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Title: Supreme Court Guts Due Process Protection
Source: naked capitalism
URL Source: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009 ... ts-due-process-protection.html
Published: Dec 20, 2009
Author: unattributed
Post Date: 2009-12-22 07:51:19 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 452
Comments: 29

Reader Walter passed along this distressing sighting from Chris Floyd’s blog. American civil liberties were gutted last week, and the media failed to take note of it.

The development? If the president or one of his subordinates declares someone to be an “enemy combatant” (the 21st century version of “enemy of the state”) he is denied any protection of the law. So any trouble-maker (which means anyone) can be whisked away, incarcerated, tortured, “disappeared,” you name it. Floyd’s commentary:

After hearing passionate arguments from the Obama Administration, the Supreme Court acquiesced to the president’s fervent request and, in a one-line ruling, let stand a lower court decision that declared torture an ordinary, expected consequence of military detention, while introducing a shocking new precedent for all future courts to follow: anyone who is arbitrarily declared a “suspected enemy combatant” by the president or his designated minions is no longer a “person.” They will simply cease to exist as a legal entity. They will have no inherent rights, no human rights, no legal standing whatsoever — save whatever modicum of process the government arbitrarily deigns to grant them from time to time, with its ever-shifting tribunals and show trials.

It is hard to overstate the significance of this horrid decision. The fact that the Supreme Court authorized this land grab says we no longer have an independent judiciary, that the Supreme Court itself is gutting the protections supposedly provided by the legal system. Per Floyd:

In fact, our most august defenders of the Constitution did not have to exert themselves in the slightest to eviscerate not merely 220 years of Constitutional jurisprudence but also centuries of agonizing effort to lift civilization a few inches out of the blood-soaked mire that is our common human legacy. They just had to write a single sentence.

Now Floyd saw this mainly as an issue of the treatment of enemy combatants and Obama hypocrisy about torture, which is bad enough:

The Constitution is clear: no person can be held without due process; no person can be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. And the U.S. law on torture of any kind is crystal clear: it is forbidden, categorically, even in time of “national emergency.” And the instigation of torture is, under U.S. law, a capital crime. No person can be tortured, at any time, for any reason, and there are no immunities whatsoever for torture offered anywhere in the law.

And yet this is what Barack Obama — who, we are told incessantly, is a super-brilliant Constitutional lawyer — has been arguing in case after case since becoming president: Torturers are immune from prosecution; those who ordered torture are immune from prosecution….let’s be absolutely clear: Barack Obama has taken the freely chosen, public, formal stand — in court — that there is nothing wrong with any of these activities.

Yves here. The implications are FAR worse. Anyone can be stripped, with NO RECOURSE, of all their legal rights on a Presidential say so. Readers in the US no longer have any security under the law.

Roman citizens enjoyed a right to a trial, a right of appeal, and could not be tortured, whipped, or executed except if found guilty of treason, and anyone charged with treason could demand a trial in Rome. We have regressed more than 2000 years with this appalling ruling.

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#5. To: Ferret Mike, Weasel Mike, christine, farmfriend, TwentyTwelve, HOUNDDAWG, Esso, Rotara, wudidiz, Tom007, Jethro Tull, bluegrass, Itistoolate, enemies of freedom, Robin, Aristeides, O'tards, fools, dupes, knaves, suckers, varlets, rubes, Marks, all (#0)

By their fruits ye may know them.

Thanks for the change O'tards. You got your pharmaceutical company support bill, over 50% taxation, a renewal of the un-Patriot Act, More War, your left wing totaltarian Police State, we can now have torture chambers for all those reactionaries who doubted that the Obamessiah would come through. Yay team.

CHANGE WE CAN BE TORTURED FOR!

DER FUHRER IST DER TAG!

COMRADE STALIN IS THE MILK OF HUMAN KINDNESS.

HOPE!

Dear God, I hope people wake up soon.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-22   17:04:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent, *What Voting for Obama got Ya* (#5)

When O was running for the nomination, we told the TARDS that everything you mentioned above would happen. Looking back, it's not only all happened, but it's been WORSE than we expected. O'Bummer has tripled the spending of Bush, widened the war in Afghanistan and extended it into Pakistan. Just yesterday, the SOB bombed Yemen killing 160 (+/-). Go take a look at the Nest where the human turds ignore the death and debt that we ALL hung on Bush's neck. They're talking about Orly and 9-11.....It's no wonder they fled. Had they stayed they would be torn to shreds for being supporters of war, uncontrollable spending and a leftist domestic policy that runs counter to personal freedom.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-12-22   17:21:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

we told the TARDS that everything you mentioned above would happen. Looking back, it's not only all happened, but it's been WORSE than we expected

And the alternative was????

We all knew what voting for Mccain would bring. And yes I see it was not much diff from O.

I bet on the long shot and seems we have all lost.

tom007  posted on  2009-12-22   20:22:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tom007 (#16)

Find us a place to relocate to in the MX.

Thanks much.

Lod  posted on  2009-12-22   20:27:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: Lod (#17)

Find us a place to relocate to in the MX.

After 17,000 miles driven in Mexico and countless trips, I have found it - and so have the Canadians. But I like them.

Small fishing village, beautiful sea bay, great inexpensive accomodations, fantastic resturants and street food that was fabulous, friendly unstressed people and a major city an hour away, bus fare, IIRC, about four dollars.

Our perfectly great hotel room, with an expansive patio and simple kitchen was $17 a night - would have been $14 if we had booked for a week.

This was at the height of the USD v MXD x change, so things are priciery buy now about 10-12 % now.

And Colima, a colonial capital, above the heat is maybe 2.5 hours away, by bus.

Safe? This area is as safe as your grandfather's farm. No poverty, that I could see, a pretty happy area of Mexico.

Sue and I just gave ourselves a Christmas present - a ticket to Puerto Vallarta this March, and a bus ticket 120 miles S to Melaque. The bus ticket was $11, last year. Take some dramine, its a curvery ride, sleep is better than throwing up ( don't ask us how we know this).

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