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Title: Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit
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URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/palin-questioning-obama/
Published: Dec 5, 2009
Author: Raw Story
Post Date: 2009-12-05 14:21:59 by wudidiz
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Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit

By Raw Story
Friday, December 4th, 2009 -- 8:32 am

Update at bottom: Palin backtracks -- partly -- in Facebook posting

In a radio appearance Thursday, former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said questions about President Obama's birth certificate -- a spurious attempt to argue that he's not a US citizen and thus ineligible for President -- are fair game for debate.

Transcript and video follows.

HUMPHRIES: Sarah Palin here on the Rusty Humphries Show. One of the questions Jason asks is would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?
PALIN: I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue because I think there are enough members of the electorate that still want answers.

HUMPHRIES: Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?
PALIN: I think it’s a fair question just like I think past associations and past voting records. All of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you too, I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.
HUMPHRIES: I mean, truly if your past is fair game and your kids are fair game, certainly Obama’s past should be. I mean, we want to treat men and women equally, right?
PALIN: Hey, you know, that’s a great point. And that weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn’t my real son, and a lot of people that went "Well, you need to produce his birth certificate, you need to prove that he’s your kid," which we have done, but yeah, so maybe we can reverse that, and use the same [inaudible] thinking on the other one.

UPDATE

Following her radio interview comments about Obama's birth certificate, Sarah Palin backtracked -- partly -- in a posting to her Facebook page late Wednesday night.

"At no point ... have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States," Palin wrote in a posting she titled "Stupid conspiracies."

The full statement reads:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

To who? It's a diversion that gets her base giddy. It's a diversion that gets her opposition frothing at the mouth. It's a dog and pony show. It's not as if this issue will go anywhere....lol. And it's not as if there isn't a mountain of salient issues Saint Sarah could address, although without the same giddy and frothy responses from the overly emotional true believers.

All of these statements matter to the same two camps: her true believing base and her frothing at the mouth opposition. Were these statement of value to those outside the true believer camps? I don't think so.

Do you really think it mattered an iota to your average independent or libertarian?

The way Palin makes her statements is taken directly from Edward Bernays' playbook. He was the father of public relations (coined the term because people felt a negative connotation for propaganda) He new that you sold issues and people and anything under the sun, not with logic but with emotion.

Every statement Saint Sarah makes must contain loaded words. She can't open her mouth without them. IMO, you are making the mistake of allowing an emotional response to what she says without consideration of the content or intent. But, that's how she gets so much media attention, that's how she gets the base giddy, that's how she gets her opposition frothing--it's really quite a PR circus if you step back and evaluate what people say about her and what Saint Sarah says to attain the desired response.

There is truth to what she says – the other side is lying when it says there will be no death panels – when they say climate change is going to raise the sea levels ten feet – when they say Obama is a legitimate middle of the road American.

Palin is marketing. She is a public relations phenomenon. She throws just the meat the will evoke the predetermined emotional response and media attention. There is very little substance in the meat that is thrown.

The problem is that people are so conditioned to perception management techniques and propaganda that they buy into every thing Saint Sarah says with emotional zeal.

Yes, there is truth in all propaganda if it is to be effective. Why don't you look at what is omitted? She uses loaded words like "death panels" and look how the masses fall for word manipulation. You fall for it all hook, line and sinker. Climate change or global warming? Ask Frank Luntz--he's the PR genius who coined the term climate change for the purpose of perception managment. He also dubbed the estate tax (which nobody gave a rats ass about for decades) death tax and POOF!! everbody who will never pay a dime or deal with this issue because they are too poor to count suddenly care deeply about the issue. And the serfs never even grasp that they are being manipulated.

Propaganda and public relations is all that is sticking to America's ribs--like super glue. You are an excellent example.

Tell me Sarah's views on salient issues without the use of loaded words. Yes, Sarah is a PR dream and folks are rushing to join the bandwagon!! She is the answer to your desires right? She's plain folk, just like you right? She says all those words that evoke the right emotional response and, by golly, she is the only one saying them.........and this is all simply due to her charisma and has nothing to do with how she is marketed.

Boy hmm, this is hard to figure out - how does this trailer park trash of a women with five babies (one of them a retard no less), who went to 6 collages in five years, get this "words thing" so right without a bunch of East coast Jewish Harvard educated cultural dumpster diving sewer tramps telling her how to do it?

Where do you get the idea she doesn't have anyone handing her scripts to practice?

It's their job to have enough research to be ready to blow her and all the other right wing k00ks to smithereens should they start piping up. But for now is's just time to let her continue making an ass of herself.

No need to give her any free publicity, negative or not. She's quite irrelevant, nearly as much as all those Obama Birth Certificate lawsuits.

A conservative female columnist started out believing in her and hoping for her, and after she opened her mouth a few times, the columnist started cringing more and more, and now has come to the conclusion that the best thing Palin could have done is get out of the picture so as not to embarrass McCain any more than she already had.

Outside of a core group of noisy yappy supporters who see her as some kind of anti-politician - even though she parrots pro-Jewish talking points - few see her as relevant or qualified.

So as if it's not enough that Republicans of all shapes, sizes, and forms are becoming an endangered species, we have a Republican candidate who feels like she does not need to support the party she has accepted a position from, whenever she feels like not supporting the party.

As I don't particularly like Republicans, I second your "Good on Her!" statement.

What you've said, without realizing it, is that Palin will forever be a fringe candidate, who can't work with other people and build consensus, even among what should be her base, and who will just be a way for fringe voters to protest the system without ever being able to do anything about it.

Why else would she take a nomination for the 2nd highest office in the country from the party, leapfrogging over hundreds of other people with more experience and ability, then immediately afterwards go on a self-promoting book tour while criticizing her former benefactors.

Shed no tears for the Republican elite – they have been using us for far to long.