Title: Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View) Source:
FaithFreedomOrg URL Source:http://faithfreedom.org/islam/does-islam-breed-violence Published:Nov 14, 2009 Author:Amil Amani Post Date:2009-12-03 22:32:29 by Liberator Keywords:Islam, Bloody, Muslim, Cult Views:59913 Comments:650
There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us that the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do.
On the other hand are those who have been fed up with the numberless daily horrific acts that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam throughout the world. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed, on a daily basis, by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith.
Would someone, please, explain what motivated Nidal Hasan who had been, at tax payer’s expense, educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against a nation that gave him everything he had?
If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, why:
* had he repeatedly preached the ascendancy of Islam to the U.S. Constitution?
* had he publicly supported Islamic suicide bombing?
* had he proclaimed his highest loyalty to Islam?
* had he been in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam?
* did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack?
* did he keep screaming “Allah-o-Akbar” as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women?
Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be. Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslim’s holy book, the Quran, in many suras:
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."
Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."
Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."
And the Quran is considered by Muslims as the word-for-word literal edicts of the Muslims’ god, Allah.
Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophet’s son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. Ali with the assistance of one or two of his thugs, beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, had a sword that had its own name—Zolfaghar. Ali’s portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shi’a’-lands. And this man, Ali, is revered by the Shi’a at the same level as Muhammad.
On the Sunni side, Muhammad’s co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. And to this day, a sword adorns the flag of the birthplace of the religion of peace, Saudi Arabia.
And Islam, by the nature of its very doctrine, appeals to man’s base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more:
Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."
In reality, Islam is like a deadly contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, this debilitating disease is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do.
Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult of violence.
The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as the normal part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time-to-time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit and quickly gets over it and does nothing to seriously address this affliction of humanity.
The recent dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be forgotten by the public before very long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by agents of death, Islamists. Only the families who lost their loved-ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries, in the main, won’t be able to put the episode behind them.
The mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity, ironically, in a man who was trained to help people with sanity was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam.
Islam is a mental retrovirus that has mutated into numerous varieties and degrees of severity, over the past 1400 years. Everyone born in a Muslim family, as well as those who convert to Islam, contract a particular mutation of the Islamic Virus. As is the case with all retroviruses, the Islamic Virus burrows deeply in the person and erupts, from time-to-time with potentially devastating consequences.
The Islamic Virus first divests the person of his most fundamental human attribute. It takes away his right to make decisions himself and absolves him, in return, of any responsibility for his actions rendered in blind obedience to it.
A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of Islam—Submission—everything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran .The Raison d'être for the Muslim is to be an unconditional submissive to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a “good” Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, he is indoctrinated to believe.
Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one another’s throat regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects’ dogma should rule.
For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth, fighting the non-Muslims and infighting.
Truth be told: Violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence.
Author's Bio:
Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution.
That is your opinion and welcome to it. We all have that.
However DONT bring the endless obscene name calling here. All of us have seen quite enough of that in our lives.
If you look on any discussion board you choose, it is impossible for an Israel apologist and/or WOT supporter to remain civil and factual for any length of time.
Their glorified versions of history such as the Crusades and the Middle Ages are demonstrably false, their claims of Jewish persecution over the ages wither once actions of Jews over the ages to make themselves intensely disliked are recounted, and there is no justification in today's day and age for one country to be set up for the benefit of one religion, even to the point of forcibly evicting people who were there first and members of another religion.
So all they have left is hyperbole "Terrist lover! Muslim! Hitlerite!" and name calling. Without that they have nothing.
"By your sword you shall live, and your brother you shall serve. But when you become restive, you will cast his yoke from off your neck." Genesis 27:40
You mean "Cast Lead" where the mighty Israeli Army showed their manliness by using White Phosphorous on children, and using children as human shields to do search and destroy on the rest of their families? You mean "Cast Lead" where they bombarded a third world ghetto with all the modern firepower of a first world ghetto in an assault that even their most sycophantic apologists have trouble not admitting that it was a hellish war crime (including Depleted Uranium tipped weapons leaving toxic residue for the next 4.5 Billion years)? That "Cast Lead"?
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
There is still a lot of good if you look around you on a local level. Maybe not for you because you live in NYC,but there is for those of us who live in "fly over country".
It's when you get to the national level that things go all to hell.
If you look on any discussion board you choose, it is impossible for an Israel apologist and/or WOT supporter to remain civil and factual for any length of time.
Yeah,Abdul,and the fact that you think I am either,never mind both,only proves you are a fool and a propagandist.
If you look on any discussion board you choose, it is impossible for an Israel apologist and/or WOT supporter to remain civil and factual for any length of time.
Yeah,Abdul,and the fact that you think I am either,never mind both,only proves you are a fool and a propagandist.
A popular writer for ynet news demonstrated great courage [ and humility, imo] for a column he wrote about 3 years ago. And yes, he was castigated for his honesty.
I have been thrown out of several, body and britches, into the middle of the street.
Most of them I took that as a badge of honor.
This site is the most open and tolerant of any I have inhabited. Right after I came here, the owner requested I NOT post to certain posters and threads. I said, "Yes Ma'am" and we get along reasonably well.
Your language will not win you any friends here on 4um.
There's an old legal aphorism that goes, "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table."
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#467. To: scrapper2, sneakypete, AGAviator, all (#462)(Edited)
If you look on any discussion board you choose, it is impossible for an Israel apologist and/or WOT supporter to remain civil and factual for any length of time.
Yeah,Abdul,and the fact that you think I am either,never mind both,only proves you are a fool and a propagandist.
A popular writer for ynet news demonstrated great courage [ and humility, imo] for a column he wrote about 3 years ago. And yes, he was castigated for his honesty.
And that is the sanitized version. What he left out was the pogrom launched against Orthodox Christianity. Thousands of Orthodox Priests were murdered, many tortured to death, and their churches desecrated. Synagogues and Rabbis were left largely untouched.
The biggest problem with this for the Zionazis is that much of the mayhem was perpetrated by ethnically Jewish Psychopathic murderers. This presents a problem for them on several levels.
1. It removes the Nazi Mass Murders from first place as the largest Mass Murder of the 20th Century.
2. Jews were intimately involved in the massive murder rampage in Russia. This is easily contrasted with the inflated mass murder of Jews by Hitler. The Holy Six Million is still used (in the Zionist controlled press and by Israeli/Zionist PR Flacks and Politicians) despite the fact that the 6 million number has been reduced by 3 million by mainstream historians at Auschwitz alone. The memorial Plaque at Auschwitz which used to 4 million were murdered there now says "about" 1 million were). However, in Zionist arithmetic 6 million minus 3 million = 6 million. As well it has been admitted that the supposed "Gas Chambers" were built by the Soviets following WWII. This is not to excuse the Nazis, I don't - the Third Reich was a Psychopathic Criminal Regime, but to underscore the reality that this horrible crime has been inflated and used strictly for Propaganda purposes.
3. It directly undercuts the justification used to justify the formation of "pooooooor little Israel®" as some of its founding leadership came out of the Stalinist Camp in Russia (e.g., David Ben Gurion). The Kibbutz are based directly on Soviet Farm Collectives. And this is before you discuss just how the Arabs were driven from their own land by terrorist groups such as Irgun, Hagannah, and The Stern Gang. The problem for the Zionazis is that the Jewish intimate involvement in the Bolshevik Great Terror and Murder Machine is that it is directly contrary to the Propaganda cry of persecution. Here they were at the highest levels of power and behaved no differently than the Nazis they excoriate and use to justify their current criminality in Israel.
And all of that is before you include the collaboration of German Zionists with the Nazi Death Machine. Which is well documented by Lenni Brenner in his book "51 Documents". Which is built around the 51 documents he researched out of the archives of the Third Reich demonstrating clearly and unequivocally proving the collaboration. Of course there is as well the 150,000 Jews who served in the German Werhmact.
This is why the ADL and other Jewish groups are so adamant and insistent about passing "Hate Speech" Laws as they want to make it illegal hate speech to bring up any of this historically accurate and well documented information (as well as preventing mention of the War Crimes ongoing in Israel). This is why the apologists for Israel and Zionism have such explosive reactions to being confronted with this information. For the duped it shakes the stable foundation around which they have oriented their view of the world. Their entire edifice is founded upon and supported by lies and they cannot, and are completely unwilling to examine it as it is too horrble for them to confront. As a former apologist, and a good strong one, for Israel myself I can say point blank that the gut wrenching I went through when I first learned all of this to be true was traumatic. The other reason for the censorship of "hate speech" laws is to prevent exposure of the ongoing ethnic cleansing in Palestine which is nothing more than a slow motion mass murder. Liars and murderers desperately dislike being exposed as liars and murderers. That is also why they seek to distract from the facts through the constant barrage of hate and propaganda leveled at Islam and Muslims. There are other reasons - such as their own irrational ethnic hatreds, but the main reason is to distract from their OWN crimes against humanity. It is a standard m.o. of the criminal to point at the crimes of others or attempt to transfer responsibility for their crimes to someone else. It is a cloud of lies aimed only at preventing a judgment upon the truth.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Even among madrassa graduates, what percentage of them actually ends up doing terrorist activities.
Which Madrassas? Do you even know anything about Islam?
You are a moron and an apologist for murder. May you suffer a fate dealt out by those you would defend in exactly the same manner you mock. A curse upon you, and as Allah is the best of schemers, it will be so.
COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!
Which Madrassas? Do you even know anything about Islam?
Yes, I do.
I know that it is a belief system only slightly less retrograde than joodaism, saying basically the same things as the OT/Torah only embellished up to the 7th century, and oddly enough purporting to obey the same deity.
That being said, I repeat. You are attempting to conflate the actions and beliefs of an insignificant portion of the total population into some sort of indictment of the system as a whole. Yet you can cite no objective facts or statistics or facts to support your claims in any way, shape, or form.
So like the disingenuous dissembler that you are, you resort to hyperbole, arm-waving, and name-calling. As all you joos do whenever you are cornered.
You are a moron and an apologist for murder. May you suffer a fate dealt out by those you would defend in exactly the same manner you mock. A curse upon you, and as Allah is the best of schemers, it will be so.
Both the Hadith and Torah agree on the fate of you and your joos. See my tag line.
"By your sword you shall live, and your brother you shall serve. But when you become restive, you will cast his yoke from off your neck." Genesis 27:40
You are attempting to conflate the actions and beliefs of an insignificant portion of the total population into some sort of indictment of the system as a whole.
AGA - Islam is a major world religion .... it is estimated that there are about 2Billion followers.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
#479. To: mirage, AGAviator, sneaky pete, Liberator (#468)(Edited)
You are a moron and an apologist for murder.
No offense, mirage, but I think you are wrong about AGAviator. Admittedly I've come late to this thread because the title of the article put me off just as another article title about Jews did. However, based on my readings of the last 25-50 posts made by AGAviator, imo, he's only been defending Muslims from broad brush stroke prejudices that other posters like sneaky pete and Liberator have expressed on multiple occasions. AGAviator has tried add some balance some perspective to this thread that was sorely needed frankly. Furthermore, AGAviator has not defended violent actions committed by Muslim extremists, who represent a very small percentage of Muslims as a whole. Btw, extremists are not unique to the Islamic faith/Muslims - every religious faith/ ethnic group has extremists who advocate or commit acts of violence.
You are attempting to conflate the actions and beliefs of an insignificant portion of the total population into some sort of indictment of the system as a whole. Yet you can cite no objective facts or statistics or facts to support your claims in any way, shape, or form.
Exactly.
"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings
Conversion to Islam by African–Americans was encouraged early in the twentieth century as a form of separatism from white oppression. The Christianity espoused by the dominant white population was interpreted as part of the pattern of oppression, and awareness grew that many of the slaves who had been brought from West Africa had been of Muslim faith. A number of movements developed to bring the former slaves back to their suppressed ancestral faith.
Fisher, M. P. (2005). Living religions (6th ed.).
It's not my perspective. It's fact - recorded history.
This is why the ADL and other Jewish groups are so adamant and insistent about passing "Hate Speech" Laws as they want to make it illegal hate speech to bring up any of this historically accurate and well documented information (as well as preventing mention of the War Crimes ongoing in Israel). This is why the apologists for Israel and Zionism have such explosive reactions to being confronted with this information. For the duped it shakes the stable foundation around which they have oriented their view of the world. Their entire edifice is founded upon and supported by lies and they cannot, and are completely unwilling to examine it as it is too horrble for them to confront. As a former apologist, and a good strong one, for Israel myself I can say point blank that the gut wrenching I went through when I first learned all of this to be true was traumatic. The other reason for the censorship of "hate speech" laws is to prevent exposure of the ongoing ethnic cleansing in Palestine which is nothing more than a slow motion mass murder. Liars and murderers desperately dislike being exposed as liars and murderers. That is also why they seek to distract from the facts through the constant barrage of hate and propaganda leveled at Islam and Muslims. There are other reasons - such as their own irrational ethnic hatreds, but the main reason is to distract from their OWN crimes against humanity. It is a standard m.o. of the criminal to point at the crimes of others or attempt to transfer responsibility for their crimes to someone else. It is a cloud of lies aimed only at preventing a judgment upon the truth.
Most of the slaves brought here from Africa were of Muslim faith.
I think a statement with more truth to it would read:
Most of the slaves brought here from Africa were captured by and sold into slavery initially by many of the Muslim faith, placed on board ships many of which were owned and financed by Jews, and sold to plantations and other interested parties most of which were Christians.
As always you hold onto some insignificant and meaningless opinion as fact. The main methods of the slave trade from Africa imported into the western colonies [new world] were by the Portuguese exploiting localized Afican tribes, whom were at war with each other.
You are a fool a total idiot.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
The main methods of the slave trade from Africa imported into the western colonies [new world] were by the Portuguese exploiting localized Afican trib
There were English, Portugese, Spanish, and Dutch Jews all involved in the slave trade.
Not only that but Jews were quite involved with abducting Slavs from Eastern Europe and taking them south to the Moors.
"By your sword you shall live, and your brother you shall serve. But when you become restive, you will cast his yoke from off your neck." Genesis 27:40
Btw, extremists are not unique to the Islamic faith/Muslims - every religious faith/ ethnic group has extremists who advocate or commit acts of violence.
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i've said that at least 3 times on this thread and it's gone ignored.
Do you realize what Mel attempted to portray with her god-damned lie? She was saying [in effect] that Muslims practice slavery when in fact it was Christians.
That bitch needs some heavy slapping around.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
However, based on my readings of the last 25-50 posts made by AGAviator, imo, he's only been defending Muslims from broad brush stroke prejudices that other posters like sneaky pete and Liberator have expressed on multiple occasions.
I've been posting on the Internet for over 12 years and never once have I said that Islam is a superior belief system, or the Koran justifies the things the suicide bombers and the screamy Heebies say it does.
But as I've said already the Jews and the WOT supporters cannot discuss the subject at any length without resorting to hyperbole, name calling, and appeals to emotionalism because their position is unsupported by either facts or logic when you look at the big picture.
"By your sword you shall live, and your brother you shall serve. But when you become restive, you will cast his yoke from off your neck." Genesis 27:40
It's not my perspective. It's fact - recorded history.
Many does not mean most. Yet where is the evidence that African slaves brought teachings and practices from the Koran to the New World? That author is basing his theory on an unproven premise.
And don't forget also that most Caribbean Indian tribes were captured and enslaved by good Christians right here in the New World without an ounce of Muslim help.
PS - I wasn't discussing the slave tade. I was discussing the religion of the slaves brought here from [West] Africa and their forced conversion to Christianity and why they have been converting back to Islam.
Do you realize what Mel attempted to portray with her god-damned lie? She was saying [in effect] that Muslims practice slavery when in fact it was Christians.
Historically, both of them have.
"By your sword you shall live, and your brother you shall serve. But when you become restive, you will cast his yoke from off your neck." Genesis 27:40
What is your opinion of Israel using white phosphorous bombs on the Gaza populace?
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