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Title: Somali Islamist rebels force men to grow beards
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://af.reuters.com/article/topNe ... Number=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: Ibrahim Mohamed and Abdi Guled
Post Date: 2009-12-19 13:47:01 by mirage
Keywords: None
Views: 96
Comments: 4

MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somalia's Islamist al Shabaab rebels on Saturday ordered men to grow long beards, shave their moustaches and wear their trousers above the ankle.

It is the first time in the lawless Horn of Africa country that the insurgents, who seek impose a strict form of Islamic sharia law, have focused on men's appearance, having previously ordered women to cover their entire bodies, and banned bras.

"We are ordering all men in Kismayu not to shave or trim their beards, but shave the moustache," Sheikh Ibrahim Garweyn, a senior Al Shabaab official for the public awareness in the southern Somali port town, told reporters on Saturday.

"We will never accept to see men with long beards and moustaches together. They have three days to follow the order."

The group, which Washington says is an al Qaeda proxy, has already banned musical ringtones, dancing at weddings and playing or watching soccer.

Al Shabaab has carried out executions, floggings and amputations to enforce its rulings, mainly Kismayu.

The group is battling the government of President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed for control of Mogadishu, and is fighting a another Islamist militia -- Hizbul Islam --in the provinces.

Al Shabaab also ordered men to wear their trousers above the ankle. "They have 15 days to follow the order," Garweyn said.

A two-and-a-half year insurgency has killed more than 19,000 civilians, displaced 1 million people, allowed piracy to flourish offshore and spread security fears in the region.

Somalia has lacked a functioning central government since 1991. Its transitional government controls little more than a few blocks of Mogadishu, with the rest carved up between Al Shabaab and Hizbul Islam.

FIGHTING NEAR KENYA BORDER

In a separate incident on Saturday, fighting between Al Shabaab and Hizbul Islam fighters near Dhobley close to the Kenyan border killed six people.

"I have seen dead people near Dhobley, two young men, Al Shabaab fighters. Also there are another four from the other side," said a resident who asked not to be named for security reasons.

Residents said Al Shabaab fighters had dug trenches in the town in what appeared to be defence lines against possible attacks from Kenya.

Kenya closed its border with Somalia in 2007 and has boosted patrols in recent months.

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#1. To: mirage (#0)

So they're going to force them to be Orthodox Jews then. Gotta grow that beard and keep it right?

Islam and Judaism are so similar on so many levels, and yet... They hate each other.

It's why I love organized religion. Everyone's special beliefs are always better than someone else's and they're all God's Chosen People.

I look forward to the afterlife. I truly do. There's going to be so many people who thought that God loved only them rotting in hell, while those of us who know we're unworthy of God's love might get saved.

Even if I don't, I'll be fortunate enough to openly mock all of those people who thought their faiths were better than everyone else's.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-12-19   13:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

It's why I love organized religion. Everyone's special beliefs are always better than someone else's and they're all God's Chosen People.

Yep. The best part is that if you do not follow their rules, they come and get you and make you obey.

COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!

mirage  posted on  2009-12-19   13:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mirage (#2)

If I find a desert island somewhere in the south pacific, and start a colony full of people who are useful who have common sense, it would be a paradise within a week.

The first thing I'd do, is ban organized religion. Let everyone believe what they want, but NO churches, and no assemblies for religion would be allowed. That's how this lunacy started.

Better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2009-12-19   13:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

Let everyone believe what they want, but NO churches, and no assemblies for religion would be allowed.

That's a little harsh. Then again my solution is equally harsh.

Organizations are fine - that's a freedom issue. However, the death penalty or months of community service for attempting to impose one's religious values on those outside of the group should be strictly enforced. The community service should be a minimum of six months of full-time labor and in Detroit.

The exception being a few of the Ten Commandments as follows:
You will not murder another human being.
You will not steal from another human being and double the penalties for fraud.
You will not bear false witness against your neighbor.

But then again, every 'civilized' society has implemented those above to which I would add one more:
Thou shalt not use the political process to extract goodies for thyself from thine neighbors.

COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!

mirage  posted on  2009-12-19   14:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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