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Title: Some toy drives check immigration status
Source: Houston Chronic
URL Source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6746254.html
Published: Nov 30, 2009
Author: Jeannie Kever
Post Date: 2009-12-02 00:39:21 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 124
Comments: 7

They don't claim to know who's been naughty or nice, but some Houston charities are asking whether children are in the country legally before giving them toys.

In a year when more families than ever have asked for help, several programs providing Christmas gifts for needy children require at least one member of the household to be a U.S. citizen. Others ask for proof of income or rely on churches and schools to suggest recipients.

The Salvation Army and a charity affiliated with the Houston Fire Department are among those that consider immigration status, asking for birth certificates or Social Security cards for the children.

The point isn't to punish the children but to ensure that their parents are either citizens, legal immigrants or working to become legal residents, said Lorugene Young, whose Outreach Program Inc. is one of three groups that distribute toys collected by firefighters.

“It's not our desire to turn anyone down,” she said. “Those kids are not responsible if they are here illegally. It is the parents' responsibility.”

The idea of a charity turning away children because of decisions made by their parents unsettled some immigration activists. (Waahh!-Waaahhh!)

“It is very disturbing to think a holiday like Christmas would be tainted with things like this,” said Cesar Espinoza, executive director of America for All, a Houston-based advocacy group. “Usually, people target the adults because the adults made the decision to migrate, where the children are just brought through no fault of their own.”

Other groups don't require specific documentation, relying instead on outside groups to recommend families.

“When you distribute toys to 10,000 to 12,000 kids, it's impossible to background (check) every child,” said Fred Joe Pyland, a Houston police officer who oversees the Blue Santa program. Blue Santa doesn't consider immigration status but collects names from police officers, schools and churches.

Those who do check immigration status or other qualifications say they are trying to ensure they make the best decisions about whom to help.

“We want to be good stewards, so the people that are donating to us trust we're going to do the right thing,” said Sonya Scott, manager of care ministries at West Houston Assistance Ministries. The group does not check immigration but requires identification, including birth certificates for children, and proof of income.

It has registered 686 children to provide with gifts this year, up from 613 last year.

At the Salvation Army, 30,000 children have registered for the Angel Tree program, which allows children to request the gifts they want most. That's up 20 percent from last year, spokesman Juan Alanis said.

Gifts for all children

Alanis and Young say they will serve families if the children are here legally, regardless of the parents' status. The Salvation Army provides gifts for all children in the family if one sibling is a citizen.

The Outreach Program requires parents to show photo identification and birth certificates or Social Security cards for the children. Young said she makes an exception if parents can show they have applied for legal status or that a child is enrolled in school.

Alicia White, a spokeswoman for the Fire Department, said it is up to each group distributing toys to decide how to do so. The other groups giving out toys collected by firefighters — Catholic Charities and the Hispanic Firefighters Caucus— do not ask about immigration status.

Participants in the Houston Chronicle's Goodfellows toy drive were selected by the Texas Health and Human Services Commission, chosen from those with children between the ages of 2 and 10 who receive food stamps, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families and Medicaid. People who aren't legal residents don't qualify for those services, but others in their household may.

Pre-registration closed Most local toy drives are no longer accepting applications, although the Outreach Program doesn't pre-register recipients, so families needing gifts for their children will line up Dec. 23 at 1305 Benson.

One of the season's first big toy distribution events will be Saturday at the George R. Brown Convention Center, when 2,520 children from 63 area elementary schools will be treated to gifts by Navidad En El Barrio.

Israel Gomez, a retired Houston police officer who runs the program, said the kids are asked to donate one can of food.

Navidad En El Barrio draws participants from schools with a high percentage of students who qualify for free lunches.

For programs that select recipients themselves, deciding what documentation to require can be tricky. Alanis said the Salvation Army traditionally has required photo identification and proof of income and legal residency to ensure help reaches those most in need and to prevent people from registering at multiple Salvation Army locations.

Catholic Charities doesn't ask for proof of income or immigration status. But it does require identification and birth certificates to ensure people actually have the number of children they claim, spokeswoman Julissa Guerrero Chappell said.


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#1. To: X-15 (#0) (Edited)

That's one reason I don't give to charities like this any more. I also no longer contribute to food drives.

If I knew one checked immigration status, I'd be a lot more likely to give to it.

Ideal of course would be a white charity. With the sole(!) exception of representatives for The Salvation Army, I no longer give to non-whites who solicit outside stores and other places.

It would still feel good of course to give to them. But that's not good enough of a reason.

If a nation expects to be diverse and free, it expects what never was and never will be.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-12-02   0:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#1)

The Salvation Army,

Good people, good charity.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-02   1:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: farmfriend (#2)

Target kicked them off their property. Their enemy is my enemy.

I don't actually know what the Army's success rate is, but it can't possibly be worse than the PC alternatives.

If a nation expects to be diverse and free, it expects what never was and never will be.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-12-02   2:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#3)

Unlike the Red Cross, I've never heard anything bad about them.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-02   2:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   7:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   7:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: farmfriend (#4) (Edited)

Unlike the Red Cross, I've never heard anything bad about them.

The Salvation Army is the one organization we have always given to, because we always heard such a large percentage of their "take" actually went to the people they served. One year when we were in the black, we gave a very large check to them. Later we heard that the one we had given it to had been arrested for embezzling. That may have been a fluke, and I wouldn't have mentioned it, except that I recently read a blip about some ominous connections. Quick search:

List of famous masons and rosicrucians [see "Replies to This Discussion" re: red shield and Rothschild.]

http://endtimedeception.ning.com...list-of-famous-masons-and

...and the links:

Salvation Army and Freemasonry.
http://www.firstplumbline.net/sa...my/salvationarmytemp.html

International Heritage Centre: Tainted money
[Rothschild link?] http://www1.salvationarmy.org.uk...706D00552D81?openDocument

Freemasons believes they can cancel out their evil works by doing "good" works.

The "U.S. citizen" [small "c"] pays taxes to the Rothschilds. Christians and others are coming out [or trying to] of that jurisdiction in droves I hear. That may or may not be a not-spoken reason for not gifting the children without Rothschild's seal on their heads.

“It is very disturbing to think a holiday like Christmas would be tainted with things like this,” said Cesar Espinoza, executive director of America for All, a Houston-based advocacy group. “Usually, people target the adults because the adults made the decision to migrate, where the children are just brought through no fault of their own.”

Other groups don't require specific documentation, relying instead on outside groups to recommend families.

“When you distribute toys to 10,000 to 12,000 kids, it's impossible to background (check) every child,” said Fred Joe Pyland, a Houston police officer who oversees the Blue Santa program. Blue Santa doesn't consider immigration status but collects names from police officers, schools and churches.

Sticky situation....too bad people like Rothschild deliberately put us there. If he and his crony vipers hadn't been robbing us all blind all these years, there wouldn't be so many destitute people in America. What would Jesus do? Hmmm. Tough one. Deep in our hearts we know the answer, but we reject it. Because we've been ripped off. Because we're angry and tired of being dumped on. Because it got this Christian nation where we are today: one run by antichrist Jews. Maybe God has a plan. All I know is what the Bible says:

Leviticus 19:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God. bible.cc/leviticus/19-34.htm / bible.cc/exodus/22-21.htm

"The Greatest Commandment and the Parable of the Good Samaritan

Jesus engaged in much public debate with the Pharisees and Sadducees, two Jewish factions that opposed Him and his teachings. It was during one of these debates that Jesus stated the Greatest Commandment:

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (NIV, Mark 12:28-31).

"Love your neighbor as yourself" was part of the Old Testament law (Leviticus 19:18). But the Jewish teachers had often interpreted "neighbor" to include only people of their own nationality and religion.....

...there was no one the Jewish expert in the law would have considered to be less of a "neighbor" than a Samaritan. If a Samaritan man could be a "neighbor" to the Jewish man who was robbed and beaten, then the definition of "neighbor" would have to include all people, regardless of race, religion, nationality or any other artificial distinction.

The Samaritan man gave freely of both his time and his money to help a Jewish man who was not only a stranger, but also was of a different religion, a foreigner and an enemy of his people. In His Parable of the Good Samaritan, Jesus challenges us to "Go and do likewise." We do not have to agree with other people's beliefs and opinions or condone their actions, but Jesus calls us to overcome our prejudices and show our kindness to all people of the world and consider them our "neighbors.".." http://www.twopaths.com/greatest.htm

John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. bible.cc/john/13-35.htm

[Gosh, this is too hard, Lord! But not my will, but thine, be done. (and if you don't help me, I'll never make it!)]

If we can't do that at Christmas, when can we? We're no better than the ones who put us in this position.

[richard will come on here soon and tell us how pagan Christmas is, and that's ok too.]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-12-02   8:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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