder prior to impact also took out the door sensor 30 mins prior to impact.

A. Not really a claim made by "duhbunkers" at this point in time, but give it a few days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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