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Title: All the President's Climategate Deniers
Source: townhall.com
URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/Mich ... presidents_climategate_deniers
Published: Dec 2, 2009
Author: Michelle Malkin
Post Date: 2009-12-02 08:08:53 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 353
Comments: 43

All the President's Climategate Deniers
Michelle Malkin
Wednesday, December 02, 2009

"The science is settled," we've been told for decades by zealous proponents of manmade global warming hysteria. Thanks to an earth-shaking hacking scandal across the pond, we now have mountains of documents from the world's leading global warming advocacy center that show the science is about as settled as a southeast Asian tsunami. You won't be surprised by the Obama administration's response to Climategate.

With pursed lips and closed eyes and ears, the White House is clinging to the old eco-mantra: The science is settled.

Never mind all the devastating new information about data manipulation, intimidation and cult-like coverups to "hide the decline" in global temperatures over the last half-century, they say. The science is settled.

Never mind what The Atlantic's Clive Crook, after wading through the climate science e-mail files of the U.K.'s Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, called the overpowering "stink of intellectual corruption" -- combined with mafia-like suppression of dissent, suppression of evidence and methods, and "plain statistical incompetence" exposed by the document trove. The science is settled.

Never mind the expedient disappearance of mounds of raw weather station data that dissenting scientists were seeking through freedom of information requests from the Climatic Research Unit. The science is settled.

In March, President Obama made a grandiose show of putting "science" above "politics" when lifting the ban on government-funded human embryonic stem cell research. "Promoting science isn't just about providing resources -- it's about protecting free and open inquiry," he said during the signing ceremony. "It's about letting scientists like those who are here today do their jobs, free from manipulation or coercion, and listening to what they tell us, even when it's inconvenient -- especially when it's inconvenient. It is about ensuring that scientific data is never distorted or concealed to serve a political agenda -- and that we make scientific decisions based on facts, not ideology."

Yet, the pro-sound science president has surrounded himself with radical Climategate deniers who have spent their entire professional careers "settling" manmade global warming disaster science through fear mongering, intimidation and ridicule of opponents.

-- Science czar John Holdren, who will testify on Capitol Hill this week at a hearing on Climategate, infamously hyped weather catastrophes and demographic disasters in the 1970s with his population control freak pals Paul and Anne Ehrlich. He made a public bet against free-market economist Julian Simon, predicting dire shortages of five natural resources as a result of feared overconsumption. He lost on all counts. No matter.

Holdren's failure didn't stop him from writing forcefully about mass sterilization and forced abortion "solutions" to a fizzling, sizzling, overpopulated planet. And it didn't stop him from earning a living making more dire predictions.

In 1986, Ehrlich credited Holdren with forecasting that "carbon-dioxide climate-induced famines could kill as many as a billion people before the year 2020." He went on to Harvard and the White House. On the "Late Show with David Letterman" earlier this year, Holdren fretted that his son "might not see snow!"

Canada Free Press (CFP) columnist and Canadian climatologist Dr. Tim Ball notes that Holdren turned up in the Climategate files belittling the work of astrophysicists Sallie Baliunas and Willie Soon at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in the Solar, Stellar and Planetary Sciences Division. Holdren put "Harvard" in sneer quotes when mocking a research paper Baliunas and Soon published in 2003 showing that "the 20th century is probably not the warmest nor a uniquely extreme climatic period of the last millennium." First, deny. Next, deride.

-- Energy Secretary Steven Chu picked derision as his weapon earlier this year when peddling the Obama administration's greenhouse-gas emission policy. "The American public … just like your teenage kids, aren't acting in a way that they should act," The Wall Street Journal quoted Chu. He dismissed dissent by asserting that "there's very little debate" about the impact of "green energy" policy on the economy.

There's "very little debate," of course, because dissenters get crushed.

-- The Obama team's chief eco-dissent crusher is climate czar Carol Browner. She oversaw the destruction of Environmental Protection Agency computer files in brazen violation of a federal judge's order during the Clinton years requiring the agency to preserve its records.

Over the past year, the EPA has stifled the dissent of Alan Carlin, a senior research analyst at the agency who questioned the administration's reliance on outdated research on the health effects of greenhouse gases. Recently, they sought to yank a YouTube video created by EPA lawyers Allan Zabel and Laurie Williams that is critical of cap-and-trade. Browner reportedly threatened auto execs in July by telling them to "put nothing in writing … ever" about their negotiations with her.

And she is now leading the "science is settled" stonewalling in the wake of Climategate. "I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists," she said. "These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real." Book-cookers are good at making it seem so.

In any case, last year, more than 31,000 scientists -- including 9,021 Ph.D.s -- signed a petition sponsored by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine rejecting claims of human-caused global warming.

But hey, who's counting? The science is settled.

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#1. To: All (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   8:14:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

Long before McCain picked her, I read about her when she had her Downs kid and thought she had good morals and common sense. Now I see she hangs out with scumbag ponzi lawyers and she has utterly no clue what "climate change" is. Even if you believe the warmers, the benefits for Alaska would be enormous.

Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle

purpleman  posted on  2009-12-02   8:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

Oh boy, you're talkin' bad about the future MILF-In-Chief. Won't be long until I have to hit the 'Ignore Thread' button.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-12-02   8:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Malkin once stated that dissidents should be put in camps. I don't care much for her even though some of her more recent articles have been accurate. She still plays the republicrat vs dumocrat bullshit.

Medved also writes for Townhall ... he's red through and through !

Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.

noone222  posted on  2009-12-02   8:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   8:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#4)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   8:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#6)

Far to pop-political for me. Besides, she's at least half-neocon.

Great description. Yes I totally agree.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-02   9:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eric Stratton (#6)

I don't like Malkin at all. Far to pop-political for me. Besides, she's at least half-neocon

The main neocon premise is that certain individuals have the right to dominate other individuals by force.

This warped mentality extends from humanity to the rest of nature and to the ecosystem we all live in.

Therefore, Malkin has already staked out a false position and anything she writes must be seen as being motivated by her pre-existing bias.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-02   9:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

I don't even like Malkin but this bit of writing is quite devastating to the Dims. And it is succinct.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-12-02   9:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

But what does Sarah think in her "rogue-ness?" After all, that's the most important thing in the world right now for GOP/War-Party neocons.

I think the issue is being settled by events surrounding the global hotting data meltdown.

Another big factor is that Canada, a signatory to the Kyoto Acoords, has blatantly violated them and rendered them completely meaningless. So confidence in Copenhagen about passing a treaty let alone getting signatories to actually comply with it is dubious. Especially in an sour economy.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-12-02   9:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: AGAviator (#8)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#9)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   9:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#9)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   9:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#12)

How does it rub with Palin's statements and political actions in your world?

My world doesn't revolve around Palin. People are so obsessed with her.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-12-02   10:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eric Stratton (#13)

I don't think I've ever been accused of being a neocon before. No doubt, you enjoyed hurling that around.

Other than that, your post made absolutely no sense to me.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-12-02   10:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

They are equally hell bent on Government "fixing" things in spite of the notion that Government to date only breaks, damages, degrades, oppresses, and ends up becoming tyrannical after it grows to a certain point relative to the population that it oversees or "governs."

Most corporations are as bad if not worse than governments.

Something is needed to regulate corporations very strictly. Governments at least must give lip service to providing for the needs of the population.

Corporations do not even pretend to have any responsibility to care for their own work force, let alone the larger society they are a part of.

Last but not least, governments create corporations by allowing people to create ficticious legal persons who cannot be put in jail or sued personally for their wrongful actions.

So as long as we have corporations, we are going to need governments as big or bigger than the businesses.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-02   10:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

Good vid.

If a nation expects to be diverse and free, it expects what never was and never will be.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-12-02   10:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AGAviator (#8)

The main neocon premise is that certain individuals have the right to dominate other individuals by force.

That is a communist premise and the motto of those in D.C. making bills right now.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-12-02   10:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

I didn't see Palin's name mentioned once in the article. What does she have to do with it?

What are your thoughts on the content of the article?

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-12-02   10:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   11:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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#23. To: SonOfLiberty (#19)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-02   11:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Eric Stratton (#6)

Don't get me wrong, I don't like Malkin at all. Far to pop-political for me. Besides, she's at least half-neocon.

However, that doesn't mean that there's no merit in everything that she writes.

Not only that but it PLAIN doesn't hurt to know what these types are thinking. She has lots of fans.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-02   11:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Eric Stratton (#23) (Edited)

This is the first time you've attacked me. Eric, you can do better. You've even responded to my posts with positive comments when I've criticized Palin. Happened just this week even. I've even stated exactly what you have about her, and you recognized that, so your last post to me seems to be made by somebody other than yourself (seems, not is).

My question was valid; where was Palin mentioned by Malkin in this article? If she wasn't (and she wasn't) then what are your thoughts on the content of the article.

People who obsessively fawn over Palin are commiting an error for certain, but so are those who see her hiding behind every curtain and lurking under every rock.

What are your thoughts on the content of this article?

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-12-02   11:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: PaulCJ (#18)

The main neocon premise is that certain individuals have the right to dominate other individuals by force.

That is a communist premise and the motto of those in D.C. making bills right now.

Neocons are ex-communists.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-02   23:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: AGAviator (#26)

Neocons are ex-communists.

Jee, I thought they were ex-conservatives.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-12-02   23:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: PaulCJ (#27)

Jee, I thought they were ex-conservatives.

The original neocons were Trotskyites. Irving Kristol. Bill's father is considered the first.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-03   0:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SonOfLiberty (#25)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-03   0:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SonOfLiberty (#25)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-03   6:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Eric Stratton (#30)

PS SOL, if you got the sense that I "attacked" you, then I apologize. As I reread my post, I suppose it could have come across personally, but be assured, it was not meant to be an "attack" in any way, shape or form.

Ok, thanks.

I was however being direct, as I often am, and let's face it, you have been a Palin supporter, at least in large measure, so again,

That is patently false. I think you're mistaking "being a supporter" with "not rabidly attacking her at all opportunities". If you don't recall I just recently did an assessment, that you answered, of what she says and does, and she came up quite short. At one time I thought she had some potential but, again if you recall from LP, when she quit her job I was quite vocal that she was a quitter and loser and have not retracted that evaluation. Additionally I've always prefaced my posts about her with "I'm not a particular fan of hers", however, I do try to be balanced when look at her.

Not constantly attacking her does not indicate support. Noting that she has good points (a few) and many bad points is being balanced, not supportive. And while I think she's attractive physically that has nothing to do with support, I also think Cameron Diaz is hot but she's as looney as they come politically, so thinking Cameron Diaz is hot is not an endorsement of her radical leftist politics.

if I misconstrued your original comment as at least partially a defense of her, there is obviously a basis for that assumption, and frankly, one that we've haggled over before.

I seriously think you're confusing me with somebody else.

On the other hand, I posted to links with obvious connections and direct relevance to the piece that you must've overlooked, which of course prompted my comments.

My first post to you was directed towards your first post on the thread. It made no sense when I read it. It kind of reminded me of some threads here where the topic will be, oh I don't know, Jello Pudding or something, and somebody will make an initial post like "it's all the Jews fault!". IOW, it didn't computer with the content of the original article.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-12-03   9:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Eric Stratton (#29)

As to the piece, I'm not quite sure what Malkin's point is to be perfectly honest. Otherwise, it sounds like yet one more rant among millions that get upset that Hussein is being Hussein, a dishonest totalitarian communist etc., etc., etc.

I learned nothing new that is practical from reading it. IMO neocons need to come to grips with the fact that people of liberals' ilk and the Husseins of the world are never going to change their stripes.

The piece was about Climategate/AGW. Malkin is normally pretty offensive but this piece was a home run for her, which is rare.

And not as if Palin supporters obsess irrationally over a neocon or anything, eh.

I don't know, you'll have to ask a Palin supporter.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-12-03   9:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Esso, Lod (#3)

Won't be long until I have to hit the 'Ignore Thread' button.

You and Lod I tell you. Although I did do it once, I would feel like I was missing something if I hit ignore thread all the time.


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farmfriend  posted on  2009-12-03   9:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mininggold (#28)

The original neocons were Trotskyites.

That is just historical revisionism.

The term, 'neocon', was original coined close to a decade ago by the anti-U.S. press that, at the time, had nothing left smear the conservatives with.

Most of those in Congress in D.C. are communists/socialists/fascists (depending on which flavor of tyranny they like), that would be 90% of the democrats in congress and 60% of the republicans.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-12-03   10:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: PaulCJ (#34) (Edited)

That is just historical revisionism.

The term, 'neocon', was original coined close to a decade ago by the anti-U.S. press that, at the time, had nothing left smear the conservatives with.

Most of those in Congress in D.C. are communists/socialists/fascists (depending on which flavor of tyranny they like), that would be 90% of the democrats in congress and 60% of the republicans.

I expected a post like this from you. Look it up yourself, since it's from the mouths of babes. The movement started after WWII when they saw the success of the taming of Japan and Germany essentially by the US and decided it should apply to areas around the whole world, not just overt US enemies. Which is happening as we speak.

Keep working to pay your taxes and maybe you also should enlist. The military will teach you how to face your fears. Hopefully Goldi has erased all your tranvestite/sex change wannabe posts from her site though, those could be embarrassing. lolol

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-03   12:05:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold (#35)

Look it up yourself, since it's from the mouths of babes.

I am not going to do your homework for you.

And you change the subject when I point out to you how you are wrong, and how many communists/socialists/fascists there are in Congress.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-12-03   12:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: PaulCJ (#36)

I am not going to do your homework for you.

And you change the subject when I point out to you how you are wrong, and how many communists/socialists/fascists there are in Congress.

LOL. You are really being silly since you were the one who brought it up. As if I care enough about what you think to do a simple search for you on the "origins of neocon".......it would only scare you!!!! BOOOO!

I didn't change the subject I just want you to put your money where your mouth is for once. Quit asking some other poor a@sh@le's son to do your fighting for you. Poor old PaulCJ.... does the "C" stand for clueless?

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-03   12:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mininggold (#37)

As if I care enough about what you think to do a simple search for you on the "origins of neocon".......it would only scare you!!!! BOOOO!

You cared enough to reply twice. I am pointing out how you are wrong.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-12-03   12:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: PaulCJ (#38)

You cared enough to reply twice. I am pointing out how you are wrong

You did no such thing. You gave an opinion with nothing to back it up because you are too lazy to look it up.... just like you are too lazy to fight your own fights. Same childish, immature attitude.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-03   12:55:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: PaulCJ, mininggold (#34)

That is just historical revisionism.

The term, 'neocon', was original coined close to a decade ago by the anti-U.S. press that, at the time, had nothing left smear the conservatives with.

A quick Google search does not bear this out. From what I have been able to find out, the term neoconservatism was first coined by Michael Harrington, an American democratic socialist, writer, political activist, professor of political science, radio commentator and founder of the Democratic Socialists of America. He used the word neoconservative as a criticism against proponents of American modern liberalism who had "moved to the right" in a 1973 Dissent magazine article concerning welfare policy.

In 1979, Irving Krystol, father of neoconservative William Krystol, embraced the term in a 1979 article "Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed 'Neoconservative." It is beyond argument that Irving Krystol was an unabashed Trostkyite. He was proud of it until the day he died.

In 1982, Norman Podhoretz began calling himself a neoconservative and even wrote an article entitled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy"

That's just a few of the things I found in doing a quick Google search. If you could provide a link that either refutes the above or proves that "The term, 'neocon', was original coined close to a decade ago by the anti-U.S. press that, at the time, had nothing left smear the conservatives with," I would appreciate it. I am always looking to further my education on maters such as these.

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F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-03   13:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#40)

But he was to lazy to post this. And instead he resorted to name calling.

Michael Harrington was an american press (writer, political activist, radio commentator), so I was right on that. I was wrong on the decade.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-12-03   16:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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