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Title: Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit
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URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/palin-questioning-obama/
Published: Dec 5, 2009
Author: Raw Story
Post Date: 2009-12-05 14:21:59 by wudidiz
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Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit

By Raw Story
Friday, December 4th, 2009 -- 8:32 am

Update at bottom: Palin backtracks -- partly -- in Facebook posting

In a radio appearance Thursday, former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said questions about President Obama's birth certificate -- a spurious attempt to argue that he's not a US citizen and thus ineligible for President -- are fair game for debate.

Transcript and video follows.

HUMPHRIES: Sarah Palin here on the Rusty Humphries Show. One of the questions Jason asks is would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?
PALIN: I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue because I think there are enough members of the electorate that still want answers.

HUMPHRIES: Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?
PALIN: I think it’s a fair question just like I think past associations and past voting records. All of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you too, I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.
HUMPHRIES: I mean, truly if your past is fair game and your kids are fair game, certainly Obama’s past should be. I mean, we want to treat men and women equally, right?
PALIN: Hey, you know, that’s a great point. And that weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn’t my real son, and a lot of people that went "Well, you need to produce his birth certificate, you need to prove that he’s your kid," which we have done, but yeah, so maybe we can reverse that, and use the same [inaudible] thinking on the other one.

UPDATE

Following her radio interview comments about Obama's birth certificate, Sarah Palin backtracked -- partly -- in a posting to her Facebook page late Wednesday night.

"At no point ... have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States," Palin wrote in a posting she titled "Stupid conspiracies."

The full statement reads:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

Palin is being accused of JUST stirring the pot – WELL what is wrong with that.

I personally think that she is unsure and uneducated on many subjects – but being unsure is not the same as being stupid.

She cannot work with and manage people, which is an absolute necessity for leadership and consensus-building.

She will make a lot of noise and a lot of money for herself until people get tired of her after one too many gaffes, but she will go nowhere.

Your biased personal opinion, or based on something the rest of us have not read or seen?

Assertion: Assertion is commonly used in advertising and modern propaganda. An assertion is an enthusiastic or energetic statement presented as a fact, although it is not necessarily true. They often imply that the statement requires no explanation or back up, but that it should merely be accepted without question.

Bandwagon: When confronted with bandwagon propaganda, we should weigh the pros and cons of joining in independently from the amount of people who have already joined, and, as with most types of propaganda, we should seek more information.

Card stacking: Card stacking, or selective omission, is one of the seven techniques identified by the IPA, or Institute for Propaganda Analysis. It involves only presenting information that is positive to an idea or proposal and omitting information contrary to it. Card stacking is used in almost all forms of propaganda, and is extremely effective in convincing the public. Although the majority of information presented by the card stacking approach is true, it is dangerous because it omits important information. The best way to deal with card stacking is to get more information.

Glittering Generalities: Glittering generalities are words that have different positive meaning for individual subjects, but are linked to highly valued concepts. When these words are used, they demand approval without thinking, simply because such an important concept is involved. For example, when a person is asked to do something in "defense of democracy" they are more likely to agree. The concept of democracy has a positive connotation to them because it is linked to a concept that they value. Words often used as glittering generalities are honor, glory, love of country, and especially in the United States, freedom. When coming across with glittering generalities, we should especially consider the merits of the idea itself when separated from specific words.

Pinpointing the Enemy: Pinpointing the enemy is used extremely often during wartime, and also in political campaigns and debates. This is an attempt to simplify a complex situation by presenting one specific group or person as the enemy. Although there may be other factors involved the subject is urged to simply view the situation in terms of clear-cut right and wrong. When coming in contact with this technique, the subject should attempt to consider all other factors tied into the situation.

Plain Folks: The plain folks device is an attempt by the propagandist to convince the public that his views reflect those of the common person and that they are also working for the benefit of the common person. The propagandist will often attempt to use the accent of a specific audience as well as using specific idioms or jokes. Also, the propagandist, especially during speeches, may attempt to increase the illusion through imperfect pronunciation, stuttering, and a more limited vocabulary. Errors such as these help add to the impression of sincerity and spontaneity. This technique is usually most effective when used with glittering generalities, in an attempt to convince the public that the propagandist views about highly valued ideas are similar to their own and therefore more valid. When confronted by this type of propaganda, the subject should consider the proposals and ideas separately from the personality of the presenter.

Please note the remedy for each type of propaganda that is presented within the public relations phenomenon Sarah Palin.

I have been looking for the name of the person that picked Palin out of the crowd and why?????

Most would agree she did not pick herself, so there has to be someone out there that did..

Good questions, cyni. I'm not sure who picked her. Yet, I am certain she was chosen for specific reasons and has been packaged to meet those objectives.

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the [public] is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.” –Edward Bernays

I am long in the tooth and Palin is the first VP candidate that to my knowledge has been demeaned by the entire political spectrum, and I cannot explain it.

Palin for some reason sets off the hate button in all shades of politics, really odd.

Some may hate her but not all do. I dislike her because I detect her as being a hypocrite and a real phony. I do not sense any honor or integrity in this female at all. True, she is pretty attractive which was why she was picked. And the best way to fool the masses is to use the art of attraction to deceive and hoodwink them. Many are falling right into her baittrap. But not me!

They will bring votes to the election. Example, Kennedy hated Johnson but without him he would have never been president.

Obviously Palin was not chosen for that reason, Alaska has less than a million people and no one had ever heard of her.

Or reason number two, the power people are confident of winning and need a throw away candidate for VP. One that can be discarded at anytime.

Biden is twenty years older than Obama and will be jettisoned when the time arrives.

If Palin was picked as a throwaway it was a bad choice, republicans have turned on her as well as cons, indicating they see her as a threat, even tho she has zero qualifications for President as espoused by many. Someone erred in her choice.

Cyni, McCain's campaign was barely breathing on life support. The guy had no energy, no charisma, no true believers to rush to the voter box. In walks pretty, charismaitic, plain folk Sarah Palin.

She was a stalking horse to bring in true believers and, wow, what a success. No other option on McCain's short list could have succeeded in bringing back the disgruntled true believers who actually knew that McCain wasn't a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

I would say McKooK NEVER had a chance of winning. When a black man comes from nowhere and $700 million dollars is donated without a hitch, no one could withstand that effort.

I agree, but Palin made the show believable didn't she? She gave the impression that he had a chance. She gave the true believers the hope that they needed to hold their noses and vote for McCain. Imagine the land slide without her......lol.

She's following Obama's step by step marketing to get elected. He began with marketing his image, getting key note speaking engagements. He wrote his book, catchy title like Palin's, shared his life story like Palin, set himself apart from the crowd like Palin. The timing is similar. The message finely crafted for true believers. The message: an outsider who will embody the desires, hopes and dreams of the true believer constituency. Both have no tedious voting record for people to question so they can sell a message and not have it scrutinized too much.

I had never heard of her and other than being a female with a physical appearance, anyone that had decided not to vote didnt, because it was McKooK that was going to be President.

The dems tried that ploy with Ferraro and it was a flop just as was McKooK and Palin.

Had McKooK been serious about wanting the "conservative" vote, all he had to do was add Ron Paul, he didnt and he lost to a preordained winner.

Sarah is trying to ride the tiger's back without being eaten or bagged by left wing hunters aiming scopes to send rhetorical bullets at her from the political helicopters the Daily KOS, DU and other blog/forum entities are.

She would be smarter to remain aloft from the frey and let others mount up that beastie. Bottom line. ;-)

Heh, not only that, he forgot that was his signature, he did. Don't worry precious, I am going to replace it with a smalleer diddy. But, hey thanks for sharing.

(Pssst.... I am authorized to be here. Good to see you too. And in a Christmaslike mood no less. ;-)