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Title: The revolution will be won in a single day
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URL Source: http://www.johnkaminski.info/
Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: John Kaminski
Post Date: 2009-12-19 17:47:47 by Horse
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Views: 2895
Comments: 192

BUT WHO WILL SAVE THE JEWS ONCE THE WORLD LEARNS WHAT THEY’VE DONE?

The final revolution for human freedom will be won in a single day, not by bombs, famine, mass poisonings, or electronic vaporization, but by a few well chosen phrases uttered in exactly the right time and place, which will turn on a light that will illuminate the darkness of a beast that has afflicted us for more centuries than we can sensibly count.

It WILL occur in a single day, because the serpentine network of the beast engulfs the entire planet with its self-destructive blackmail avarice, and everyone everywhere will simultaneously realize that it is not the philosophy of profit that has turned our planet into a diseased cinder, but rather the policies of a certain collection of megalomaniacal fools who control every last dollar in the world, or damn near. It is they who are directly responsible for all this senseless mayhem and needless destruction, and it is us sheeple who are secondarily responsible for tolerating their evil mind control methods all these years.

We proles are only numbers in the ledger book of some rich Jewish crook tied into a worldwide network of shysters who strive to make us all half-dead zombies bound up in complex payment plans with no say in our fate.

All it will take to free us from this bizarre bonded indebtedness is to understand what Jews have done to the world over time, and how they are currently well advanced in their objective to either kill or enslave all the non-Jews of the world, thus fulfilling the commands of their secretive “holy book,” the Talmud — which is a psychological atrocity that has resulted in THEIR control over ALL the systems that control US.

Not to realize this is to guarantee your future as a mind-controlled slave, and quite likely, your impending and unnatural death.

What Jews have done to the world . . . what exactly have they done?

1. Social engineering of reality through editing of history.

From earliest times, the core criminals who later became known as Jews had the natural advantage of being itinerant merchants (caravansers), and their knowledge of multiple cultures imbued in them an experiential advantage over sedentary populations confined to one small town or country, who were, you might say, sitting ducks.

I’m genuinely sorry to tell many of you that the template for deception that has been followed all these years was the creation of Christianity in 325 AD, which taught everybody to turn the other cheek when the Hidden Hand reached into their pockets. It taught people to conceptualize their safety based upon a promise that could never be redeemed except in the manipulated imagination of the believer.

Belief in something that could not possibly be true is the same mental mechanism needed to believe that our current system of banking is an honest business.

The similarity of proposition, authority and trappings leads us to believe that somehow religion and banking are cut from the same cloth. The logic it takes to believe in some great god guiding all from above is the identical leap of faith it takes to borrow money at compound interest. Trust us on this one, they say. And because of the way we are built — fearful and finite organisms — we do.

The great sci-fi visionary H.G. Wells authored the thought that mankind’s mental and moral progress stopped in the 1770s. The name most associated with this sudden surcease in evolution would be Rothschild.

Control of money led to control of everything else, and the bastardization of every discipline known to man for the benefit of the host parasitic group, Mongol invaders known as Ashkenazi who deliberately chose to ally themselves with the worst of all possible brigands, the Sephardics, who together, shrewdly and patiently, plundered all the sitting ducks in the world.

Control of the media made possible all their scams. It is Rule 1.

David Rockefeller famously said it best:

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the light of publicity during those years. But now the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supra-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

Having the most money gave them the upper hand in business, and they in perpetuity captured all the valuable industries in the world: Rockefeller’s oil, Morgan’s railroads, Marx’s politics, Sassoon’s drugs to China, Monsanto’s slaves, Lehman’s carpetbagging, Freud’s psychology, Meyer’s Hollywood, Einstein’s physics, Irving Berlin’s music monopoly, Warburg’s Federal Reserve scam, Oppenheimer’s Jewish hell bomb, Betty Friedan’s housewives, Abbie Hoffman’s hippies, Bronfman’s booze, Henry Kissinger’s assassinations, Norman Lear’s sitcoms, Bill Gates’s computers . . . and so on.

Perhaps the Jews’ most heinous crimes are in the area of medicine. One cannot but remember that old Ottoman Empire proscription against Jews practicing medicine because it says in the Talmud that Jews should become doctors to enable them to kill goyim in a wider variety of ways. Can you say cancer treatment? Mercury fillings? Fluoride? Thimerosal? Squalene? Depleted uranium? Lead poisoning did Rome in. Chicago babies, too. The mad cow is due to come home soon.

John D. Rockefeller first sold oil as a medicinal elixir before he found out it could really burn. Jonas Salk was given a Nobel Prize for a vaccine that gave everyone polio, a fake disease that was really industrial lead poisoning which bought-off medical scientists concealed with fancy rhetoric.

Then there are more recent elixirs: Gardasil, which has already destroyed future generations of Americans; Prozac, the fast track to zombieland; Morgellon’s disease, they say, comes from the chemtrails and puts little wriggly nanobots twitching through your deteriorating veins. Count on these all being Jewish inventions. If conventionally trained, count on your doctor prescribing things that will kill you.

2. The Jews’ harvest

Have you lost a loved one in a war? Cindy Sheehan did, and after years of crying in public, she choked on the American flag. The newspapers regarded her as an abnormal crank — imagine that, a mother whose son was murdered for no honest reason, being called abnormal, when all she was trying to do was to point out the lie each and every one of us reading this has let rip the soul right out of all our hearts, as we cringe with uncertain confusion in this ugly soup of manufactured realities.

The famous Berlin professor Werner Zombart uttered the immortal truism: “Wars are the Jews’ harvest.”

Most notable in our worldwide indictment of Jewish crimes against humanity are the needless deaths caused by covert usurpation of, at this point, virtually every government in the world. The best place to see this in all its historical vividity is in Capt. Ramsay’s “The Nameless War,” on my website and also for years, I have recently learned, on the quality websites of Daryl Bradford Smith http://www.iamthewitness.com and Jackie Patru http://www.sweetliberty.org.

In Ramsay you see in one glance the Jewish penetration of England (Cromwell), France (Rothschild’s renegade puppet Napoleon), Russia (New York Jews who changed their names and became the Politburo), Germany (Nuremberg verdicts were a hoax, just like the lynching of Saddam Hussein), and lastly, and most thoroughly, the United States (Roosevelt and his right hand man Nelson Rockefeller).

Talking about wars, we’re talking about the Federal Reserve, the very shadow government that has bilked us out of our hard earned money for more than a century while protected by the well-coached puppets who pose as presidents whom the bankers themselves have chosen to lead us. And how have they accomplished this?

By taking subversive control of all our media — from schools to movies to TV to computer options — every possible avenue of human endeavor is saturated by this pornographizing influence that is decidedly Jewish. The distinguishing feature of all successful Hollywood actors is that the finest non-Jewish actors must be utterly debased in a depraved way before they get their Oscars.

As Bugsy Siegel’s Las Vegas Jewish architecture became the norm for development in the United States in the 1940s, so nihilistic dissatisfaction became the fashionable ethic toward the 1960s, and revolutionary activities sprung from U.S. college campuses, fueled by an array of CIA distributed drugs.

The Jewish destabilization template so successful in England, France, Russia, Germany and most of the other countries in the world has, at this point, AD 2009, just about rattled the entire world into crumbling pieces by making money the centerpiece of everyone’s focus, causing all other areas of human thought to become polluted and diminished by greed.

The poet Robert Lowell once wrote that nothing good could ever be written if it was written for money. And yet today, practically everything is written for that very purpose, which is an instructive insight into the reason for the consistently poor quality of contemporary communication.

The important thing to know is the death toll caused by the Bolshevik Revolution, which in Stalin’s later days was controlled by Nelson Rockefeller, who was also Franklin Roosevelt’s top adviser. Sixty-six million non-Jews were killed by a Soviet state funded by New York Jewish bankers. That is important American history for you.

Jewish TV took apart Sen. Joseph McCarthy when the Wisconsin senator, fueled by Eustace Mullins’ research which had been commissioned by the imprisoned poet Ezra Pound, named Communists bent on subverting the Constitution.

Both Mullins and Pound, however, failed to fully perceive the power of the Jewish moneymedia monster. Though Pound was imprisoned for 13 years and Mullins’ books were burned in Germany, the great mistake everyone made was not realizing that the word Communist was an exact synonym for Jewish. And while we were involved in all these Whitewater-type brouhahas, they created the state of Israel.

But we didn’t hear it. We couldn’t. The white noise media blare was simply too powerful. Destabilization trends proffered by Kerouac and the pervert poet Ginsberg lured adolescents into Jewish-manipulated nihilism. The highest image it seems the Jews want to cultivate is to call pissing on a crucifix an art form. That seems to be the bellwether image they wish to imbue on the mind of the goy.

Frankly, I consider that repugnant act as the highest expression of their so-called religion, Judaism, and I sorely wish the world would wake up and see what it really means. It really means that they’re pissing on themselves, and don’t realize it.

But they’re definitely pissing on us, and we must stop them — now!

3. Provable pathology

Every crime is committed by someone who did not receive love at the proper time and place. We all need to stop being whores and zealots for one philosophy or another and realize we are all in this together, except for that one group of congenital onanists who urinate on crucifixes.

That’s like pissing on hope. It’s a form of nihilism guaranteed to destroy the practititioner of it, and all around him. This is precisely what is infecting our world.

The core philosophy espousing this is the Talmud (and also by extension, The Old Testament). What ill-begotten god could have uttered that it was OK to kill others, rape their women, and take their property because they were acting in his holy name. What kind of twisted adolescent sociopathic bullshit is that?

The words of a psychopath, is what. The god of the Old Testament, for now and forevermore, is mentally ill, and the Talmud is the diabolically perfect illustration of how that perverted pathology will destroy us, if we let it.

It’s not OK to say you’re better than everyone else because your G-d says so. That is known as deviant behavior, as defined by Jewish psychiatric authorities. It is a superiority complex, born out of fear and lack of love.

The basic mistake of monotheistic religions is that you can’t get love by force, and that’s what they’ve done, by coercion and social engineering. The Jews just twisted it to inculcate into the minds of the feckless bovines that the actual Messiah was Israel, the Jewish people, the outlaw caravansers, the bandits from across the river.

Jews worship thieves. And this is what we have let our world become.

Are you a thief? Do you go along to get along?

Do you temper your remarks with politically correct (but tantalizing) rhetoric to let your listener know what you mean, but not the whole world around you? On TV, they say that’s what freedom is. Do you believe them?

The revolution will be won in a single day because the world will finally wake up and see that doing the right thing is far more important to our survival than doing the profitable thing.

Any religion that can’t admit it has profaned the true nature of God over time is not worthy of being called His emissary, for in our imperfect natures, misunderstanding the grander design is inevitable until we finally understand, stop worrying, and get on with the work of life.

One thing’s for certain: when everybody finds out what the Jews have done to the world, the world will treat the Jews far more kindly than the Jews have treated the world, and in this way, with severe protections, they will lovingly be allowed to rejoin the human race and share in its glorious future.

It’s always wrong to shatter the beliefs of people who believe the best thing in life is love. Let them alone; they’ve worked it out; they’ll be OK.

The reason the guy wrote “Thou Shalt Not Steal” is because what really matters in this life is how much your neighbor likes and respects you. Without him, you’re nothing.

This is how the revolution will be won in a single day. For many of you, that day is today, and one day soon, everyone will realize it, all at once.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Kaminski is becoming increasingly bitter. I suspect that all of the hounding he has been on the receiving end of by telling the truth has now progressed to the point of clouding his vision.

Yes, many of the top criminals are ethnic Jews.

Zionism is in fact a diseased philosophy which masquerades as beneficial to the Jewish People, but it is a secular Political Philosophy which is a malignant growth upon Judaism.

While many of the top criminals are of Jewish ancestry religion has little to do with their behavior and other Jews are just as much victimized by these sick bastards - sadly they don't get it and they close ranks to defend the evil because it was perpetrated by someone they perceive as Jewish.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-19   18:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

While many of the top criminals are of Jewish ancestry religion has little to do with their behavior

I beg to differ.

Judaism itself is the problem, not those born into the clan who have nothing to do with that sick religion. The elite are very religious. They are superstitious to a fault, because they know that higher powers have rule over them and the world. If you don't think Judaism itself is the problem and not Zionism, then just read their most holy book, the Talmud.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-19   20:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

I’m genuinely sorry to tell many of you that the template for deception that has been followed all these years was the creation of Christianity in 325 AD, which taught everybody to turn the other cheek when the Hidden Hand reached into their pockets.

Jesus was mentioned in many writings before 325 AD.

Even the Jews could not invent cowards turned to bold as lion missionaries for Jesus Christ as the Apostles became after they learned that Jesus had risen from the dead and was talking to them. They wouldn't die for him while he was alive, but after he was crucified and rose from the dead they all died for him except John I think.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-19   20:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: RickyJ, Original_Intent (#2)

Judaism itself is the problem, not those born into the clan who have nothing to do with that sick religion. The elite are very religious. They are superstitious to a fault, because they know that higher powers have rule over them and the world. If you don't think Judaism itself is the problem and not Zionism, then just read their most holy book, the Talmud.

Really.

The same could be said of any Religion.

Judaism is in essence no better or worse than most others except maybe Satanism.

It is just another way to develop one's Soul.

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-19   21:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: wudidiz (#4)

Judaism is in essence no better or worse than most others except maybe Satanism.

It is just another way to develop one's Soul.

No it isn't.

Read the Talmud and tell me how that book develops your soul. The Talmud is a book straight from the Devil himself just like the Koran is.

Comparing Christianity to Judaism is like comparing the Devil to God. There is no comparison.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-19   21:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RickyJ (#5)

Sure, but look at what many of the professed 'Christians' are doing and they're no better than the Jews or Zionists or Muslims you have a problem with.

There is literature in the Christian Religion which the same could be said about as the Talmud or the Koran.

I'm guessing that you've fixated on the negative aspects of Judaism and Islam so much that now you're biased.

That's my friendly suggestion.

But hey, I've been wrong before...

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-19   21:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: RickyJ, wudidiz (#2)

While many of the top criminals are of Jewish ancestry religion has little to do with their behavior

I beg to differ.

Judaism itself is the problem, not those born into the clan who have nothing to do with that sick religion. The elite are very religious. They are superstitious to a fault, because they know that higher powers have rule over them and the world. If you don't think Judaism itself is the problem and not Zionism, then just read their most holy book, the Talmud.

Well first off not all Jews accept the Talmud as a religious document. There are many Orthodox Jews who reject the Talmud as having any religious authority.

As well most Jews know about as much about the Talmud as most "Christians" know about the details and less sermonized sections of the New Testament - meaning not much if any.

Now if you said that as a group Jews are clannish and insular that I would have agreed with. Are many moral cowards who reject what Israel is doing but don't have the guts to say so? You betcha. Just as many Christians acquiesced to Witch Burnings, the Inquisition, the nice Padres in the Southwest, and the Indian Schools, run by "Good Christians" much like the ones who perpetrated the massacre at Wounded Knee.

The Kaballah, the occultic offshoot of Judaism, is just that - an offshoot and perversion of Judaism and that is what the elite ethnic Jews are practicing - along with elements of ancient Egyptian Mysteries of Osiris.

However, my viewpoint on religion is that as long as someone does not attempt to force me to accept or follow their beliefs they are free to believe in the fuzz in their belly button. I believe in freedom of conscience and association. I also do not accept condemning all members of a group for the actions of some members of that group. People are individuals and Judaism does not have a corner on criminality or barbarity. That should not be taken to mean I excuse those types of actions. Not by the Israeli Zionists and Zealots nor by Sikh Militants or Hindu Chauvinists.

There are voices in the Jewish community who have stood up and have opposed the criminality of the Rothschild State. The retribution taken against these courageous souls has included murder (I believe Jack Bernstein was murdered for his loud advocacy against what is going on in Israel as was the historian, Jewish, who first forged the historical link between the Khazars and the Ashkenazim). Look at what has happened to Mordecai Vanunu - the courageous prisoner of conscience who publicly revealed what was really going on at the Dimona Reactor Site.

No, Jews are clannish, chauvinistic, and insular, but are no different than other irrational groups within humanity. The Christian Crusaders who butchered their way to Jerusalem "had God on their side" too.

Religion at its best exalts the spirit and lifts us above the mere animal, and at its worst has been used as an excuse by power mad psychotics to beat others down. Judaism is no better, or no worse in that regard. The Koran has its own passages which have outraged others just as Hindu beliefs permanently rank entire classes of people to permanent lowest order status.

I think Buddha was one who got it right in that he was inclusive and accepted all who wished to learn. Other great religious teachers have behaved similarly.

I'll just leave it at that we have a situation where religion has been used as a mask to cover base actions and motives while using religion to cover and justify the unjustifiable.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-19   22:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#7)

Excellent response.

These issues are not all that easily seperated.

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tom007  posted on  2009-12-19   22:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#7)

You Sir, write some of the most reasonable, sensible, intelligent posts I have ever read.

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-19   22:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Original_Intent (#7)

No, Jews are clannish, chauvinistic, and insular, but are no different than other irrational groups within humanity. The Christian Crusaders who butchered their way to Jerusalem "had God on their side" too.

Religion at its best exalts the spirit and lifts us above the mere animal, and at its worst has been used as an excuse by power mad psychotics to beat others down. Judaism is no better, or no worse in that regard. The Koran has its own passages which have outraged others just as Hindu beliefs permanently rank entire classes of people to permanent lowest order status.

bravo, OI. well said.

christine  posted on  2009-12-19   23:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Horse (#0)

I’m genuinely sorry to tell many of you that the template for deception that has been followed all these years was the creation of Christianity in 325 AD, which taught everybody to turn the other cheek when the Hidden Hand reached into their pockets.

Not every Christian has interalized the false and pussified meaning of 'turn the other cheek'.

It's meant to mean 'when preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and in that work, suffer for your faith'...not some other bullshit of sacrifice.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-12-19   23:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wudidiz (#6)

There is literature in the Christian Religion which the same could be said about as the Talmud or the Koran.

flesh that one out a bit for me wud...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-12-19   23:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Horse, All (#0)

The revolution will be won in a single day

If we do it right, it could be 'over' in 3 or 4 days. I'm thinking mop up will take a month.

Of course, I'm an eternal optimist and I always get my way...LOL ! har har har


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-12-19   23:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rotara (#12)

flesh that one out a bit for me wud...

Oh golly. I was afraid someone was gonna ask me to do that...

;-)

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   1:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#10)

Thank you worthy madam for those kind words, I am humbled and grateful.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   1:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: wudidiz (#9)

Thank you. I speak from my heart and that is all I can do.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   1:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tom007, SneakyPete (#8) (Edited)

Excellent response.

These issues are not all that easily seperated.

Thank you. No the issues are thorny ones. At what point do you condemn someone for the actions of another? I cannot and will not. I believe that all of us were created with goodness in our soul. Were this not so then reason could never prevail and good deeds be never done. Yet reason does sometimes prevail and good deeds are done daily and in multitude. Some are base and perverted, some merely ignorant or cowardly, and yet some do manage to rise above such and extend a helping hand, and this is true of all peoples I believe. You remind me of an exchange I had with Sneaky on LP - he was complaining about being left out at Christmas because he was Jewish. So, I told him that only he could exclude himself and no one else had that power. I then posed a question.

"What part of "Peace on Earth Good Will to Men" do you most object to?

I still haven't received an answer.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   1:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#7) (Edited)

Well first off not all Jews accept the Talmud as a religious document. There are many Orthodox Jews who reject the Talmud as having any religious authority.

The vast majority of them do accept it as their most holy book. There are not many orthodox Jews out there at all.

Judaism today is the Talmud. So those Jews that know little about it, which are fewer than you think, indirectly endorse it by remaining in Judaism. Judaism itself is the problem. The very few that are Orthodox are in great error because they deny the prophecies of the old testament concerning Jesus Christ the perfect sacrifice for man's sins. Knowing the truth and denying it is not a minor error. Most people do not know the truth so they have no way of denying it, but Orthodox Jews know the truth and deny it.

Christianity has always been the New Testament and always will be. The New Testament does not in any way teach what the Crusaders did as being right. But the Talmud DOES teach what Jews are doing today to Palestinians as being right.

You can give Judaism a pass because there is a very small minority made up of orthodox Jews who don't go by the Talmud, but are in error and teach error nevertheless, but most that know the truth won't give it a pass.

Judaism today is a man made religion which came straight from Satan just as Islam has.

Other religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism are also wrong but in a much more subtle way than Judaism or Islam. Both Judaism and Islam are easily seen as devil inspired religions by all that care to know the truth.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-20   4:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: RickyJ (#18)

i'm curious about a couple things: who's gonna exterminate the jews in the fundamentalist christian end times?

will god do the dirty deed, or will fundamentalist christian armies have to do the heavy lifting, in the belief that they are merely "doing god's will"?

how do fundamentalist christians justify their support of israel, knowing as they do that they will eventually have to exterminate jews?

how can israelis keep a straight face while accepting fundamentalist christian support, knowing, as they do, that fundamentalist christians are planning to exterminate jews?

seems like the whole lashup is a moral snakepit.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   4:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: groundresonance (#19)

i'm curious about a couple things: who's gonna exterminate the jews in the fundamentalist christian end times?

All people that deny Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will meet the same fate. You seem to be concerned about what will happen to these people in this short lifetime, but you should be concerned about will happen for eternity, not just this short life that we live as humans on Earth. And you should also be concerned about what will happen to you as well after death which happens to all who have ever lived.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-20   4:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: RickyJ (#20)

in other words, you dont want to touch the fundamental question... "who's gonna exterminate the jews"... with a ten-foot pole.

so we can go on the assumption that fundamentalist christian armies will be willing, in their end times, to exterminate billions of people if by some chance god needs a little hand.

good enough.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   4:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: wudidiz (#6)

There is literature in the Christian Religion which the same could be said about as the Talmud or the Koran.

No there isn't. Christianity is the New Testament. Please find where the New Testament tells Christians to kill people. You can't find it because it is not there. Lying about Christianity will not ease the Judgment awaiting those practicing Judaism and Islam today nor will it help you either.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-20   4:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: RickyJ (#22)

Christianity is the New Testament.

The Old Testament is accepted by Christians as scripture.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   5:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: groundresonance (#21)

in other words, you dont want to touch the fundamental question... "who's gonna exterminate the jews"... with a ten-foot pole.

Why are you so concerned about who or what will end their lives in the flesh?

Palestinians are being exterminated today by these people and their evil beliefs. Why no concern for them?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-20   5:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: RickyJ (#24)

why cant you answer the original question... "who's gonna exterminate the jews in the deathwish christian end times?"

how many iraqi and afghani deaths have been caused by wars started by your deathwish christian hero, gw bush?

at whose instigation were those wars started...? ...surely not israel's and israeli americans' instigation, so, in addition to the palestinian deaths, we can lay hundreds of thousands of dead iraqis and afghans at the doorstep of the unholy alliance of radical jews and fundamentalist christians.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   5:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: RickyJ (#24)

Palestinians are being exterminated today by these people and their evil beliefs. Why no concern for them?

look into my eyes - Outlandish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfKyZkt4SNs

great song

Look into my eyes Tell me what you see You don't see a damn thing 'cause you can't relate to me You're blinded by our differences My life makes no sense to you I'm the persecuted one You're the red, white and blue

Each day you wake in tranquility No fears to cross your eyes Each day I wake in gratitude Thanking God He let me rise You worry about your education And the bills you have to pay I worry about my vulnerable life And if I'll survive another day Your biggest fear is getting a ticket As you cruise your Cadillac My fear is that the tank that has just left Will turn around and come back

Yet, do you know the truth of where your money goes? Do you let the media deceive your mind? Is this a truth nobody, nobody, nobody knows? Has our world gone all blind?

Yet, do you know the truth of where your money goes? Do you let the media deceive your mind? Is this a truth nobody, nobody, nobody knows? Someone tell me ...

Ooohh, let's not cry tonight I promise you one day it's through Ohh my brothers, Ohh my sisters Ooohh, shine a light for every soul that ain't with us no more Ohh my brothers, Ohh my sisters

See I've known terror for quite some time 57 years so cruel Terror breathes the air I breathe It's the checkpoint on my way to school Terror is the robbery of my land And the torture of my mother The imprisonment of my innocent father The bullet in my baby brother The bulldozers and the tanks The gases and the guns The bombs that fall outside my door All due to your funds You blame me for defending myself Against the ways of my enemies I'm terrorized in my own land (what) And I'm the terrorist?

Yet, do you know the truth of where your money goes? Do you let the media deceive your mind? Is this a truth nobody, nobody, nobody knows? Has our world gone all blind?

Yet, do you know the truth of where your money goes? Do you let the media deceive your mind? Is this a truth nobody, nobody, nobody knows? Someone tell me ...

Ooohh, let's not cry tonight, I promise you one day it's through Ohh my brothers, Ohh my sisters, Ooohh, shine a light for every soul that ain't with us no more Ohh my brothers, Ohh my sisters,

Americans , do you realize that the taxes that you pay Feed the forces that traumatize my every living day So if I won't be here tomorrow It's written in my faith May the future bring a brighter day The end of our ways

(pause)

Ooohh, let's not cry tonight, I promise you one day it's through Ohh my brothers, Ohh my sisters, Ooohh, shine a light for every soul that ain't with us no more Ohh my brothers, Ohh my sisters,

[with kids] Ohh let's not cry tonight I promise you one day is through Ohh my brothers! Ohh my sisters! Ooh shine a light for every soul that ain't with us no more Ohh my brothers! Ohh my sisters!

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-12-20   5:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: groundresonance (#23)

The Old Testament is accepted by Christians as scripture.

Where the New Testament is silent the Old Testament can be used for instruction.

The New Testament is not silent about the fact that God's kingdom is not of this Earth and that Christians should not take up arms against anyone. Jesus said that those that take up the sword shall perish with the sword. He wasn't here to establish a Earthly kingdom which was why the Apostles at the time denied him when he was taken to be crucified. But after he was crucified and risen they realized that Jesus was telling them the truth about his heavenly kingdom and were as bold as lions teaching the Gospel everywhere and willingly dieing for the sake of the Gospel.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-20   5:18:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: RickyJ (#24)

at what point does one of your deathwish christian brethren go tilt after finding himself in a position to push the button?

will the christian community rejoice at nuke holocaust of billions of people?

and what if none of you guys are raptured? ...what if jesus doesnt show up to bail your sorry asses out of this mess you've created?

what if you've been wrong all along?

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   5:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: RickyJ (#27)

if you believe in a god that's mean enough to fry billions of people for eternity, god help you.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   5:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: RickyJ (#22)

There is literature in the Christian Religion which the same could be said about as the Talmud or the Koran.

No there isn't. Christianity is the New Testament. Please find where the New Testament tells Christians to kill people. You can't find it because it is not there. Lying about Christianity will not ease the Judgment awaiting those practicing Judaism and Islam today nor will it help you either.

There is if you include the Old Testament. Many 'Christians' do.

I'm sure Christ didn't.

Depends on how you define 'Christianity'.

Personally, I see true Christianity as based on what Jesus said and only what he said.

I think Jesus would agree.

I wasn't lying. Take it back or I'm telling Jesus.

;-)

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   6:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#16)

Thank you. I speak from my heart and that is all I can do.

And you do that very well.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-12-20   6:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: groundresonance (#29)

if you believe in a god that's mean enough to fry billions of people for eternity, god help you.

God sends no one to hell. People choose it by denying him.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-12-20   6:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: RickyJ (#32)

so people who've never heard of jesus are doomed by their ignorance to fry forever.

a god that makes up that kind of rule is haywire.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   7:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Horse (#0)

We proles are only numbers in the ledger book of some rich Jewish crook tied into a worldwide network of shysters who strive to make us all half-dead zombies bound up in complex payment plans with no say in our fate.

This guy has some serious self esteem issues.

Sucks to be him.

Mister Clean  posted on  2009-12-20   9:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Zionism is in fact a diseased philosophy which masquerades as beneficial to the Jewish People, but it is a secular Political Philosophy which is a malignant growth upon Judaism.

While many of the top criminals are of Jewish ancestry religion has little to do with their behavior and other Jews are just as much victimized by these sick bastards -

Well stated!

sadly they don't get it and they close ranks to defend the evil because it was perpetrated by someone they perceive as Jewish.

What's even worse,is they are always the only Jews left around to take the blame for it all because the rich ones have the money to leave when things start getting dangerous.

Hitler and Stalin both murdered millions of innocent Jews,and you can bet there were more shoemakers or tailors murdered than there were bankers.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: wudidiz (#4)

Judaism is in essence no better or worse than most others except maybe Satanism.

I disagree. Islam and Satanism are side-by-side in a tie for the bottom slot.

No other culture that I am aware of practices the torture,enslavement,and mandatory ignorance of their own followers than the Islamic religion.

Not counting the San Francisco Bath House religion,that is.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   10:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#17)

I believe that all of us were created with goodness in our soul.

You are right if you are saying "all of us" in the group sense,as in peoples. You are clearly wrong if you mean all individuals were created with goodness in their hearts. There are sociopaths that don't give a damn about anybody but themsleves.

You remind me of an exchange I had with Sneaky on LP - he was complaining about being left out at Christmas because he was Jewish.

Say WHAT? Since I am not Jewish and I have never claimed to be Jewish,you are recalling something that never happened.

So, I told him that only he could exclude himself and no one else had that power. I then posed a question.

"What part of "Peace on Earth Good Will to Men" do you most object to?

I still haven't received an answer.

And you never will because I never said that and you never asked me the question.

In FACT,I have written just the opposite. I used to volunteer to take CQ and SGT of the Guard duties at Christmas and Easter time when I was in the army because neither holiday meant anything to me,and I was willing to volunteer for the duty so that the guys who it did mean something to could be at home with their families instead of pulling duty assignments.

Does that sound like I felt left out?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   10:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: groundresonance (#29)

if you believe in a god that's mean enough to fry billions of people for eternity, god help you.

Ahhhh,but you seem to be missing the point that he's going to do it in a kind and loving way.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   10:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#35) (Edited)

Hitler and Stalin both murdered millions of innocent Jews

the fact that laws have been enacted that forbid discussion and research of the holocaust is proof that europeans are entitled to move to palestine and murder palestinians, and is proof that jews are entitled to exploit the holyhoax persecution myth to enlist america in israel's wars against muslims... wars that, so far, have killed a few hundred thousand people.

if these wars last until the oil runs out ...at which point america will no longer be able to defend israel... what do you spose the final tally of dead muslims will be?

will you then have to resort to your samson option as israel goes under? ...how many more people will that kill?

are you endangering your status as "most holocausted"?

.

seems it might be healthier for everyone, in the long run, to admit israel was a piss-poor idea in the first place, and start trying to make amends, instead of trying to stir up more wars.

.

but maybe it's kinda hard to make amends when you insist on making the world safe for ashkenazi supremacism at the same time you're trying to make amends.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   10:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: groundresonance (#39)

the fact that laws have been enacted that forbid discussion and research of the holocaust is proof that europeans are entitled to move to palestine and murder palestinians,

You just go ahead and live inside your personal insanity,and leave me out of it.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   10:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#40) (Edited)

You just go ahead and live inside your personal insanity,and leave me out of it.

i didnt pass any laws that forbid discussion of the holyhoax, and i havent jailed anyone who's willing to look into the holyhoax persecution myth.

if jews were so confident of the holyhoax myth, they'd be screaming for a real investigation to end the controversy once and for all...

we have to assume jews know the holyhoax is a crock.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   10:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete (#40)

and i havent used the holyhoax as justification for moving from europe to palestine and terrorizing the natives from their land.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   10:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#40) (Edited)

neither have i exploited the holyhoax to become exempt from criticism, i havent grabbed control of america and its armies, and i havent embarked on a military campaign to subdue muslims and grab control of their oil.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   10:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#4)

I had a good Hanukkah, how 'bout you? ;-D

Screw Nazis who write bullshit like this piece. You are correct; this religion attacked in this peice is no worse than Islam or Christianity.

As far as my faith goes, that of Wicca, we are in the Solstice period, and this is my holiday. Let the blessings be as the light returns.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-12-20   11:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: groundresonance (#39)

Here's a picture for you, nudnik, mozeltoff.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-12-20   11:41:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Artisan (#26)

very nice

christine  posted on  2009-12-20   11:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Horse, Christine, all (#0)

John Kaminski

Isn't this the guy that Moldi-Box used to claim was her mentor (or some such)?

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-20   12:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: RickyJ (#27)

Where the New Testament is silent the Old Testament can be used for instruction.

Yes, but this also leads to the pesky problem of cherry picking. It's "eye for an eye" today despite what Jesus had to say. Next day, honor the Sabbath to the point of idiocy--don't lift a finger to help anybody. And so on for all the days of the week.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-20   12:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: groundresonance (#19)

how do fundamentalist christians justify their support of israel, knowing as they do that they will eventually have to exterminate jews?

They do not believe that they will exterminate any Jews. They believe that all of them will be converted once they see Jesus return. Then the lot of them will hop in the rapture mobile and leave this God forsaken planet.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-20   12:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#47)

NO! that was John Kotmair.

do a search on John Kaminski. he's very vocal anti-jew/zionist.

christine  posted on  2009-12-20   12:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: christine (#50)

NO! that was John Kotmair.

do a search on John Kaminski. he's very vocal anti-jew/zionist.

OK thanks. I knew it was John something or other that started with a K.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-20   12:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: groundresonance (#42)

and i havent used the holyhoax as justification for moving from europe to palestine and terrorizing the natives from their land.

And I really don't give a rabid rats ass about any of that because I am an American,and I spend my time worrying about what is happening in America and trying to figure out ways to fix it.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   12:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#52)

and I spend my time worrying about what is happening in America and trying to figure out ways to fix it.

Just curious, and I have no intention to flame, but how in god's holy name can this mess be fixed? Any suggestion(s) are welcome.

Klick the Khristmas Kat

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-12-20   12:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Jethro Tull, sneakypete (#53)

but how in god's holy name can this mess be fixed? Any suggestion(s) are welcome.

Isn't it obvious? The Republicans, led by the sainted Sarah Palin (glory be her name), will save us all!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-20   12:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#54)

The Republicans, led by the sainted Sarah Palin (glory be her name), will save us all!

If Saint Sarah was any threat to the financial cartel who uses this nation as a piggy bank, her head would be mounted in the lodge next to that of the moose.

Klick the Khristmas Kat

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-12-20   13:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

If Saint Sarah was any threat to the financial cartel who uses this nation as a piggy bank, her head would be mounted in the lodge next to that of the moose.

Are you trying to tell me that she's NOT the greatest thing since baked bread? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-20   13:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Bub (#0)

Kaminski

christine  posted on  2009-12-20   13:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#52)

I really don't give a rabid rats ass about any of that because I am an American,and I spend my time worrying about what is happening in America and trying to figure out ways to fix it.

you dont give a rabid rat's ass about israel and israeli americans taking control of american foreign policy.

you dont seem to be thinking very clearly: if israeli control of america is harming america's well-being, you might oughta give a rabid rat's ass or two.

but apparently you think that it's okay for america to be controlled by religious fanatics and racial supremacists who are willing to sacrifice america in defense of israel.

weird.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   13:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#37)

Say WHAT? Since I am not Jewish and I have never claimed to be Jewish,you are recalling something that never happened.

My bad. I must have confused you with someone else. I was thinking it was you but obviously I was wrong. Please accept my apology for the miscue. Damn! Now I have to remember who it was to correct the record. It was someone with a similar temperment whom I ordinarily liked - thus the confusion. Drat! It eludes me.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   13:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: sneakypete (#52)

And I really don't give a rabid rats ass about any of that because I am an American,and I spend my time worrying about what is happening in America and trying to figure out ways to fix it.

"fix it"

------- impossible without ........... the somewhat unthinkable.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Horse, christine, liberator, Original_Intent, Lod, Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull, christine, packrat1145, mel_living, TooConservative, X-15, TwentyTwelve, Refinersfire, SonOfLiberty, palo verde, Buzzard, TommyTheMadArtist, abraxas, Hayek Fan, Flintlock (#0)

It WILL occur in a single day, because the serpentine network of the beast engulfs the entire planet with its self-destructive blackmail avarice, and everyone everywhere will simultaneously realize that it is not the philosophy of profit that has turned our planet into a diseased cinder, but rather the policies of a certain collection of megalomaniacal fools who control every last dollar in the world, or damn near.

Yes ......... Jews must be looked at and dealt with in a very unhappy way (for them).

I say ......... make all the evil Jews watch some of their perverted creations day in and day out for the rest of their miserable lives...........

Jerry Springer Re-runs.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: RickyJ (#2)

God is always good!

... try again. You are in fantasy land.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: beyond the sea (#60) (Edited)

It's simple to me: the socialist-kommunist-fascist tools of ameriKa and ALL the Traitors, Foreign Agents, subverters, et al that have worked against US must be made to be of no further potential threat to US as we rebuild our society, rebuild perimeter security as well restore liberty/freedom of all non-bad actors within our borders, go back to Constitutional concepts wrt: war, 'money', general welfare, taxation, 'interstate commerce', foreign entanglements, etc.

If you don't like it, and you're white, pink, black, muslum, jewz, et al - patriots won't discriminate, be assured.

Other than that, peace and love b t s !


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-12-20   14:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: RickyJ (#3)

rose from the dead

BS

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz, RickyJ (#6)

There is literature in the Christian Religion which the same could be said about as the Talmud or the Koran.

Organized religion is ALL BS!!!!!!

Organized religion was and is created to try to keep the masses quiet and compliant.

Grow EFFIN up!

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#7)

I think Buddha was one who got it right in that he was inclusive and accepted all who wished to learn.

Thank you. I am Buddha III.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: beyond the sea (#65)

Jesus came down from Heaven to enable man to choose to be free from all 'religion'...and He was FAR from being quiet or compliant about it.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-12-20   14:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Original_Intent (#7)

I'll just leave it at that we have a situation where religion has been used as a mask to cover base actions and motives while using religion to cover and justify the unjustifiable.

well said, sir.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: wudidiz (#9)

You Sir, write some of the most reasonable, sensible, intelligent posts I have ever read.

No sh*t.

Original_Intent is a genius.

(Don't let it go to your head, OI)

;-)

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: RickyJ (#18)

God is always good!

If there were no God it would be necessary for man to invent one.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Rotara (#67)

Jesus came down from Heaven to enable man to choose to be free from all 'religion'.

"Jesus" was a male human being. Apparently he was a very good human being. Leave it at that.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: beyond the sea (#71)

You leave off wherever you want, b t s.

I'm going all the way home...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-12-20   14:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#15)

I am humbled and grateful.

Don't waste your time on "humble" ......... it will just get you wasted.

;-)

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: beyond the sea (#71)

"Jesus" was a male human being. Apparently he was a very good human being. Leave it at that.

somebody upthread said that jews will all convert to christianity once jesus reappears himself, thus eliminating christians' need to exterminate jews.

you gots to wonder if jesus will have any better luck the second time around.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   14:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: groundresonance (#19)

how can israelis keep a straight face while accepting fundamentalist christian support, knowing, as they do, that fundamentalist christians are planning to exterminate jews?

seems like the whole lashup is a moral snakepit.

You are very wise.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: RickyJ, groundresonance (#20)

All people that deny Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will meet the same fate.

BS

Jesus was a good guy........ leave it at that.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: groundresonance (#29)

if you believe in a god that's mean enough to fry billions of people for eternity, god help you.

.......... well said.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: RickyJ, groundresonance (#32)

God sends no one to hell. People choose it by denying him.

TOTAL BS.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: groundresonance (#33)

a god that makes up that kind of rule is haywire.

Yes....... there is no "god" such as that.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete (#38)

if you believe in a god that's mean enough to fry billions of people for eternity, god help you.

Ahhhh,but you seem to be missing the point that he's going to do it in a kind and loving way.

LMAO

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: groundresonance (#39)

seems it might be healthier for everyone, in the long run, to admit israel was a piss-poor idea in the first place, and start trying to make amends, instead of trying to stir up more wars.

Right on.

Jews like warm apartments and homes .......... move them all up to the Arctic Circle. I hear Al Gore saying it's gettin' warm up there.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, chritine (#51)

When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society

2009 US Congress

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: beyond the sea (#81)

Jews like warm apartments and homes .......... move them all up to the Arctic Circle. I hear Al Gore saying it's gettin' warm up there.

Hello BTS. We're still paying for the last damn move and still listening to the bitching about it.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-20   14:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Rotara (#67)

Jesus came down from Heaven

......... and Janet Reno loves males.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: groundresonance (#74)

jews will all convert to christianity once jesus reappears himself, thus eliminating christians' need to exterminate jews

you gots to wonder if jesus will have any better luck the second time around.

lol.

Personally I would adore :

...... her more.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   14:59:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: abraxas (#83)

We're still paying for the last damn move and still listening to the bitching about it.

lol ..... I hear you!

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-20   15:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: beyond the sea (#86)

My God! You are fairly chatty today.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   15:10:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Horse (#0)

BAH!

The Jews aren't the single problem. More to the point with this article are assholes like you attributing JEWS as the single problem.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   15:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: beyond the sea (#65)

Are you into the eggnog already?

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   15:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo (#88)

BAH!

buckenezer scrooge

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   15:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: wudidiz (#90)

I am not buying no stinking Christmas tree either. Nor am I putting up lights around the home to just take them down.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   15:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: buckeroo (#88) (Edited)

The Jews aren't the single problem. More to the point with this article are assholes like you attributing JEWS as the single problem.

yup.

you're right... the oil companies, especially exxon, signed onto the project.

Putin's Secret War in the North Caucasus - By Sarah Mendelson

read the comments

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   15:52:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: beyond the sea (#73)

I am humbled and grateful.

Don't waste your time on "humble" ......... it will just get you wasted.

;-)

I'm good enough to be humble. :-)

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   16:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: groundresonance (#92)

Power, wealth creation and control over the masses is the issue. Here in America, this same phenomena is creeping at an ever rising rate. But to single out any one group as the nexus or common denominator for the dilemma's we confront is to over-simplify the discussion to begin with.

I don't buy the article.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   16:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: beyond the sea, wudidiz (#69)

(Don't let it go to your head, OI)

;-)

I always try to emulate the humility of those much greater than I.

On his death bed Buddha protested and proclaimed that he was naught but a man seeking truth and was not deity and not to be deified. Some who have followed his path have sought to argue otherwise. I prefer the original.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   16:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: buckeroo (#94)

I don't buy the article.

you dont have to buy the article.

it would be a good idea if you looked at the evidence, though.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: buckeroo, wudidiz (#91)

I am not buying no stinking Christmas tree either. Nor am I putting up lights around the home to just take them down.

The spirit of Christmas resides within or not at all.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   16:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: groundresonance (#96)

What evidence? There is a BIG difference between fact and fiction. And for grown adults, I strongly recommend that you not bring illusion to the forum as I will knock the breath out of your repugnant arguments.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   16:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Original_Intent (#97)

Merry Christmas, OI. You seem to to know the point.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   16:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

Just curious, and I have no intention to flame, but how in god's holy name can this mess be fixed?

I wish I knew. I wish SOMEBODY knew. Personally,I think it has gone past the tipping point already,and there is no fixing it at this point without tearing it down and recreating it.

I do hope I'm wrong,though.

Any suggestion(s) are welcome.

They are welcome from me,too.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: buckeroo (#99)

Thank You. And to you as well and all you hold dear.

Merry Christmas!

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   16:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Original_Intent (#93)

the thing that everybody has a hard time grasping, is this: the people who have been paying attention knew, from the mid-70s on, that america was a goner, because american oil production had peaked.

since then, it's been a matter of waiting for the most opportune moment to loot america as it dies, while giving lip service to saving israel... because an alliance with israel provides a certain amount of exemption from criticism.

who's gonna begrudge a bunch of jews getting rich by looting america when jews suffered so from the holyhoax?

meanwhile, eveybody knows israel was a bad idea from the start, and israel's usefullness will be done for once the last dime is sucked out of america.

so war seems to provide the best opportunities to loot... so war is the answer... and nevermind that the big wheels have written israel off because it was such a bad idea in the first place... israel gives jewish looters immunity from criticism, and that's what counts.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: groundresonance (#58)

you dont give a rabid rat's ass about israel

No.

and israeli americans taking control of american foreign policy.

No more than I care about the Chinese taking over American foreign policy. In fact,maybe even a little less.

AND...,I know I am wasting my time because your whole world revolves around some giant Israeli conspiracy,but Israel is no more guilty of this and no more of a threat to us than Great Britian or Holland,and less of a threat than China,

You confuse "Jews" with the nation of Israel,and the truth is there ARE a awful lot of Jews controlling banks and working for the New World Order,but not all of those people are Jews,and the nation of Israel and the typical Jew will be treated no differentially than any other nation or individuals.

Those people consider themselves to be "Citizens of the World",and the only Gods they worship are the twin Gods of greed and power. Their only loyalty is to themselves and their families,period.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeroo (#91)

I am not buying no stinking Christmas tree either. Nor am I putting up lights around the home to just take them down.

That'll show them by god!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-20   16:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: groundresonance (#102)

who's gonna begrudge a bunch of jews getting rich by looting america when jews suffered so from the holyhoax?

noted: silly bias and prejudice obfuscating the same question.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   16:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: sneakypete (#103)

big jews in general are using israel as protective coloration: they are exempt from criticism because they all had 65 first cousins that died in the holyhoax.

meanwhile, they get away with the loot, as you said in your previous post, and the little jews are left holding the bag.

why people persist in being jewish defies...

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Original_Intent (#59)

Please accept my apology for the miscue.

No big deal. I have been called worse thing than a Jew several times today.

I had one poster on another web site this morning say I was a Obama supporter who had never posted anything critical of him,a DNC shill,and that I had never posted anything critical of any Democrat,ever.

This same retard also thinks I am skydrifter posting under a alias.

I get called a Jew-lover over here all the time,and a neo-Nazi anti-Semite over on LP.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: buckeroo (#105)

silly bias and prejudice obfuscating the same question.

please explain why jews are so prominent in the finacial shenanigans.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: beyond the sea (#60)

"fix it"

------- impossible without ........... the somewhat unthinkable.

Yes,sad to say. And if it does happen,the same thing will happen that always happens. A awful lot of innocent people will get hurt and die,and the people responsible for the problems will slink away to hide in other countries,and start all over again.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: groundresonance (#106)

big jews in general are using israel as protective coloration: they are exempt from criticism because they all had 65 first cousins that died in the holyhoax.

meanwhile, they get away with the loot, as you said in your previous post, and the little jews are left holding the bag.

why people persist in being jewish defies...

Are you fucking serious? I am thinking you are waste of time and bandwidth.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   16:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: groundresonance (#102)

the thing that everybody has a hard time grasping, is this: the people who have been paying attention knew, from the mid-70s on, that america was a goner, because american oil production had peaked.

The problem with that is that you are operating from a false premise.

1. By 1968 we had a prototype for a functioning Fusion Reactor when its funding was pulled and the project scrapped.

2. Oil is an abiotic product of natural geologic processes not dead dinosaurs. This as well has been known as well since at least the late 60's if not before. We are literally floating on a Sea of Oil and supposedly exhausted Oil Fields are slowly refilling (and that is documented).

3. The Oil Field, which has been capped and sealed to production, at Gull Island Alaska is, based on leaks, at least as extensive as the Saudi Arabian Reserves at their peak.

4. Again based on leaks there are reserves in one small area of Louisiana that are of the same magnitude, and this is before we get to the seafloor reserves in the Gulf of Mexico and off the coast of Florida.

The energy "shortage" is a created scenario used to justify the looting and the collapse of the American economy. The reality is that with plentiful cheap energy the Banksters lose control because people become independent of their control. That is the real reason for the energy non-shortage.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   16:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: beyond the sea, Original_Intent (#73)

Don't waste your time on "humble" ......... it will just get you wasted.

;-)

LOL! ABSOLUTELY! It will be seen as a sign of weakness by the internet attack dogs,and they will come after you in full howl.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: groundresonance (#108)

please explain why jews are so prominent in the finacial shenanigans.

They were at the cross roads of the world, circa 1 AD, and understood financial opportunities.

They are kinda like Negro basketball players; they understand their own turf for personal success.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   16:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: sneakypete (#107)

I get called a Jew-lover over here all the time,and a neo-Nazi anti-Semite over on LP.

Well, you must be doing something right. ;-)

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   16:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: buckeroo (#88)

The Jews aren't the single problem.

No,but they sure do provide handy scapegoats for the real villains to hide behind,don't they?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Original_Intent (#111) (Edited)

where's the abiotic beef?

how come oil production has flatlined since 2005?

you people are unable to recognize the relationship between cause and effect... the cause of this whole fiasco is the fact that global oil production has peaked.

israel must be secured before america runs out of gas and can no longer afford to protect israel, and that's why 9/11 had to be staged when it was staged.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: sneakypete (#115)

As a people within a nation that seeks diminishing personal responsibility, we will never regain our individual rights and freedoms as we finger point the issues other than at our own selves.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   16:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: groundresonance (#106)

why people persist in being jewish defies.

The answer is simple. It's because they are not the same type of Jew or person as the fascist bastards causing all the trouble.

Just like people continue to be Catholics because they are not the type that sent armies of priests out to boil non-believers in oil.

Most people seem to feel the need for a religious faith to get them through life,but that doesn't put them in the same catagory as the monsters that manipulate and organize religion for their own personal profits and power.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: groundresonance (#116)

the fact that global oil production has peaked.

Really????

israel must be secured before america runs out of gas and can no longer afford to protect israel,

Let that den of thieves survive or fall on their own. Have done with them.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   16:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Cynicom (#119)

please post evidence that global oil production since 2005 has risen.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: buckeroo, groundresonance (#113)

please explain why jews are so prominent in the finacial shenanigans.

They were at the cross roads of the world, circa 1 AD, and understood financial opportunities.

But the big reason is the Vatican forbid Catholics to become bankers and lend money at interest,and since all Christians in the west were Catholics at that time if they knew what was good for them,this left Jews as the only ones that COULD be bankers.

They saw a need and they filled it and profited from it.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: sneakypete (#118)

israel must be secured before america runs out of gas and can no longer afford to protect israel,

And Marx was a......

Fill in the blank.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   16:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: groundresonance (#116)

how come oil production has flatlined since 2005?

Because roughly 3 major oil companies control the lion's share of the market and control the amount of oil allowed on the market. It is an Oligopoly that operates almost as a monolithic monopoly - and with political connivance to support it.

Instructive is that there are several companies that had the technology and backing to build several new gasoline refineries in Texas - all they lacked were the Federal Permits - which during the last Gas Crisis the Bush Junta withheld thus preventing the building of new refinery capacity in competition with the majors.

911 was NOT staged for Israel's specific benefit - although they did benefit as Bebe Netanyahu accidentally let slip - it was a major PsyOp ala The Tavistock Institute doctrine of administering a major shock to numb people and make them more receptive to laws and predation upon the liberty.

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-20   16:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: groundresonance (#120)

please post evidence that global oil production since 2005 has risen.

UHHHH...

If you read, someone made a categorical statement that oil HAD peaked. I would be interested in reading.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   16:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Original_Intent (#123)

please explain why it is necessary to for israeli america to secure israel before israeli america runs out of gas.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: buckeroo (#117)

As a people within a nation that seeks diminishing personal responsibility, we will never regain our individual rights and freedoms as we finger point the issues other than at our own selves.

Amen! The guy that whines about industries moving off-shore to increase profits while going to Wal-Mart to buy Chinese crap because it's cheaper is as big a villain as the international bankers.

So are the losers that whine about illegal aliens,and then run around looking for illegal aliens to hire when they need their house painted "because they work cheaper and everybody else is doing it,so why can't I?"

There is just no excuse for this kind of ignorance and stupidity today.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Cynicom (#124)

If you read, someone made a categorical statement that oil HAD peaked. I would be interested in reading.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/ipm/supply.html

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Cynicom (#122)

israel must be secured before america runs out of gas and can no longer afford to protect israel,

And Marx was a......

Fill in the blank.

Huh? I didn't write that. You are quoting someone else.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   16:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: groundresonance (#127)

thanks...

No such page.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   16:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: sneakypete (#128)

I saw that but figured you were guilty also... hehehehehehee

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   16:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: sneakypete (#100)

Personally,I think it has gone past the tipping point already,and there is no fixing it at this point without tearing it down and recreating it.

I couldn't agree more. The corruption of the system is complete, and neither party is worth a damn. The Enablers who bother to participate in the fraud have brought to the point of choosing between a Kenyan and McCain. These two represented the worst "lesser of two evils" to date, and it can only get worse from here on out.

Klick the Khristmas Kat

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-12-20   16:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: sneakypete (#121)

Speaking of Catholics .... didn't they do a fantastic job killing and maiming and raping and creating chaos around the world while spreading the gospel? Why their murder count must be in the BILLIONS.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   16:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Cynicom (#129)

No such page.

you can paste this into your browser, and confirm that the year-on-year global oil production peaked in 2005.

i cant explain why you're browser is lame.

table 1.1d http://www.eia.doe.gov/ipm/supply.html

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: buckeroo (#91)

I hear you.

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   16:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Cynicom (#129)

so, as far as i can tell, you people are in severe denial.

you have to deny that people who've been paying attention have known about peak oil for decades, and have been planning the final looting scenario for decades.

meanwhile, the israeli faction has been wracking their brains in an effort to hitch peak oil to the preservation of israel.

the solution to this problem became obvious on september 11, 2001.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: groundresonance (#133)

Odd that you are only one that believes oil has peaked when new fields are coming on line world wide.

I take it the government was your "authoritative" source????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   16:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Cynicom (#136)

odd that you cant post evidence that global crude oil production has been rising.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   16:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: groundresonance (#137)

Don't you think the world demand for fossil fuels has stripped the easy or accessible petroleum reservoirs? Don't you think that oil shall rise in value since demand is rising?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   17:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: groundresonance (#137)

odd that you cant post evidence that global crude oil production has been rising.

Odd. I didnt say it was.

I said new fields are coming on line all the time, which would indicate that supply is remaining static, who pumps what is what you are breathing about.

Item, Iraq just let out on bid two huge untapped fields.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   17:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: buckeroo (#138) (Edited)

Don't you think the world demand for fossil fuels has stripped the easy or accessible petroleum reservoirs? Don't you think that oil shall rise in value since demand is rising?

it's hard to say.

if oil shortages depress the global economy so badly that demand drops, the price of oil will drop.

in the meantime, all of us, especially americans who are so dependent and so wasteful, will experience a lowered standard of living, no matter what the price of oil is.

the critical thing, from the israeli point of view, is "how long will america be able to protect israel?"

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Cynicom (#139)

I said new fields are coming on line all the time, which would indicate that supply is remaining static, who pumps what is what you are breathing about.

in other words, you cant post proof that global oil production is rising.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: groundresonance (#140)

Why is Israel at the forefront of the oil issues? As you know, America consumes 25% of the world's oil supplies. What does Israel have to do with that?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   17:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: buckeroo (#142)

Why is Israel at the forefront of the oil issues? As you know, America consumes 25% of the world's oil supplies. What does Israel have to do with that?

israel's ambitions hinge on controlling oil, because israel's existence depends on continuing support from america, and america's existence depends on continuing supplies of oil.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: groundresonance (#141)

in other words, you cant post proof that global oil production is rising.

You seem to dance around the fact that you said oil had peaked, no qualifiers.

Perhaps if you would consider the fact that oil usage has peaked, or that desirab ility to pump has peaked, you would have some stranding. Perhaps you are accepting government statistics at face value?

Example, a few years ago natural gas "had peaked" production in the US and we were importing it. There was a shortage, schools were closed and the government gave dire warnings.

Twenty years later we are flush with gas, new wells on line every day, resreves for 75 years etc etc. Production had peaked remember???

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   17:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Cynicom (#144)

perhaps you'd like to post figures that show global oil production did not peak in 2005.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: groundresonance (#143)

How does Israel control America's oil supplies? Most if not all mid-East oil supplies serve other markets other than America. America's ranking oil importers are Canada, Mexico and Venezuela.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   17:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Cynicom (#144)

perhaps you'd like to post evidence that peak oil was not the reason israel and israeli americans staged 9/11 to grab control of oil.

perhaps you like to post evidence that there's no necessity to secure israel before america goes tits up from oil shortages.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: groundresonance (#147)

perhaps you'd like to post evidence that peak oil was not the reason israel and israeli americans staged 9/11 to grab control of oil.

Evidence???/

Where would I obtain evidence of anything. That is an asinine assertion.

Changing horses in mid stream seems to be your forte, make a statement and then swap horses.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-20   17:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: buckeroo (#146) (Edited)

How does Israel control America's oil supplies?

if israel controls american foreign policy, if israel and israeli americans were the main force behind these wars, if israel and israel americans and fellow travelers were not the main suspects for 9/11, if israel did not need to be secured before its american protector imploded from oil shortages, israel would have nothing to do with america's oil supplies.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Cynicom (#148)

Where would I obtain evidence of anything. That is an asinine assertion.

perhaps you'd like to explain why bibi thought 9/11 was such a good deal.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Horse (#0)

The revolution will be won in a single day

could be....

bible.cc/revelation/18-8.htm

America - Not Israeli
... money powers known in the Scripture as "Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother ... a study in itself - see my "Billions$ for the Bankers$ and Debts to the People" ... http://usa-the-republic.com/shel...mry/america%20not%israeli

[correction to the above article... the so-called "millennium" is about to end and the eternal kingdom of Christ is about to be firmly established, and the seed of Abraham is found in Galatians 3:16-29, not in race. Furthermore, "Babylon" in the book of Revelation referred to the money-changing Old Jerusalem, which had been God's wife, and became a whore. The new Zion, Christian America, is dwelling with her daughter: bible.cc/zechariah/2-7.htm ].

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-12-20   17:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: groundresonance (#149)

Too many "IFies" in your attempt at dialogue. You are akin to a kite flying high on a windy day; you don't get down to business.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   17:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: buckeroo (#152)

when we get down to business, the once and future king of israel thought 9/11 was a good deal.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: buckeroo (#152)

bibi is dumb as a mud fence, which is what makes him so uselful.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Cynicom, groundresonance (#136)

I take it the government was your "authoritative" source????

...as well as the media and the oil companies?

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   17:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: wudidiz (#155)

the media and the oil companies?

that's a real problem, isnt it?

the fact that the producers are bullshitting leads any rational person to believe they're bullshitting.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:46:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: groundresonance (#154)

I have no issue with Israel other than it was a fake creation by the UN backed by the USA and GB and has been supported by my US tax dollars from creation in 1947. I want my money back, too, as government should be considered as a method of honest ways to ensure our own well being ... not some others in a region of madness.

Israel does nothing for me just like your own dialogue diminishing the same.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   17:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: buckeroo (#157)

israel must be secured before its american protector collapses from oil shortages.

i really dont see what's so hard to figure out about that.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: groundresonance (#158)

Explain your perspective, "i really dont see what's so hard to figure out about that." Think of me as a little child attempting to learn from your vast repertoire of wisdom.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   17:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: buckeroo (#157)

in the back of your mind, you have to keep an awareness that israel has already been written off by the big money guys, who are only using israel and jewishness as protective coloration to deflect criticism.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: buckeroo (#159)

the usefullness of the holyhoax is practically unlimited once it's coupled to jewish control of american media.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: groundresonance (#156)

If the gov., the media and the oil companies say there is peak oil, the probability of there being peak oil is likely zero.

But hey, what do I know...

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   17:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: buckeroo (#159)

Think of me as a little child attempting to learn from your vast repertoire of wisdom.

Gee, buckaroo, I'm really not comfortable with groundresonance stealing my thoughts of you, especially not during the holiday season.....lol. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-20   17:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: wudidiz (#162) (Edited)

If the gov., the media and the oil companies say there is peak oil, the probability of there being peak oil is likely zero.

there's lots of collateral evidence.

why else would GMAC and goldman have blown up the housing bubble if they had no intenttion of popping it?

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   17:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: groundresonance (#160)

in the back of your mind, you have to keep an awareness that israel has already been written off by the big money guys, who are only using israel and jewishness as protective coloration to deflect criticism.

OK, first you claim Israel is th bad guy, now its the BIG money guys. What is next to learn from you Obiewankanobiee?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   18:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: buckeroo (#165) (Edited)

the problem seems to be the factions: there are people who are only using israel for protective coloration while they loot, then there are died-in-the- wool zionists.

the money guys will ditch israel in a minute if they can make money on the deal... meanwhile, they're being resisted, tooth and nail, by the zionists.

also meanwhile, there are oldline americans who are perfectly willing to give the jews enough rope to hang themselves.

jewish scapegoats oughta get the blue-blood americans off the hook, once the shit hits the fan, dont you think?

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   18:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: buckeroo (#165)

all this stuff is not so pretty hard to figure out.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   18:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: groundresonance (#167)

all this stuff is not so pretty hard to figure out.

How come it is so easy for you and it is so difficult for me? Are you blessed by GOD with some sort of gift?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   18:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: buckeroo (#168)

if you're impaired, i'm sorry.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   18:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: groundresonance (#169)

if you're impaired, i'm sorry.

Continuously, you claim some obvious ideologue. For some reason, I can't find any truth linked with the obvious, it must be as you suggest that I am somehow impaired or imperfect; yet this is chit-chat forum and you can't answer my explicit questions.

I guess something is wrong with me based upon your own posts. From your perspective, I am supposed to read your fucking mind....

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   18:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: buckeroo (#170)

well, the problem seems to be the factions: some jews want to secure israel.

some jews want money.

some old line americans are willing to scapegoat jews, in the belief that america can be saved if only we find someone to blame.

mostly, though, everyone knows that it's pretty radical downhill from now on, there's not much we can do about the geology of the situation, and the only thing left to do is stack up the loot and find someone to blame.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   18:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: buckeroo (#170)

i mean, how you gonna explain peak oil without blaming jews?

jews have made a career out of being blamed for everthing.

they like it.

that's how they make their living.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   18:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: groundresonance (#171)

And here ... all along, I thought the world's problems was about the spics, the blacks, the democrats, the Christians, the whores, the bull-shitters, the liars, the cheats, the illegal aliens, the god-damned communists, the government, the People, the lustful, the god-damned bastards and freaks that smoke dope.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   18:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: buckeroo (#173)

i guess being able to learn is a sign of life...

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   18:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: buckeroo (#173)

in the meantime, it would probably be a good idea to think of the implications of peak oil, and how peak oil applies to america and israel's survival.

if you are unwilling to do that, you're an idiot.

groundresonance  posted on  2009-12-20   18:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: RickyJ (#27)

The New Testament is not silent about the fact that God's kingdom is not of this Earth ..... He wasn't here to establish a Earthly kingdom

With all due respect, Ricky, maybe the destruction of that myth will be what brings it all down.

Jesus said "My kingdom is not NOW of this world" bible.cc/john/18-36.htm He said this before He was crucified. The Greek word used for "world" can be translated "government, constitution, ORDER of things." After centuries of warning them, He was about to destroy the Jews' world order. Upon His resurrection, Jesus created a New World Order; His.

In Matthew 13, Jesus tells a parable about the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven. He tells the disciples that it is like a man who plants good seed in His field....and the field is the world.

Jesus also told the Jews the kingdom would be taken from them and given to a nation bearing the fruit thereof. Jesus tells the Jews their nation/kingdom/religion is being cut down and let no fruit grow on it FOREVER. [ bible.cc/luke/13-6.htm ] In John 15:15-16 Jesus tells the disciples their fruit will remain. He also says in Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom." [See also Rev. 5:9-10].

During the Christmas season we sing of the Messiah: "For unto a child is born, a son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulder, and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace,"[Isaiah 9:6-7] and "Noel, Noel.....born is the King of Israel." [ bible.cc/john/1-49.htm ] The Jews in Palestine don't recognize Christ as the King of Israel. They say he was a false prophet who is boiling in hell and excrement, and whose mother was a whore. It is the Christians who claim Christ as King of Israel, because Christians ARE Israel. In II Samuel 7:10, God says He would APPOINT A PLACE for His people Israel and plant them, and they will move no more. Jesus said He was going to prepare a place for us. America was founded with a cross and a dedication to Christ and the spreading of the gospel. Matthew 13:41 says there is going to be a separation, and Christians [not fake Christians, but the real deal: Matthew 7:15-13 bible.cc/matthew/7-23.htm ] will remain in the kingdom. What if all Americans knew Jews have controlled the US Government since its founding [witness the Star of David over the eagle on the Great Seal (Ezekiel 17:7-10/Matthew 15:13)]. What if people understood the ramifications of these things?

The truth will make us free.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-12-20   18:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: wudidiz (#162)

If the gov., the media and the oil companies say there is peak oil, the probability of there being peak oil is likely zero.

Joe Vialls agreed with you. Search "Peak Oil a Zionist Myth"

He also said they want to lock up all the oil so they can invade America: http://www.samliquidation.com/nassi_3.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-12-20   18:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: groundresonance (#175)

if you are unwilling to do that, you're an idiot.

You have proved your point. You want to force your ideals and thoughts without any learned methods. You have failed the test.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-20   18:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: buckeroo (#132)

didn't they do a fantastic job killing and maiming and raping and creating chaos around the world while spreading the gospel? Why their murder count must be in the BILLIONS.

They sure set the world standard. The Arabs still haven't really recovered from the last time they played "The Muslims versus the Christians",and that was hundreds of years ago.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   19:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: groundresonance, all (#164)

there's lots of collateral evidence.

why else would GMAC and goldman have blown up the housing bubble if they had no intenttion of popping it?

What's the difference between a duck?

Everbody's on eggnog.

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   22:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, all (#177)

Joe Vialls agreed with you. Search "Peak Oil a Zionist Myth"

The Recurring Myth of Peak Oil

He also said they want to lock up all the oil so they can invade America: www.samliquidation.com/nassi_3.htm

Yikes.

Let's hope he's wrong about all that.

Merry Christmas


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-20   22:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Original_Intent (#95)

On his death bed Buddha protested and proclaimed that he was naught but a man seeking truth and was not deity and not to be deified.

..... excellent.

Strange: I just ran into a really cool little (eight inches tall) wood-carved praying/contemplating Buddha at a flea market. It is very graceful and quietly moving in appearance. For Christmas I will give it to someone who cares and matters.

Merry Christmas to you and yours, Original_Intent.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-21   8:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: sneakypete (#103)

Those people consider themselves to be "Citizens of the World",and the only Gods they worship are the twin Gods of greed and power. Their only loyalty is to themselves and their families,period.

.... agreed.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-21   8:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: sneakypete, Original_Intent (#107)

I get called a Jew-lover over here all the time,and a neo-Nazi anti-Semite over on LP.

LOL..... people are looking at your all-encompassing personality through a parabolic lens.

;-)

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-21   8:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: sneakypete (#112)

Don't waste your time on "humble" ......... it will just get you wasted.

;-)

LOL! ABSOLUTELY! It will be seen as a sign of weakness by the internet attack dogs,and they will come after you in full howl.

lol

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-21   8:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: sneakypete (#118)

The answer is simple. It's because they are not the same type of Jew or person as the fascist bastards causing all the trouble.

Just like people continue to be Catholics because they are not the type that sent armies of priests out to boil non-believers in oil.

Yes, sir.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-21   9:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Cynicom (#124)

If you read, someone made a categorical statement that oil HAD peaked.

It hasn't.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-21   9:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: groundresonance, Cynicom (#133)

and confirm that the year-on-year global oil production peaked in 2005.

SIMPLY

THAT info does not mean, suggest, or prove that oil production deep in the eath has peaked.

Get a grip.

beyond the sea  posted on  2009-12-21   9:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: wudidiz (#181) (Edited)

Understanding that America is prophetic Israel:

[ The United States Of America Foretold in Bible Prophecy
The United States Of America Foretold In The Holy Scriptures and. The Battle Of Armageddon. by Rev. F. E. Pitts Feb. 22 and 23, 1857 (About 145 years ago.) ... http://www.moseshand.com/studies/pitts.htm

The Battle of Armageddon
by Rev. F. E. Pitts. Feb. 22 and 23, 1857 (About 145 years ago. ... Who is the Gog/Magog to invade America? ... http://www.moseshand.com/studies/pitts3.htm

EXCERPTS (with my comments):

THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Foretold in the Holy Scriptures

"In two discourses delivered in the capitol of the United States, at the request of several members of Congress, on the anniversary of Washington's birthday in 1857.

(Reprinted from) ELEVENTH EDITION

Entered, according to Act of Congress, in the year 1857, by F. E. PITTS in the office of the Clerk of the District Court for the Middle District of Tennessee.

"Thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name." Psalm138:2

Doomed by an edict written in the sky, The monarchies of earth shall be no more: Heaven's sealed wonders open to the eye In rising glories on the western shore.

Baltimore
Published by J. W. Bull
proprietor of copyright.
1862
Introduction to 1862 booklet.

The theory of Armageddon, by the Rev. F. E. Pitts, has been in course of preparation for years. Immense research and mental labor have brought it into being: For nearly two years it has been before the public and met the favorable notice of many of the ablest journals and reviews in America.

Learned theologians, civilians and statesmen have freely accredited its truthfulness, and mathematicians pronounce its chronological argument demonstration. Indeed, almost all who examine it believe it. The exceptions to this rule are generally found amongst the subjects of the British Crown, or those who imagine that England, par excellence, is the model of the nations.

Having learned that Armageddon leaves the autocracy of Britain in the whirlpool too, they have become offended, and of course denounce it.

[ATKHWDI note: Here's why, in a nutshell: PSALM 2 and www.seekgod.ca/identity.htm and www.seekgod.ca/britisrael.htm and for good measure: http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unionjack_epilogue (I'm a heretic to sweetliberty because while I don't believe in the "Premil"/dispensationalist heresy, I DO believe Christ intends to establish His kingdom on earth, the WHOLE earth, FOREVER, as I explained to Ricky above, and as explained in Revelation 20:7-10.....)]

.....Mr. Pitts believing most firmly the principles and positions of the theory to be true, and that a correct appreciation of the subject is of untold interest to the American people, he has, from motives sincerely patriotic and pious, discussed the claims of this sublime theory before thousands of our coun­trymen in various portions of the United States.

Mr. Pitts certainly deserves the highest praise of his countrymen. Modest and unassuming, though a giant in intellect, and richly stored with the treasures of science, he has brought out a work that must elevate and encourage our noble confederacy more effectually than any book that has ap­peared since the birth of the Republic.

The work has now passed into the fourth edition, and will, we have no doubt, soon be issued by the hundred thousand. This book should be in the hands of every American citizen, because of the advance that it will give to true patriotism, and the enthusiasm that it has and necessarily will create for the Union......"

[ATHKWDI: rather than patriotism and the enthusiasm for the union under a despotic and antichrist government, I would hope it would wake them up to return this nation to Christ Isaiah 52, Michah 4:13, etc., but not to fear, the Bible says He will accomplish it.]

By [Rev.] F. E. Pitts 1857

Editors comment: As you read keep in mind that this sermon was preached 80 years after we became a nation and 4 years before the civil war.

[ATKHWDI Note: this was written when the US government was thought to be a good thing ["lamb (counterfeiting Christ/Christianity?) with 2 horns" (temporal and spiritual)?], and before the Rothschild-contrived "civil" war when the fraudulent 14th Amendment was used to make us complete and utter slaves to our owners (Genesis 15:13-14/Galatians 3:16-29): the Judeo-Masonic-British Empire-The City of London-Vatican, those who entered the sheepfold (John 10) without proper birth credentials (which are, being born again in the Spirit of the Lamb and wearing the white robes of HIS righteousness), and who entered "some other way", as a thief, who came not but to kill and steal, and began to speak as a dragon (symbol of Satan and the City of London, British Empire, Vatican, the Dragon bloodline, etc). That's just one interpretation; there are many. My point is that Rev. Pitts was stating his understanding of the situation based on the knowledge he had at that time. Therefore, I agree with most of his conclusions, but not all, because I have come to understand that the US Government was intended to permantly overthrow the charter and rights given to the Christians in the First Virginia Charter of 1606 (see Ezekiel 17:1-6 and "The Enduring Legacy of the First Landing" at http://wnd.com), and http://www.ismellarat.com / http://www.america-betrayed-1787.com The Jews have been waging holy war against America (Psalm 2) ever since the first permanent colonists planted that cross.]

There are always two sides.

Rev. Pitts and other clergymen of times past claimed that God established the United States in 1776 in fulfillment of Bible prophecy and that these united 13 colonies, now 50, are "the mountains of Israel" mentioned in Ezekiel 38.

[ATKHWDI note: "the mountains of Israel" are also mentioned in Ezekiel 34:11-13, where God said He would search out His Lost Sheep of the House of Israel and bring them to their own land. Jesus said "I AM not sent but unto the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel". See John 10 where He states who are, and who are not, the Sheep.]

Modern radio and TV evangelists disagree. They say, "The nation called Israeli established in 1948 by The United Nations in Palestine, that nation is the fulfillment of Bible prophecy.

Who is more correct?

Where and who are the "mountains of Israel" mentioned in Bible prophecy? Who will be invaded in the end-time? The United States or Palestine?

The "mountains of Israel" are the single Israeli nation in Palestine.

[or]

These "mountains of Israel" are the fifty United States in North America. ...."

[Rev. Pitts]:

"....The United States of America is the nationality that is promised in the prophetic Scriptures to arise in the latter times as Israel Restored. It has long been a favorite theory, both with Jewish and Christian writers, that the nationality to be gathered together in the latter days, was understood to mean the returned or restoration of the scattered sons of Abraham to the land of Palestine.

We are not surprised at the confidence with which this opinion has been entertained from age to age, because it is a legitimate a priori interpretation, seeing this nationality is called "Israel" by the prophets.

In a conversation had with a venerable Bishop of the Episcopal Church, he inquired of us: "Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'"......"

While Russia may very well invade America, as Rev. Pitts says [and no doubt, the Judeo-British Empire will be in the pack, either as troops and/or calling the shots from The City], the Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38-39 and Revelation 20:7-10 we now know from the work of Arthur Koestler [see "The Thirteenth Tribe", the green chart, at http://biblebelievers.org ], most likely refers to those, at least IN PART, who already came in great hordes "like a cloud to cover the land" [covertly] out of Russia, the Ashkenazi [Khazar] Jews, who control everything in this country, including the churches and immigration [from which they derive much of their fifth column, "the many bands with thee"]. Gog is their chief prince [leader]. BTW, the Smithsonian has a folk life festival every year, and this past summer Wales was one of the featured countries. [The dragon, I found out, was the symbol of Wales.] Prince Charles is the Prince of Wales, and there was a ceremony some years back where the Queen announced he was given his power and authority from the dragon. [or something like that.] Come to find out, Obama's mother was of Welsh descent as well. They had a tent dedicated to Obama's Welsh ancestry.

If America is Israel/New Jerusalem/the beloved city [the city built as "towns without walls": Zechariah 2/Ezekiel 38], and there is no doubt in my mind that it is, the Bible says Joe Vialls [and Rev. Pitts for the most part] were probably correct. If you do a couple of other searches, you will find that the Jews considered America THEIR New Jerusalem (search "Jews considered America their New Jerusalem Mystery Babylon Catholic or Jewish http://watch.pair.com".) If you search http://"watch.pair.com Death of the Phoenix Last Act for the United States America Babylon" you will find the Jews set out to make America appear as Babylon the Great so they defiled/corrupted America with their pornography and excesses and "the Jews religion was taught by America's churches", as Cornwallis predicted to George Washington. (Micah 4:11). It is they who have taught us to wage war. What they didn't tell us is it was they who were driving our chariots to fulfill their own agenda. "The Jews will be their own Messiah", and our job has been to serve them in that task.]

bible.cc/ezekiel/38-2.htm [my computer is full, but you can use that link to link to all of Ezekiel 38-39, Revelation 20:7-10]

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I started another search for you:

MYSTERY BABYLON 3
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT. CATHOLIC OR JEWISH? PART III. THE ILLUMINATI .... It seems that the Jews regarded America as the New Jerusalem: “. ... http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-3.html

DEATH OF THE PHOENIX: FINAL ACT FOR THE USA ... New World Order envisioned by the Judeo-Freemasons would be the Jews' "New Jerusalem" ... [ See Mystery Babylon: Catholic or Jewish? ... http://watch.pair.com/death-phoenix.html

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hopefully, that fixed the link to DEATH OF THE PHOENIX. Excerpt:

".... To justify the destruction of the USA, the Judeo-Freemasons must now portray America as “Babylon the Great” collapsing under the wrath of God, per Revelation 18. Surely, “Ichabod,” which means “the glory has departed,” could apply the United States in its degenerate condition today, yet the propagandists never mention that the Jewish-owned and controlled entertainment media has led the United States down the broad road to moral destruction.

Moreover, the Judeo-Masonic cabal must inflame the people of the world against Americans so that when their beloved country falls, the world will rejoice, never suspecting the truth. Which is why the ubiquitous propaganda mills on the Internet continuously revile the USA as “Babylon” and even gloat over its imminent demise. In 1921, Henry Ford exposed this shell game in his powerful expose, The International Jew:

“It is a most important consideration that most of the national animosities that exist today arose out of resentment against what Jewish money power did under the camouflage of national names.

“‘The British did this,’ ‘The Germans did this,’ when it was the International Jew who did it, the nations being but the marked spaces on his checker board. Today, around the world the blaming word is heard, ‘The United States did this. If it were not for the United States the world would be in a better shape. The Americans are a sordid, greedy, cruel people.’

“Why? Because the Jewish money power is centered here and is making money out of both our immunity and Europe’s distress, playing one against the other; and because so many so-called ‘American business men’ abroad today are not Americans at all - they are Jews.

“Citizens wake up with a start to find that even the white nations are hardly allowed to see each other nowadays except through Jewish eyes. Great Britain and France seldom see a special American spokesman who is not a Jew. That may be the reason why they reciprocate by sending Jews to us, thinking perhaps that we prefer them.” (The International Jew : Chapter 1)

This strategy has succeeded to the point that International Jewry now controls the governments of the world. By “International Jewry” is meant the high cabal of Jews who designate themselves the Learned Elders of Sion or, alternatively, the Priory of Zion or Prieuré de Sion. Under the direction of this high cabal of International Jewry is a global network of Masonic societies. The term “Judeo-Freemasonry” describes this network of secret societies more accurately than “Freemasonry” because it conveys the reality that these fraternities, the majority of which are comprised of Gentiles, are under the covert government of B’nai B’rith, which is under the direction of the Learned Elders of Sion of the 33º.

Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, a major pioneer of Reform Judaism in America, stated in 1855: “Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.” (See: Heeding Bible Prophecy: New Israel)

The Jewish Tribune stated in 1927, “Freemasonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?”

The agenda of International Jewry, called “Zionism,” is the reestablishment of the Kingdom of Israel to rule over the Gentile world. “Zionists” are agents of the high cabal who promote the agenda of the Elders of Sion, which also includes the destruction of Christianity in all of its forms. The terms “International Jewry” and “Zionist” do not apply to all Jews, but to those Jews who have rejected the God of Israel and, through deception and intrigue, are carrying out the directives of their god, Lucifer. [See: Mystery Babylon the Great: Catholic or Jewish?] ....."

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-12-21   10:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Artisan (#26) (Edited)

Palestinians are being exterminated today by these people and their evil beliefs. Why no concern for them?

look into my eyes - Outlandish www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfKyZkt4SNs

great song

It IS a great song. Thanks for posting. I'll be passing that one along.

A link I found at whatistaxed.com/who_would_jesus_tax.htm under "War":

"....What does a 'Caesar' do after taking your tax money? Isn't war frequently one of "the things that are Caesar's"? Over the last 100 years, the United States alone has been averaging one war for every 16 years. The last serveral "wars" weren't even declared by Congress, the only ones legally able to do so, thus they were illegal actions, just invasions for the god of mammon.

And, all these wars are just scams of merchants and mercenaries. No need to believe us, silly data miners, just Google "War is a racket" by General Smedley Butler. It's a free e-book everyone should read.

This doesn't even include the smaller military actions, such as bombing Serbians, the Iran-Contra 'affair', or the invasion of Panama and the capture of Panama's leader, Noriega. (When Noriega was asked, "who is your drug dealing partner?", he said, George Bush)

Warning: This is very graphic, but then you have already played your part - you've payed tribute for this, and even sacrificed your own sons and daughters. (Google "War is a racket" by General Smedley Butler)......."

Links to ATROCITIES - Very Graphic: [edit: it's mostly about Palestine.]

www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/atrocities.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-12-21   11:46:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Horse (#190)

I think it's appropriate to link your recent thread here:

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=111945 Video: Christmas in the Holy Land and your comment:

Poster Comment:

Video: When celebrating Christmas, it would be a good idea to think about the birthplace of Jesus. What is like in the Holy Land under occupation, injustice and racism? How does Christmas feel when the Holy Land is under siege?

Thank you, Horse, for posting these.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-12-21   12:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: beyond the sea (#182)

On his death bed Buddha protested and proclaimed that he was naught but a man seeking truth and was not deity and not to be deified.

..... excellent.

Strange: I just ran into a really cool little (eight inches tall) wood-carved praying/contemplating Buddha at a flea market. It is very graceful and quietly moving in appearance. For Christmas I will give it to someone who cares and matters.

Gauttama Siddhartha, The Buddha (which means "Enlightened One" - derived from bodhi or "enlightened") is a very interesting historical figure. Born a Prince into a warrior class he gave it all up to seek the greatest of treasures:

What is it all about?

What does it all mean?

In the process of making his own search and sharing what he discovered he civilized a continent and left a legacy of wisdom which still affects our modern world some 2500 years later. Not bad for one lifetime.

All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. ~ Gauttama Siddhartha - The Buddha

An idea that is developed and put into action is more important than an idea that exists only as an idea. ~ Gauttama Siddhartha - The Buddha

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
~ Gauttama Siddhartha - The Buddha

Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. ~ Gauttama Siddhartha - The Buddha

He is able who thinks he is able. ~ Gauttama Siddhartha - The Buddha

Merry Christmas!

"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't. ~ Anatole France

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-21   12:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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