Title: Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View) Source:
FaithFreedomOrg URL Source:http://faithfreedom.org/islam/does-islam-breed-violence Published:Nov 14, 2009 Author:Amil Amani Post Date:2009-12-03 22:32:29 by Liberator Keywords:Islam, Bloody, Muslim, Cult Views:58814 Comments:650
There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us that the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do.
On the other hand are those who have been fed up with the numberless daily horrific acts that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam throughout the world. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed, on a daily basis, by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith.
Would someone, please, explain what motivated Nidal Hasan who had been, at tax payer’s expense, educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against a nation that gave him everything he had?
If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, why:
* had he repeatedly preached the ascendancy of Islam to the U.S. Constitution?
* had he publicly supported Islamic suicide bombing?
* had he proclaimed his highest loyalty to Islam?
* had he been in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam?
* did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack?
* did he keep screaming “Allah-o-Akbar” as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women?
Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be. Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslim’s holy book, the Quran, in many suras:
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."
Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."
Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."
And the Quran is considered by Muslims as the word-for-word literal edicts of the Muslims’ god, Allah.
Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophet’s son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. Ali with the assistance of one or two of his thugs, beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, had a sword that had its own name—Zolfaghar. Ali’s portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shi’a’-lands. And this man, Ali, is revered by the Shi’a at the same level as Muhammad.
On the Sunni side, Muhammad’s co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. And to this day, a sword adorns the flag of the birthplace of the religion of peace, Saudi Arabia.
And Islam, by the nature of its very doctrine, appeals to man’s base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more:
Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."
In reality, Islam is like a deadly contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, this debilitating disease is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do.
Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult of violence.
The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as the normal part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time-to-time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit and quickly gets over it and does nothing to seriously address this affliction of humanity.
The recent dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be forgotten by the public before very long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by agents of death, Islamists. Only the families who lost their loved-ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries, in the main, won’t be able to put the episode behind them.
The mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity, ironically, in a man who was trained to help people with sanity was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam.
Islam is a mental retrovirus that has mutated into numerous varieties and degrees of severity, over the past 1400 years. Everyone born in a Muslim family, as well as those who convert to Islam, contract a particular mutation of the Islamic Virus. As is the case with all retroviruses, the Islamic Virus burrows deeply in the person and erupts, from time-to-time with potentially devastating consequences.
The Islamic Virus first divests the person of his most fundamental human attribute. It takes away his right to make decisions himself and absolves him, in return, of any responsibility for his actions rendered in blind obedience to it.
A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of Islam—Submission—everything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran .The Raison d'être for the Muslim is to be an unconditional submissive to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a “good” Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, he is indoctrinated to believe.
Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one another’s throat regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects’ dogma should rule.
For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth, fighting the non-Muslims and infighting.
Truth be told: Violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence.
Author's Bio:
Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution.
There's religious nuts in every religion. Muslims got it bad right now because of 911 and other terrorist attacks that were attributed to people of the Muslim faith. The Government isn't always honest - sometimes they tell us what they think we want to hear or what will place the blame on others.
The quotes I posted came from Living Religions by Mary Pat Fisher.
I'm not against anyone of any faith - I'm against those who wish to do evil against others regardless of their professed faith. Those radical Muslims are not obeying the words of the Qur'an which were given directly from God to Muhammad.
Ah- ok.. and yes I am, I am pro democracy, and I feel that it is right to support Israel because of where they are located- for strategic effect.. and I also make it a habit to not be anti- anything.. Other than anti-liberal. :)
So.. ok. Well thank you for your time and for being honest. Enjoy your forum and thanks for letting me post here a little bit.
This isn't wbales forum and there's no need to be snippy! :)
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.
Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
If Israel and America went to war, whose side would you be on, betsy ross?
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
Enjoy your forum and thanks for letting me post here a little bit.
It is entirely my pleasure to have allowed you that honor.
Hush, Dak.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.
Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.
By the number of posts in rabid defense of Islam, take a closer look and tell me what you see. Blame THEM for using the forum for their own agenda.
Aren't you the one who slithered over here for the sole purpose of stirring up the shit regarding the issue of Islam?
Didn't you send out four posts baiting 4um members to your thread for the sole purpose of insulting, slinging crap and pushing your own personal irrational agenda regarding Islam?
Yes, that is what you did and what you are doing. Don't pull this blame THEM crap for your own actions.
Commonly mistranslated as “holy war,” it means “striving.” The Greater Jihad, Muhammad is reported to have said, is the struggle against the lower self. It is the internal fight between wrong and right, error and truth, selfishness and selflessness, hardness of heart and all-embracing love. This inner struggle to maintain peaceful equilibrium is then reflected in outer attempts to keep society in a state of harmonious order, as the earthly manifestation of Divine Justice.
On the external level, the Lesser Jihad is exerting effort to protect the Way of God against the forces of evil. This jihad is the safeguarding of one’s life, faith, livelihood, honor, and the integrity of the Muslim community. The Prophet Muhammad reportedly said that “the preferred jihad is a truth spoken in the presence of a tyrant.”32
Jihad is not to be undertaken for personal gain. The Qur’anic revelations that apparently date from the Medina period when the faithful were being attacked by Meccans make it clear that
To those against whom (They are) those who have War is made, permission Been expelled from their homes Is given (to fight), because In defiance of right, They are wronged;—and verily, (For no cause) except God is Most Powerful That they say, “Our Lord For their aid; Is God.”33
The Qur’an gives permission to fight back under such circumstances, but also gives detailed limitations on the conduct of war and the treatment of captives, to prevent atrocities.
Yeah, he tried--but as we say down in the south here, he got a good ole fashioned cyber ass whoopin.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
I suspect however that any large group of unemployed young men sitting idle in the desert most of their lives, under the reign of despots and tyrants, who cannot find a good purpose in life due to denied opportunity, will turn to the best port in the storm so to speak. In this case, it's Islam.
Actually the most notorious jihadists, including the key leaders of the 911 hijackings, were upper middle class and well-educated.
I am pro democracy, and I feel that it is right to support Israel because of where they are located- for strategic effect.
How's that democracy thingie working for you what with government at the state and federal levels ignoring the people's wishes at every turn?
Israel has no oil. Israel has no ME neighboring friends, who have oil. Zionists despise Christians who comprise 75% of America. Wouldn't it be more in America's interests - if we had to pick a ME ally - to pick a country that had oil and one that did not despise Christians?
I am not sure how to make sense of it- but it is ture that Muslims have commited many acts of violence.
Muslims are just a little bit noisier about any violence they commit than Westerners.
If you look at the deaths though wars and political upheavals over the last 150 years, the West is so far ahead of anything done by all the Muslim world put together it's not even close.
Furthermore, one reason Islam is demographically threatening the West including Europe is precisely because so many Westerners have killed themselves off through war and political turmoil, with another hundreds of millions killed off by abortion.
Last but not least, terrorism is properly classified as murder. I posted the top 100 countries in the world with high murder rates on elPee and there were not even any Muslim countries in the top 25. So in the grand scheme of things all the terrorist actions everywhere every day are not even come close to the other crimes of violence that happen everywhere every day on the planet.
I posted the top 100 countries in the world with high murder rates on elPee and there were not even any Muslim countries in the top 25. i'd like to see that. where was the USA? do you remember?
Actually, there is one, Kyzyrgistan, which ranks 13.
I posted the top 100 countries in the world with high murder rates on elPee and there were not even any Muslim countries in the top 25. i'd like to see that. where was the USA? do you remember?
Honduras #1. i would have never guessed that. a lot of African and South American countries in the top 25.
I believe South Africa and possibly Brazil are now surpassing Honduras.
Also note all the ex-communist countries in the top 25: Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Kazakhstan, Krygistan, Yugoslavia.....
"By your sword you shall live, and your brother you shall serve. But when you become restive, you will cast his yoke from off your neck." Genesis 27:40
Jihad Commonly mistranslated as “holy war,” it means “striving.” The Greater Jihad, Muhammad is reported to have said, is the struggle against the lower self. It is the internal fight between wrong and right, error and truth, selfishness and selflessness, hardness of heart and all-embracing love. This inner struggle to maintain peaceful equilibrium is then reflected in outer attempts to keep society in a state of harmonious order, as the earthly manifestation of Divine Justice.
Jihad Commonly mistranslated as “holy war,” it means “striving.” The Greater Jihad, Muhammad is reported to have said, is the struggle against the lower self. It is the internal fight between wrong and right, error and truth, selfishness and selflessness, hardness of heart and all-embracing love
I'm not going to go to the other extreme and claim that Islam is solely and exclusively about some metaphysical concepts and never any martial activities.
Muslims are clearly enjoined by the Koran to fight under certain conditions, and one passage even says that they may not like to fight, but they also might not like things that are [spiritually, I presume] good for them.
The points I make are
(1) The West has historically been every bit as violent as Islam, and even more so after the Industrial Revolution, (2) There is little in the Koran that is not a "me, too" repetition of various pronouncements in the Old Testament, (3) For its time the jizya or tax on non-Muslims - while allowing them to practice their own religions relatively peacefully - was far superior to the tortures and capital punishments for heresy and apostasy that were regularly infliced by countries of the West, and (4) Jews and Jew supporters are the last people who should be lecturing Westerners about being dhimmis or Muslim subjects because the Jews were quite content to be Muslim subjects for more than 1,300 years.
"By your sword you shall live, and your brother you shall serve. But when you become restive, you will cast his yoke from off your neck." Genesis 27:40
Don't know anything about Zionists. It's not one of the topics in my current class. I'll do some research - but not through Google. I prefer the university Library.
If our self-appointed expert knew anything about Islam, he would know what the term means. Obviously, for whatever reason, our resident brainiac who knows everything about everything is withholding information for whatever reason.
COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!
You mud slingers are attempting to conflate the behavior of a very small group of individuals out of 1.4 billion people into some sort of indictment of Islam
Current estimates are that about 10-25% of all Muslims are of the Wahabbi school which DOES teach violence and terrorism and DOES claim that is part of Islam.
Care to guess which MUSLIM nation funds Wahabbi schools and Mosques?
It isn't just Sunni and Shia. There are multiple schools in Islam. Most of what you are quoting is Sunni Islam. There is more to it than you are letting on.
COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!