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Title: Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View)
Source: FaithFreedomOrg
URL Source: http://faithfreedom.org/islam/does-islam-breed-violence
Published: Nov 14, 2009
Author: Amil Amani
Post Date: 2009-12-03 22:32:29 by Liberator
Keywords: Islam, Bloody, Muslim, Cult
Views: 59689
Comments: 650

There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us that the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do.

On the other hand are those who have been fed up with the numberless daily horrific acts that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam throughout the world. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed, on a daily basis, by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith.

Would someone, please, explain what motivated Nidal Hasan who had been, at tax payer’s expense, educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against a nation that gave him everything he had?

If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, why:

* had he repeatedly preached the ascendancy of Islam to the U.S. Constitution?

* had he publicly supported Islamic suicide bombing?

* had he proclaimed his highest loyalty to Islam?

* had he been in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam?

* did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack?

* did he keep screaming “Allah-o-Akbar” as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women?

Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be. Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslim’s holy book, the Quran, in many suras:

Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."

Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."

Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."

Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."

And the Quran is considered by Muslims as the word-for-word literal edicts of the Muslims’ god, Allah.

Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophet’s son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. Ali with the assistance of one or two of his thugs, beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, had a sword that had its own name—Zolfaghar. Ali’s portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shi’a’-lands. And this man, Ali, is revered by the Shi’a at the same level as Muhammad.

On the Sunni side, Muhammad’s co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. And to this day, a sword adorns the flag of the birthplace of the religion of peace, Saudi Arabia.

And Islam, by the nature of its very doctrine, appeals to man’s base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more:

Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."

In reality, Islam is like a deadly contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, this debilitating disease is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do.

Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult of violence.

The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as the normal part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time-to-time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit and quickly gets over it and does nothing to seriously address this affliction of humanity.

The recent dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be forgotten by the public before very long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by agents of death, Islamists. Only the families who lost their loved-ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries, in the main, won’t be able to put the episode behind them.

The mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity, ironically, in a man who was trained to help people with sanity was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam.

Islam is a mental retrovirus that has mutated into numerous varieties and degrees of severity, over the past 1400 years. Everyone born in a Muslim family, as well as those who convert to Islam, contract a particular mutation of the Islamic Virus. As is the case with all retroviruses, the Islamic Virus burrows deeply in the person and erupts, from time-to-time with potentially devastating consequences.

The Islamic Virus first divests the person of his most fundamental human attribute. It takes away his right to make decisions himself and absolves him, in return, of any responsibility for his actions rendered in blind obedience to it.

A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of Islam—Submission—everything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran .The Raison d'être for the Muslim is to be an unconditional submissive to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a “good” Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, he is indoctrinated to believe.

Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one another’s throat regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects’ dogma should rule.

For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth, fighting the non-Muslims and infighting.

Truth be told: Violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence.

Author's Bio:

Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution.

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#509. To: mel_living (#502)

I produced well-researched, scholary documentation of History - You produced foul language.

I hate to tell you this but you will need to learn this before you start your thesis, you gave a text book summary as a reference. That would have killed your thesis 30 years ago.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-05   15:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#510. To: wbales (#506)

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-05   15:59:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#511. To: wbales (#495)

What is your opinion of Israel using white phosphorous bombs on the Gaza populace?

Murder is murder, is it not?

COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!

mirage  posted on  2009-12-05   16:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#512. To: mininggold (#499)

So you want the authors refrences as well? No problem. Then you have to post your evidence that refutes what I have posted deal? I can hang out and tell people thy are wrong all day long, but without any evidence to show them they are wrong, my words would mean nothing. So cough up your evidence. I should remind you that one must be well learned in a subject in order to write a text book for use in University courses. The authors refrences:

Ahmed, Akbar, S., Islam Under Siege, Cambridge: Polity Press, 2003. Careful explanation of Islamic ideals and concerns in the context of contemporary violence in the name of Islam.

Ahmed, Akbar S., Discovering Islam: Making Sense of Muslim History and Society, London and New York: Routledge, revised edition, 2002. A well-known Pakistani diplomat and scholar teaching in the United States offers keen insights into the spirituality and history of modern Muslim cultures.

Ali, Maulana Muhammad, The Religion of Islam, sixth edition, Columbus, Ohio: Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha’at Islam, 1994. A classic reference explaining all aspects of Muslim belief and practice, with extensive scriptural quotations. Armstrong, Karen, The Battle for God, New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 2000. A monumental study of the development of fundamentalism in the United States, Israel, and Egypt in response to modernity.

Dessouki, Ali E. Hillal, ed., Islamic Resurgence in the Arab World, New York: Praeger Publishers, 1982. A scholarly study of the contemporary Islamic resurgence in specific Arab nations.

Esack, Farid, Qur’an, Liberation and Pluralism: An Islamic Perspective of Interreligious Solidarity against Oppression, Oxford: Oneworld Publications, 1997. A first-person account of the struggle for justice in South Africa from the point of view of a Muslim scholar and activist, exploring Qur’anic principles that lead to inter-religious fraternity. Esposito, John L., The Islamic Threat: Myth or Reality?, third edition, New York: Oxford University Press, 1999. An insighful survey of militant Islamic movements around the world.

Esposito, John L., Islam: The Straight Path, New York, Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1988. A scholarly, clear introduction to historical and contemporary Islam.

Hefner, Robert W. and Patricia Horvatich, eds., Islam in an Era of Nation- states: Politics and Religious Renewal in Muslim Southeast Asia, Honolulu: University of Hawaii Press, 1997. Detailed analyses of Muslim reformist movements in Southeast Asia with reference to modern governmental structures.

The Holy Qur’an. Although the Qur’an is considered untranslatable, numerous translations from the Arabic have been attempted. Many Muslims’ favorite English translation is by Abdullah Yusuf Ali (Durban, South Africa: Islamic Propagation Center International, 1946). The King Fahd Holy Qur’an Printing Complex in Medina has published a very helpful revision based on Yusuf Ali’s translation, with extensive thematic index. Thomas Ballantine Irving (Al-Hajj Ta’lim’Ali) has prepared “The First American Version” of the Qur’an (translation and commentary, Brattleboro, Vermont: Amana Books, © 1985).

Lings, Martin, Muhammad, London: George Allen & Unwin, and Islamic Text Society, 1983. A highly regarded biography of the Prophet. McCloud, Aminah Beverly, African American Islam, New York and London: Routledge, 1995. An accessible inside view of contemporary African–American Muslim communities and issues they face in a contrasting cultural context. Nasr, Seyyed Hossein, Ideals and Realities of Islam, second edition, London: Unwin Hyman Ltd., 1985. Thoughtful presentation of both esoteric and exoteric features of Islam.

Nasr, Seyyed Hossein, ed., Islamic Spirituality I: Foundations, New York: Crossroad Publishing Company, 1987 and London: SCM Press, 1989. Excellent chapters on key features of Muslim spirituality, from fasting to angels, with sections on Sunnism, Shi’ism, and Sufism.

Nasr, Seyyed Hossein, Traditional Islam in the Modern World, London and New York: Kegan Paul International, 1990. Religiously sensitive discussions of varied topics in attempts to bring forth traditional Muslim values within contemporary social settings. Nasr, Seyyed Hossein, Dabashi, Hamid, and Nasr, Seyyed Vali Reza, Shi’ism: Doctrines, Thought, and Spirituality, Albany, New York: State University of New York Press, 1988. To balance the predominant media attention to Shi’ite politics, a set of thoughtful essays on aspects of Shi’ite spirituality.

Paige, Glenn D., Satha-Anand, Chaiwats, and Gilliatt, Sarah, Islam and Nonviolence, Honolulu: University of Hawaii, Center for Global Nonviolence Planning Project, 1993. Strong essays on theories and practice of non-violence stemming from Muslim values.

Pinault, David, The Shiites: Ritual and Popular Piety in a Muslim Community, New York: St. Martin’s Press, 1992. Sensitive discussions of Shi’ite interpretations of Muslim history and how these inform communal life and action.

Rashid, Ahmed, Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia, New Haven: Yale University Press, 2000. A Pakistani journalist chronicles the Taliban’s rise to power, including global politics and economics as well as religion. Schimmel, Annemarie, And Muhammad is His Messenger: The Veneration of the Prophet in Islamic Piety, Chapel Hill, North Carolina: University of North Carolina Press, 1985. Extensive exploration of Muslims’ love for the Prophet.

Schimmel, Annemarie, Mystical Dimensions of Islam, Chapel Hill, North Carolina: University of North Carolina Press, 1975. A classic survey of Sufi history, teachings, and saints. Schuon, Frithjof, Understanding Islam, London: George Allen & Unwin, 1963. Profound and lyrical observations about the way of Islam.

Stowasser, Barbara Freyer, The Islamic Impulse, Washington, D.C.: Center for Contemporary Arab Studies, Georgetown University, 1987. Sensitive articles exploring the meanings of Islamist movements.

Wadud, Amina, Qur’an and Woman, New York/Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1999. Probing hermeneutic analysis of the Qur’an, revealing its principles of social justice, including gender equality.

Webb, Gisela, Windows of Faith: Muslim Women Scholar-Activists in North America, Syracuse, New York: Syracuse University Press, 2000. Articles revealing the depth of feminist scholarship within Islam, particularly with reference to the ideal of social justice as seen from the point of view of women of faith.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#513. To: AGAviator (#490)

But as I've said already the Jews and the WOT supporters cannot discuss the subject at any length without resorting to hyperbole, name calling, and appeals to emotionalism because their position is unsupported by either facts or logic when you look at the big picture.

It is so very predictable.

A closely related discussion to this thread topic, "Islam breeds violence", would be "Why do they hate us?" where the general answers fall into two camps:

1) they hate us because of our freedoms, way of life, elections, religion and so forth, and;

2) we're bank rolling Israel and we seem to be perpetually OVER THERE f-ing with them in some onerous manner--our middle east foreign policy.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-05   16:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#514. To: buckeroo (#504)

There's so much beauty in your posts. Have you found the refuting evidence yet or have you already had too much to drink to produce anything more than childish rants?

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#515. To: AGAviator (#474)

You are attempting to conflate the actions and beliefs of an insignificant portion of the total population into some sort of indictment of the system as a whole. Yet you can cite no objective facts or statistics or facts to support your claims in any way, shape, or form.

You just lost.

If there are a billion or two Muslims and 10-25% follow a school (Wahabbiism) that advocates violence, then that "insignificant portion" is about the population of the United States.

200 or 300 million to you is "insignificant" and yet you whine about Israel and the Joos all the time who number 1/10 of that, or about 30 million total.

You are a complete blithering idiot who lies when he has lost.

You lose, buddy. You are so lost.

COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!

mirage  posted on  2009-12-05   16:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#516. To: AGAviator, buckeroo (#494)

Do you realize what Mel attempted to portray with her god-damned lie? She was saying [in effect] that Muslims practice slavery when in fact it was Christians.

Historically, both of them have.

And those who practiced slavery sought to pervert their own religion's holy works to justify the unjustifiable.

Of course one thing Jews do not wish to confront is their complicity in the past and ongoing slave trade. Israel is the locus of the "White Slave" Trade in the Middle East as of today, and it is not a small trade.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-05   16:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#517. To: mel_living (#514)

There's so much beauty in your posts.

FUCK YOU, you lying bitch

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-05   16:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#518. To: wbales (#513)

1) they hate us because of our freedoms, way of life, elections, religion and so forth, and;

If and when those privileges negate my own property or other natural rights Id tend to get a bit pissy too. Overthrow my duly elected parliament will you, well take this (slips into footage from 1974 Hawaiian surf tournament...)

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-05   16:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#519. To: mininggold (#508)

In the 70's is when oil-rich nations found that by banding together they could control the price and availability of oil.

Who would be the least interested in assimilating?

Illegals from Mexico. ;-)

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#520. To: mel_living (#502)

I produced well-researched, scholary documentation of History - You produced foul language.

Funny how things work out isn't it? Can I interest you in some new doors or windows?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-05   16:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#521. To: mel_living (#512)

You've read them all? I'm impressed.

The slavers kept logs of everything including "passengers", where and from who they were obtained and from what tribe (if known). Just some of those would suffice.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-05   16:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#522. To: christine (#488)

i've said that at least 3 times on this thread and it's gone ignored.

It's bad when the board owner's getting steamrolled.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-12-05   16:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: mininggold (#509)

I quoted from the text - used the text as a reference - as is expected of the students in the class - I did not ue a summary. A quote and a summary are two diffeent things but both are appropriate for required formatting.

This is a forum, not a classroom. Hadthis bee a classroom, a few postes on this thread would have been suspended.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#524. To: mel_living (#519)

Who would be the least interested in assimilating? Illegals from Mexico. ;-)

Mexicans won't marry into gringo families and take on the culture? Come now.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-05   16:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#525. To: Dakmar (#520)

Can I interest you in some new doors or windows?

I only need one door. My dog at through it.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#526. To: mininggold (#524)

There's nothing wrong with a little humor.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#527. To: mel_living (#523) (Edited)

To: mininggold I quoted from the text - used the text as a reference - as is expected of the students in the class - I did not ue a summary. A quote and a summary are two diffeent things but both are appropriate for required formatting.

As long as you know the difference... that what I was trying to get at. So many texts are author biased, I like to see the documents they base their theories on and.... remember it's only theory in most cases..... subject to more investigation and new discoveries.

I gotta go, I hope my new bull is coming today!

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-05   16:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#528. To: mel_living (#525) (Edited)

Doesn't Anubis bring a pound of glazers putty for every slipper he chews?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-05   16:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#529. To: mirage (#515)

If there are a billion or two Muslims and 10-25% follow a school (Wahabbiism) that advocates violence,

I bet they have long memories, as well.

Invading and butchering two of their countries was, then, probably a bad idea.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-05   16:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#530. To: mininggold (#521) (Edited)

Nevermind.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#531. To: buckeroo (#517)

You're right. Your posts are as ugly as you are.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#532. To: Dakmar (#528)

Anubis?

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#533. To: mirage (#511) (Edited)

What is your opinion of Israel using white phosphorous bombs on the Gaza populace?

Murder is murder, is it not?

And using my tax money to fund the disproportionate carnage for one side implicates, most unfortunately, me.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-05   16:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#534. To: mel_living (#532)

Anubis?

Infidel!

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-05   16:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#535. To: buckeroo (#517)

Easy there, buck. If you throw a rod while foaming at the mouth like that, it doesn't count as another of mel's "attempts to kill you."

Sometimes the voices in your head are full of shit too. Jus' sayin.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-12-05   16:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#536. To: mel_living (#531)

Your posts are as ugly as you are.

You are a god-damned liar. Everything you say as opinion is worthless. Why do you think this forum is about spreading your Christian views? Are you looking for converts? No man would swallow much less swallow your god-damned BS.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-05   16:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#537. To: Original_Intent (#467)

It is a standard m.o. of the criminal to point at the crimes of others or attempt to transfer responsibility for their crimes to someone else. It is a cloud of lies aimed only at preventing a judgment upon the truth.

Have you ever read the wiki entry for Psychopathy? It describes the hardcore Zionist, or any other proponent of predatory politics, to a tee.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Psychopathy is a personality disorder whose hallmark is a lack of empathy. Robert Hare, a researcher in the field describes psychopaths as "intraspecies predators who use charm, manipulation, intimidation, sex and violence to control others and to satisfy their own selfish needs. Lacking in conscience and empathy, they take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without guilt or remorse". "What is missing, in other words, are the very qualities that allow a human being to live in social harmony."

Psychopaths are glib and superficially charming, and many psychopaths are excellent mimics of normal human emotion; some psychopaths can blend in, undetected, in a variety of surroundings, including corporate environments. There is neither a cure nor any effective treatment for psychopathy; there are no medications or other techniques which can instill empathy, and psychopaths who undergo traditional talk therapy only become more adept at manipulating others. The consensus among researchers is that psychopathy stems from a specific neurological disorder which is biological in origin and present from birth. It is estimated that one percent of the general population are psychopaths.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-12-05   16:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#538. To: Samuel Gray (#535)

Back off. Melinda is a whore. She has corrupted many a fine forum in the past. And she is here today to do the same.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-05   16:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#539. To: bluegrass (#537)

use charm, manipulation...(and) sex to satisfy their own selfish needs. Lacking in conscience and empathy, they take what they want and do as they please, ...without guilt or remorse".

glib and superficially charming, and many ... are excellent mimics of normal human emotion;

Sounds like women I've met online and subsequently dated in real life...

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-12-05   16:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#540. To: buckeroo (#538)

It's just the internet, buck. This world disappears when you click the "X" in the upper right corner. If it doesn't, you're taking it too seriously.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-12-05   16:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#541. To: Samuel Gray (#539)


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-05   16:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#542. To: mel_living (#531)

"Your posts are as ugly as you are."

I don't know who started it on this thread, but you have a long history of starting shit on other threads. Don't be surprised if it continues after you're tired of it.

Big Meanie  posted on  2009-12-05   16:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#543. To: Dakmar (#534)

The Egyption God?

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#544. To: buckeroo (#536)

Why do you think this forum is about spreading your Christian views?

Please point to one post I made on this thread that even attempts to spread Christian views. Thank you.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#545. To: mel_living (#543)

The Egyption God?

I don't like being told what I can believe in or worship based upon my national ancestry, spelled correctly or otherwise.

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-05   16:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#546. To: Big Meanie (#542)

You need to start from the beginning of the conversations instead of jumping in the middle of them.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#547. To: Dakmar (#545)

I don't like being told what I can believe in or worship based upon my national ancestry, spelled correctly or otherwise.

OK then. No one does. And no one should.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-05   16:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#548. To: Samuel Gray (#540)

It's just the internet, buck.

Your over-simplification of opinions is worthy of comment. Melinda and I goe back years as she chased the destruction of Chris Simcox. She was wrong. I was right.

She follows me and diva around fucking with us. You could be next on her stalker list.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-05   16:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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