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Title: Glacier Retreat Has Beneficial Impact on Climate Change
Source: Drudge Report
URL Source: http://www.drudge.com/news/128421/g ... -retreat-has-beneficial-impact
Published: Dec 28, 2009
Author: staff
Post Date: 2009-12-28 03:18:30 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 806
Comments: 86

ScienceDaily (Nov. 10, 2009) Large blooms of tiny marine plants called phytoplankton are flourishing in areas of open water left exposed by the recent and rapid melting of ice shelves and glaciers around the Antarctic Peninsula. This remarkable colonisation is having a beneficial impact on climate change. As the blooms die back phytoplankton sinks to the sea-bed where it can store carbon for thousands or millions of years.

The retreat of glaciers since 1850 affects the availability of fresh water for irrigation and domestic use, mountain recreation, animals and plants that depend on glacier-melt, and in the longer term, the level of the oceans. Studied by glaciologists, the temporal coincidence of glacier retreat with the measured increase of atmospheric greenhouse gases is often cited as an evidentiary underpinning of global warming. Mid-latitude mountain ranges such as the Himalayas, Alps, Rocky Mountains, Cascade Range, and the southern Andes, as well as isolated tropical summits such as Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa, are showing some of the largest proportionate glacial loss.(IPCC)(Mlg). It is estimated the total area of extrapolar glaciers will have shrunk from 500,000 to 100,000 km by the year 2350.[1]

The Little Ice Age was a period from about 1550 to 1850 when the world experienced relatively cooler temperatures compared to the present. Subsequently, until about 1940, glaciers around the world retreated as the climate warmed substantially. Glacial retreat slowed and even reversed temporarily, in many cases, between 1950 and 1980 as a slight global cooling occurred. However, since 1980 a significant global warming has led to glacier retreat becoming increasingly rapid and ubiquitous, so much so that some glaciers have disappeared altogether, and the existence of a great number of the remaining glaciers of the world is threatened. In locations such as the Andes of South America and Himalayas in Asia, the demise of glaciers in these regions will have potential impact on water supplies. The retreat of mountain glaciers, notably in western North America, Asia, the Alps, Indonesia and Africa, and tropical and subtropical regions of South America, has been used to provide qualitative evidence for the rise in global temperatures since the late 19th century.(IPCC2) (NSIDC) The recent substantial retreat and an acceleration of the rate of retreat since 1995 of a number of key outlet glaciers of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets, may foreshadow a rise in sea level, having a potentially dramatic effect on coastal regions worldwide.


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Since the majority of the glaciers around the world are undeniably melting, how on Earth is the average temperature of the planet decreasing?

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#1. To: buckeroo, *Global Climate Change* (#0)

Since the majority of the glaciers around the world are undeniably melting, how on Earth is the average temperature of the planet decreasing?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-28   4:30:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz, farmfriend, buckeroo, all (#1)

877 new snowfall records set or tied in the USA last week

Growing Glaciers

Antarctic Ice Growing

World Sea Ice 25 Year High

ICE not fire may be the bigger worry

Sea Levels Falling not Rising

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-29   12:37:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#14)

You have your eye off-the-ball by looking at a few sample points. I am always discussing general trends not a single point phenomena.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-29   13:13:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#15)

You have your eye off-the-ball by looking at a few sample points. I am always discussing general trends not a single point phenomena.

Geez, now that's a big line of bovine excrement there Bucky. You generally use "general trends" that never clearly demonstrate "man made" global warming. You say, look there are more people and we have more of this or that, but that isn't any kind of scientific determination.

You are saying, without any data to back it up, that if you have more of this you get more of that. What folks are asking you for is not more graphs but some sort of scientific data to back up the CORRELATION you continue to make.

By the way, there is subtantial data indicating that the earth's poles are moving and have been moving for some time. There is significant data indicating that such movement will cuase climate change. How can you blame a larger population for shifing of the poles, Bucky? Here we have a genuine explanation for the phenomenon you keep blaming on over population. How can we spin this pole shift into a human caused problem?

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-29   14:12:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas (#32)

You generally use "general trends" that never clearly demonstrate "man made" global warming. You say, look there are more people and we have more of this or that, but that isn't any kind of scientific determination.

See my post #10-11. If those graphs don't link generally increasing temperatures and generally increasing human population growth together.... there just isn't anyway I can convince you. But it won't mean I won't continue to try, either.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-29   14:20:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#33)

See my post #10-11. If those graphs don't link generally increasing temperatures and generally increasing human population growth together.... there just isn't anyway I can convince you. But it won't mean I won't continue to try, either.

The graphs do not make a correlation just because they go together, Bucky. During that same period of time the poles were moving, yet your graph doesn't account for this. During the same time there were major differences in solar flares, yet your graph doesn't account for that.

Your graph accounts for increased population and increased temperature and you only see these two events happening simultaneously while omitting ALL other factors. Hence, you claim that indeed A must mean B, but that doesn't make it so. Simply because you have two events happening simultaneously, doesn't mean that one is causing the other to happen. Where is the evidence that the population increase causes the warming? I see your link, but this is not scientific proof of anything other than two events occuring simultaneously, which happens all the time.

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