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Title: A Message From The Taliban: Who Is Responsible for the Anarchy in Afghanistan?
Source: ICH
URL Source: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24128.htm
Published: Dec 7, 2009
Author: Taliban
Post Date: 2009-12-07 00:32:19 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 218
Comments: 13

A Message From The Taliban Who Is Responsible for the Anarchy in Afghanistan?

By Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

December 06, 2009 "Information Clearing House" -- Dec, 04, 2009 -- Obama’s new strategy which is the result of the same mentality that wants to continue the occupation of Afghanistan by military means, will add to the anarchy prevailing in the country. In fact, Americans are responsible for the chaotic situation. They handed over power to notorious warlords, venal officials and mafia-linked governors;

But still, they claim that they want a clean government in Kabul while their convoys of logistics are escorted by some murderous militias involved in kidnapping and extortion of arbitrary taxes. There are hundreds of private unregistered militias in Afghanistan under the name of security guards who carry heroin in official vehicles. These militias have links with warlords who have hold over high government positions. They carry out their criminal activities with impunity.

The warlords usurp government and people’s lands and buildings. No one can ask them why. A government land in Shirpur, located to the north-east of the Kabul city is a good example on hand. Once a property of the Ministry of Defense, now it is a posh area usurped by the warlords who have built luxurious houses there. Karzai himself has granted 6000-7000 acres of lands to his favorites. Many drug-smugglers who had been sentenced to prison by court have been released by decrees of the President.

General Khudaidad, Minister of the Narcotic Campaign of the Kabul Administration has acknowledged in a press conference that US military officers had hands in drug trafficking. Abdul Jabbar Sabit, former attorney-general of the Kabul Administration, says he was not able to lay his hand on some notorious governors involved in drug-trafficking and bribery because they were protected by high-ups in the government. Ultimately, Abdul Jabar Sabit was forced to resign. American Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, many times has referred to Afghanistan as a Mafia State but she did not say that the Mafia State was their handiwork.

Independent analysts around the world believe that USA wants to keep a corrupt government installed in Kabul because this will provide a justification to maintain American military presence in the country. Similarly, on the one hand, the White House Security Advisor James Jones says there are fewer than 100 Al-qaeda members in Afghanistan and on the other hand, Obama sends 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. This high gap between words and deeds shows that America has other colonialist objectives in Afghanistan and in the region, ostensibly under the name of the so-called War on Terror. Furthermore, they claim that they want to resolve the Afghan issue through negotiation and reconciliation; but practically, they want Mujahideen to lay down arms and accept the Constitution conceived and framed by America and want to keep their bases in Afghanistan for a longer period. Thus under the ploy of negotiation, the White House wants to find a pretext to continue their occupation of Afghanistan.

The Afghans, particularly the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, has no agenda of meddling in the internal affairs of other countries and is ready to give legal guarantee if the foreign forces withdraw from Afghanistan. But the Mujahideen are not ready to allow foreign bases in Afghanistan or trade on the independence of the country. Ironically, after American invasion of Afghanistan, the country has been turned into a battle ground of rival intelligence agencies which are linked with the regime in Kabul and have hidden agendas against surrounding countries.

Bomb blasts in public places are the work of these agencies. The more the foreign troops stay in Afghanistan, the more such gruesome events will take place. In the present time, the Mujahideen are the only force which wants to release the Afghans and the country from being hostage in the cobweb of foreign agencies. With the victory of Mujahideen in Afghanistan, the whole region will take a breath of relief and the current bloodshed will come to an end. But it is responsibility of all who have free conscious to morally help Mujahideen to free the region from the vortex of the colonialist machinations.

Official website of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (Taliban).

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#1. To: abraxas (#0)

UPI 2001: Taliban's Mullah Omar Says OBL Decrees 'Null and Void'

by Arnaud de Borchgrave United Press International June 14, 2001 http://www.upi.com/september11/archive_detail.cfm?StoryID=1

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan, June 14 [2001] (UPI) -- Any fatwa (Islamic holy decree) issued by Osama Bin Laden, America's most wanted alleged terrorist, declaring "jihad," or holy war, against the United States and ordering Muslims to kill Americans is "null and void," according to Taliban's supreme leader

"Bin Laden is not entitled to issue fatwas as he did not complete the mandatory 12 years of Koranic studies to qualify for the position of mufti," said Mullah Mohammad Omar Akhund, known to every Afghan as amir-ul- mumineen (supreme leader of the faithful).

He also said the Islamic Emirate, as the Taliban (students) regime calls itself, has "offered the United States and the United Nations to place international monitors to observe Osama pending the resolution of the case, but so far we have received no reply."

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-07   1:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AGAviator (#1)

Here's another article relating to the Taliban & OBL:

Obama Lied: Taliban Did Not Refuse to Hand Over Bin Laden

By Ralph Lopez

December 05, 2009 "OpEd News" -- Obama slipped past a real doozy Tuesday night when he said the Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden. It just ain't so. They tried three times to open negotiations for this, but Bush refused each time. He wanted to bomb people so bad it hurt UK Guardian:

A senior Taliban minister has offered a last-minute deal to hand over Osama bin Laden during a secret visit to Islamabad, senior sources in Pakistan told the Guardian last night...

For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a halt to the bombing, a source close to Pakistan's military leadership said.

The Taliban have offered to hand over Bin Laden before but only if sufficient evidence was presented. Bin Laden is wanted both for the September 11 attacks and for masterminding the bombings of two US embassies in East Africa in 1998 in which 224 people were killed. He is also suspected of involvement in other terrorist attacks, including the suicide bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last year.

But until now the Taliban regime has consistently said it has not seen any convincing evidence to implicate the Saudi dissident in any crime.

"Now they have agreed to hand him over to a third country without the evidence being presented in advance," the source close to the military said."

Combined with so unhesitatingly waving the Al Qaeda boogey-man to make his case, in a fashion Bush would have been proud of, (Al Qaeda isn't in Afghanistan) it all makes me mighty suspicious. The Taliban wasn't declared an enemy until after 9/11, even as we had evidence that bin Laden was behind the bombing of the USS Cole. That's because Bush's buddies were still hoping to get the contract for the oil pipeline, which the Taliban government was refusing to give them. These are just facts, I'm not even trying to make an argument here. But someone has to call them on these things.

The history is at the classic essay by Richard Behan which went viral on the internet soon after it was published (re-printed at Afterdowningstreet.org ):

From its first days in office in January of 2001 the Administration of George W. Bush meant to launch military attacks against both Afghanistan and Iraq. The reasons had nothing to do with terrorism.

This is beyond dispute. The mainstream press has either ignored the story or missed it completely, but the Administration's congenital belligerence is fully documented elsewhere.

Attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked, however, directly violates the charter of the United Nations. It is an international crime. The Bush Administration would need credible justification to proceed with its plans.

The terrorist violence of September 11, 2001 provided a spectacular opportunity. In the cacophony of outrage and confusion, the Administration could conceal its intentions, disguise the true nature of its premeditated wars, and launch them. The opportunity was exploited in a heartbeat.

Within hours of the attacks, President Bush declared the U.S. "...would take the fight directly to the terrorists," and "...he announced to the world the United States would make no distinction between the terrorists and the states that harbor them." [1] Thus the "War on Terror" was born.

The "War on Terror" is patently fraudulent, but the essence of successful propaganda is repetition, and the Bush Administration has repeated its mantra endlessly:

The War on Terror was launched in response to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It is intended to enhance our national security at home, and to spread democracy in the Middle East.

This is the struggle of our lifetime; we are defending our way of life from an enemy intent on destroying our freedoms. We must fight the enemy in the Middle East, or we will fight him in our cities.

The Administration's campaign of propaganda has been a notable success. The characterization of today's war as a "fight against terrorists and states that support them" is generally accepted, rarely scrutinized, and virtually unchallenged, even by opponents of the war.

The fraudulence of the "War on Terror," however, is clearly revealed in the pattern of subsequent facts:

In Afghanistan the state was overthrown instead of apprehending the terrorist: Osama bin Laden remains at large. In Iraq, when the U.S. invaded, there were no terrorists at all. Both states have been supplied with puppet governments, and both are dotted with permanent U.S. military bases in strategic proximity to their hydrocarbon assets. The U.S. embassy nearing completion in Baghdad is comprised of 21 multistory buildings on 104 acres of land. It will house 5,500 diplomats, staff, and families. It is ten times larger than any other U.S. embassy in the world, but we have yet to be told why. A 2006 National Intelligence Estimate shows the war in Iraq has exacerbated, not diminished, the threat of terrorism since 9/11.[2] If the "War on Terror" is not a deception, it is a disastrously counterproductive failure. Today two American and two British oil companies are poised to claim immense profits from 81% of Iraq's undeveloped crude oil reserves.[3] They cannot proceed, however, until the Iraqi Parliament enacts a statute known as the "hydrocarbon law." The features of postwar oil policy so heavily favoring the oil companies were crafted by the Bush Administration State Department in 2002, a year before the invasion.[4] Drafting of the law itself was begun during Paul Bremer's Coalition Provisional Authority, with the invited participation of the oil companies.[5] The law was written in English and translated into Arabic only when it was due for Iraqi approval. President Bush made passage of the hydrocarbon law a mandatory "benchmark" when he announced the troop surge in January of 2007...

Let us get this straight. We're going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong?

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-07   1:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: abraxas (#0)

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=111467

What I think is most interesting, is how in fact that for the last 8 years this ghost called Bin Laden, or Tim Osman as he's been called in the past, has managed to remain invisible to any and all people. With Millions of dollars in reward money bandied about, fame and riches for handing over Bin Laden, NOBODY has been willing to do so.

Why is that? Is it because that Bin Laden is dead and nobody has seen him? Is it because people are afraid to turn him over? If you gave me 5 million dollars in gold, I could make a lot of friends overnight who would give their lives to protect me. For that kind of money, you could buy enough arms and land to protect a city, and yet not one person, not one CREDIBLE source has given this guy up.

8 years is a long time to be broke, poor, and malnourished in a land where all there is, is rocks and goats.

Yet we're to believe that Bin Laden, who is supposedly alive, can funnel information from his home in Hermosa Beach, California to people all over the world for Al Jazeera to play at his behest?

I do not believe that Osama Bin Laden ever existed. I don't believe the lies that the television and media parrot. The man has been a construct, a fabrication if you will for the last decade. Especially since at one time in his life, the CIA knew him as Tim Osman.

If he is given to a third party country, I guarantee you that it'll make news to embarass the Chimpskate In Chief.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-12-07   3:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: abraxas (#2) (Edited)

The Administration's campaign of propaganda (against Afghanistan) has been a notable success.

Wrongfully implies that US as a nation wants the war when its really Israel's agents and its lobby that carried out the successful propaganda campaign to neutralize one of Israel's enemies. There's no colonial or other purpose for US to be in Afghanistan because under occupation conditions for doing business would be too hazardous. Zionist agents have succeeded in their propaganda efforts not only in the US but in 50 other countries which have sent forces to Afghanistan.

The USSR did not deploy troops in the '80's in Afghanistan from its Warsaw Pact countries but they are all there now, seemingly oblivious to the Jews that have conned them into fighting were of the same kind that subjected them to hardships during the Soviet era and that those Jews "of the worst kind" have now been purged from Russia.

http://dprogram.net/2009/12/06/t...-nato-war-in-afghanistan/

Tatarewicz  posted on  2009-12-07   3:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

What I think is most interesting, is how in fact that for the last 8 years this ghost called Bin Laden, or Tim Osman as he's been called in the past, has managed to remain invisible to any and all people. With Millions of dollars in reward money bandied about, fame and riches for handing over Bin Laden, NOBODY has been willing to do so.

The Pashtun people there have a culture thousands of years old which emphasizes honor and supporting your kinsmen and tribe above all else. They are not sell outs. They are tough as nails, and have finished off one empire over another for millenia, whenever the empires are foolish enough to go into their mountainous territory.

They also have a very good understanding, and a disdain for, the moral weakness of the West that thinks it can buy people like them off.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-07   3:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AGAviator (#5)

Moral weakness? Moral weakness is when you know something and do NOTHING that can change things.

If you think that I myself am morally bankrupt you are incorrect. I myself cannot be bought and sold, however there are PLENTY Of turncoats in the Arab world, and the muslim world who live in horrific poverty, who have been victims of their oppressive rulers who I am positive would like a shot at a better life.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-12-07   12:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#6)

Moral weakness? Moral weakness is when you know something and do NOTHING that can change things.

Anybody who thinks he can buy and sell someone is talking just as much about himself and his own price as his target's.

If you think that I myself am morally bankrupt you are incorrect. I myself cannot be bought and sold, however there are PLENTY Of turncoats in the Arab world, and the muslim world who live in horrific poverty, who have been victims of their oppressive rulers who I am positive would like a shot at a better life.

Pushtuns are not Arabs. Not even close. They are ethnically, lingusitically, and culturally different. The fact that you lump them with Arabs shows you have a very great lack of knowledge - I am being tactful here - about the subjet.

Bottom line is Pushtuns run up and down 14,000 foot mountains all day long, and know their history of wearing down one invader after another, and they very correctly take the offers of money as a sign of weakness, that America does not have the courage to go after OBL itself, and instead wants to buy someone else to do the hard work. After all, if America is willing to spend $25 million to get OBL, why aren't there Americans who are chasing those dollars?

Anywhere in the Middle East are also plenty of people in the who will take your money, tear it up, throw it in your face, and spit at you and probably stick a knife into you at the same time. The fact that you think that one type predominates says just as much about you as about the people you judge.

Just how the hell is the US still fighting a war that was supposed to be a "cakewalk" 8 years ago if the majority is like you allege?

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-08   1:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TommyTheMadArtist, bluegrass, wudidiz, Original_Intent, christine (#6)

Pashtunwali, the Code of Honor of the Pashtuns, has been around for thousands of years and pre-dates Islam. It has a lot more tradition behind it than anything from America, which makes it highly unlikely these people are going to sell out to the United States.

Pashtunwali - The Code of The Pashtuns

*Melmastia (hospitality) - Showing hospitality and profound respect to all visitors, regardless of distinctions of race, religion, national affiliation as well as economic status and doing so without any hope of remuneration or favour. Pushtuns are widely considered to be the most hospitable people in the world and a pushtun will go to great extents to show his hospitality, so much so, that in very many recorded cases it has been observed that a pushtuns have even provided enemies with sanctuary.

*Badal (justice/revenge) - to seek justice over time or over space to avenge a wrong. This applies to injustices committed yesterday or 1000 years ago if the wrongdoer still exists. Justice in Pashtun lore needs elaborating: even a mere taunt (or "Paighor") is regarded as an insult - which can only usually be redressed by shedding of the taunter's blood (and if he isn't available, then his next closest male relation). This in turn leads to a blood feud that can last generations and involve whole tribes with the loss of hundreds of lives. Normally blood feuds in this all male dominated setup are then settled in a number of ways.

*Nanawateh (asylum) - derived from the verb meaning to go in, this is used for protection given to a person who requests protection against his/her enemies. The person is protected at all costs. It can also be used when the vanquished party is prepared to go in to the house of the victors and ask for their forgiveness. (Is a peculiar form of "chivalrous" surrender, in which an enemy seeks "sanctuary" at his enemies house). A more famous example of this code is of Navy Petty Officer First Class (PO1) Marcus Luttrell, the sole surviving member of a US Navy SEAL team that was ambushed by Taliban fighters. PO1 Luttrell evaded the enemy for days before stumbling upon members of the Sabray tribe who realized the wounded SEAL needed assistance. He was taken to the village and protected by the tribal chief, who even sent word to nearby US forces of PO1 Luttrell's location.

*Zemaka (land/earth) - A Pashtun must defend his land/property from incursions wherever he or she might reside.

*Nang (honour) - the various points below that a tribesman must observe to ensure his honour, and that of his family, is upheld. The preservation of honour entails the defence of one's family and one's independence, while upholding cultural and religious requirements.

*Namus (Honor of women) - A Pushtun must defend the honor of Pashtun women at all costs and must protect them from vocal and physical harm.

*Hewad (nation) - Love for one's nation in Pashtun culture isn't just important, it's essential. A Pashtun is always indebted to their nation and must strive to perfect and improve it. A Pushtun considers it his obligation to defend his country Pakhtara ("Pakhtun-khwa" in modern colloquial Pashto) against any type of foreign incursion. Defence of nation means defence of honor, values, culture, tradition, countrymen and self.

*Dod-pasbani (Protecting Pashtun culture) - It is obligatory for a Pashtun to protect Pashtun culture from dilution and disintegration. Pashtunwali advises that in order to successfully accomplish this, a Pashtun must retain the Pashto language since Pashto is the prime source of Pashtun culture and its understanding isn't just important but essential. Not being able to speak Pashto is often translated by Pashtun society as the inability to understand Pashtun culture, values, ethics, history and community.

*Tokhm-pasbani (Protecting the Pashtun race) - Pashtuns with their distinct Afghan features are often immediately recognizable. Pashtuns must take another Pashtun as a marriage partner. This stems from the general belief that 'half- Pashtuns' do not retain Pashtun language, culture, and physical features.

*De Pashtunwali Perawano (Adhering to Pashtunwali) - In order to keep one's descendants from becoming "durvand" (Non-Pashtuns), a Pashtun must adhere to the Pashtunwali principles of culture, kin and pedigree. Those who do not will ultimately face revulsion and expulsion from Pashtun society.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-08   2:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AGAviator (#8)

Interesting, thank you.

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wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-08   3:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AGAviator (#8)

Just so you understand, your insults and your educational post were unnecessary. There are plenty of people who are not Pashtuni who know where Osama Bin Laden is. There have to be, because Al Jazeera has a lot of people who not only support it, but work for it who are NOT Pashtuni, who are treacherous enough to betray the man for money.

I'm a little more well read than most. I am well aware of the mettle that the people you talk about have. They make their own weapons, they don't buy them. There are cities dedicated to nothing but arms manufacturing. There was an independent documentary on one particular city that was completely mindblowing. There were kids making guns, bullets, explosives, you name it from raw materials.

That's ALL they do in that region. After having seen that documentary it's no wonder that the rest of the middle east seems to have little to no problem acquiring weapons.

I just wish I had access to some of that hardware, because for less than $1000.00 I could have bought crates of AK's and enough ammunition to field an army. I'll try to find the documentary and post it. I think you'd find it interesting as well.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-12-08   14:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#10)

Just so you understand, your insults and your educational post were unnecessary

I was not intending to insult you, but I do think I came on too strong in this discussion.

There are plenty of people who are not Pashtuni who know where Osama Bin Laden is.

I don't believe that, because OBL's people are trained with the expectation they will be captured and tortured. As far as the people not in his organization, I think they know how to look the other way so they will not have any information anybody would want to extract from them. Appearing too interested in anybody else's business is a way to quickly get killed in these parts.

I am well aware of the mettle that the people you talk about have. They make their own weapons, they don't buy them. There are cities dedicated to nothing but arms manufacturing. There was an independent documentary on one particular city that was completely mindblowing.

Darra Adam Khel is one place. There are gunsmiths who are proud of their ability to replicate any weapon including RPG's.

However my point is not that they are so well-armed, but they're fiercely proud and aware of their history and cultural identity which is thousands of years old. America offering money to them is both an insult and an admission of weakness, and it will take a great stroke of luck for anyone to succeed. Although I'm sure that the US is mapping and exploring the entire region inch by inch from the air and at times from the ground if they can insert and extract people.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-08   23:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AGAviator (#11)

Darra Adam Khei is the place I was talking about. It's not just about the Armaments at all. The character of the people is also equally resilient and tough. I think that if the right person were to lead those people, they would be a formidable force for good in the region. I truly do.

Culturally they may be completely different than everyone else in the world, but there are some things that are universally human. The desire to be happy, and healthy, and free from want or worry.

I wish these people the best of luck. They're not my enemy, and I'm pretty sure that they never have been.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-12-09   0:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#12)

I think that if the right person were to lead those people, they would be a formidable force for good in the region. I truly do.

I've known about the place for a long time, but when I looked it up in Wiki the article said it is controlled by the Afridi tribe of the Pushtuns.

The Afridis are especially noted among the Pashtuns for being fierce fighters, they successfully attacked the British many times, and also smugglers and being generally treacherous.

The best chance of a leader the Pashtuns had was Abdul Haq who was captured and killed just after 911. The CIA did not support him enough, they called him "Hollywood Haq" even though he never sought publicity, they wanted to show that America with its high tech army could succeed where the Red Army had failed.

Right now things are too chaotic for anybody to unify them, I think. They will united against outside invaders however IMO.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-09   0:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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