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Title: Vick wishes he could have dogs again
Source: USA Today
URL Source: http://content.usatoday.com/communi ... hes-he-could-have-dogs-again/1
Published: Dec 4, 2009
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2009-12-04 01:39:42 by Prefrontal Vortex
Keywords: None
Views: 127
Comments: 15

Vick wishes he could have dogs again

Animal lovers, would you want Michael Vick to have dogs again? Tuesday he told Newark, N.J., school kids he wished he could.

"I wish I could have a dog right now more than anything in the world," Vick said while acknowledging that his judge has banned him from owning dogs. "My goal now is to help more animals than I hurt and help turn a negative situation into a positive."

Raising and training pit bulls on his rural Virginia home got Vick booted out of the NFL for two years straight, landing him in the federal pen at Leavenworth.

His New Jersey appearance speaking against dogfighting was about the sixth he's made with the Humane Society of the United States since his release from prison and house arrest back in July, according to this story on NBCNewYork.com. And there will be more.

"He's said he will do this for many years," said Humane Society President Wayne Pacelle.

Pacelle said Vick's appearances are voluntary, not part of any parole.

"I should have known better," Vick admitted to a couple of hundred kids at the Boys and Girls Clubs of Newark.

He said he's hopeful one day he'll have a dog again. "I don't know when that day is going to come. It's up to my judge at his discretion," he said.

What would you advise a judge to do?

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#1. To: All (#0)

Vick might not get a dog just yet, but it looks like he'll get his bonus back from the Falcons.

Reggie White v. National Football League: The Vick Decision

Appeal from the United States District Court for the District of Minnesota

Submitted: March 12, 2009

Filed: November 10, 2009

(*blah blah blah*)

Affording the district court a measure of deference as the court that entered the consent decree and has overseen each of the subsequent amendments, we conclude that it properly rejected the League's argument that Vick's roster bonuses were signing bonus allocations subject to the years-performed test. Accordingly, the district court did not err in determining that the bonuses were earned when Vick met the roster provisions in his contract, and thus not subject to forfeiture. The judgment is affirmed.

Sounds like the right decision to me.

Avoiding foreign entanglements is the best domestic policy.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-12-04   3:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#0)

What would you advise a judge to do?

Deport this undesirable?

TooConservative  posted on  2009-12-04   5:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#0) (Edited)

What would you advise a judge to do?

I'd advise the judge to laugh heartily in Vick's face and fine and jail Vick for 30 days for contempt of court for presenting such an outrageous request and wasting the court's time.

I would not trust Vick to be near man's best friend even if Vick agreed to be chained to a spike in the dog's presence. Vick has a black heart and more than a few screws missing in his brain.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-12-04   13:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#0)

What would you advise a judge to do?

Not no, but HELL NO! Certainly not Pits. Maybe in ten years or twenty a Corgi, or a Wiener Dog. No breed larger than 20 pounds.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-04   13:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2 (#3)

Vick has a black heart

I'm not so sure about that, at least not in the sense that it is usually meant.

Anecdotally, many in the black underclass -- and some of their spokesman, when caught in a crime and listened to carefully -- seem to me not to feel the rules of morality as internal constraints. That is, they are not so much immoral, as amoral, and therefore this is less of a sin than it would be for a typical pet-owner. A typical pet-owner who did this would be a much more degraded person, generally.

None of that matters to the dog though.

Avoiding foreign entanglements is the best domestic policy.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-12-04   13:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#0)

What would you advise a judge to do?

The Chinese eat dogs, no one is putting then in jail for it. People really need to leave others alone that are not hurting anyone. Dogs are not people!

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-04   21:20:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#2)

Deport this undesirable?

Deport an America?

Why even post on a "Freedom" forum?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-04   21:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: RickyJ (#7)

Tongue-in-cheek.

It's virtually impossible to sever citizenship in modern times. Our gooberment will never release you from its clutches, even more so for someone with high assets like Vick.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-12-05   8:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#8)

Michale Vick did nothing wrong. If you can kill a human being in the womb. Then giving a dog a fighting chance doesn't amount to squat.

Dog fighting should be legal. Constitutionally speaking it actually is lawful.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-12-05   9:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#5)

Anecdotally, many in the black underclass -- and some of their spokesman, when caught in a crime and listened to carefully -- seem to me not to feel the rules of morality as internal constraints. That is, they are not so much immoral, as amoral, and therefore this is less of a sin than it would be for a typical pet-owner. A typical pet-owner who did this would be a much more degraded person, generally.

None of that matters to the dog though.

interesting analysis...and you're so right. none of that matters to the dog(s) which suffered terrible abuse.

christine  posted on  2009-12-05   11:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Dog fighting should be legal. Constitutionally speaking it actually is lawful.

Obviously, you really don't grasp the Constitution and BoR.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-12-05   12:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Dog fighting should be legal. Constitutionally speaking it actually is lawful.

It is really sick to train a dog to fight and kill another dog for entertainment and betting purposes only. However many people have got no jail time for killing someone in cold blood. So Vick, while really screwed up in the head to do stuff like that, should not have had to go to jail for it.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-06   4:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#11)

Show me in the constitution some animal protections. Show me.

Animals are property with no rights.

I'm not into the sport and it is kind of cruel. But property is property.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-12-06   11:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

States have all the authority they need to regulate property including animals.

TooConservative  posted on  2009-12-06   14:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#14)

Maybe so. I just don't get to worked up about dogs when humans are being slaughtered by the millions and no one is being punished for that.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-12-07   8:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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