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Title: Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/palin-questioning-obama/
Published: Dec 5, 2009
Author: Raw Story
Post Date: 2009-12-05 14:21:59 by wudidiz
Keywords: None
Views: 1797
Comments: 183

Palin says questioning Obama’s birth certificate legit

By Raw Story
Friday, December 4th, 2009 -- 8:32 am

Update at bottom: Palin backtracks -- partly -- in Facebook posting

In a radio appearance Thursday, former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said questions about President Obama's birth certificate -- a spurious attempt to argue that he's not a US citizen and thus ineligible for President -- are fair game for debate.

Transcript and video follows.

HUMPHRIES: Sarah Palin here on the Rusty Humphries Show. One of the questions Jason asks is would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?

PALIN: I think the public rightly is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue because I think there are enough members of the electorate that still want answers.

HUMPHRIES: Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?

PALIN: I think it’s a fair question just like I think past associations and past voting records. All of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you too, I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.

HUMPHRIES: I mean, truly if your past is fair game and your kids are fair game, certainly Obama’s past should be. I mean, we want to treat men and women equally, right?

PALIN: Hey, you know, that’s a great point. And that weird conspiracy theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn’t my real son, and a lot of people that went "Well, you need to produce his birth certificate, you need to prove that he’s your kid," which we have done, but yeah, so maybe we can reverse that, and use the same [inaudible] thinking on the other one.

UPDATE

Following her radio interview comments about Obama's birth certificate, Sarah Palin backtracked -- partly -- in a posting to her Facebook page late Wednesday night.

"At no point ... have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States," Palin wrote in a posting she titled "Stupid conspiracies."

The full statement reads:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

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#20. To: wudidiz (#0)

I think our campaign, the McCain-Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were, and perhaps what their future plans were, and I don’t think that was fair to voters to not have done our job as candidates and a campaign to bring to light a lot of things that now we’re seeing manifest in the administration.

The whole political establishment was ballless in 2008.

Obama lied throughout the campaign - and no one laid a glove on him but Palin.

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

Go Sarah!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   18:45:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: your_neighbor (#20)

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

They own her too.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-05   19:25:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz (#22)

I see no one other then Palin, who will tackle the Jewish machine that put Obama in office.

They own her too.

Then why is she attacking thier boy?

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   20:45:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: your_neighbor (#29)

Then why is she attacking thier boy?

All part of the charade, I guess.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-05   20:54:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: wudidiz (#31)

Then why is she attacking thier boy?

All part of the charade, I guess.

So is it good that she is attacking Obama - or bad??

It does seem to matter.

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   21:10:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: your_neighbor (#33)

It does seem to matter.

To who? It's a diversion that gets her base giddy. It's a diversion that gets her opposition frothing at the mouth. It's a dog and pony show. It's not as if this issue will go anywhere....lol. And it's not as if there isn't a mountain of salient issues Saint Sarah could address, although without the same giddy and frothy responses from the overly emotional true believers.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-05   21:51:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: abraxas (#39)

It does seem to matter.

To who? It's a diversion that gets her base giddy.

Hmm?

What about her ‘Boycott Copenhagen’ because of ‘Climategate’ remarks?

What about her “death panel” remarks?

Do these matter to more then her base?

Were they not of value?

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   22:14:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: your_neighbor (#42) (Edited)

What about her ‘Boycott Copenhagen’ because of ‘Climategate’ remarks?

What about her “death panel” remarks?

Do these matter to more then her base?

Were they not of value?

All of these statements matter to the same two camps: her true believing base and her frothing at the mouth opposition. Were these statement of value to those outside the true believer camps? I don't think so.

Do you really think it mattered an iota to your average independent or libertarian?

The way Palin makes her statements is taken directly from Edward Bernays' playbook. He was the father of public relations (coined the term because people felt a negative connotation for propaganda) He new that you sold issues and people and anything under the sun, not with logic but with emotion.

Every statement Saint Sarah makes must contain loaded words. She can't open her mouth without them. IMO, you are making the mistake of allowing an emotional response to what she says without consideration of the content or intent. But, that's how she gets so much media attention, that's how she gets the base giddy, that's how she gets her opposition frothing--it's really quite a PR circus if you step back and evaluate what people say about her and what Saint Sarah says to attain the desired response.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-05   22:27:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: abraxas (#43)

The way Palin makes her statements is taken directly from Edward Bernays' playbook. He was the father of public relations (coined the term because people felt a negative connotation for propaganda) He new that you sold issues and people and anything under the sun, not with logic but with emotion.

So Palin is guilty of throwing red meat to the lions – oh NO not that!

The problem for her opponents is that what she throws sticks to the ribs!

There is truth to what she says – the other side is lying when it says there will be no death panels – when they say climate change is going to raise the sea levels ten feet – when they say Obama is a legitimate middle of the road American.

Some of all of this is sticking to America’s ribs.

NO one else is saying these things with the same effect --- Thank you Sarah!

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-05   23:54:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: your_neighbor (#67)

So Palin is guilty of throwing red meat to the lions – oh NO not that!

Palin is marketing. She is a public relations phenomenon. She throws just the meat the will evoke the predetermined emotional response and media attention. There is very little substance in the meat that is thrown.

The problem is that people are so conditioned to perception management techniques and propaganda that they buy into every thing Saint Sarah says with emotional zeal.

Yes, there is truth in all propaganda if it is to be effective. Why don't you look at what is omitted? She uses loaded words like "death panels" and look how the masses fall for word manipulation. You fall for it all hook, line and sinker. Climate change or global warming? Ask Frank Luntz--he's the PR genius who coined the term climate change for the purpose of perception managment. He also dubbed the estate tax (which nobody gave a rats ass about for decades) death tax and POOF!! everbody who will never pay a dime or deal with this issue because they are too poor to count suddenly care deeply about the issue. And the serfs never even grasp that they are being manipulated.

Propaganda and public relations is all that is sticking to America's ribs--like super glue. You are an excellent example.

Tell me Sarah's views on salient issues without the use of loaded words. Yes, Sarah is a PR dream and folks are rushing to join the bandwagon!! She is the answer to your desires right? She's plain folk, just like you right? She says all those words that evoke the right emotional response and, by golly, she is the only one saying them.........and this is all simply due to her charisma and has nothing to do with how she is marketed.

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06   0:45:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: abraxas (#73)

Tell me Sarah's views on salient issues without the use of loaded words. Yes, Sarah is a PR dream and folks are rushing to join the bandwagon!! She is the answer to your desires right? She's plain folk, just like you right? She says all those words that evoke the right emotional response and, by golly, she is the only one saying them.........and this is all simply due to her charisma and has nothing to do with how she is marketed.

Boy hmm, this is hard to figure out - how does this trailer park trash of a women with five babies (one of them a retard no less), who went to 6 collages in five years, get this "words thing" so right without a bunch of East coast Jewish Harvard educated cultural dumpster diving sewer tramps telling her how to do it?

your_neighbor  posted on  2009-12-06   1:22:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#79. To: your_neighbor, abraxas (#78) (Edited)

get this "words thing" so right without a bunch of East coast Jewish Harvard educated cultural dumpster diving sewer tramps telling her how to do it?

Where do you get the idea she doesn't have anyone handing her scripts to practice?

Hell, even porn "actresses" have to memorize a line or two!

LOLOL!

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-06 01:27:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: your_neighbor (#78)

get this "words thing" so right without a bunch of East coast Jewish Harvard educated cultural dumpster diving sewer tramps telling her how to do it?

What makes you think that she is doing anything without a bunch of East coast Jewish Harvard educated cultural dumpser diving sewer tramps telling her how to do it?

She's doing it just as Edward Bernays (Jewish, nephew of Freud) said to do to sway public opinion and master perception management. Who do you think runs the best PR in this nation? Or do you think Saint Sarah is handling the PR campaign for her image and book tour on her own? lol

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-06 01:36:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: your_neighbor, abraxas (#78)

National Review Criticism of Palin

When Palin first emerged as John McCain’s running mate, I confess I was delighted. She was the antithesis and nemesis of the hirsute, Birkenstock-wearing sisterhood — a refreshing feminist of a different order who personified the modern successful working mother.

Palin didn’t make a mess cracking the glass ceiling. She simply glided through it.

It was fun while it lasted.

Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I’ve been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I’ve also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there’s not much content there . Here’s but one example of many from her interview with Hannity: “Well, there is a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we’re talking about today. And that’s something that John McCain, too, his track record, proving that he can work both sides of the aisle, he can surpass the partisanship that must be surpassed to deal with an issue like this.”

When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama’s numbers, Palin blustered wordily: “I’m not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who’s more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who’s actually done it?”

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

What to do?

McCain can’t repudiate his choice for running mate. He not only risks the wrath of the GOP’s unforgiving base, but he invites others to second-guess his executive decision-making ability. Barack Obama faces the same problem with Biden.

Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.

— Kathleen Parker is a nationally syndicated columnist.

© 2008, Washington Post Writers Group

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-06 01:43:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: your_neighbor (#78)

who went to 6 collages in five years,

There's a red flag right there. Did she graduate from any of them?

Bill D Berger  posted on  2009-12-07 10:03:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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