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Title: Blackwater guards’ lawyers want nicknames kept from jury: ‘Savage,’
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Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/blackwater-g
Post Date: 2009-12-19 14:52:30 by tom007
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Blackwater guards’ lawyers want nicknames kept from jury: ‘Savage,’ ‘Extreme’

By John Byrne Friday, December 18th, 2009 -- 8:46 am Share on Facebook Stumble This!

blackwater 070919 mn1 Blackwater guards lawyers want nicknames kept from jury: Savage, ExtremeWhat do you think of the nickname "Murder?" Would it influence you as a juror in a murder trial? How about "Savage Viking" or "Extreme?"

The US Second Circuit Court of Appeals recently reversed an attempted murder conviction for a US gang member, citing what it called the prosecution's "gratuitous exploitation" of the defendant's nickname, "Murder." Now lawyers for two former Blackwater guards want to mount the same defense.

Lawyers for two of five Blackwater guards charged in the shooting deaths of 17 Iraqi civilians, killed in a shootout in September 2007, want their clients' nicknames stricken from use by prosecutors. Their nicknames, according to the lawyers' motion, are "Savage Viking" and "Extreme."

The lawyers want the nicknames for their clients -- Dustin Heard ("Extreme") and Paul Slough ("Savage Viking") barred from use by government prosecutors.

“A jury who hears evidence of these nicknames is very likely to unfairly and improperly infer that the nicknames reflect violent or belligerent character traits on the part of these defendants that makes them more likely to have committed the crimes with which they are charged,” defense lawyer David Schertler said, according to the law blog for Legal Times. Story continues below...

Schertler's motion is here.

The Justice Department hasn’t yet replied.

"In October, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit reversed an attempted murder conviction because of the prosecution’s 'gratuitous exploitation' of the defendant’s nickname 'Murder,'" Legal Times notes. "The court, which affirmed on other counts, including murder, ordered a new trial on the attempted murder charge."

Blackwater, a defense contractor involved in guarding US diplomats and others in Iraq, recently changed its name to Xe after a series of scandals.

Correction: Due to a reporting error, the nickname "Murder" was used by a gang member in the United States, not a Blackwater guard. It has been corrected in this edition. Share this article:

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Blackwater, a defense contractor involved in guarding US diplomats and others in Iraq, recently changed its name to Xe after a series of scandals.

wow! murder, rape, kidnapping and other acts of pure terrorism are but scandals when committed by prince and his dare I say henchmen.


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IRTorqued  posted on  2009-12-19   16:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IRTorqued (#1)

I think "henchmen" is the correct term - as are rape, murder, kidnapping and terrorism.

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Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-19   16:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: IRTorqued. all (#1)

wow! murder, rape, kidnapping and other acts of pure terrorism are but scandals when committed by prince and his dare I say henchmen.

Correct.

Tiger holing out on all those skanks is a scandal.

Xe's crimes are mostly punishable by death.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-19   16:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod, Original_Intent (#3)

but they were just such swell guys when baalzabush was the front man for the system, will their next write-up be referred to as chicanery?


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IRTorqued  posted on  2009-12-19   17:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IRTorqued (#4)

but they were just such swell guys when baalzabush was the front man for the system, will their next write-up be referred to as chicanery?

As Pills called it, "Frat-house pranks."

Nothing to see there, just guys having some fun.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-19   17:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: IRTorqued, Lod (#4)

Maybe they'll get really harsh and refer to it as "hanky-panky", "monkey-business", "knavery", or "shenanigans"?

Those Blackwater boys are such rogues. But just sooooooo cuddly. They wuz' "just blowing off a little steam".

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-19   17:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#5)

Great minds think alike. ;-)

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Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-19   17:46:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent. all (#7)

At least totally disgusted minds do.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-19   18:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: IRTorqued (#1)

wow! murder, rape, kidnapping and other acts of pure terrorism are but scandals when committed by prince and his dare I say henchmen.

Seems to be. On the same level as using a salad fork incorrectly.

The CIA were their paymasters.

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tom007  posted on  2009-12-19   21:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lod (#5)

Nothing to see there, just guys having some fun.

Letting off a little steam at Club Abu-Gerhab.

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tom007  posted on  2009-12-19   21:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tom007. all (#9)

On the same level as using a salad fork incorrectly.

lol - yes, just a childish error in etiquette.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-19   21:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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