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Title: Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View)
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URL Source: http://faithfreedom.org/islam/does-islam-breed-violence
Published: Nov 14, 2009
Author: Amil Amani
Post Date: 2009-12-03 22:32:29 by Liberator
Keywords: Islam, Bloody, Muslim, Cult
Views: 59829
Comments: 650
There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us that the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do. On the other hand are those who have been fed up with the numberless daily horrific acts that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam throughout the world. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed, on a daily basis, by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith. Would someone, please, explain what motivated Nidal Hasan who had been, at tax payer’s expense, educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against a nation that gave him everything he had? If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, why: * had he repeatedly preached the ascendancy of Islam to the U.S. Constitution? * had he publicly supported Islamic suicide bombing? * had he proclaimed his highest loyalty to Islam? * had he been in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam? * did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack? * did he keep screaming “Allah-o-Akbar” as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women? Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be. Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslim’s holy book, the Quran, in many suras: Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed." Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)." Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding." Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place." Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam." And the Quran is considered by Muslims as the word-for-word literal edicts of the Muslims’ god, Allah. Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophet’s son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. Ali with the assistance of one or two of his thugs, beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, had a sword that had its own name—Zolfaghar. Ali’s portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shi’a’-lands. And this man, Ali, is revered by the Shi’a at the same level as Muhammad. On the Sunni side, Muhammad’s co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. And to this day, a sword adorns the flag of the birthplace of the religion of peace, Saudi Arabia. And Islam, by the nature of its very doctrine, appeals to man’s base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more: Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure." In reality, Islam is like a deadly contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, this debilitating disease is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do. Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult of violence. The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as the normal part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time-to-time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit and quickly gets over it and does nothing to seriously address this affliction of humanity. The recent dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be forgotten by the public before very long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by agents of death, Islamists. Only the families who lost their loved-ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries, in the main, won’t be able to put the episode behind them. The mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity, ironically, in a man who was trained to help people with sanity was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam. Islam is a mental retrovirus that has mutated into numerous varieties and degrees of severity, over the past 1400 years. Everyone born in a Muslim family, as well as those who convert to Islam, contract a particular mutation of the Islamic Virus. As is the case with all retroviruses, the Islamic Virus burrows deeply in the person and erupts, from time-to-time with potentially devastating consequences. The Islamic Virus first divests the person of his most fundamental human attribute. It takes away his right to make decisions himself and absolves him, in return, of any responsibility for his actions rendered in blind obedience to it. A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of Islam—Submission—everything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran .The Raison d'être for the Muslim is to be an unconditional submissive to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a “good” Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, he is indoctrinated to believe. Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one another’s throat regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects’ dogma should rule. For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth, fighting the non-Muslims and infighting. Truth be told: Violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence. Author's Bio: Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution.
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#547. To: Dakmar (#545)
OK then. No one does. And no one should.
Your over-simplification of opinions is worthy of comment. Melinda and I goe back years as she chased the destruction of Chris Simcox. She was wrong. I was right. She follows me and diva around fucking with us. You could be next on her stalker list.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
I thought those are called cougars?
Please source those 10-25% stats about Muslims advocating violence. Thank you. If you look at numbers of Iraqi Muslim deaths alone - for example - that our government, which heads a majority Christian nation, has caused in a nation that had zero to do with 9/11 or for that matter any other violent events within our sovereign nation, I think you'll agree that OUR GOVERNMENT'S VIOLENT ACTIONS [in just the past 5 years] are far more shameful/unconscionable than any rhetoric, words supposedly espoused in Muslim religious schools. mirage, I have always thought you were a reasonable, rational poster but what you are writing on this thread makes me have second thoughts about my initial impression of you.
Sounds right. Predatory, leave scratch and bite marks all over...never mind.
Good luck with the bull.
I've met some that have graduated to jaguar.
Again, it's the internet. You and DBR leave your goats tied out in the open where it's easy to go get them and turn them loose, with much hilarity ensuing. Been there, done that. That having been said, if you allow anyone to step into "meatspace" and take online fuckery into 3-D world (unless all the players are amenable to mutual fuckery, in which case, it can be great fun), that's more your fault than anyone else's for not making a strong declarative 'statement' that such behavior will not be tolerated.
Kind of like that nice boy next door - Ted Bundy, or on a larger scale a Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Bush, or Obama. Obama strikes as a particularly good representative of "the clan". As was Bill Clinton. Both can lie with charm and grace all the while patting you on the back to find the best place to put the knife. Bush wasn't as convincing because he is a complete imbecile.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Yup. Some days you eat, some days you get eaten. Just have to stay outta their habitats. They're attracted to platinum cards and four star+ hotels.
Always, always, if at all possible, go to the source text. It is the way of the scholar and avoids someone else's misinterpretation, whether willful or not, of what the original text said. If you would read Shakespeare read Shakespeare not someone else's commentary on Shakespeare (I picked a neutral example but it holds true for any original text).
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Bush didn't take a teleprompter with him every place he went like Big O reportedly does. Of the 3 men you name, I'd say Billy Jeff is the only one who deserves credit for spontaneous charm/cerebral strengths. I still remember a townhall meeting that Obama [ sans teleprompter] appeared at wherein he proposed his theory that tires and how they were inflated could be an important factor re: America attaining independence from fossil fuels. It was hilarious and ranked right up there with any Bushism I've read. And what's more pathetic about Obama's dimwitedness is that he is so full of himself he does not realize that he's a dope. Regarding his tire inflation theory, for example, Obie prattled on and on about it - not just a simple slip of the tongue - he really believed his nonsense was earth shattering brilliant.
You are still fucking around?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
I'll give Libby $14 in ArtsAndLeisureCzar tokens for an original book report on The Israel Lobby
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Like I said, "I don't know who started it on this thread, but you have a long history of starting shit on other threads." And you shouldn't be surprised if it doesn't stop just because you're tired of it.
It was good cover for him, eh? And let's not forget Trotsky in the list. If you ever want to burn some time: Political Ponerology: A Science on The Nature of Evil adjusted for Political Purposes
I'm safe from those ones, then.
Bush didn't take a teleprompter with him every place he went like Big O reportedly does. Of the 3 men you name, I'd say Billy Jeff is the only one who deserves credit for spontaneous charm/cerebral strengths. Yes, Bubba the Hut was a very good and charming psychopath. He still has apologists even now. And they excoriate Bush for his wars but always conveniently forget that Bubba had his own "war based on lies" in Kosovo. Which, as with Pipelinestan, was about Heroin and Mineral Wealth (the Trepka mining complex has an estimated recoverable mineral wealth of roughly 3 TRILLION dollars, and the main Heroin trade route in Europe is through Kosovo which the KLA was heavily involved in). Milosevic pissed off the Western Bankster Elite by giving the contract for its operation to a Greek company. Bad, bad, Milosevic.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
That having been said, if you
allow anyone to step into "meatspace" and take online f**kery into 3-D world
(unless all the players are amenable to mutual f**kery, in which case, it can
be great fun), that's more your fault than anyone else's for not making a
strong declarative 'statement' that such behavior will not be tolerated.
Again, you don't understand the Internet as you are not
stalked. [comment deleted by mod]
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Good ol' Leon. Vying with Stalin for Alpha Psychopath in the USSR and lost. A bullet in the head was entirely too kind.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Yep, MacDonald sure took a lot of time and energy to cobble together a book of lies. Some material never passes the blood brain barrier.
That's why I'm glad he got an icepick to the brain instead. ; ) If roughly one percent of the population are psychopathic, that means that there about sixty million+ psychopaths roaming around. I wonder if they recognize each other.
buck, i asked you to stop the ongoing personal war with mel on this board. i don't care what's gone on at other forums between you. it doesn't belong here. it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread and is just disruption. i don't want to have to take the time to delete your posts so, please, have some respect for that.
Why are you taking the position of supporting Melinda? Obviously, you have thrown the gauntlet ... and your admonishment means nothing to me with you abetting the REAL enemy.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Exactly. Your posts have always been excellent. That's why I read books BEFORE I read the reviews.
Do you want to wait in the car?
My statement to you is in reference to ALL the threads you claim my history in. Start from the beginning and not the middle.
you'vee missed my point. i'm not taking any sides. i don't care. it's not my concern. i don't want it on 4um.
Can't right now. I have to help the old lady bring home a bleeping Christmas tree. Why don't you dare me to document how you've started shit in the past, then accused someone else of starting it?
OK
Do whatever you feel like doing. I really don't care. Good luck with the tree. I gotta take the kids to the Christmas parade in a little while. I got one kid in it this year. It's gonna be fun.
Have a good time, eh?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Yeah - We went to the tree lighting ceremony last night. It was pretty cool. The parade will be even better - It's not bad for a small town.
Last night? That's history, I was expecting narrative! :)
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. you are fucking with me. BACK-OFF.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Wave your NYC titties at her, girl, I'm sure someone will take notice.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. uh..whose property is this? you need a time out.
Thank you for the link. That is not a one setting read. I'll have to go back to it when I have more time. Although to simplify the issue in a broad stroke about 2 1/2% of the population falls into the psychopathic/anti-social personality category and of those only a small handful are really dangerous. Where it gets really dangerous is when these types of twisted personalities achieve positions of power as they have in our current political structure. That they go unrecognized for what they are compounds the problem. Most people are not psychopaths and that type of thinking is so foreign to them that most just don't get it. They assume, wrongly that everyone else reacts as they do - generally operating on the greatest good for the greatest number. Of course they are sadly wrong. That wrongness coupled with the inability to recognize the problem could get us all killed. These anti-social psychopaths are the types who could and would pull the nuclear trigger without remorse. This is also why the West is in such a dire predicament, as these types are not amenable to reason (they are quite mad - all outward appearances to the contrary) and operate off of a perverse illogic that is deadly dangerous to all. Directly in their sphere of influence they affect maybe another 17 or 18 percent and send them off the rails as well - although not quite to the same extent as the psycho in the center of it all. The psychopath is so destructive, and out of touch with reality, the fact that his solution kills everybody does not enter into his/her calculations. Psychopaths are also very bad at predicting the outcome of their actions.
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
Oops. My bad you are quite right. Mexico City as I recall. At least I remembered the right body part. I should have checked before I wrote but got lazy. That's what I get for not double checking my memory. I think he should have gotten a stiletto in the brain stem ["Good Fellas" if I recall - correctly this time. ;)]
"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
More like a "dry-out". "An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France
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#548. To: Samuel Gray (#540)
It's just the internet, buck.
#549. To: Samuel Gray (#539)
#550. To: mirage, AGAviator (#515)
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If there are a billion or two Muslims and 10-25% follow a school (Wahabbiism) that advocates violence, then that "insignificant portion" is about the population of the United States.
#551. To: bluegrass (#549)
cougars?
#552. To: mininggold (#527)
#553. To: Samuel Gray (#551)
#554. To: buckeroo (#548)
#555. To: bluegrass (#537)
Psychopaths are glib and superficially charming, and many psychopaths are excellent mimics of normal human emotion; some psychopaths can blend in, undetected, in a variety of surroundings, including corporate environments.
#556. To: bluegrass (#553)
jaguar
#557. To: mininggold, mel_living, all (#527)
As long as you know the difference... that what I was trying to get at. So many texts are author biased, I like to see the documents they base their theories on and.... remember it's only theory in most cases..... subject to more investigation and new discoveries.
#558. To: Original_Intent (#555)
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Bush wasn't as convincing because he is a complete imbecile.
#559. To: mel_living (#552)
Good luck with the bull.
#560. To: Jethro Tull, Liberator, Esso (#183)
I'd be thrilled if all the Muslims left this country. Likewise, if AIPAC and the Tribe bolted we'd be better off. Liberator, read the synopsis of the material Mearsheimer and Walt put together. Then read the chapter on immigration Kevin MacDonald put together in his "The Culture of Critique." I'm far, far from an intellectual, but this material is a common sense road map to the truth.
#561. To: mel_living (#546)
"You need to start from the beginning of the conversations instead of jumping in the middle of them."
#562. To: Original_Intent (#555)
Bush wasn't as convincing because he is a complete imbecile.
#563. To: Samuel Gray (#556)
They're attracted to platinum cards and four star+ hotels.
#564. To: scrapper2 (#558)
Bush wasn't as convincing because he is a complete imbecile.
#565. To: Samuel Gray, mel_ling (#554)
Again, it's the internet. You and DBR leave your goats tied out
in the open where it's easy to go get them and turn them loose, with much
hilarity ensuing. Been there, done that.
#566. To: bluegrass (#562)
And let's not forget Trotsky in the list.
#567. To: Dakmar (#560)
Kevin MacDonald
#568. To: Original_Intent (#566)
A bullet in the head was entirely too kind.
#569. To: buckeroo (#565)
#570. To: christine (#569)
#571. To: Original_Intent (#557)
If you would read Shakespeare read Shakespeare not someone else's commentary on Shakespeare (I picked a neutral example but it holds true for any original text).
#572. To: buckeroo (#570)
#573. To: Big Meanie (#561)
#574. To: buckeroo (#570)
#575. To: mel_living (#573)
#576. To: christine (#574)
" i don't want it on 4um."
#577. To: Big Meanie (#575)
#578. To: mel_living (#577)
I gotta take the kids to the Christmas parade in a little while.
#579. To: Dakmar (#578)
#580. To: mel_living (#579)
#581. To: christine (#574)
you'vee missed my point. i'm not taking any sides. i don't care. it's not my concern. i don't want it on 4um.
#582. To: buckeroo (#581)
you are fucking with me. BACK-OFF.
#583. To: buckeroo (#581)
#584. To: bluegrass (#562)
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#585. To: bluegrass (#568)
That's why I'm glad he got an icepick to the brain instead. ; )
#586. To: christine, buckeroo (#583)
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