Title: Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View) Source:
FaithFreedomOrg URL Source:http://faithfreedom.org/islam/does-islam-breed-violence Published:Nov 14, 2009 Author:Amil Amani Post Date:2009-12-03 22:32:29 by Liberator Keywords:Islam, Bloody, Muslim, Cult Views:58734 Comments:650
There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us that the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do.
On the other hand are those who have been fed up with the numberless daily horrific acts that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam throughout the world. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed, on a daily basis, by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith.
Would someone, please, explain what motivated Nidal Hasan who had been, at tax payers expense, educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against a nation that gave him everything he had?
If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, why:
* had he repeatedly preached the ascendancy of Islam to the U.S. Constitution?
* had he publicly supported Islamic suicide bombing?
* had he proclaimed his highest loyalty to Islam?
* had he been in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam?
* did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack?
* did he keep screaming Allah-o-Akbar as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women?
Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be. Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslims holy book, the Quran, in many suras:
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."
Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."
Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."
And the Quran is considered by Muslims as the word-for-word literal edicts of the Muslims god, Allah.
Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophets son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. Ali with the assistance of one or two of his thugs, beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, had a sword that had its own nameZolfaghar. Alis portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shia-lands. And this man, Ali, is revered by the Shia at the same level as Muhammad.
On the Sunni side, Muhammads co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. And to this day, a sword adorns the flag of the birthplace of the religion of peace, Saudi Arabia.
And Islam, by the nature of its very doctrine, appeals to mans base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more:
Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."
In reality, Islam is like a deadly contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, this debilitating disease is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do.
Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult of violence.
The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as the normal part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time-to-time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit and quickly gets over it and does nothing to seriously address this affliction of humanity.
The recent dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be forgotten by the public before very long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by agents of death, Islamists. Only the families who lost their loved-ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries, in the main, wont be able to put the episode behind them.
The mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity, ironically, in a man who was trained to help people with sanity was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam.
Islam is a mental retrovirus that has mutated into numerous varieties and degrees of severity, over the past 1400 years. Everyone born in a Muslim family, as well as those who convert to Islam, contract a particular mutation of the Islamic Virus. As is the case with all retroviruses, the Islamic Virus burrows deeply in the person and erupts, from time-to-time with potentially devastating consequences.
The Islamic Virus first divests the person of his most fundamental human attribute. It takes away his right to make decisions himself and absolves him, in return, of any responsibility for his actions rendered in blind obedience to it.
A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of IslamSubmissioneverything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran .The Raison d'être for the Muslim is to be an unconditional submissive to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a good Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, he is indoctrinated to believe.
Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one anothers throat regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects dogma should rule.
For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth, fighting the non-Muslims and infighting.
Truth be told: Violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence.
Author's Bio:
Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution.
#106. To: Liberator, mirage, AGAviator, christine, Prefrontal Vortex (#0)
I'm cruising along, reading this tripe, when I saw this:
On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone.
Liberator and mirage: are you down with this One World Paradise that the author speaks of? Both of you are using diversity propaganda as a method of countering Muslim immigration and, to be honest, it makes you come off as even bigger jerks than you already are.
I do my own research and come to my own conclusions.
With all the apologetics for Islam being thrown about, I still can't find an answer for why these "misunderstanders" of the Religion of Peace all seem to "misunderstand" Islam in exactly the same way.
Try as I might, I cannot find an answer to that. Either it is a Religion of Peace and all Muslims are happy little folks frolicking their way through life or there is something about it that creates nutcases who scream "Allah Ackbar" while shooting up military bases in Texas or passing out candy while cheering the World Trade Center coming down.
Most of the conflicts on the planet involve Muslims in one form or another. This is not a disputable statement.
Muslims commit "honor killings" on a seemingly regular basis and in a number of countries, apostacizing from the official religion carries the death penalty.
In Australia, the Lebanese immigrants have been on a tear. Cronulla Beach riots and rapings oh my. For some reason, it wasn't Lebanese Christians out telling women they can't wear bikinis. If you can work that one out so it wasn't Lebanese Muslims (which it was) then let me know.
As for specfically WHY it happens to be that Muslims, and in particlar, Arabized Muslims do this stuff, I haven't got an answer as of yet. Bad culture perhaps? Not being slapped silly as a kid by mommy? Being forced to memorize the Koran by age 5 and not having any other books around? I honestly don't know ... yet.
#144. To: mirage, bluegrass, Original_intent, christine (#116)(Edited)
With all the apologetics for Islam being thrown about, I still can't find an answer for why these "misunderstanders" of the Religion of Peace all seem to "misunderstand" Islam in exactly the same way.
Very little of what you have been discussing has to do with Islam.
You mud slingers are attempting to conflate the behavior of a very small group of individuals out of 1.4 billion people into some sort of indictment of Islam, which is basically an Abrahamic religion having little differences between itself and what the Jews have in their Old Testament regarding what to do about adultery, war, unnatural sex acts, witchcraft, etc..
The Koran does not advocate honor killings, female genital mutilation, or suicide. It did advocate having non-Muslim people pay a tax at a time when so- called Christians were burning non-Christians at the stake and putting them on the rack among other niceties.
I repeat. Jews found it to their advantage to live under Islam for 1,300 years, and a Jew or a Jew supporter should be the last to lecture any white person about being a dhimmi, or how there is anything wrong with Islam or its teachings.
The Koran does not advocate honor killings, female genital mutilation, or suicide.
More lies. No, make that more f***ing lies.
Hey - good thing those 72 virgins await suicide bombers who you pretend don't exist, eh?
I repeat. Jews found it to their advantage to live under Islam for 1,300 years, and a Jew or a Jew supporter should be the last to lecture any white person about being a dhimmi, or how there is anything wrong with Islam or its teachings.
Yeah - the Jews must have LOVED dhimmihood - who wouldn't? They loved it about as much as Americans would love it (you being an exception.)
The Koran does not advocate honor killings, female genital mutilation, or suicide.
More lies. No, make that more f***ing lies.
Show me the passages, FibberBator.
Hey - good thing those 72 virgins await suicide bombers who you pretend don't exist, eh?
There's nothing about 72 virgins for suicide bombers either, lying SOS.
You're on a roll.
I repeat. Jews found it to their advantage to live under Islam for 1,300 years, and a Jew or a Jew supporter should be the last to lecture any white person about being a dhimmi
Yeah - the Jews must have LOVED dhimmihood - who wouldn't?
Jews didn't do anything about it for 1,300 years. That's not the behavior of a people who dislike a system. You may have stumbled across what Americans did when they decided they didn't want the King of England taxing them....
I do agree that not all Muslims are violent- BUT there are so many of them who commit violence in the name of their religion.
That is a historic fact. They have not just committed violence against Americans- their violence has been going on since the beginning of time, just about.
I am actually interested in WHY that is so. I have a very nice lady friend who is very loving, kind, generous and friendly and would not to hurt anyone- and she is Muslim.
I am not sure how to make sense of it- but it is ture that Muslims have commited many acts of violence.
I am not sure how to make sense of it- but it is ture that Muslims have commited many acts of violence.
Muslims are just a little bit noisier about any violence they commit than Westerners.
If you look at the deaths though wars and political upheavals over the last 150 years, the West is so far ahead of anything done by all the Muslim world put together it's not even close.
Furthermore, one reason Islam is demographically threatening the West including Europe is precisely because so many Westerners have killed themselves off through war and political turmoil, with another hundreds of millions killed off by abortion.
Last but not least, terrorism is properly classified as murder. I posted the top 100 countries in the world with high murder rates on elPee and there were not even any Muslim countries in the top 25. So in the grand scheme of things all the terrorist actions everywhere every day are not even come close to the other crimes of violence that happen everywhere every day on the planet.
I posted the top 100 countries in the world with high murder rates on elPee and there were not even any Muslim countries in the top 25. i'd like to see that. where was the USA? do you remember?
Actually, there is one, Kyzyrgistan, which ranks 13.
Think MAYBE the fact that things like "Honor Killings" are not considered to be murder may have something to do with that?
No.
I'm not surprised by your answer and spin. Your whole life revolves around making excuses for and covering for Islam. You will tell any lie you have to tell and stretch any fact you have to stretch in order to do this.
I'm not surprised by your answer and spin. Your whole life revolves around making excuses for and covering for Islam. You will tell any lie you have to tell and stretch any fact you have to stretch in order to do this.
Per my link the United Nations estimates there only 5,000 honor killings worldwide every year by all people everywhere Muslims or not.
That is not a drop in the bucket compared to the murders.
So after being soundly rebutted on the facts, you turn to name calling, like the dumb$hit you are.
The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) estimates that the annual worldwide total of honor-killing victims may be as high as 5,000.[1]
Do you know the meaning of ***estimate*** dum bass?
Yes,goat humper. It means "This is a wild-eyed guess,and we pulled the numbers out of our asses after giving it careful political considerations".
In this case it even means "these figures came from western,civilized countries,because the goat-humpers in Islamic countries don't think they are crimes and don't report them.
Here is a riddle for you,batman. "If a Muslim woman is murdered in the street in a Muslim country and it isn't reported to the UN,did she really die or not?"
That is your opinion and welcome to it. We all have that.
However DONT bring the endless obscene name calling here. All of us have seen quite enough of that in our lives.
If you look on any discussion board you choose, it is impossible for an Israel apologist and/or WOT supporter to remain civil and factual for any length of time.
Their glorified versions of history such as the Crusades and the Middle Ages are demonstrably false, their claims of Jewish persecution over the ages wither once actions of Jews over the ages to make themselves intensely disliked are recounted, and there is no justification in today's day and age for one country to be set up for the benefit of one religion, even to the point of forcibly evicting people who were there first and members of another religion.
So all they have left is hyperbole "Terrist lover! Muslim! Hitlerite!" and name calling. Without that they have nothing.
If you look on any discussion board you choose, it is impossible for an Israel apologist and/or WOT supporter to remain civil and factual for any length of time.
Yeah,Abdul,and the fact that you think I am either,never mind both,only proves you are a fool and a propagandist.
If you look on any discussion board you choose, it is impossible for an Israel apologist and/or WOT supporter to remain civil and factual for any length of time.
Yeah,Abdul,and the fact that you think I am either,never mind both,only proves you are a fool and a propagandist.
A popular writer for ynet news demonstrated great courage [ and humility, imo] for a column he wrote about 3 years ago. And yes, he was castigated for his honesty.
#467. To: scrapper2, sneakypete, AGAviator, all (#462)(Edited)
If you look on any discussion board you choose, it is impossible for an Israel apologist and/or WOT supporter to remain civil and factual for any length of time.
Yeah,Abdul,and the fact that you think I am either,never mind both,only proves you are a fool and a propagandist.
A popular writer for ynet news demonstrated great courage [ and humility, imo] for a column he wrote about 3 years ago. And yes, he was castigated for his honesty.
And that is the sanitized version. What he left out was the pogrom launched against Orthodox Christianity. Thousands of Orthodox Priests were murdered, many tortured to death, and their churches desecrated. Synagogues and Rabbis were left largely untouched.
The biggest problem with this for the Zionazis is that much of the mayhem was perpetrated by ethnically Jewish Psychopathic murderers. This presents a problem for them on several levels.
1. It removes the Nazi Mass Murders from first place as the largest Mass Murder of the 20th Century.
2. Jews were intimately involved in the massive murder rampage in Russia. This is easily contrasted with the inflated mass murder of Jews by Hitler. The Holy Six Million is still used (in the Zionist controlled press and by Israeli/Zionist PR Flacks and Politicians) despite the fact that the 6 million number has been reduced by 3 million by mainstream historians at Auschwitz alone. The memorial Plaque at Auschwitz which used to 4 million were murdered there now says "about" 1 million were). However, in Zionist arithmetic 6 million minus 3 million = 6 million. As well it has been admitted that the supposed "Gas Chambers" were built by the Soviets following WWII. This is not to excuse the Nazis, I don't - the Third Reich was a Psychopathic Criminal Regime, but to underscore the reality that this horrible crime has been inflated and used strictly for Propaganda purposes.
3. It directly undercuts the justification used to justify the formation of "pooooooor little Israel®" as some of its founding leadership came out of the Stalinist Camp in Russia (e.g., David Ben Gurion). The Kibbutz are based directly on Soviet Farm Collectives. And this is before you discuss just how the Arabs were driven from their own land by terrorist groups such as Irgun, Hagannah, and The Stern Gang. The problem for the Zionazis is that the Jewish intimate involvement in the Bolshevik Great Terror and Murder Machine is that it is directly contrary to the Propaganda cry of persecution. Here they were at the highest levels of power and behaved no differently than the Nazis they excoriate and use to justify their current criminality in Israel.
And all of that is before you include the collaboration of German Zionists with the Nazi Death Machine. Which is well documented by Lenni Brenner in his book "51 Documents". Which is built around the 51 documents he researched out of the archives of the Third Reich demonstrating clearly and unequivocally proving the collaboration. Of course there is as well the 150,000 Jews who served in the German Werhmact.
This is why the ADL and other Jewish groups are so adamant and insistent about passing "Hate Speech" Laws as they want to make it illegal hate speech to bring up any of this historically accurate and well documented information (as well as preventing mention of the War Crimes ongoing in Israel). This is why the apologists for Israel and Zionism have such explosive reactions to being confronted with this information. For the duped it shakes the stable foundation around which they have oriented their view of the world. Their entire edifice is founded upon and supported by lies and they cannot, and are completely unwilling to examine it as it is too horrble for them to confront. As a former apologist, and a good strong one, for Israel myself I can say point blank that the gut wrenching I went through when I first learned all of this to be true was traumatic. The other reason for the censorship of "hate speech" laws is to prevent exposure of the ongoing ethnic cleansing in Palestine which is nothing more than a slow motion mass murder. Liars and murderers desperately dislike being exposed as liars and murderers. That is also why they seek to distract from the facts through the constant barrage of hate and propaganda leveled at Islam and Muslims. There are other reasons - such as their own irrational ethnic hatreds, but the main reason is to distract from their OWN crimes against humanity. It is a standard m.o. of the criminal to point at the crimes of others or attempt to transfer responsibility for their crimes to someone else. It is a cloud of lies aimed only at preventing a judgment upon the truth.
It is a standard m.o. of the criminal to point at the crimes of others or attempt to transfer responsibility for their crimes to someone else. It is a cloud of lies aimed only at preventing a judgment upon the truth.
Have you ever read the wiki entry for Psychopathy? It describes the hardcore Zionist, or any other proponent of predatory politics, to a tee.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy
Psychopathy is a personality disorder whose hallmark is a lack of empathy. Robert Hare, a researcher in the field describes psychopaths as "intraspecies predators who use charm, manipulation, intimidation, sex and violence to control others and to satisfy their own selfish needs. Lacking in conscience and empathy, they take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without guilt or remorse". "What is missing, in other words, are the very qualities that allow a human being to live in social harmony."
Psychopaths are glib and superficially charming, and many psychopaths are excellent mimics of normal human emotion; some psychopaths can blend in, undetected, in a variety of surroundings, including corporate environments. There is neither a cure nor any effective treatment for psychopathy; there are no medications or other techniques which can instill empathy, and psychopaths who undergo traditional talk therapy only become more adept at manipulating others. The consensus among researchers is that psychopathy stems from a specific neurological disorder which is biological in origin and present from birth. It is estimated that one percent of the general population are psychopaths.
Psychopaths are glib and superficially charming, and many psychopaths are excellent mimics of normal human emotion; some psychopaths can blend in, undetected, in a variety of surroundings, including corporate environments.
Kind of like that nice boy next door - Ted Bundy, or on a larger scale a Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Bush, or Obama.
Obama strikes as a particularly good representative of "the clan". As was Bill Clinton. Both can lie with charm and grace all the while patting you on the back to find the best place to put the knife. Bush wasn't as convincing because he is a complete imbecile.
Bush wasn't as convincing because he is a complete imbecile.
Bush didn't take a teleprompter with him every place he went like Big O reportedly does. Of the 3 men you name, I'd say Billy Jeff is the only one who deserves credit for spontaneous charm/cerebral strengths.
I still remember a townhall meeting that Obama [ sans teleprompter] appeared at wherein he proposed his theory that tires and how they were inflated could be an important factor re: America attaining independence from fossil fuels. It was hilarious and ranked right up there with any Bushism I've read. And what's more pathetic about Obama's dimwitedness is that he is so full of himself he does not realize that he's a dope. Regarding his tire inflation theory, for example, Obie prattled on and on about it - not just a simple slip of the tongue - he really believed his nonsense was earth shattering brilliant.
Bush wasn't as convincing because he is a complete imbecile.
Bush didn't take a teleprompter with him every place he went like Big O reportedly does. Of the 3 men you name, I'd say Billy Jeff is the only one who deserves credit for spontaneous charm/cerebral strengths.
Yes, Bubba the Hut was a very good and charming psychopath. He still has apologists even now. And they excoriate Bush for his wars but always conveniently forget that Bubba had his own "war based on lies" in Kosovo. Which, as with Pipelinestan, was about Heroin and Mineral Wealth (the Trepka mining complex has an estimated recoverable mineral wealth of roughly 3 TRILLION dollars, and the main Heroin trade route in Europe is through Kosovo which the KLA was heavily involved in). Milosevic pissed off the Western Bankster Elite by giving the contract for its operation to a Greek company. Bad, bad, Milosevic.