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Title: Cop-killer suspect shot dead by officer
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URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34194122/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
Published: Dec 2, 2009
Author: staff
Post Date: 2009-12-02 05:00:46 by noone222
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A lone officer on patrol in the middle of the night Tuesday spotted a car reported stolen, its hood up and engine running, and pulled over to check it out. As the patrolman sat in his cruiser, a burly man with a large mole on his cheek came up from behind. The officer turned, stepped outside and recognized the most wanted man in the Pacific Northwest — the ex-con accused of gunning down four cops at a coffee shop. Moments later, Maurice Clemmons, 37, lay dead in the street, shot by the patrolman after Clemmons made a move for a gun he had taken from one of the slain officers, police said. Clemmons' death brought to an end two days of fear across the Seattle-Tacoma area and one of the biggest manhunts the region has ever seen. Dozens of police officers milled around at the scene afterward, some solemnly shaking hands and patting each other on the back. "Good thing he wasn't able to get the gun out here or we might have had a different ending to this whole thing," Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said. "The officer in Seattle did a good job of making sure he went home safe tonight." Clemmons eluded capture thanks to family and friends who provided him with shelter, cell phones, cash and first aid for the severe belly wound he suffered when one of the dying officers in Sunday's coffee-shop rampage got off a shot, police said. Six to seven of those associates were being arrested Tuesday. Among them, police said, was Darcus D. Allen, a convicted murderer who served in prison with Clemmons in Arkansas and allegedly drove the getaway truck after the coffee shop rampage; two men who later traveled with Clemmons as he eluded police; and Clemmons' sister, who bandaged him up and gave him a lift part way to Seattle. "Some are friends, some are acquaintances, some are partners in crime, some are relatives. Now they're all partners in crime," Troyer said. Troyer said paramedics were stunned that Clemmons lived as long as he did with the bullet wound. It had been packed with gauze and patched with duct tape. Frantic search It was not clear exactly where Clemmons was while on the run. Police rushed from place to place, following tips that often came up empty or yielded only accomplices. They searched homes and apartments around the city and cordoned off a park after a report of blood in a restroom. On Sunday, Clemmons briefly took refuge at a house in the city's well-to-do Leschi neighborhood, slipping away before police surrounded the home in an all-night siege that ended when SWAT officers stormed the place and realized he wasn't there. Clemmons has a violent, erratic past, and authorities in Washington state and Arkansas — where then-Gov. Mike Huckabee in 2000 commuted his 108-year prison sentence for armed robbery and other offenses — are facing tough questions about why an apparently violent and deranged man was out on the street. On Sunday, six days after posting bail in Washington on charges of raping a child, Clemmons walked into the coffee shop in Parkland, Wash., a suburb a few miles south of Tacoma, and killed four uniformed Lakewood police officers as they caught up on paperwork on their laptops, police said. Pierce County Sheriff's Dept. via AP Lakewood Police officers Greg Richards (top left), Mark Renninger (top right), Tina Griswold (bottom right) and Ronald Owens (bottom left) were shot and killed at a coffee shop in Parkland, Wash., on Sunday. "The only motive that we have is he decided he was going to go kill police officers," Troyer said. Investigators also reported that Clemmons told others the night before the shooting that he was going to kill police and they should watch the news, but they wrote it off as "crazy-talk." In a statement posted on the conservative http://Newsmax.com Web site, Huckabee said: "I take full responsibility for my actions of nine years ago. I acted on the facts presented to me in 2000. If I could have possibly known what Clemmons would do nine years later, I obviously would have made a different decision. But if the same file was presented to me today, I would have likely made the same decision." Familiar face The Seattle patrol officer who killed Clemmons, Benjamin L. Kelly, 39, a seven-year law enforcement veteran, will be placed on leave, which is standard procedure after a shooting. The officer was driving in a working-class neighborhood of south Seattle at about 2:45 a.m. when he came across a stolen car, its engine running, Assistant Seattle Police Chief Jim Pugel said. As he sat in his cruiser, beginning paperwork on the car, he sensed movement, turned and saw someone approaching, Pugel said. The officer stepped out and immediately recognized the man, whose face had been all over TV and mugshot fliers memorized by every officer in the region. The patrolman ordered Clemmons to freeze and show his hands, but he kept moving, and the officer fired several rounds, hitting the man at least twice, Pugel said. Police said Clemmons would have died eventually of the gunshot wound he suffered in the coffee-shop rampage. Shooting reopens Huckabee's clemency record At the time of his arrest in Washington state earlier this year, investigators said Clemmons had visions that he was Jesus Christ and that the world was on the verge of the apocalypse. He also "told the officer President Obama and Lebron James are his brothers, Oprah (Winfrey) is his sister and referred to himself as 'the beast,"' according to court papers obtained by The News Tribune of Tacoma. A psychological evaluation in October found he was a risk to public safety, but not enough of one to justify committing him, the newspaper reported. The slain officers Kwere Sgt. Mark Renninger, 39, and Officers Ronald Owens, 37, Tina Griswold, 40, and Greg Richards, 42. A memorial to honor them will be held next Tuesday in the Tacoma Dome. More than 20,000 members of the law enforcement community, emergency response agencies and the public are expected to attend.
Poster Comment: This is another case where the cop becomes Judge, Jury, and Executioner. Maybe everything is on the up and up. It'd be nice to never have a doubt. This guy's record leaves little reason in my mind that he should have been among the civilian population. If true, the information in this article supports placement in a mental facility. It's amazing that this man was given so many chances to do just exactly what he did ... and so many must have known of his mental condition.
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#1. To: noone222 (#0)
The circle seems complete with all
the right actors in their proper places. Jails are full of people like him and
society is better off, not to mention innocent correction guards, now that he
has assumed room temperature. One less mental defective among us.
Accused Cop-Killer Maurice Clemmons Hallucinated About Baby-Eating Cannibals, Why Didn't Psychologists Commit Him? By Caleb Hannan in Crime & PunishmentTuesday, Dec. 1 2009 @ 3:19PM Western State psychologists determined Clemmons was dangerous, but not crazy. The more information that comes out about accused cop-killer Maurice Clemmons, the more it feels as if the Sunday's tragic murder of four Lakewood officers was preventable. Now, added to that mountain of missed opportunities, comes news of the disturbing things Clemmons told a pair of Western State psychologists on October 19th. According to unsealed documents obtained by the Tacoma News-Tribune, Clemmons told the two shrinks that he hallucinated about "people drinking blood and people eating babies, and lawless on the street, like people were cannibals." So how could they claim "insufficient grounds" to commit him? Well, for one, Clemmons' baby-eating quotes aren't fully in context. The shrinks visited him in his Pierce County jail cell as part of a court-ordered evaluation to determine if he was competent enough to stand trial on charges of assault and child rape. But this AP report doesn't mention that Clemmons' self- reported hallucinations occurred at the time of his arrest, five months before the evaluation. A time when he also claimed to be kin with Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama and Lebron James and referred to himself as "the beast." For another, according to Kris Flowers, spokesperson for Western State, the psychologists were there to determine if Clemmons was presently sane. The job of figuring out if he'd gone crazy back in May wouldn't come until two weeks later, when a Pierce County judge ordered a follow-up evaluation to determine if Clemmons had committed the crimes under (technical term alert) "diminished capacity." When a suspect's sanity is questioned it triggers a long, methodical process. The Western State psychologists didn't drop the ball. It's just that in the midst of doing their due diligence and trying to come up with an answer, Clemmons provided one of his own.
One less mental defective among us. Mental defectives exist and society at large shouldn't be exposed to them. The question in my mind is how many of these mental cases have we as a society created ? I recall Charlie Manson stating that "he was a direct result of the system we raised him in". I'm not excusing Manson or the guy in Washington. But here we are in 2009 realizing that government propagandizes, uses mind control techniques, and inmates are made worse during incarceration rather than better. These days I have become so cynical that I really don't believe anything especially if it's proposed by the government. It was a lot easier to just buy the government's bullshit by the bushel basket and forget about it ... until that bullshit the government produces directly affects one personally. When we consider the invented wars, the fake money, false flag events like OKC, WTC, the Wacos, the Ruby Ridges, the taser crazy cops killing people's pets on the side of the public highways, toxic vaccines, the innumerable agencies that trace and track "free" people, the military-police state being set in place ... what value does this government provide ? Is it a prison planet owned and operated by banksters ?
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
The court wants to have it both ways. Here we have an individual that has committed numerous heinous acts and has done time for them. He has been interviewed many times by people trained to evaluate his sanity ... and they know he's dangerously insane, but they send psychiatrists to interview him with the predetermined result being "he's competent" to stand trial. Again, the fix. This time the "fix" cost four cops their lives. This is a very difficult situation. We can't become like the Soviet Union where we simply place dissident's in a psyche ward somewhere without justification that can be trusted. However, it becomes nearly impossible to trust the government when they are caught lieing to the populace on a continual basis, more than they even tell the truth.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
Perhaps we could sprinkle real victims of crimes into state parole boards that are now filled with misguided, ill educated, academics. These victims might be able to convince Harvey and Stew that Jamal is actually a two legged ape, unfit to be among the general populace.
It's apparent that those elected and those others chosen by the elected to administer justice and protect the population are unfit in most instances to do their jobs. A worse job couldn't be done intentionally, could it ?
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
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When given profile tests, cops and criminals have very similar test results.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
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Just like they say about Judges ... I call horseshit ... the good ones would rid the system of the bad ones.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
and coroner: "Police said Clemmons would have died eventually of the gunshot wound he suffered in the coffee-shop rampage." The patrolman ordered Clemmons to freeze and show his hands, but he kept moving, and the officer fired several rounds, hitting the man at least twice, Pugel said..... "The only motive that we have is he decided he was going to go kill police officers," Troyer said. Investigators also reported that Clemmons told others the night before the shooting that he was going to kill police and they should watch the news, but they wrote it off as "crazy-talk.".... At the time of his arrest in Washington state earlier this year, investigators said Clemmons had visions that he was Jesus Christ and that the world was on the verge of the apocalypse. He also "told the officer President Obama and Lebron James are his brothers, Oprah (Winfrey) is his sister and referred to himself as 'the beast,"'..... According to unsealed documents obtained by the Tacoma News-Tribune, Clemmons told the two shrinks that he hallucinated about "people drinking blood and people eating babies, and lawless on the street, like people were cannibals." .... He sounds like a mind-control operation to me. That last one sounds like Jewish ritual murder/and or the type of trauma they put these people through to break down their psyches.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
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Wait til the copycats come out of the closet !!!
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
People that are institutionalized in perpetuity can be fiddled with by every weird shrink that could only find employment at the PRISON level. Who knows what the truth is ... we've seen movies where they go to the prison system in order to get the type of killer they need at the moment.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
The legal system failed the legal system for a change.
Who knows what the truth is ... we've seen movies where they go to the prison system in order to get the type of killer they need at the moment. exactly.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
As most mental facilities can extend sentences indefinitely for behavior problems or lack of participation in their "program", there's no fun in that or money in keeping the streets safer. And just think of all the people that will have their work hours cut if this keeps up. On the plus side: his family won't have to strip naked on Sundays anymore.
I noticed that when the suspects' description was given out, the MSM told his race. That NEVER happens, for example the black murderer of the white woman newscaster (Anne Pressly) in Arkansas and the murderers of the white couple (Newsome and Christian) in Tennessee.
_________________________________________________________________________ When he robbed somebody he got 95 years, but when he raped a child they let him out on bail? I suspect there's more to this story than what the cops are telling news reporters. Why were so many willing to help Clemens? Is this common in the black community when someone kills four people and rapes a child? Or is there more to this story?
I think this very curious factoid deserves more attention and concern. I also find it curious that I haven't heard a peep on the MSM Radio News regarding this event all day today.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
Once again proving that the "throwaway piece" is an officer's best friend in a shooting. (Just joking - although could be.) CLEAN UP ON AISLE 3!
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
If true, the information in this article supports placement in
a mental facility.
#2. To: All (#1)
#3. To: Disgusted (#1)
Jails are full of people like him and society is better off, not to mention innocent correction guards, now that he has assumed room temperature.
#4. To: Disgusted (#2)
The shrinks visited him in his Pierce County jail cell as part of a court-ordered evaluation to determine if he was competent enough to stand trial on charges of assault and child rape.
#5. To: noone222 (#3)
#6. To: Disgusted (#5)
Perhaps we could sprinkle real victims of crimes into state parole boards that are now filled with misguided, ill educated, academics.
#7. To: noone222 (#0)
#8. To: Eric Stratton (#7)
Either way, one more degenerate in his proper place.
#9. To: noone222 (#8)
#10. To: Eric Stratton (#9)
Sure, there are some "good ones
#11. To: noone222 (#0)
This is another case where the cop becomes Judge, Jury, and Executioner.
#12. To: noone222 (#10)
#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)
"The only motive that we have is he decided he was going to go kill police officers,"
#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)
He sounds like a mind-control operation to me. That last one sounds like Jewish ritual murder/and or the type of trauma they put these people through to break down their psyches.
#15. To: noone222 (#0)
(Edited)
A psychological evaluation in October found he was a risk to public safety, but not enough of one to justify committing him, the newspaper reported.
#16. To: noone222 (#14)
People that are institutionalized in perpetuity can be fiddled with by every weird shrink that could only find employment at the PRISON level.
#17. To: noone222 (#0)
This is another case where the cop becomes Judge, Jury, and Executioner. Maybe everything is on the up and up. It'd be nice to never have a doubt. This guy's record leaves little reason in my mind that he should have been among the civilian population. If true, the information in this article supports placement in a mental facility. It's amazing that this man was given so many chances to do just exactly what he did ... and so many must have known of his mental condition.
#18. To: noone222 (#0)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#19. To: noone222 (#0)
"....six days after posting bail in Washington on charges of raping a child...."
#20. To: Big Meanie (#19)
(Edited)
"....six days after posting bail in Washington on charges of raping a child...."
#21. To: noone222 (#0)
This is another case where the cop becomes Judge, Jury, and Executioner.
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