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Title: Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View)
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URL Source: http://faithfreedom.org/islam/does-islam-breed-violence
Published: Nov 14, 2009
Author: Amil Amani
Post Date: 2009-12-03 22:32:29 by Liberator
Keywords: Islam, Bloody, Muslim, Cult
Views: 59047
Comments: 650
There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us that the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do. On the other hand are those who have been fed up with the numberless daily horrific acts that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam throughout the world. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed, on a daily basis, by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith. Would someone, please, explain what motivated Nidal Hasan who had been, at tax payer’s expense, educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against a nation that gave him everything he had? If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, why: * had he repeatedly preached the ascendancy of Islam to the U.S. Constitution? * had he publicly supported Islamic suicide bombing? * had he proclaimed his highest loyalty to Islam? * had he been in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam? * did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack? * did he keep screaming “Allah-o-Akbar” as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women? Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be. Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslim’s holy book, the Quran, in many suras: Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed." Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)." Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding." Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place." Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam." And the Quran is considered by Muslims as the word-for-word literal edicts of the Muslims’ god, Allah. Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophet’s son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. Ali with the assistance of one or two of his thugs, beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, had a sword that had its own name—Zolfaghar. Ali’s portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shi’a’-lands. And this man, Ali, is revered by the Shi’a at the same level as Muhammad. On the Sunni side, Muhammad’s co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. And to this day, a sword adorns the flag of the birthplace of the religion of peace, Saudi Arabia. And Islam, by the nature of its very doctrine, appeals to man’s base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more: Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure." In reality, Islam is like a deadly contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, this debilitating disease is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do. Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult of violence. The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as the normal part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time-to-time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit and quickly gets over it and does nothing to seriously address this affliction of humanity. The recent dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be forgotten by the public before very long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by agents of death, Islamists. Only the families who lost their loved-ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries, in the main, won’t be able to put the episode behind them. The mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity, ironically, in a man who was trained to help people with sanity was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam. Islam is a mental retrovirus that has mutated into numerous varieties and degrees of severity, over the past 1400 years. Everyone born in a Muslim family, as well as those who convert to Islam, contract a particular mutation of the Islamic Virus. As is the case with all retroviruses, the Islamic Virus burrows deeply in the person and erupts, from time-to-time with potentially devastating consequences. The Islamic Virus first divests the person of his most fundamental human attribute. It takes away his right to make decisions himself and absolves him, in return, of any responsibility for his actions rendered in blind obedience to it. A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of Islam—Submission—everything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran .The Raison d'être for the Muslim is to be an unconditional submissive to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a “good” Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, he is indoctrinated to believe. Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one another’s throat regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects’ dogma should rule. For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth, fighting the non-Muslims and infighting. Truth be told: Violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence. Author's Bio: Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution.
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#106. To: Liberator, mirage, AGAviator, christine, Prefrontal Vortex (#0)
I'm cruising along, reading this tripe, when I saw this: On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Liberator and mirage: are you down with this One World Paradise that the author speaks of? Both of you are using diversity propaganda as a method of countering Muslim immigration and, to be honest, it makes you come off as even bigger jerks than you already are.
No.
So you just use this fool's propaganda...why?
Which fool are you referring to? I do my own research and come to my own conclusions. With all the apologetics for Islam being thrown about, I still can't find an answer for why these "misunderstanders" of the Religion of Peace all seem to "misunderstand" Islam in exactly the same way. Try as I might, I cannot find an answer to that. Either it is a Religion of Peace and all Muslims are happy little folks frolicking their way through life or there is something about it that creates nutcases who scream "Allah Ackbar" while shooting up military bases in Texas or passing out candy while cheering the World Trade Center coming down. Most of the conflicts on the planet involve Muslims in one form or another. This is not a disputable statement. Muslims commit "honor killings" on a seemingly regular basis and in a number of countries, apostacizing from the official religion carries the death penalty. In Australia, the Lebanese immigrants have been on a tear. Cronulla Beach riots and rapings oh my. For some reason, it wasn't Lebanese Christians out telling women they can't wear bikinis. If you can work that one out so it wasn't Lebanese Muslims (which it was) then let me know. As for specfically WHY it happens to be that Muslims, and in particlar, Arabized Muslims do this stuff, I haven't got an answer as of yet. Bad culture perhaps? Not being slapped silly as a kid by mommy? Being forced to memorize the Koran by age 5 and not having any other books around? I honestly don't know ... yet. But I will leave you with a quote. "There is no fun in Islam." - Ayatollah Khomeini
Very little of what you have been discussing has to do with Islam. You mud slingers are attempting to conflate the behavior of a very small group of individuals out of 1.4 billion people into some sort of indictment of Islam, which is basically an Abrahamic religion having little differences between itself and what the Jews have in their Old Testament regarding what to do about adultery, war, unnatural sex acts, witchcraft, etc.. The Koran does not advocate honor killings, female genital mutilation, or suicide. It did advocate having non-Muslim people pay a tax at a time when so- called Christians were burning non-Christians at the stake and putting them on the rack among other niceties. I repeat. Jews found it to their advantage to live under Islam for 1,300 years, and a Jew or a Jew supporter should be the last to lecture any white person about being a dhimmi, or how there is anything wrong with Islam or its teachings.
Current estimates are that about 10-25% of all Muslims are of the Wahabbi school which DOES teach violence and terrorism and DOES claim that is part of Islam. Care to guess which MUSLIM nation funds Wahabbi schools and Mosques? It isn't just Sunni and Shia. There are multiple schools in Islam. Most of what you are quoting is Sunni Islam. There is more to it than you are letting on.
Care to guess why the biggest Wahabbi nation has never its billions of dollars of American military hardware against either the United States or Israel - if they are so violent and terroristic? Care to guess why American businesses do billiions of dollars of trade with that Wahhabi nation if they are so violent and terroristic? Even among madrassa graduates, what percentage of them actually ends up doing terrorist activities. OMG! The eevil terrorist Muslims are funding schools and making non-Muslims pay taxes!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!
Which Madrassas? Do you even know anything about Islam? You are a moron and an apologist for murder. May you suffer a fate dealt out by those you would defend in exactly the same manner you mock. A curse upon you, and as Allah is the best of schemers, it will be so.
Yes, I do. I know that it is a belief system only slightly less retrograde than joodaism, saying basically the same things as the OT/Torah only embellished up to the 7th century, and oddly enough purporting to obey the same deity. That being said, I repeat. You are attempting to conflate the actions and beliefs of an insignificant portion of the total population into some sort of indictment of the system as a whole. Yet you can cite no objective facts or statistics or facts to support your claims in any way, shape, or form. So like the disingenuous dissembler that you are, you resort to hyperbole, arm-waving, and name-calling. As all you joos do whenever you are cornered. Both the Hadith and Torah agree on the fate of you and your joos. See my tag line.
You just lost. If there are a billion or two Muslims and 10-25% follow a school (Wahabbiism) that advocates violence, then that "insignificant portion" is about the population of the United States. 200 or 300 million to you is "insignificant" and yet you whine about Israel and the Joos all the time who number 1/10 of that, or about 30 million total. You are a complete blithering idiot who lies when he has lost. You lose, buddy. You are so lost.
I bet they have long memories, as well. Invading and butchering two of their countries was, then, probably a bad idea.
There are jokes among Arabs about taking revenge after only 20 years (or 30 or 50 or whatever) where the punchline is always "Why so soon?"
1) Islam breeds violence--oh, ok-- so invading and butchering two of thier countries is a great idea along the lines of "Hey, y'all, watch me go slap that homicidal maniac in the face." 2) Now they have a real reason to hate US for generations to come--Zionist Islamophobia becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. 3) 10-25% (or whatever that Zionist propaganda number was above) of Muslims are inbred, intractable violent fanatics. WELL WITH THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS IN AMERICA, WHERE HAVE BEEN THE DAILY AND WIDESPRERD VIOLENCE AND ATTACKS that you attach to these people. Hasn't been happening. 4) You clowns actually believe that Iraq, Afghanistan and Muslims are and were a direct and real threat to the United States States of America--abject, laughable bullsh*t. 5) Islam breeds violence--how would you all react to this thread "Judaism breeds greed and corruption" and think about how my tragline is RIGHT NOW bankrupting America and destroying American culture and society while they have you bitching and worrying about Muslims. Oy.
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail," Rabbi Yaacov Perrin
The process of mass expulsion was made all the more easy with massacres of entire villages, the details of which were then made known to outlying towns resulting in mass panic and subsequent flight. Of the more infamous massacres taking place was the slaughter at Deir Yassin, where Jewish terrorists butchered as many as 250 men, women and children, including–if it can be imagined–pregnant women who had their bellies slashed open with Jewish bayonets and their unborn children ripped out in what was a repeat performance of what the ancient Israelites did to the Tiphsahite women in the Old Testament as recounted in the Book of Kings. Some of the testimonies of those who witnessed and even participated in the slaughter at Deir Yassin have testified that– “We eliminated every Arab that came our way.” –Ben Zion Cohen, an Irgun commander “I saw the horrors that the fighters had created. I saw bodies of women and children, who were murdered in their houses in cold blood by gunfire, with no signs of battle and not as the result of blowing up the houses. I have seen a great deal of war, but I never saw a sight like Deir Yassin.” –Eliahu Arbel, Operations Officer in the Jewish Haganah “The attackers chose to kill anybody they found alive as though every living thing in the village was the enemy and they could only think ‘kill them all.’… It was a lovely spring day, the almond trees were in bloom, the flowers were out and everywhere there was the stench of the dead, the thick smell of blood, and the terrible odor of the corpses burning in the quarry.” –Yeshurun Shiff, assistant to David Shaltiel, commander of Jewish Haganah forces in Jerusalem “… A total of more than 200 dead, men, women, and children…One was a woman who must have been eight months pregnant, hit in the stomach, with powder burns on her dress indicating she’d been shot point-blank.” –Jacques de Reynier, Representative of the International Red Cross “In the houses there were dead, in all about a hundred men, women and children. It was terrible. It was clear that the attackers had gone from house to house and shot the people at close range. I was a doctor in the German army for 5 years in World War I but I had not seen such a horrifying spectacle.” –Dr. Alfred Engel, Red Cross worker “What we saw were women, young children, and old men. What shocked us was at least two or three cases of old men dressed in women’s clothes. My conclusion was that what happened in the village so terrorized these old men that they knew being old men would not save them. They hoped that if they were seen as old women that would save them.” –Yair Tsaban, was one of several youths tasked with burying the dead at Deir Yessin Menachem Begin, one of the commanders overseeing the slaughter and who would one day become one of Israel’s Prime Ministers later remarked gloatingly that– “The Arabs throughout the country were seized with limitless panic and started to flee for their lives and this mass flight soon developed into a maddened, uncontrollable stampede. The political and economic significance of this development can hardly be overestimated.” The slaughter in villages such as took place at Deir Yassin were done to affect the circumstances as they exist today–to rid Palestine of Gentiles so that Israel could be a “Jews only“ state in the exact fashion as described in the same Old Testament acting as a road map for all obnoxious, violent, narcissistic Jewish behavior seen not only today but throughout history. Despite the mountains of evidence in the form of photos and testimony, nevertheless in typical lying, obfuscating fashion Israel and her supporters continue to maintain as they have for the last 60 years that no massacres took place, that there was no Jewish plan to force the Arabs to leave and that the Palestinians fled because various Arab governments told them to leave. Out of the horse’s mouth though the lies are laid bare. David Ben Gurion, Israel’s 1st Prime Minister who personally oversaw the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in 1948 spoke of what was to come decades before the Nakbah took place– “In many parts of the country new settlement will not be possible without transferring the Palestinian Arabs… Jewish power, which grows steadily, will also increase our possibilities to carry out the transfer on a large scale…With compulsory transfer we would have a vast area for settlement…I support compulsory transfer. I don’t see anything immoral in it…There are two issues here–1) sovereignty and 2) the removal of a certain number of Arabs, and we must insist on both of them.” And indicating that violence was the only way to achieve this, Ben Gurion wrote years earlier that– “It is impossible to imagine general evacuation without brutal compulsion. It would be very difficult to bring about resettlement of other Arab populations by transferring them voluntarily, whatever economic inducements are offered to them.”
The process of mass expulsion was made all the more easy with massacres of entire villages, the details of which were then made known to outlying towns resulting in mass panic and subsequent flight. Of the more infamous massacres taking place was the slaughter at Deir Yassin, where Jewish terrorists butchered as many as 250 men, women and children, including–if it can be imagined–pregnant women who had their bellies slashed open with Jewish bayonets and their unborn children ripped out in what was a repeat performance of what the ancient Israelites did to the Tiphsahite women in the Old Testament as recounted in the Book of Kings. Some of the testimonies of those who witnessed and even participated in the slaughter at Deir Yassin have testified that– “We eliminated every Arab that came our way.” –Ben Zion Cohen, an Irgun commander “I saw the horrors that the fighters had created. I saw bodies of women and children, who were murdered in their houses in cold blood by gunfire, with no signs of battle and not as the result of blowing up the houses. I have seen a great deal of war, but I never saw a sight like Deir Yassin.” –Eliahu Arbel, Operations Officer in the Jewish Haganah “The attackers chose to kill anybody they found alive as though every living thing in the village was the enemy and they could only think ‘kill them all.’… It was a lovely spring day, the almond trees were in bloom, the flowers were out and everywhere there was the stench of the dead, the thick smell of blood, and the terrible odor of the corpses burning in the quarry.” –Yeshurun Shiff, assistant to David Shaltiel, commander of Jewish Haganah forces in Jerusalem “… A total of more than 200 dead, men, women, and children…One was a woman who must have been eight months pregnant, hit in the stomach, with powder burns on her dress indicating she’d been shot point-blank.” –Jacques de Reynier, Representative of the International Red Cross “In the houses there were dead, in all about a hundred men, women and children. It was terrible. It was clear that the attackers had gone from house to house and shot the people at close range. I was a doctor in the German army for 5 years in World War I but I had not seen such a horrifying spectacle.” –Dr. Alfred Engel, Red Cross worker “What we saw were women, young children, and old men. What shocked us was at least two or three cases of old men dressed in women’s clothes. My conclusion was that what happened in the village so terrorized these old men that they knew being old men would not save them. They hoped that if they were seen as old women that would save them.” –Yair Tsaban, was one of several youths tasked with burying the dead at Deir Yessin Menachem Begin, one of the commanders overseeing the slaughter and who would one day become one of Israel’s Prime Ministers later remarked gloatingly that– “The Arabs throughout the country were seized with limitless panic and started to flee for their lives and this mass flight soon developed into a maddened, uncontrollable stampede. The political and economic significance of this development can hardly be overestimated.” The slaughter in villages such as took place at Deir Yassin were done to affect the circumstances as they exist today–to rid Palestine of Gentiles so that Israel could be a “Jews only“ state in the exact fashion as described in the same Old Testament acting as a road map for all obnoxious, violent, narcissistic Jewish behavior seen not only today but throughout history. Despite the mountains of evidence in the form of photos and testimony, nevertheless in typical lying, obfuscating fashion Israel and her supporters continue to maintain as they have for the last 60 years that no massacres took place, that there was no Jewish plan to force the Arabs to leave and that the Palestinians fled because various Arab governments told them to leave. Out of the horse’s mouth though the lies are laid bare. David Ben Gurion, Israel’s 1st Prime Minister who personally oversaw the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in 1948 spoke of what was to come decades before the Nakbah took place– “In many parts of the country new settlement will not be possible without transferring the Palestinian Arabs… Jewish power, which grows steadily, will also increase our possibilities to carry out the transfer on a large scale…With compulsory transfer we would have a vast area for settlement…I support compulsory transfer. I don’t see anything immoral in it…There are two issues here–1) sovereignty and 2) the removal of a certain number of Arabs, and we must insist on both of them.” And indicating that violence was the only way to achieve this, Ben Gurion wrote years earlier that– “It is impossible to imagine general evacuation without brutal compulsion. It would be very difficult to bring about resettlement of other Arab populations by transferring them voluntarily, whatever economic inducements are offered to them.”
Put that in your pipe and smoke it ping.
#649. To: wudidiz (#648)
When confronted by reality, Israel Firsters usually start yelling names, cursing, throwing smear tactics, and complain to the management. Here, the intellectual cowards simply disappear and must pretend they were never pinged.
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#108. To: bluegrass (#106)
are you down with this One World Paradise
#110. To: mirage (#108)
#116. To: bluegrass (#110)
So you just use this fool's propaganda...why?
#144. To: mirage, bluegrass, Original_intent, christine (#116)
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With all the apologetics for Islam being thrown about, I still can't find an answer for why these "misunderstanders" of the Religion of Peace all seem to "misunderstand" Islam in exactly the same way.
#336. To: AGAviator (#144)
You mud slingers are attempting to conflate the behavior of a very small group of individuals out of 1.4 billion people into some sort of indictment of Islam
#367. To: mirage, bluegrass, wbales (#336)
Care to guess which MUSLIM nation funds Wahabbi schools and Mosques?
#468. To: AGAviator (#367)
Even among madrassa graduates, what percentage of them actually ends up doing terrorist activities.
#474. To: mirage (#468)
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Which Madrassas? Do you even know anything about Islam?
You are a moron and an apologist for murder. May you suffer a fate dealt out by those you would defend in exactly the same manner you mock. A curse upon you, and as Allah is the best of schemers, it will be so.
#515. To: AGAviator (#474)
You are attempting to conflate the actions and beliefs of an insignificant portion of the total population into some sort of indictment of the system as a whole. Yet you can cite no objective facts or statistics or facts to support your claims in any way, shape, or form.
#529. To: mirage (#515)
If there are a billion or two Muslims and 10-25% follow a school (Wahabbiism) that advocates violence,
#612. To: wbales (#529)
I bet they have long memories, as well.
#614. To: mirage, Liberator, sneakypete, any Zionist brainwashed Islamophobes (#612)
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There are jokes among Arabs about taking revenge after only 20 years (or 30 or 50 or whatever) where the punchline is always "Why so soon?"
#620. To: wbales, Original_Intent, wudidiz (#614)
Islam breeds violence
#622. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent, wudidiz (#620)
Islam breeds violence
#623. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent, wudidiz (#622)
Islam breeds violence
#647. To: Shoonra (#623)
#648. To: Shoonra (#647)
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