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Title: Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit
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URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/palin-questioning-obama/
Published: Dec 5, 2009
Author: Raw Story
Post Date: 2009-12-05 14:21:59 by wudidiz
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Views: 1495
Comments: 183

Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit

By Raw Story
Friday, December 4th, 2009 -- 8:32 am

Update at bottom: Palin backtracks -- partly -- in Facebook posting

In a radio appearance Thursday, former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said questions about President Obama's birth certificate -- a spurious attempt to argue that he's not a US citizen and thus ineligible for President -- are fair game for debate.

Transcript and video follows.

HUMPHRIES: Sarah Palin here on the Rusty Humphries Show. One of the questions Jason asks is would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?

PALIN: I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue because I think there are enough members of the electorate that still want answers.

HUMPHRIES: Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?

PALIN: I think it’s a fair question just like I think past associations and past voting records. All of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you too, I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.

HUMPHRIES: I mean, truly if your past is fair game and your kids are fair game, certainly Obama’s past should be. I mean, we want to treat men and women equally, right?

PALIN: Hey, you know, that’s a great point. And that weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn’t my real son, and a lot of people that went "Well, you need to produce his birth certificate, you need to prove that he’s your kid," which we have done, but yeah, so maybe we can reverse that, and use the same [inaudible] thinking on the other one.

UPDATE

Following her radio interview comments about Obama's birth certificate, Sarah Palin backtracked -- partly -- in a posting to her Facebook page late Wednesday night.

"At no point ... have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States," Palin wrote in a posting she titled "Stupid conspiracies."

The full statement reads:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

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#81. To: your_neighbor (#78)

get this "words thing" so right without a bunch of East coast Jewish Harvard educated cultural dumpster diving sewer tramps telling her how to do it?

What makes you think that she is doing anything without a bunch of East coast Jewish Harvard educated cultural dumpser diving sewer tramps telling her how to do it?

She's doing it just as Edward Bernays (Jewish, nephew of Freud) said to do to sway public opinion and master perception management. Who do you think runs the best PR in this nation? Or do you think Saint Sarah is handling the PR campaign for her image and book tour on her own? lol

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   1:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: abraxas (#77)

Notice the complete omission of substance regarding her position, a mantra is repeated over and over with no logic or reasoning or insight....and this stance is as firm today as it was when she was campaiging with McCain.

"We cannot second guess the steps that Israel has to take to defend itself."

Why not?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-06   1:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: your_neighbor, abraxas (#78)

National Review Criticism of Palin

When Palin first emerged as John McCain’s running mate, I confess I was delighted. She was the antithesis and nemesis of the hirsute, Birkenstock-wearing sisterhood — a refreshing feminist of a different order who personified the modern successful working mother.

Palin didn’t make a mess cracking the glass ceiling. She simply glided through it.

It was fun while it lasted.

Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I’ve been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I’ve also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there’s not much content there . Here’s but one example of many from her interview with Hannity: “Well, there is a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we’re talking about today. And that’s something that John McCain, too, his track record, proving that he can work both sides of the aisle, he can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this.”

When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama’s numbers, Palin blustered wordily: “I’m not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who’s more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who’s actually done it?”

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

What to do?

McCain can’t repudiate his choice for running mate. He not only risks the wrath of the GOP’s unforgiving base, but he invites others to second-guess his executive decision-making ability. Barack Obama faces the same problem with Biden.

Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.

— Kathleen Parker is a nationally syndicated columnist.

© 2008, Washington Post Writers Group

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-06   1:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: abraxas (#81)

She's doing it just as Edward Bernays (Jewish, nephew of Freud) said to do to sway public opinion and master perception management.

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"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-06   1:45:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: your_neighbor (#80) (Edited)

"Substance" on Israel, give us a break - who dares to speak substance on Israel - speaking substance on Israel means you must fall on your political sword. Sarah is not that dumb (along with 100% of the world's Western politicians).

Bovine Excrement!!

This nation is so conditioned to the two party fraud they refuse to listen to a candidate who actually speaks with any substance on the topic.

Notice how Nader is being asked to not run? Notice how he actually speaks to the issue with knowledge, intellect and logic? Nader wasn't my choice, but he sure as hell offered substance on this issue. Blows your 100% all to pieces.

Sarah Palin simly has no substance to offer. If she refuses to speak with any substance on an issue simply to save herself from falling on a political sword, then she sure as hell isn't the image that she is selling to the plain folks, is she?

I'm not a Nader supporter, but I admire his conviction and willingness to state the truth rather than save his political image like Sarah Palin does.

This is a sad commentary, you are so conditioned to politicians saving face and keeping up with perception management that you no longer expect any truth or substance out of them. No wonder this nation is in the sorry state of corruption and ignorance that it is in today.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   1:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: wudidiz (#82) (Edited)

Why not?

"We cannot second guess the steps that Israel has to take to defend itself."

Why not?

"We cannot second guess the steps that Israel has to take to defend itself."

Perception mangement 101: just keep repeating the same thing over and over again and eventually they will stop asking the question. Repeat a lie enough times and people will believe it...imagine that.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   1:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Cynicom (#50)

So any guess who and why she was picked????

She paid for PR to get her name in the hat, according to the Washington Post:

An outside public relations expert hired under a $31,000 contract with the state Department of Natural Resources pitched the "upstart governor" as a crusader against Big Oil, a story line that Palin has adopted in her campaign as Sen. John McCain's running mate. The contract was the only time the Palin administration hired an outside consultant to set up media interviews, a function performed in many states by government employees.

Palin's gubernatorial calendar, obtained by The Washington Post under the Alaska Public Records Act, adds to the understanding of Palin as a political phenomenon, a governor from an obscure state who exploded onto the national stage after just 21 months in office. While many factors played a role in Palin's rise, including her background in broadcast journalism and the appeal of her life story, she also benefited from expert counsel on how to take her message to a national audience.

The agency signed a contract last year with Marcia Brier, who is based in Needham, Mass. Brier's Web site says she has been a public relations expert for 20 years, working mostly with law and medical firms. She represented Bader al- Saud, the Saudi prince, in his plea deal on a vehicular homicide charge. Another Brier client is the law firm Greenberg Traurig, which is providing legal services to the state of Alaska on the pipeline and recommended Brier to state officials.

Brier began pitching Palin for media interviews as early as October 2007, when an e-mail was sent to The Post.

Gibson, the oil and gas team member, said the contract with Brier ended when McCain picked Palin.

"We'd achieved our objective with getting the national attention," Gibson said. "There was no need anymore to use state money to achieve that. She has the platform. She can deliver the message. She doesn't have a problem reaching out to the media."

Yet, the masses were to believe that she was just an outsider picked on a whim. She had the PR team working for two years prior to her nomination. She was picked because her PR team did their job and met thier objective. But, I still don't know who did the picking.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   2:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: abraxas (#85)

Notice how Nader is being asked to not run? Notice how he actually speaks to the issue with knowledge, intellect and logic? Nader wasn't my choice, but he sure as hell offered substance on this issue. Blows your 100% all to pieces.

That video interview is absolutely awesome.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-06   2:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: abraxas (#85)

Notice how he actually speaks to the issue with knowledge, intellect and logic?

Palestinian deaths 300 to every 1 Israeli.

I didn't know that.

MERRY CHRISTMAS


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-06   2:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: AGAviator (#79)

LOLOL!

Your fellow Palin haters in the White House are not LOLOL!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-06   2:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: your_neighbor (#90)

And...er...uh... what's your punchline?

scrapper2  posted on  2009-12-06   2:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: your_neighbor (#90)

Your fellow Palin haters in the White House are not LOLOL!

It's their job to have enough research to be ready to blow her and all the other right wing k00ks to smithereens should they start piping up. But for now is's just time to let her continue making an ass of herself.

No need to give her any free publicity, negative or not. She's quite irrelevant, nearly as much as all those Obama Birth Certificate lawsuits.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-06   3:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: abraxas (#87)

Yet, the masses were to believe that she was just an outsider picked on a whim. She had the PR team working for two years prior to her nomination. She was picked because her PR team did their job and met thier objective.

E gads - 31 thousand dollars -- all of that with just one firm - oh my --- that is a 31 with 3 zeros after it!

Now that is buying your way into office!

There aught to be a law!

p.s. I wonder how much the WP spent fact checking that?

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-06   3:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: your_neighbor (#90)

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-06   3:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: scrapper2 (#91)

And...er...uh... what's your punchline?

All I said was --- GO Sarah!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-06   3:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: AGAviator (#92)

She's quite irrelevant

Then why all the habub and hate?

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-06   3:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: your_neighbor (#96)

Then why all the habub and hate?

No hate, just something to laugh at.

Just like crackpot Orly Taitz.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-06   3:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: AGAviator (#97) (Edited)

palin's being groomed to stage a "revolution"... the big wheels think palin will pacify knuckledraggers who might otherwise take to the streets...

it worked with obama, didnt it? ...hope and change with palin... so we wont be inclined to start shooting each other.

such a deal.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-06   3:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: abraxas (#85)

I admire Ralf Nader for his public stance on Palestine against Israel.

p.s. Did you notice how the media treated him – someone that was a lefty political blood brother to them.

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-06   3:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: AGAviator (#97)

Then why all the habub and hate?

No hate, just something to laugh at.

A fair description of this thread is “beat down” from the left and right.

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-06   3:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: your_neighbor (#42)

If she had sounded off when Bush was making illegal wars, passing Patriot Acts, and doing signing statements, then she might have some credibility.

When politicians speak out against the wrong headed moves of their own kind, then maybe they have some value.

Jim Traficant comes to mind. Here's a guy with some balls that could stir a nationalist movement like Pat Buchanan and then stay with it rather than bail out like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan have done.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_ Traficant

Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.

noone222  posted on  2009-12-06   4:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: noone222 (#101)

At this time I do not intend to vote for Palin – but I am open to it.

I believe that Sarah Palin is naïve and uneducated on many subjects – but she does have the opportunity to learn and grow.

If she is gung-ho pro war in two years I will not support her.

What I do not understand is the hate for her.

As to Israel, with a few exceptions she is no different then most every other politician in Western culture – why the special hate?

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-06   5:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: your_neighbor (#102)

What I do not understand is the hate for her.

It's not her, it's the neo-con (Israeli) agenda !

She's just another "trick" or rabbit from the magicians hat. Many Americans are sick and tired of being lied to, swindled, raped and murdered by these scumbags that say one thing and do another, regardless of party affiliation.

They are ALL liars, thieves and murderers.

A true rogue or renegade would be popular like never before ... but he/she would die before the election.

Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.

noone222  posted on  2009-12-06   6:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: your_neighbor (#102)

she is no different then most every other politician in Western culture – why the special hate?

You answered your own question ... they're all hated !

I think you are the victim of evangelical/fundamental Christianity, like so many Christians. (Maybe Palin is too.)

Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.

noone222  posted on  2009-12-06   6:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: purplerose (#66)

But not me!

Usually VP candidates are chosen for one of two reasons.

They will bring votes to the election. Example, Kennedy hated Johnson but without him he would have never been president.

Obviously Palin was not chosen for that reason, Alaska has less than a million people and no one had ever heard of her.

Or reason number two, the power people are confident of winning and need a throw away candidate for VP. One that can be discarded at anytime.

Biden is twenty years older than Obama and will be jettisoned when the time arrives.

If Palin was picked as a throwaway it was a bad choice, republicans have turned on her as well as cons, indicating they see her as a threat, even tho she has zero qualifications for President as espoused by many. Someone erred in her choice.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-06   8:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Cynicom (#105)

Someone erred in her choice.

Maybe the point was to see if Republican males were as stupid as Democrat females.

70% of Herr Klinton's votes came from females.

Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.

noone222  posted on  2009-12-06   8:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: noone222 (#106)

Maybe the point was to see if Republican males were as stupid as Democrat females.

Maybe she has been assured of some support from someone when she resigned and her husband quit his job?????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-06   8:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Cynicom (#107)

Her book is being advertised at $4.97 ... fucking total rip-off !!! (A $24.00 savings ... hahahahahaha ... perfect gift for a Republicrat ... symbolizing inflation and deflation at the same time !

Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.

noone222  posted on  2009-12-06   8:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: your_neighbor (#93)

E gads - 31 thousand dollars -- all of that with just one firm - oh my --- that is a 31 with 3 zeros after it!

Why do you focus on the dollar amount and igrnore that Sarah Palin is a marketing manipulation? She's an image that fits perfectly into the wants and desires of plain folks like yourself, perfectly into the left right dichotemy.

No matter that she has no substance because that image evokes so darn much emotion. She can say anything and true believers will love or hate her and act as if this emotion is relevant.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   11:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Cynicom (#105)

Usually VP candidates are chosen for one of two reasons.

Cyni, McCain's campaign was barely breathing on life support. The guy had no energy, no charisma, no true believers to rush to the voter box. In walks pretty, charismaitic, plain folk Sarah Palin.

She was a stalking horse to bring in true believers and, wow, what a success. No other option on McCain's short list could have succeeded in bringing back the disgruntled true believers who actually knew that McCain wasn't a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   11:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: your_neighbor (#102)

What I do not understand is the hate for her.

I've given you the reason for this time and again. This love-hate dichotemy is a normal response for masses of people who can't see beyond perception management, who don't demand or even value substance, who allow their emotions to determine merit not logic.

She uses loaded words to evoke this emotional response from the left and the love from her true believers. Public relations relies on emotion. This emotional response, this contrived hate and contrived love, draws in more interviews, more air time, more book promotion.

You act as if this love-hate over this woman actually matters beyond the next interview, beyond the right wing and left wing radio shows. You can't even give me any instances of Palin offering substance on any issue.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   11:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: your_neighbor (#99)

p.s. Did you notice how the media treated him – someone that was a lefty political blood brother to them.

Yes, all that knowledge and logic screws with the finely crafted perception management that states there can only be to choices: dem or rep. The MSM works diligently to keep this front and center with great success. That's why they keep third party candidates, who actually might speak some substance, out of the debates. Can't have those people thinking about issues when they are supposed to be thinking about left versus right.

I loved Nader's response. If the Dems can't win this one they should just close up shop. lol

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   11:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: abraxas (#110)

I would say McKooK NEVER had a chance of winning. When a black man comes from nowhere and $700 million dollars is donated without a hitch, no one could withstand that effort.

It was ordained long before Palin that McKooK was not going to win.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-06   11:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: abraxas (#111)

Questioning Black Obama's birth certiffcate is a denial of of Black Suprenmacy, the unwritten law of the land. Palin is above reproach on this one.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2009-12-06   11:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Cynicom (#113)

It was ordained long before Palin that McKooK was not going to win.

I agree, but Palin made the show believable didn't she? She gave the impression that he had a chance. She gave the true believers the hope that they needed to hold their noses and vote for McCain. Imagine the land slide without her......lol.

She's following Obama's step by step marketing to get elected. He began with marketing his image, getting key note speaking engagements. He wrote his book, catchy title like Palin's, shared his life story like Palin, set himself apart from the crowd like Palin. The timing is similar. The message finely crafted for true believers. The message: an outsider who will embody the desires, hopes and dreams of the true believer constituency. Both have no tedious voting record for people to question so they can sell a message and not have it scrutinized too much.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   11:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: wudidiz (#89)

lol.....that link is funny.

Ol' Nader has the facts.......hence, he must be marginalized. The sheeple are not to critically think about issues, just hop an emotional bandwagon created for them by the MSM. Love!! Hate!! Dispise!! Yell!! Hope!!

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   11:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: abraxas (#115)

Obama voted for murdering babies born alive.

People who knew about that vote and voted for him are accessories to murder.

Palin is kind of like a saint.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-12-06   11:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: abraxas (#115)

I agree, but Palin made the show believable didn't she?

Not to my view.

I had never heard of her and other than being a female with a physical appearance, anyone that had decided not to vote didnt, because it was McKooK that was going to be President.

The dems tried that ploy with Ferraro and it was a flop just as was McKooK and Palin.

Had McKooK been serious about wanting the "conservative" vote, all he had to do was add Ron Paul, he didnt and he lost to a preordained winner.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-06   11:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: wudidiz, abraxas (#89)

Palestinian deaths 300 to every 1 Israeli.

I should add that to my statement over on the epic Islamophobe thread.

And, then, this, too: they killed 3000 of us on 09/11 so we went over there and killed over a million of them (granted that all of those were senior Al- Queda officials).

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-06   11:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: your_neighbor (#102)

Sarah Palin is an Israel ass kissing illusion of choice being dished out to the FR/LP/Fox viewing types.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-06   11:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: A K A Stone (#117)

Palin is kind of like a saint.

lol.....in the same way that John Hagee is a saint.

You still believe that the abortion issue is anything more than a stalking horse to rally the emotions of the true believers? Gee, you had a republican controlled house, senate and executive and beyond the election cycle they never bothered to talk about the issue. That should have been a clue for folks.

What percentage of people do you think knew about that vote by Obama? I'd say less than one eighth of one percent. Was that vote getting airplay beyond a group of people who weren't going to vote for Obama anyway?

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   11:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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