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Title: Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/palin-questioning-obama/
Published: Dec 5, 2009
Author: Raw Story
Post Date: 2009-12-05 14:21:59 by wudidiz
Keywords: None
Views: 1613
Comments: 183

Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit

By Raw Story
Friday, December 4th, 2009 -- 8:32 am

Update at bottom: Palin backtracks -- partly -- in Facebook posting

In a radio appearance Thursday, former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said questions about President Obama's birth certificate -- a spurious attempt to argue that he's not a US citizen and thus ineligible for President -- are fair game for debate.

Transcript and video follows.

HUMPHRIES: Sarah Palin here on the Rusty Humphries Show. One of the questions Jason asks is would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?

PALIN: I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue because I think there are enough members of the electorate that still want answers.

HUMPHRIES: Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?

PALIN: I think it’s a fair question just like I think past associations and past voting records. All of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you too, I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.

HUMPHRIES: I mean, truly if your past is fair game and your kids are fair game, certainly Obama’s past should be. I mean, we want to treat men and women equally, right?

PALIN: Hey, you know, that’s a great point. And that weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn’t my real son, and a lot of people that went "Well, you need to produce his birth certificate, you need to prove that he’s your kid," which we have done, but yeah, so maybe we can reverse that, and use the same [inaudible] thinking on the other one.

UPDATE

Following her radio interview comments about Obama's birth certificate, Sarah Palin backtracked -- partly -- in a posting to her Facebook page late Wednesday night.

"At no point ... have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States," Palin wrote in a posting she titled "Stupid conspiracies."

The full statement reads:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

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#20. To: wudidiz (#0)

I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.

The whole political establishment was ballless in 2008.

Obama lied throughout the campaign - and no one laid a glove on him but Palin.

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

Go Sarah!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   18:45:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: your_neighbor (#20)

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

They own her too.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-05   19:25:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz (#22)

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

They own her too.

Then why is she attacking thier boy?

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   20:45:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: your_neighbor (#29)

Then why is she attacking thier boy?

All part of the charade, I guess.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-05   20:54:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: wudidiz (#31)

Then why is she attacking thier boy?

All part of the charade, I guess.

So is it good that she is attacking Obama - or bad??

It does seem to matter.

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   21:10:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: your_neighbor (#33)

So is it good that she is attacking Obama - or bad??

It does seem to matter.

I guess it sounds good for those that like her and don't like Obama.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-05   22:07:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#41)

So is it good that she is attacking Obama - or bad??

It does seem to matter.

I guess it sounds good for those that like her and don't like Obama.

Palin is being accused of JUST stirring the pot – WELL what is wrong with that.

I personally think that she is unsure and uneducated on many subjects – but being unsure is not the same as being stupid.

Is she 100% ready for primetime – NO but she may be learning.

Sarah has two years to get up to speed – time will tell.

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   22:30:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: your_neighbor (#44)

Is she 100% ready for primetime – NO but she may be learning.

Sarah has two years to get up to speed – time will tell.

Palin is a media ho, and as superfical and just plain dumb as you can get.

She cannot work with and manage people, which is an absolute necessity for leadership and consensus-building.

She will make a lot of noise and a lot of money for herself until people get tired of her after one too many gaffes, but she will go nowhere.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-05   22:43:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: AGAviator (#45)

Palin is a media ho, and as superfical and just plain dumb as you can get.

Your biased personal opinion, or based on something the rest of us have not read or seen?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-05   22:46:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#47. To: Cynicom, all (#46)

Sarah Palin is--

Assertion: Assertion is commonly used in advertising and modern propaganda. An assertion is an enthusiastic or energetic statement presented as a fact, although it is not necessarily true. They often imply that the statement requires no explanation or back up, but that it should merely be accepted without question.

Bandwagon: When confronted with bandwagon propaganda, we should weigh the pros and cons of joining in independently from the amount of people who have already joined, and, as with most types of propaganda, we should seek more information.

Card stacking: Card stacking, or selective omission, is one of the seven techniques identified by the IPA, or Institute for Propaganda Analysis. It involves only presenting information that is positive to an idea or proposal and omitting information contrary to it. Card stacking is used in almost all forms of propaganda, and is extremely effective in convincing the public. Although the majority of information presented by the card stacking approach is true, it is dangerous because it omits important information. The best way to deal with card stacking is to get more information.

Glittering Generalities: Glittering generalities are words that have different positive meaning for individual subjects, but are linked to highly valued concepts. When these words are used, they demand approval without thinking, simply because such an important concept is involved. For example, when a person is asked to do something in "defense of democracy" they are more likely to agree. The concept of democracy has a positive connotation to them because it is linked to a concept that they value. Words often used as glittering generalities are honor, glory, love of country, and especially in the United States, freedom. When coming across with glittering generalities, we should especially consider the merits of the idea itself when separated from specific words.

Pinpointing the Enemy: Pinpointing the enemy is used extremely often during wartime, and also in political campaigns and debates. This is an attempt to simplify a complex situation by presenting one specific group or person as the enemy. Although there may be other factors involved the subject is urged to simply view the situation in terms of clear-cut right and wrong. When coming in contact with this technique, the subject should attempt to consider all other factors tied into the situation.

Plain Folks: The plain folks device is an attempt by the propagandist to convince the public that his views reflect those of the common person and that they are also working for the benefit of the common person. The propagandist will often attempt to use the accent of a specific audience as well as using specific idioms or jokes. Also, the propagandist, especially during speeches, may attempt to increase the illusion through imperfect pronunciation, stuttering, and a more limited vocabulary. Errors such as these help add to the impression of sincerity and spontaneity. This technique is usually most effective when used with glittering generalities, in an attempt to convince the public that the propagandist views about highly valued ideas are similar to their own and therefore more valid. When confronted by this type of propaganda, the subject should consider the proposals and ideas separately from the personality of the presenter.

Please note the remedy for each type of propaganda that is presented within the public relations phenomenon Sarah Palin.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-05 22:58:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Cynicom (#46) (Edited)

Palin is a media ho, and as superfical and just plain dumb as you can get. Your biased personal opinion, or based on something the rest of us have not read or seen?

What really made me take notice was her preening for the TV cameras while turkeys were being slaughtered right in back of her, and her being so oblivious and stupid to what was going on around her that she didn't even try to set the scene up so those things wouldn't find their way into the pictures.

Sarah Palin's Thanksgiving Turkey Massacre

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-05 23:06:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Cynicom (#46)

Your biased personal opinion, or based on something the rest of us have not read or seen?

O'Reilly preening, and oohing and aahhing all over her every weekday is all I have to know. There is never a day on his show without a Palin segment usually about how someone dared to diss her highness. She's a true marketing marvel.

mininggold  posted on  2009-12-05 23:11:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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