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Title: SCOTUS ruling means torture could return: civil rights group
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/supreme-court-torture-suit/
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Daniel Tencer
Post Date: 2009-12-15 06:51:50 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 86
Comments: 5

gitmo SCOTUS ruling means torture could return: civil rights groupThe United States Supreme Court on Monday refused to hear an appeal by four former Guantanamo inmates who want to sue the US government for torture they say they endured during their stay at the prison camp, a move the inmates' lawyers say could pave the way for future torture practices by the US military.

The four plaintiffs -- Rhuhel Ahmed, Jamal al-Harith, Asif Iqbal and Shafiq Rasul -- say they were subjected to numerous forms of physical abuse and religious humiliation, including having their beards shaved, being threatened with dogs and being placed in cells that were alternately very hot or very cold. The lawsuit also alleges that one of the guards at Guantanamo flushed a Koran down the toilet to anger and humiliate the prisoners. One of the inmates, Ahmed, has also alleged "sexual abuse."

Three of the detainees -- Ahmed, Iqbal and Rasul -- are British residents who say they were in Afghanistan in 2001 to provide humanitarian relief in the wake of the US invasion when they were kidnapped by Afghan warlord Rashid Dostum, a US ally, and accused of belonging to Al Qaeda.

The fourth inmate, Al-Harith, says he was in Pakistan on a religious retreat when he was kidnapped by the Taliban and taken to a prison in Afghanistan. When the Taliban fled and US forces seized the prison, Al-Harith was taken into US custody. All four were transferred to Guantanamo by the US military and spent more than two years there before being returned to the UK.

With the help of the Center for Constitutional Rights, the four men have been fighting to sue former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and 10 other military officials since 2004. After a federal appeals court in Washington, DC, rejected their lawsuit in 2008, the Supreme Court ordered the lower court to reconsider its ruling, in light of another Supreme Court ruling, earlier that year, that Guantanamo inmates had constitutional protection. Story continues below...

When the case returned to the lower court, the Obama administration argued against the plaintiffs, saying that former Guantanamo detainees don't have any constitutional rights. And even if they did, the administration argued, the defendants should be immune from prosecution because the Supreme Court hadn't yet ruled that detainees have rights at the time the alleged abuses took place.

The lower court accepted this argument and quashed the lawsuit yet again. On Monday, the Supreme Court effectively upheld that ruling by refusing to hear the appeal.

"It is an awful day for the rule of law and common decency when the Supreme Court lets stand such an inhuman decision," said Eric Lewis, the lead attorney for the plaintiffs, in a statement from the CCR. "The final word on whether these men had a right not to be tortured or a right to practice their religion free from abuse is that they did not. Future prospective torturers can now draw comfort from this decision."

"Where can these men seek justice now for the terrible things that were done to them?" asked CCR attorney Shayana Kadidal. "The entire world recognizes that torture and religious humiliation are never permissible tools for a government, yet our highest court seems to think otherwise."

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

I have no problem with that. What goes around comes around. Matter of fact, I can think of a couple of "people" who could use some torturing, and it wouldn't cost the state a penny. All I'd need is a small can of Ronson lighter fluid and a couple of blue tip matches.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2009-12-15   7:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

When was the last time the supremes ruled in favor of the founding principles?


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-12-15   7:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ada (#0) (Edited)

This sort of information seems like terrorism. Threats, intimidation, scare tactics.

It says, "Fuck with us and this might happen to you.

We don't care if you're innocent or guilty. The Law won't protect you. The Courts won't protect you. Human Rights groups can't protect you.

Leave the safety of our culture and you might get fucked up.

See what we do to the 'Enemy'?

We don't care. We torture. We rape. We humiliate. We destroy.

We flaunt that we do it and we flaunt that we get away with it.

Just be glad it's not you.

Yet."

That's why there's an image of our Saviour nailed to a cross in every Church.

It's saying, "Fuck with us and this'll happen to you."

(Edited for punctuation)

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-15   7:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Critter (#2)

When was the last time the supremes ruled in favor of the founding principles?

To quote Nanci Pelosi " Are you serious "? (sarc)

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-12-15   9:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ada (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2009-12-15   15:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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