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Title: This Day In History. Al Gore Loses His 2000 Bid For President. Bush Wins His First Term.
Source: storyballoon
URL Source: http://storyballoon.org/videos/this ... dent-bush-wins-his-first-term/
Published: Dec 13, 2009
Author: storyballoon
Post Date: 2009-12-13 11:37:39 by rotgut
Keywords: bushmtrushmore, bushnationalmonument, bushairport, obamacommiecoon
Views: 464
Comments: 42

The rest is history. He is still my President. The current chimp in charge can go eat bananas.

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#1. To: rotgut (#0)

The current chimp in charge can go eat bananas.

......... how about cyanide, arsenic, or Gila monster venom?

;-)

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-13   11:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rotgut, all (#0)

The current chimp in charge can go eat bananas.

Why don't you like George W. Obama? He's continuing and expanding nearly every single program of your messiah. You are a partisan hypocrite and no different than the Democans who bitched and moaned about William Jefferson Bush, even though William Jefferson Bush grew the size of government more than any president since LBJ. William Jefferson Bush grew the size of government in ways that George H.W. Clinton could only dream of. All with your complete backing comrade.

If you or the Democans had any moral convictions whatsoever, you would be singing the praises of George W. Obama and the Democans would have sang the praises of William Jefferson Bush before him. Instead, you partisan shills show the world your moral degeneracy.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   12:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rotgut (#0)

pick your chimp!

back again, gar? you seriously have issues.

christine  posted on  2009-12-13   12:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#3)

you seriously have issues.

Ya think?????? :P

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-12-13   12:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#2)

If you think Bablack Obama is the same as Bush, you are truly as delusional as the idiots who think "he is just trying to clean up Bush's mess," with measures such as his health care and environmental proposals.

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   12:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: rotgut (#5)

If you think Bablack Obama is the same as Bush, you are truly as delusional as the idiots who think "he is just trying to clean up Bush's mess," with measures such as his health care and environmental proposals.

LOL! Healthcare. Can you say prescription drugs for geezers? So that's what you have to sink to? Environmental laws and health care? LOL! The only difference between the spending of George W. Obama and William Jefferson Bush is where they are spending their money and expanding the governments reach into our lives.

Once again, you are a partisan shill whose only complaint about big spending and government expansion is that the money isn't being spent where you want it and that he's expanding government in places you don't like. You want the warfare state without the welfare state and George W. Obama is giving you both.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   12:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine, rotgut (#3)

back again, gar? you seriously have issues.

Most partisan big government shills do. That's why they cannot make it on their own and demand that daddy government take care of them.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   12:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#6)

Can you say prescription drugs for geezers?

And you equate that with a complete take over of the health care system by the government.

delusional

The only difference between the spending of George W. Obama and William Jefferson Bush is where they are spending their money and expanding the governments reach into our lives.

Bush introduced a few governmental programs, as he pretty much campaigned to do. The HNIC is attempting a complete takeover of private industry by the government. A shame you can't see the difference.

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   13:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rotgut (#8)

Bush introduced a few governmental programs, as he pretty much campaigned to do.

Really? Let's look at the truth here:

Spending Under President George W. Bush

During his eight years in office, President Bush oversaw a large increase in government spending. In fact, President Bush increased government spending more than any of the six presidents preceding him, including LBJ. In his last term in office, President Bush increased discretionary outlays by an estimated 48.6 percent.

During his eight years in office, President Bush spent almost twice as much as his predecessor, President Clinton. Adjusted for inflation, in eight years, President Clinton increased the federal budget by 11 percent. In eight years, President Bush increased it by a whopping 104 percent.

One reason offered for these large budget increases is that entitlement programs are growing rapidly. Although Social Security and Medicare spending growth outpaced most other programs in the mid-1990s, spending growth in discretionary programs has accelerated in the last 15 years, especially during Bush’s two terms. Between FY2002 and FY2009, discretionary spending rose 96 percent.

Some argue that federal spending during the Bush years was so high because security needs drove up the budget. It is true that defense spending increased dramatically since the late-1990s, particularly since 9/11 and the beginning of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, nondefense spending increased too. Some also argue that much of the increase in nondefense spending stemmed from increases in homeland security spending. Whether this is true, the overall rapid rise of discretionary spending indicates that, here too, the administration and Congress made no trade-offs in the budget. If the administration and Congress wanted more security spending and wanted to be fiscally responsible, they should have found savings elsewhere in the budget.

President Bush added thousands of new federal subsidy programs during his eight years in office. In 2008, there were 1,816 subsidy programs in the federal budget that spread hundreds of billions of dollars annually to special interest groups such as state governments, businesses, nonprofit groups, and individuals. The number of subsidy programs has grown by 30 percent since 2000 and by 54 percent since 1990.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   13:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rotgut (#8) (Edited)

And you equate that with a complete take over of the health care system by the government.

delusional

The only difference between the spending of George W. Obama and William Jefferson Bush is where they are spending their money and expanding the governments reach into our lives.

Bush introduced a few governmental programs, as he pretty much campaigned to do. The HNIC is attempting a complete takeover of private industry by the government. A shame you can't see the difference.

Once again, your complaint isn't that George W. Obama is spending money and expanding the power of government but that he's a Democan and doing it in areas you disagree with. By your own words you prove that you are nothing more than a partisan dirtbag that doesn't have the interests of the U.S. in mind but instead thinks only about the interests of your party.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   13:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)

Some argue that federal spending during the Bush years was so high because security needs drove up the budget. It is true that defense spending increased dramatically since the late-1990s, particularly since 9/11 and the beginning of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, nondefense spending increased too. Some also argue that much of the increase in nondefense spending stemmed from increases in homeland security spending. Whether this is true

You're using a source that doesn't even know "whether this is true"?

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   13:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rotgut (#11)

You're using a source that doesn't even know "whether this is true"?

Your pathetic attempt to take the authors words out of context is duly noted and only proves that you have no argument.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   13:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#12)

Your pathetic attempt to take the authors words out of context

I'm taking things EXACTLY in context.

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   13:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: rotgut (#11)

Pick nits on some other forum, dude.

Junior was as big a socialist as his predecessors. Don't a meteorologist to tell me which way the wind is blowing, and I don't need need references to know where George was at either.

randge  posted on  2009-12-13   13:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: rotgut (#11)

You're using a source that doesn't even know "whether this is true"?

lol...Your sources would use "weather" intstead of whether.

The paragraph discusses what "some argue" are the reasons for Bush spending like a flaming liberal, expanding big government ad nauseum, and leaving this nation in a stinking pile of debt. I'm sure Bush butt kissers like yourself would defend his spending, expansion of government and huge pile of debt, hence the arguement as to "whether this is true" or not.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   13:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: rotgut (#13)

I'm taking things EXACTLY in context.

You are liar. But then that is par for course for you and the rest of the two-party fraud. Or maybe you are just uneducated and/or stupid. That would explain your continued attempt to justify the big spending Republicrat party by pointing to the Democans.

The author is not declaring that she is unsure or doesn't know, she is using a common grammatical phrase that means that it doesn't matter one way or the other - it's not germane to her argument. She then continues on with why it's not germane to her argument.

Quit being disingenuous.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   13:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: abraxas (#15)

lol...Your sources would use "weather" intstead of whether.

The paragraph discusses what "some argue" are the reasons for Bush spending like a flaming liberal, expanding big government ad nauseum, and leaving this nation in a stinking pile of debt. I'm sure Bush butt kissers like yourself would defend his spending, expansion of government and huge pile of debt, hence the arguement as to "whether this is true" or not.

He's trying to deflect attention away from the subject of the article because it is so damning for the Bush administration.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   13:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: abraxas (#15)

Bush was always for no child left behind and prescription drugs and had been campaigning on such things all the way back to Texas. The wild card was 911 and the resulting measures afterward.

Keep thinking your new HNIC is no different if you want. There's no getting through to people with terminal BDS.

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   13:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: rotgut (#18)

Keep thinking your new HNIC is no different if you want. There's no getting through to people with terminal BDS.

Sheesh, I see very little difference between puppet Bush and puppet Obama. Both are whores for Goldman Sachs, the military industrial complex and the medical industrial complex.

You're the only one making a feeble attempt to argue that there's a big difference between the former and latter puppet heading up the executive. Thinking people realize that Bush paved the way for much of what Obama is implementing today.

I have no terminal BDS or OBS--both are puppets. Only idiots like yourself continue to rant and rage as if there's a difference.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   14:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: abraxas (#19) (Edited)

Only idiots like yourself continue to rant and rage as if there's a difference.

There can be no meaningful discussion with anyone that believes we have a two party system and or does not understand that the government of the elite is the enemy.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-13   14:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: abraxas (#19)

Bush never advocated a government takeover of private business. Hussein Obama eagerly embraces it.

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   14:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#20)

There can be no meaningful discussion with anyone that believes we have a two party and or does not understand that the government of the elite is the enemy.

You're right Cyni. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   14:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: rotgut (#5)

fifty screen names, you and rest of the bushbots should be worshiping obammy just for keeping your idol baalzabush's scam going.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-12-13   14:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: rotgut (#21)

Bush never advocated a government takeover of private business. Hussein Obama eagerly embraces it.

Oh really, then what the hell was he advocating when he signed off on $750 billion taxdollars to bail out bankers? This policy MANDATED that banks take the money--how is that not government taking over private business decisions? Was that his big rally cry for the "free market"? For 8 years, he subsidized big business with our taxdollars. This is fascism, which you seem to support as long as Bush is doing it.

What about Bush mandating that the telcoms turn over data on private citizens? Was this not the government taking over aspects of private business? Obama is equally as eager to carry on WHAT BUSH BEGAN.

NCLB was a farce to take power from the states and give it to the feds to control eduation, but you have no problem with that while you cheerlead the complete failure and pissing on the 10th Amendment. An obvious government takeover of state rights, embraced eagerly by Bush and minions like yourself.

Bush centralized power in the executive, so whatever Obama does with this power grab be sure to send a thank you note to GW Bush for making it all possible.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   14:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: abraxas (#24)

rotgut, AKA longnose gar, padlock, fifty yard line, sardine sandwich, happy fun ball to name but a few is living proof that the dumbing down of America through the public (read federal government) school system is a total success.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-12-13   14:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas (#24)

Oh really, then what the hell was he advocating when he signed off on $750 billion taxdollars to bail out bankers

Did he spend his entire effin Presidency advocating such things? That happened in the last months of his Presidency when he was told by Paulson and Bernanke that if he didn't sign off on it, the banking system was in danger of imminent collapse. And while I was never in favor of it, it appears that TARP was a successful endeavor, unlike the HNIC's porkulus.

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   14:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: abraxas (#24)

whatever Obama does with this power grab be sure to send a thank you note to GW Bush for making it all possible.

Direct and to the point, I like that.

I go back to Roosevelt, and the rest since, in that time, Bush did more harm to this country than any of the others, in fact perhaps all of them added together.

I recall when this country was indeed nearly 100 per cent free from the Federal Government. Now, they intrude into every facet of our daily life.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-13   14:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: rotgut (#26) (Edited)

Did he spend his entire effin Presidency advocating such things?

Yes, which is why we ended up in dire straights just a few months before ol' Bush swaggered back to Texas. It's not as it the entire thing snuck up on this nation, it was a systematic lack of oversight, bribes, and pay backs for getting elected that led this sorry state. One that Obama continues, but Bush and Clinton and Bush Sr. paved the way.

Bush was all for no-bid contracts to pay back his election donors, all for susidizing his election donors, all for taking a stand for failed businesses like Enron. For 8 years, his policy was no accountability and no transparency-- no wonder Obama could so easily walk in and sell this line of BS to the public. Thanks GW.

His ENTIRE EFFING PRESIDENCY was about whoring for bankers, big pharma and the military industrial complex. Not a day passed when Bush didn't bend over for fascism.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   14:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: abraxas (#28)

Bush spent 7 years begging Congress for mortgage reform (which he never got) and that was the crux of the problem.

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   14:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: rotgut (#29)

Bush spent 7 years begging Congress for mortgage reform (which he never got) and that was the crux of the problem.

DERIVATIVES and CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS are the crux of the problem. Bush never mentioned them because he was busy whoring for Goldman Sachs and crew.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   15:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#27)

Now, they intrude into every facet of our daily life.

So true. It could only happen in "the land of the free" with more than a million laws and regulations on the books.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   15:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: abraxas (#30)

DERIVATIVES and CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS

Which all "derived" from the FNMA and FMAC issues.

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   15:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: rotgut (#32)

Which all "derived" from the FNMA and FMAC issues.

Bovine excrement. You don't even know what a derivative or a credit default swap is, do you? You have no idea how bonds are rated, do you? You have no idea of the money exchanged in the derivative and CDS scams do you? It's estimated at $500 trillion dollars.

Meanwhile, the total of ALL US MORTGAGES, including commercial, in 2006 was $7 trillion.

Tell me how a a $7 trillions in mortgage debt, much of it sound and secure, morphed into a $500 TRILLION dollar problem.

Making loans to poor people consitutes less than the $750 billion used to bail out the bankers. The FNMA and FMAC issues don't even begin to scratch the surface of the $500 trillion dollar problem.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   15:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: rotgut (#32)

DERIVATIVES and CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS

Which all "derived" from the FNMA and FMAC issues.

document the all of which you post or add a tag line to your posts stating what a lying shill you are for baalzabush and his pals xlinton and obammy.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2009-12-13   15:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: IRTorqued (#25)

rotgut, AKA longnose gar, padlock, fifty yard line, sardine sandwich, happy fun ball to name but a few is living proof that the dumbing down of America through the public (read federal government) school system is a total success.

Testify!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-12-13   15:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: rotgut, all (#18)

Bush was always for no child left behind and prescription drugs and had been campaigning on such things all the way back to Texas. The wild card was 911 and the resulting measures afterward.

There is much more to the story than this. The so-called conservative talking heads such as Limpballs, as well as some so-called conservative forums like Friek Repugnant were telling everyone that Bush was "out democrating" the democrats and that his liberalism was a sham to get the moderate vote. Dozens and dozens of folks were booted off of Friek Repugnant for calling bullshit on this, while the overwhelming majority bought into it - the same way that the majority bought into the bullshit that Obama = change.

But then as a partisan of the two party fraud, you already know this and as always are being disingenuous.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   15:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#36)

Bush was always for no child left behind and prescription drugs and had been campaigning on such things all the way back to Texas.

Even this statement is disingenuous. Here is a more truthful turn of phrasing:

Bush was always for concentrated FEDERAL power, especially in the executive, and BIG PHARMA whom he whored for tirelessly from Texas to the WH and back to Texas again.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-13   15:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: abraxas (#37)

Even this statement is disingenuous. Here is a more truthful turn of phrasing:

Bush was always for concentrated FEDERAL power, especially in the executive, and BIG PHARMA whom he whored for tirelessly from Texas to the WH and back to Texas again.

That about sums it up. Both parties are central planning collectivists who abhor the idea of spontaneous order because they cannot control the outcome for themselves or the money men who bankroll them.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   15:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: abraxas (#33)

Stop your phony indignance.

This is all traceable back to the easy housing credit which Bush sent up warning signals about for 7 years.

Are you Barney frank's boyfriend?

rotgut  posted on  2009-12-13   15:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: rotgut (#39)

This is all traceable back to the easy housing credit which Bush sent up warning signals about for 7 years.

LOLOL! Poor, poor William Jefferson Bush. His party has complete control of the government for almost his entire two terms; he was able to get every piece of big government and police state legislation he advocated passed, but the poor man can't stop the easy housing credit.

LOL! U R A joke!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-13   16:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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