4um: Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit

Title: Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/palin-questioning-obama/
Published: Dec 5, 2009
Author: Raw Story
Post Date: 2009-12-05 14:21:59 by wudidiz
Keywords: None
Views: 1754
Comments: 183

Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit

By Raw Story
Friday, December 4th, 2009 -- 8:32 am

Update at bottom: Palin backtracks -- partly -- in Facebook posting

In a radio appearance Thursday, former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said questions about President Obama's birth certificate -- a spurious attempt to argue that he's not a US citizen and thus ineligible for President -- are fair game for debate.

Transcript and video follows.

HUMPHRIES: Sarah Palin here on the Rusty Humphries Show. One of the questions Jason asks is would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?
PALIN: I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue because I think there are enough members of the electorate that still want answers.

HUMPHRIES: Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?
PALIN: I think it’s a fair question just like I think past associations and past voting records. All of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you too, I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.
HUMPHRIES: I mean, truly if your past is fair game and your kids are fair game, certainly Obama’s past should be. I mean, we want to treat men and women equally, right?
PALIN: Hey, you know, that’s a great point. And that weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn’t my real son, and a lot of people that went "Well, you need to produce his birth certificate, you need to prove that he’s your kid," which we have done, but yeah, so maybe we can reverse that, and use the same [inaudible] thinking on the other one.

UPDATE

Following her radio interview comments about Obama's birth certificate, Sarah Palin backtracked -- partly -- in a posting to her Facebook page late Wednesday night.

"At no point ... have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States," Palin wrote in a posting she titled "Stupid conspiracies."

The full statement reads:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

Palin is being accused of JUST stirring the pot – WELL what is wrong with that.

I personally think that she is unsure and uneducated on many subjects – but being unsure is not the same as being stupid.

She cannot work with and manage people, which is an absolute necessity for leadership and consensus-building.

She will make a lot of noise and a lot of money for herself until people get tired of her after one too many gaffes, but she will go nowhere.

Your biased personal opinion, or based on something the rest of us have not read or seen?

Assertion: Assertion is commonly used in advertising and modern propaganda. An assertion is an enthusiastic or energetic statement presented as a fact, although it is not necessarily true. They often imply that the statement requires no explanation or back up, but that it should merely be accepted without question.

Bandwagon: When confronted with bandwagon propaganda, we should weigh the pros and cons of joining in independently from the amount of people who have already joined, and, as with most types of propaganda, we should seek more information.

Card stacking: Card stacking, or selective omission, is one of the seven techniques identified by the IPA, or Institute for Propaganda Analysis. It involves only presenting information that is positive to an idea or proposal and omitting information contrary to it. Card stacking is used in almost all forms of propaganda, and is extremely effective in convincing the public. Although the majority of information presented by the card stacking approach is true, it is dangerous because it omits important information. The best way to deal with card stacking is to get more information.

Glittering Generalities: Glittering generalities are words that have different positive meaning for individual subjects, but are linked to highly valued concepts. When these words are used, they demand approval without thinking, simply because such an important concept is involved. For example, when a person is asked to do something in "defense of democracy" they are more likely to agree. The concept of democracy has a positive connotation to them because it is linked to a concept that they value. Words often used as glittering generalities are honor, glory, love of country, and especially in the United States, freedom. When coming across with glittering generalities, we should especially consider the merits of the idea itself when separated from specific words.

Pinpointing the Enemy: Pinpointing the enemy is used extremely often during wartime, and also in political campaigns and debates. This is an attempt to simplify a complex situation by presenting one specific group or person as the enemy. Although there may be other factors involved the subject is urged to simply view the situation in terms of clear-cut right and wrong. When coming in contact with this technique, the subject should attempt to consider all other factors tied into the situation.

Plain Folks: The plain folks device is an attempt by the propagandist to convince the public that his views reflect those of the common person and that they are also working for the benefit of the common person. The propagandist will often attempt to use the accent of a specific audience as well as using specific idioms or jokes. Also, the propagandist, especially during speeches, may attempt to increase the illusion through imperfect pronunciation, stuttering, and a more limited vocabulary. Errors such as these help add to the impression of sincerity and spontaneity. This technique is usually most effective when used with glittering generalities, in an attempt to convince the public that the propagandist views about highly valued ideas are similar to their own and therefore more valid. When confronted by this type of propaganda, the subject should consider the proposals and ideas separately from the personality of the presenter.

Please note the remedy for each type of propaganda that is presented within the public relations phenomenon Sarah Palin.

I have been looking for the name of the person that picked Palin out of the crowd and why?????

Most would agree she did not pick herself, so there has to be someone out there that did..

Good questions, cyni. I'm not sure who picked her. Yet, I am certain she was chosen for specific reasons and has been packaged to meet those objectives.

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the [public] is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.” –Edward Bernays

I am long in the tooth and Palin is the first VP candidate that to my knowledge has been demeaned by the entire political spectrum, and I cannot explain it.

Palin for some reason sets off the hate button in all shades of politics, really odd.

Some may hate her but not all do. I dislike her because I detect her as being a hypocrite and a real phony. I do not sense any honor or integrity in this female at all. True, she is pretty attractive which was why she was picked. And the best way to fool the masses is to use the art of attraction to deceive and hoodwink them. Many are falling right into her baittrap. But not me!

They will bring votes to the election. Example, Kennedy hated Johnson but without him he would have never been president.

Obviously Palin was not chosen for that reason, Alaska has less than a million people and no one had ever heard of her.

Or reason number two, the power people are confident of winning and need a throw away candidate for VP. One that can be discarded at anytime.

Biden is twenty years older than Obama and will be jettisoned when the time arrives.

If Palin was picked as a throwaway it was a bad choice, republicans have turned on her as well as cons, indicating they see her as a threat, even tho she has zero qualifications for President as espoused by many. Someone erred in her choice.

Cyni, McCain's campaign was barely breathing on life support. The guy had no energy, no charisma, no true believers to rush to the voter box. In walks pretty, charismaitic, plain folk Sarah Palin.

She was a stalking horse to bring in true believers and, wow, what a success. No other option on McCain's short list could have succeeded in bringing back the disgruntled true believers who actually knew that McCain wasn't a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

I despised McCain. I was a Ron Paul man. I voted for McCain/Palin because Palin wasn't born rich. She had to work for what she got. She started off as a pissed off partent on the PTA. She is grass roots. She is the only candidate on the horizon that has any kind of chance of turning things around. Until someone better comes along that has a real shot. I will support Palin. Besides it pisses off the liberal turds.

How did Palin work? Did she pay her own way through college? Did she take out taxpayer loans? Did her parents foot the bill?

How is she grass roots? This is the PR story, yes. But what do you kow to support this claim?

She is now the "only one on the horizon" to strap your hopes and dreams upon? This is how Saint Sarah is marketing herself...her team is doing a hell of a job. Sounds quite similar to the Obama strategy.......lol. Funny how Obama is a fraud for using such marketing gimmicks, but ol' Sarah is a saint.

Tell me, how is Saint Sarah going to turn ANYTHING around. I don't want platitudes, but some real substance......if you can find any.

Yes, she is very effective at pissing off liberal turds. Sad thing is that folks actually think this is a good enough quality to cover her lack of substance and inability to offer any real solutions for any issus. She is so useful at keeping the masses focused on the two party fraud!!

Blame Sarah? I merely pointed out that she is yet another marketing ploy to keep up the charade.......and it's very succcessful, jut read your comments. That speaks volumes as to what she is accomplishing. She sure is a pretty diversion and she doesn't have to speak truth on issues or offer substance, just piss off liberals and carry on with perception management for the true believers. Go Sarah!!

She quit or job in Alaska after the changes she made opened up ethics violation complaints against her. The fire got hot and Sarah fled. And she quit at such a convenient time, when she was facing economic shortfalls and wouldn't be able to funnel federal funds to her constituency. Oh, but it was all for the people. Quit your elected position, working for the people, to save the people from a ethics violations that came about from ineffective changes made at the executive level of Alaska government. Now the next Gov. is left to clean house.........all for the people!! Yeah, she really took on the establishment, like leaving Wasilla in debt for decades when she waltzed off to find higher political ground.

Hail Sarah. I know, these facts matter not to true believers who buy the story that she really made significant changes up in Alaska.

Palin is NOT the pick of the established Republican Party. The Midwest and East Cost Republicans will support someone else – with a vengeance.

They would rather lose then support someone who would bring in Westerners that would displace them.