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Title: Break up the CIA, says fmr. Reagan intel staffer
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URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/break-cia-fmr-reagan-staffer/
Published: Dec 25, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-12-25 09:36:53 by tom007
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Break up the CIA, says fmr. Reagan intel staffer By Daniel Tencer Wednesday, December 23rd, 2009 -- 7:40 pm Share on Facebook Stumble This! Ray McGovern Break up the CIA, says fmr. Reagan intel stafferArguing that "covert action and analysis do not belong together in the same agency," a former CIA agent who prepared intelligence briefings for President Reagan in the 1980s says the CIA should be broken in two. Ray McGovern, who gained attention in recent years after founding the activist group Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, wrote in an article published Wednesday that the two primary functions the CIA carries out -- gathering intelligence and executing covert operations abroad -- are at odds with each other, and keeping the two functions together harms the US's foreign policy interests. In an article published at ConsortiumNews, McGovern argued that the CIA's dual missions conflict with one another, as the CIA has to objectively assess the effect of its own missions on foreign policy goals. Think about it for a minute. You are ordered and given funding to conduct Predator attacks on “suspected al-Qaeda bases” in Pakistan. (U.S. armed forces cannot do it since the Pentagon is not supposed to be striking countries with whom we are not at war.) You salute, find some contractors to help, and conduct those attacks. The President then asks his CIA morning briefer about the effectiveness of the drone attacks, including the longer-term political as well as military effects. When the briefer checks with the substantive analysts watching Pakistan, he learns that the attacks are very effective — indeed, the very best recruitment tool Osama bin Laden and the Taliban could imagine. Story continues below... Jihadists are flocking to Pakistan and Afghanistan like moths to a light blub. ... Do you think mealy-mouthed CIA Director Leon Panetta will have the courage to whisper that unwelcome finding to the President? In his piece, McGovern points out that there was a lot of discussion and concern about the CIA's role during the agency's early years, after it was created by the National Security Act in the late 1940s. He cites an editorial by former President Harry Truman, published in the Washington Post one month after the JFK assassination, that raised serious concerns about the nature of the CIA, an agency created by a bill signed by Truman in 1948. "For some time I have been disturbed by the way CIA has been diverted from its original assignment," Truman wrote. "It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas." Truman concluded that "there is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it." McGovern noted that other government officials expressed similar alarm about the agency in its nascent years. [Truman era] Defense Secretary James Forrestal didn’t want the Pentagon to be responsible for covert action in peacetime. And, to their credit, neither did senior leaders of the fledgling CIA. They were no neophytes, and could see that covert operations might easily end up tainting the intelligence product if one Director were responsible for the two incompatible activities. The experience of the past 62 years has showed, time and time again, that their concern was well founded as the covert action side has not only polluted CIA analyses but also expanded into high-tech warfare. In the early 2000s, McGovern became a harsh critic of the Bush administration's use of intelligence in building the case for an invasion of Iraq. In 2006, he gained media attention when he confronted then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld during a 2006 speech in Atlanta, asking Rumsfeld, "Why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary and that has caused these kinds of casualties?" McGovern started out with the CIA as an analyst on the Soviet Union and Vietnam. By the 1980s, he was preparing intelligence briefings for President Reagan, a duty he continued for President George H. W. Bush. Read McGovern's complete article here.
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
Not good enough. It should be disbanded, totally, every last person should be retired or given a severance bonus. There is NO OTHER WAY. They must cease to exist.
Yep, we would be liberated by such dissolution. It's long overdue. I'll never live to see that happy day.
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick
One of the big problems is that, as part of the Patriot Act, Dubya invented another bureaucratic layer to the intelligence system, a national intelligence authority, that was above the CIA .... and doing exactly the job that the CIA itself was meant to do, coordinating the various intel agencies such as Defense Intel, Diplomatic, etc. There was no good reason to do this, when a possible housecleaning or restructuring of the CIA would have sufficed. The result is that even more delay, and more bureaucratic blindness, as intelligence information must percolate up through yet one more bureacracy which is even less answerable to Congress.
Brilliant interview! Good find and thank you for taking the time to share.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
You mean that same Patriot Act that your Lord and savior Barack Obama supports? How's that change working out for you neocon? Are you enjoying dancing in the blood of our troops and the Iraqi, Afghani, Yemeni, and Pakistani peoples?
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
I do not understand why f4um members allow this Obamatard neocon to get away with this bullshit without any comment. Just about every one of her posts is her blaming the Bush neocons for this and that while trying to pretend that Obama isn't embracing the very same monstrosities, whether it be the WOT, torture, or the taking away of Due Process from American citizens. Her remarks are no different than the Republicrats trying to bitch about liberal spending habits and big government after eight years of George Bush. We would not allow Republicrats to get away with this bullshit on this site so I don't understand why I am the only one calling her on her bullshit.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
I just noticed you were chit-chatting here at 4um. What do you think of post#1?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Obama Quietly Backs Renewing Patriot Act Surveillance Provisions www.alternet.org/rights/1...ks_renewing_patriot_act_s urveillance_provisions/ Under the radar, Obama pushes for Patriot Act renewal
ping me when an Obot tool has the balls to take on reality...
Shoonra will either not answer at all or will find some way to blame George Bush for the actions of Obama. Neither Democans nor Republicrats are known for taking responsibility for their actions.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
#2. To: tom007 (#0)
CIA should be broken in two.
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
#4. To: tom007 (#0)
#5. To: Disgusted (#1)
#6. To: Shoonra (#4)
One of the big problems is that, as part of the Patriot Act, Dubya invented another bureaucratic layer to the intelligence system, a national intelligence authority, that was above the CIA .... and doing exactly the job that the CIA itself was meant to do, coordinating the various intel agencies such as Defense Intel, Diplomatic, etc. There was no good reason to do this, when a possible housecleaning or restructuring of the CIA would have sufficed. The result is that even more delay, and more bureaucratic blindness, as intelligence information must percolate up through yet one more bureacracy which is even less answerable to Congress.
#7. To: Shoonra, all (#4)
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#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)
#9. To: Shoonra, F.A. Hayek Fan (#4)
#10. To: christine (#9)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#11. To: christine, Obama (#9)
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