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Title: Americans Are Hell-Bent on Tyranny
Source: VDARE
URL Source: http://vdare.com/roberts/091221_tyranny.htm
Published: Dec 21, 2009
Author: Paul Craig Roberts
Post Date: 2009-12-22 23:56:02 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 218
Comments: 18

Obama’s dwindling band of true believers has taken heart that their man has finally delivered on one of his many promises—the closing of the Guantanamo prison. But the prison is not being closed. It is being moved to Illinois, if the Republicans permit.

In truth, Obama has handed his supporters another defeat. Closing Guantanamo meant ceasing to hold people in violation of our legal principles of habeas corpus and due process and ceasing to torture them in violation of US and international laws.

All Obama would be doing would be moving 100 people, against whom the US government is unable to bring a case, from the prison in Guantanamo to a prison in Thomson, Illinois.

Are the residents of Thomson despondent that the US government has chosen their town as the site on which to continue its blatant violation of US legal principles? No, the residents are happy. It means jobs.

The hapless prisoners had a better chance of obtaining release from Guantanamo. Now the prisoners are up against two US senators, a US representative, a mayor, and a state governor who have a vested interest in the prisoners’ permanent detention in order to protect the new prison jobs in the hamlet devastated by unemployment.

Neither the public nor the media have ever shown any interest in how the detainees came to be incarcerated. Most of the detainees were unprotected people who were captured by Afghan war lords and sold to the Americans as “terrorists” in order to collect a proffered bounty. It was enough for the public and the media that the Defense Secretary at the time, Donald Rumsfeld, declared the Guantanamo detainees to be the “780 most dangerous people on earth.”

The vast majority have been released after years of abuse. The 100 who are slated to be removed to Illinois have apparently been so badly abused that the US government is afraid to release them because of the testimony the prisoners could give to human rights organizations and foreign media about their mistreatment.

Our British allies are showing more moral conscience than Americans are able to muster. Former PM Tony Blair, who provided cover for President Bush’s illegal invasion of Iraq, is being damned for his crimes by UK officialdom testifying before the Chilcot Inquiry.

The London Times on December 14 summed up the case against Blair in a headline: “Intoxicated by Power, Blair Tricked Us Into War.” Two days later the British First Post declared: “War Crime Case Against Tony Blair Now Rock-solid.” In an unguarded moment Blair let it slip that he favored a conspiracy for war regardless of the validity of the excuse [weapons of mass destruction] used to justify the invasion.

The movement to bring Blair to trial as a war criminal is gathering steam. Writing in the First Post Neil Clark reported: “There is widespread contempt for a man [Blair] who has made millions [his reward from the Bush regime] while Iraqis die in their hundreds of thousands due to the havoc unleashed by the illegal invasion, and who, with breathtaking arrogance, seems to regard himself as above the rules of international law.” Clark notes that the West’s practice of shipping Serbian and African leaders off to the War Crimes Tribunal, while exempting itself, is wearing thin.

In the US, of course, there is no such attempt to hold to account Bush, Cheney, Condi Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and the large number of war criminals that comprised the Bush Regime. Indeed, Obama, whom Republicans love to hate, has gone out of his way to protect the Bush cohort from being held accountable.

Here in Great Moral America we only hold accountable celebrities and politicians for their sexual indiscretions. Tiger Woods is paying a bigger price for his girlfriends than Bush or Cheney will ever pay for the deaths and ruined lives of millions of people. The consulting company, Accenture Plc, which based its marketing program on Tiger Woods, has removed Woods from its Web site. Gillette announced that the company is dropping Woods from its print and broadcast ads. AT&T says it is re-evaluating the company’s relationship with Woods.

Apparently, Americans regard sexual infidelity as far more serious than invading countries on the basis of false charges and deception, invasions that have caused the deaths and displacement of millions of innocent people. Remember, the House impeached President Clinton not for his war crimes in Serbia, but for lying about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Americans are more upset by Tiger Woods’ sexual affairs than they are by the Bush and Obama administrations’ destruction of US civil liberty. Americans don’t seem to mind that “their” government for the last 8 years has resorted to the detention practices of 1,000 years ago—simply grab a person and throw him into a dungeon forever without bringing charges and obtaining a conviction.

According to polls, Americans support torture, a violation of both US and international law, and Americans don’t mind that their government violates the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and spies on them without obtaining warrants from a court. Apparently, the brave citizens of the “sole remaining superpower” are so afraid of terrorists that they are content to give up liberty for safety, an impossible feat.

With stunning insouciance, Americans have given up the rule of law that protected their liberty. The silence of law schools and bar associations indicates that the age of liberty has passed. In short, the American people support tyranny. And that’s where they are headed.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

With stunning insouciance, Americans have given up the rule of law that protected their liberty.

This actually happened when Abraham Lincoln went to war on the Confederate states. The continuing US government disregard for state sovereignty and personal or individual rights liberties and freedoms have lead towards the manifest that the Constitution is really just some shitcanned parchment.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-23   0:17:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-23   9:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

Black Obama, Jews and lawyers will transform America into a Bolshevik paradise.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2009-12-23   9:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#0)

The Obama Administration is not a tyranny. It's true that he hasn't been able to keep most of his promises -- in just the first 11 monts of a 4 year term -- but keep in mind that since Election Day 2008 the Bush Administration triggered an economic crisis, and failed to resolve an enormous number of problems we didn't have before Bush took office. Also, the Republican minority in Congress is dedicated to sabotaging as many Obama proposals as possible. Moreover, the word tyranny suggests a loss of liberty; I haven't seen that happen under Obama.

The closest we had to tyranny was under Dubya. In the name of security we are nearly (and sometimes actually) strip-searched at airports, and no longer permitted to buy airplane or train tickets anonymously. Scooping up Arab- Americans and keeping them incommunicado, without access to a lawyer or a court. Perhaps the most obvious stunt was Bush's secret tapping of everyone's telephone calls -- when journalists broke the story of how Bush was blatantly violating the Fourth Amendment, the Bushitters started whining that the journalists, not the eavesdroppers, should be prosecuted. When Bush simply ignored the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act - his excuse was that it was 20 years old so it could be ignored - we all knew his attitude about the Bill of Rights.

Shoonra  posted on  2009-12-23   13:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Shoonra (#4)

Obama’s dwindling band of true believers

They opened their article with a reference to you and those of your ilk. You are by Obama like the Bushtards were about their hero and the Klintonoids about theirs--to their true believers it wouldn't matter if any one of them shot some innocent person on the steps of the Supreme Court or the White House lawn. You (and they) would find an excuse for your hero. You sycophants have blinders on when it comes to your hero(es).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-12-23   14:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Shoonra (#4)

You are nothing more than a war mongering neocon, no different than the Dick Cheney's and Bill Krystol's of the world. How does it feel to walk hand in hand with George Bush and Dick Cheney? How does it feel to be an ideological brother to David Horowitz and Sean Hannity?

Your boy has gone along with every piece of freedom stripping legislation George Bush started. His justice department even argued in court to strip American citizens of their due process on the mere whim of the president. He could have refused to take that case to the USSC but instead championed it. And yet here you are making excuses for him. You are a despicable piece of shit

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-23   14:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: James Deffenbach, Shoonra (#5)

Shoonra is a neocon blood dancer

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-23   14:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#6)

You are nothing more than a war mongering neocon, no different than the Dick Cheney's and Bill Krystol's of the world. How does it feel to walk hand in hand with George Bush and Dick Cheney? How does it feel to be an ideological brother to David Horowitz and Sean Hannity?

Your boy has gone along with every piece of freedom stripping legislation George Bush started. His justice department even argued in court to strip American citizens of their due process on the mere whim of the president. He could have refused to take that case to the USSC but instead championed it. And yet here you are making excuses for him. You are a despicable piece of shit

Great post. Doubt it will get through to him but it's still good.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-12-23   14:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#8) (Edited)

We all said that the Obama supporters would flip flop if he won. They have not let us down. They now support everything that they condemned less than a year ago. Shoonra and his/her ilk are carbon copies of their republicrat brethren. They have more in common with each other than they do with those of us not caught up in the two party fraud.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-23   14:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Shoonra (#4)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-23   14:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: James Deffenbach (#5)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-23   14:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-23   14:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-23   14:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton, shoonra (#10)

We are all wasting out time with this one. If you look at his/her posting history, s/he is a drive by poster. As a neocon, s/he is too cowardly to defend their posts, just like they are too cowardly to participate in the wars they champion.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-23   14:46:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

And then they scratch their little noodles and wonder why the tack right, tack left, tack right, tack left, etc. path straight into hell.

You had noticed that too, eh?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-12-23   14:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#14)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-23   14:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, shoonra (#14)

We are all wasting out time with this one. If you look at his/her posting history, s/he is a drive by poster. As a neocon, s/he is too cowardly to defend their posts, just like they are too cowardly to participate in the wars they champion.

I think "shoonra" is a sock puppet and is actually the weasel posting under a different nic to make it appear that Obama has two supporters, not just one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-12-23   14:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-23   15:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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