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Title: Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View)
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URL Source: http://faithfreedom.org/islam/does-islam-breed-violence
Published: Nov 14, 2009
Author: Amil Amani
Post Date: 2009-12-03 22:32:29 by Liberator
Keywords: Islam, Bloody, Muslim, Cult
Views: 58640
Comments: 650
There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us that the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do. On the other hand are those who have been fed up with the numberless daily horrific acts that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam throughout the world. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed, on a daily basis, by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith. Would someone, please, explain what motivated Nidal Hasan who had been, at tax payer’s expense, educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against a nation that gave him everything he had? If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, why: * had he repeatedly preached the ascendancy of Islam to the U.S. Constitution? * had he publicly supported Islamic suicide bombing? * had he proclaimed his highest loyalty to Islam? * had he been in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam? * did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack? * did he keep screaming “Allah-o-Akbar” as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women? Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be. Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslim’s holy book, the Quran, in many suras: Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed." Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)." Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding." Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place." Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam." And the Quran is considered by Muslims as the word-for-word literal edicts of the Muslims’ god, Allah. Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophet’s son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. Ali with the assistance of one or two of his thugs, beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, had a sword that had its own name—Zolfaghar. Ali’s portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shi’a’-lands. And this man, Ali, is revered by the Shi’a at the same level as Muhammad. On the Sunni side, Muhammad’s co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. And to this day, a sword adorns the flag of the birthplace of the religion of peace, Saudi Arabia. And Islam, by the nature of its very doctrine, appeals to man’s base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more: Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure." In reality, Islam is like a deadly contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, this debilitating disease is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do. Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult of violence. The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as the normal part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time-to-time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit and quickly gets over it and does nothing to seriously address this affliction of humanity. The recent dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be forgotten by the public before very long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by agents of death, Islamists. Only the families who lost their loved-ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries, in the main, won’t be able to put the episode behind them. The mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity, ironically, in a man who was trained to help people with sanity was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam. Islam is a mental retrovirus that has mutated into numerous varieties and degrees of severity, over the past 1400 years. Everyone born in a Muslim family, as well as those who convert to Islam, contract a particular mutation of the Islamic Virus. As is the case with all retroviruses, the Islamic Virus burrows deeply in the person and erupts, from time-to-time with potentially devastating consequences. The Islamic Virus first divests the person of his most fundamental human attribute. It takes away his right to make decisions himself and absolves him, in return, of any responsibility for his actions rendered in blind obedience to it. A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of Islam—Submission—everything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran .The Raison d'être for the Muslim is to be an unconditional submissive to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a “good” Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, he is indoctrinated to believe. Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one another’s throat regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects’ dogma should rule. For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth, fighting the non-Muslims and infighting. Truth be told: Violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence. Author's Bio: Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution.
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#47. To: AGAviator (#45)
Ah, see, there are a number of commentaries from the Caliphate discussing that exact point. The trouble is, they went and killed a bunch of infidels and then had no tax revenue, so they had quite a discussion. Funny how it always comes down to taxes and money somehow, doesn't it? Allah requires your greenbacks. Now, for the bonus round, what happens if the infidels fail to pay their protection money?
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Then enlighten us all, please.
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I'll enlighten you. 'Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View)' This crap is pro-war propaganda. Bottom line.
Now, for the bonus round, what happens if the infidels fail to pay their protection money? I hope you don't take the Bible as literally as you take the Koran. You will be in another world of hurt. lolol
Although written by an atheist, at least a basic understanding of how the term is defined For one thing, its identification as a region of war is based upon the premise that strife and conflict are necessary consequences of people failing to follow God's will. In theory, at least, when everyone is consistent in their adherence to the rules set down by God, then peace and harmony will result.
Weenie Wacker Y*h*w*h, aided and abetted by gutless Presidents and both Houses of Congress, wants more of them. The same effing thing that would happen to you if you don't pay a parking ticket, I presume.
Yes it does breed violence, but it doesn't hold a candle to the violence that Judaism breeds.
God is always good!
I use commentaries for the Koran and we have a friendly local Imam who says that Sura 9:5 is "problematic" and explained to me why things are taken the way they are. "Misunderstanders" of Islam all seem to "misunderstand" it the same way. Why? If you compare the Bible to the Koran you find a glaring difference. Old Testament: "And God said to some person 'Go thou forth into the promised land and slay the Hittites, rape their women, and do a bunch of other nasty stuff." Koran: "And do nasty stuff to people" The difference? The Bible time-limits and directs individuals at certain times in certain places. It is pretty consistent in that. The Koran is open-ended. There are no time limits or places or specific people in many of the verses. Obviously, some people take that open-endedness a bit too seriously.
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Funny how that happens, isn't it, but they don't consider it 'dar al harb' if it is under Muslim rule. Now, for the bonus question, what two things are Muslims required to do per their religion before commencing hostilities, what is a 'hudna' and what is the penalty for apostacy in Islam and why is it that way?
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Which version is that from? Just kidding, but seriously, how is that time-limiting? More importantly, many followers of the Bible justify the nasty doings with these verses. Time-limited or not.
Actually, what happens is that you become an 'outlaw' in the traditional sense of the word (meaning you are outside the PROTECTION of the law) and the public may do with you as they please. Rape, murder, assault - you're outside of their protection and they may feel free to have at you as they see fit. Better pay your protection money promptly if you're under Islamic rule and you don't feel like converting. Oh, and as a bonus, the Koran and Hadiths encourage the collection of the jizya to be "humiliating" to the unbeliever. Expect the collection to be impolite. Also, don't expect to be able to build a Church with much ease in an Islamic nation. If you pay, you are allowed to seek permission to do so, but they don't make it too easy to get that permission. Atheists, well, they're pretty much screwed as the Koran limits the niceties to the "people of the book" - meaning Christians and Jews.
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Oh, aren't you full of yourself.. Let me take a wild-ass guess. The same things prescribed in Deuteronomy 20: 10- 18??? 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby. 16 However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy [a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you.
The "time limit" is that the instruction is given to a specific person at a specific time in a specific place. If I say to you, "Dude, go to the store and pick me up a pack of smokes" do you consider that to be an instruction for one specific time or do you consider it to be an instruction in perpetuity? People who try to squeeze a lot of those verses into a "for all time" aren't taking the context appropriately. It doesn't stop them from trying to do it, but it gives the rest of us some ammunition to go after them with.
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You would be correct with the penalty for apostacy, except its not limited to the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites as your verses from Deuteronomy would indicate. How about the rest of it? Care to define a 'hudna' for us?
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Yes, the Jews in Turkey were so ***humiliated*** they became advisers to the Sultan himself, while the Jews in Spain were so ***humiliated*** by the Moors that when the Moors left, the Jews left with them....
It's the New World Order Zionist Satanists we need be far more concerned with.
They did? Explain the Inquistion then, if they all left.
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How about taking out the plank in your own eye before you comment on the speck in your neighbor's eye? A Jew said that. You had him killed for saying things like that, of course.
You think the Inquisitors were that good they never make any mistakes? LOL!
Explain how "Sephardic" [translation - "Spanish"] Jews ended up in Turkey. Was Turkey ever part of Spain?
Nobody is perfect, least of all you. So, define 'hudna' for us, please, since you are the self-proclaimed expert on Islam here tonight.
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The "time limit" is that the instruction is given to a specific person at a specific time in a specific place. If I say to you, "Dude, go to the store and pick me up a pack of smokes" do you consider that to be an instruction for one specific time or do you consider it to be an instruction in perpetuity? People who try to squeeze a lot of those verses into a "for all time" aren't taking the context appropriately. It doesn't stop them from trying to do it, but it gives the rest of us some ammunition to go after them with. Yes, thank you for clarifying. The problem is that many will take this type of verse found in the OT... "And God said to some person 'Go thou forth into the promised land and slay the (Hittites), rape their women, and do a bunch of other nasty stuff." And use it to justify what is happening in Palestine now. WTH did Liberator go anyway?
You are not controlling the conversation. Define it yourself. If you are wrong and I feel like it, I will rebut you.
...and use it to justify slavery in the American South...and anything else that they want to use it to justify... Yes, it is a problem and it is one that has been around for a long long time and is not likely to go away anytime soon. The Palestinians need to take a lesson from Mohammed and call a hudna.
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Absolute and utter bull$hit. You can make just as much an argument that the Koran applies to the Arabian Peninsula in the 7th Century as the OT applies to whenever the Hittites and Canaanites existed. More importantly, today's Jews are still fighting with the descendants of those individuals their deity commanded them to slaughter. Now for your ****bonus question.*** Are today's Jews still worshipping that same deity?
You just don't know what it means. Its OK to admit it. Go ahead.
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Obviously you don't otherwise you would have described it already.
I already used it in a sentence above.
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You did not define it, and any definition will naturally have an element of propaganda in it. Otherwise you never would have brought the term up.
Not in the slightest. But since you appear to have issues with how I used the term, please enlighten us as to what your issues are, oh expert one.
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since you brought this up, i searched "Is Islam a Peaceful Religion" and found the following. a different point of view. With all due respect Chris, in attempting to appear even-handed, you've succumbed to PC-ism. This paragraph below is an obvious desperate attempt by a Muslim leader to dispel the disturbing truth of the matter about Islam while blaming "propaganda." Whenever one wishes to speak about Islam as a religion of peace, the question naturally springs to mind that whereas there are so many religions in the world such as Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc., when it comes to finding out whether Islam is a religion of peace, why should Islam be the odd one out? One reason for this is that a few years after the beginning of Islam, anti- Islamic powers began a propaganda that Islam is a religion of extremism and violence and wants to compel others into belief by means of the sword. This, of course, is incorrect. Ironically the Goebellian speech is given in black Africa - the scene of countless slaughters, decapitations, and dismemberment of tribes - courtesy of the "Religion of Peace," Islam. Is ANY of what the advocates of the Death Cult Islam to be believed?? It's like buying 0bama or Robert Gibbs blaming "FOX" or "conservatism" for liberal-Left policies.
As will I. Congratulations. You then support and carry water for the Insane Death Cult known as ISLAM.
Are those photos of yours supposed to support your claim that Israelis are more violent than your crazy Muslim Death Cult? This photo defines Islam (the victim herself appears to be a Muslim female.) You're as sick as those you defend.
No, the Muslim Shill can NOT handle the truth; only twist it, divert, distract, and propagandize it.
And Father Abraham said: Was Abraham a Muslim?
American tax dollars did not pay for that beheading, dissembling SOS. American tax dollars did pay for this one.
I'm not Jewish, moonbat. Now what? You are parasites living off of America, and I am on America's side. YOU are an anti-American pro-Muslim POS liar. AV, you are on the side of the sick and depraved; You cheer on Muslims who murder innocent blood around the world WHEREVER they infect it. OI, you may play that game of neutrality with a twist - but no one's buying it. YOU will always be cheering for Islam to wipe Israel off the face of the earth - just like the other Islamic Death Cultists like your pro-jihadist pal.
Mirage has already pwned you. (yawn)
American tax dollars did pay for this one. Except you pathetic anti-American raghead, American troops do NOT celebrate Death. Innocent death makes them sick. They've taken great care NOT to be careless - considering Muzzies are sniping at Americans from Mosques and behind women and children. Effin cowards that they are. Your Muslim brethren kill...for kicks. They rampage through African villages slashing off the breasts of defenseless mothers, dismembering men, women and children - ALL in the name of Allah. Gonna blame the Joos or Americans for that too? Would you like to see more grizzly photos?
You are not controlling the conversation. He already did; You came up empty. EPIC FAIL.
Who quoted the Koran correctly, dissembling SOS? 9-4. (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous. 9-5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 9-6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge. 9-7. How can there be a league, before Allah and His Messenger, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestNon-Muslims are obligated to pay taxes instead of giving alms.
Now how did the Muslims tax all those dead infidels they supposedly massacred?
#48. To: AGAviator (#46)
I certainly do, and what's more I know the real meaning
#49. To: mirage (#48)
Then enlighten us all, please.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#50. To: mirage (#47)
Funny how it always comes down to taxes and money somehow, doesn't it? Allah requires your greenbacks.
#51. To: mirage (#48)
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The nature of dar al-harb, which literally means "territory of war," needs to be explained in a bit more detail.
That being said, the continuous internecine strife in Muslim regions between Muslims demonstrates that they too are living in dar-al-harb.
#52. To: mirage (#47)
Funny how it always comes down to taxes and money somehow, doesn't it? Allah requires your greenbacks.
Now, for the bonus round, what happens if the infidels fail to pay their protection money?
#53. To: Liberator (#0)
#54. To: mininggold (#50)
I hope you don't take the Bible as literally as you take the Koran. You will be in another world of hurt. lolol
#55. To: AGAviator (#51)
That being said, the continuous internecine strife in Muslim regions between Muslims demonstrates that they too are living in dar-al-harb.
#56. To: mirage, mininggold (#54)
Old Testament: "And God said to some person 'Go thou forth into the promised land and slay the Hittites, rape their women, and do a bunch of other nasty stuff."
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#57. To: AGAviator (#52)
The same effing thing that would happen to you if you don't pay a parking ticket, I presume.
#58. To: mirage, wudidiz, Original_Intent, christine (#55)
Now, for the bonus question, what two things are Muslims required to do per their religion before commencing hostilities, what is a 'hudna' and what is the penalty for apostacy in Islam and why is it that way?
10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace.
#59. To: wudidiz (#56)
Just kidding, but seriously, how is that time-limiting?
#60. To: AGAviator (#58)
Let me take a wild-ass guess.
#61. To: mirage (#57)
Oh, and as a bonus, the Koran and Hadiths encourage the collection of the jizya to be "humiliating" to the unbeliever
#62. To: AGAviator, mirage, mininggold, RickyJ, Prefrontal Vortex, Original_Intent, christine (#58)
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#63. To: AGAviator (#61)
the Jews in Spain were so ***humiliated*** by the Moors that when the Moors left, the Jews left with them....
#64. To: mirage (#60)
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How about the rest of it? Care to define a 'hudna' for us?
#65. To: mirage (#63)
Explain the Inquistion then, if they all left.
#66. To: mirage (#63)
Explain the Inquistion then, if they all left.
#67. To: AGAviator (#65)
You think the Inquisitors were that good they never make any mistakes?
#68. To: mirage, mininggold, all (#59)
Just kidding, but seriously, how is that time-limiting?
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
#69. To: mirage (#67)
So, define 'hudna' for us, please.
#70. To: wudidiz (#68)
The problem is that many will take this type of verse found in the OT...
#71. To: mirage, mininggold (#54)
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The difference? The Bible time-limits and directs individuals at certain times in certain places. It is pretty consistent in that. The Koran is open-ended. There are no time limits or places or specific people in many of the verses.
#72. To: AGAviator (#69)
If you are wrong and I feel like it, I will rebut you.
#73. To: mirage (#72)
#74. To: AGAviator (#73)
Obviously you don't otherwise you would have described it already.
#75. To: mirage (#74)
#76. To: AGAviator (#75)
You did not define it, and any definition will naturally have an element of propaganda in it. Otherwise you never would have brought the term up.
#77. To: christine (#22)
no, as i said, i'm neither an apologist or defender of Islam or any other religion, but i'm also not going to indict all muslims either. it's the extremists who are the problem.
#78. To: Original_Intent (#23)
Now who will step forward here and defend AGAviator?
#79. To: AGAviator (#25)
#80. To: mirage, AGAviator (#26)
You can't handle the truth.
#81. To: mirage (#40)
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
"By your sword you shall live, and your brother you shall serve. But when you become restive, you will throw his yoke from off your neck."
Genesis 27:40
#82. To: Liberator (#79)
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#83. To: AGAviator, Original_Intent (#27)
Screw you, joos.
#84. To: AGAviator, mirage (#81)
#85. To: AGAviator (#82)
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American tax dollars did not pay for that beheading, dissembling SOS.
#86. To: AGAviator, mirage (#69)
So, define 'hudna' for us, please.
#87. To: Liberator (#80)
Can NOT handle the truth
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