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Title: Glacier Retreat Has Beneficial Impact on Climate Change
Source: Drudge Report
URL Source: http://www.drudge.com/news/128421/g ... -retreat-has-beneficial-impact
Published: Dec 28, 2009
Author: staff
Post Date: 2009-12-28 03:18:30 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 1140
Comments: 86

ScienceDaily (Nov. 10, 2009) Large blooms of tiny marine plants called phytoplankton are flourishing in areas of open water left exposed by the recent and rapid melting of ice shelves and glaciers around the Antarctic Peninsula. This remarkable colonisation is having a beneficial impact on climate change. As the blooms die back phytoplankton sinks to the sea-bed where it can store carbon for thousands or millions of years.

The retreat of glaciers since 1850 affects the availability of fresh water for irrigation and domestic use, mountain recreation, animals and plants that depend on glacier-melt, and in the longer term, the level of the oceans. Studied by glaciologists, the temporal coincidence of glacier retreat with the measured increase of atmospheric greenhouse gases is often cited as an evidentiary underpinning of global warming. Mid-latitude mountain ranges such as the Himalayas, Alps, Rocky Mountains, Cascade Range, and the southern Andes, as well as isolated tropical summits such as Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa, are showing some of the largest proportionate glacial loss.(IPCC)(Mlg). It is estimated the total area of extrapolar glaciers will have shrunk from 500,000 to 100,000 km by the year 2350.[1]

The Little Ice Age was a period from about 1550 to 1850 when the world experienced relatively cooler temperatures compared to the present. Subsequently, until about 1940, glaciers around the world retreated as the climate warmed substantially. Glacial retreat slowed and even reversed temporarily, in many cases, between 1950 and 1980 as a slight global cooling occurred. However, since 1980 a significant global warming has led to glacier retreat becoming increasingly rapid and ubiquitous, so much so that some glaciers have disappeared altogether, and the existence of a great number of the remaining glaciers of the world is threatened. In locations such as the Andes of South America and Himalayas in Asia, the demise of glaciers in these regions will have potential impact on water supplies. The retreat of mountain glaciers, notably in western North America, Asia, the Alps, Indonesia and Africa, and tropical and subtropical regions of South America, has been used to provide qualitative evidence for the rise in global temperatures since the late 19th century.(IPCC2) (NSIDC) The recent substantial retreat and an acceleration of the rate of retreat since 1995 of a number of key outlet glaciers of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets, may foreshadow a rise in sea level, having a potentially dramatic effect on coastal regions worldwide.


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Since the majority of the glaciers around the world are undeniably melting, how on Earth is the average temperature of the planet decreasing?

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#1. To: buckeroo, *Global Climate Change* (#0)

Since the majority of the glaciers around the world are undeniably melting, how on Earth is the average temperature of the planet decreasing?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-28   4:30:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz, farmfriend, buckeroo, all (#1)

877 new snowfall records set or tied in the USA last week

Growing Glaciers

Antarctic Ice Growing

World Sea Ice 25 Year High

ICE not fire may be the bigger worry

Sea Levels Falling not Rising

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-29   12:37:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#14)

You have your eye off-the-ball by looking at a few sample points. I am always discussing general trends not a single point phenomena.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-29   13:13:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo, James Deffenbach, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, all (#15)

I do not find your strawman attempt to dismiss the data very convincing. The data is what the data is. The actual measurements and observation are the data. A theory is only as good as the data used to support it. GLOWBULL WARMING is only supported by data sets that have been jiggered (as demonstrated in the CRU e-mail dump) and fudged to produce a pre-determined conclusion in alignment with the Global PsyOp. That you are invincibly convinced that, all legitimate evidence to the contrary, that we are warming when all of the legitimate data says we are cooling only speaks to the efficacy of the Propaganda supporting the PsyOP.

World Climate Report » The Coming Global Cooling?

EDITORIAL: Hiding Evidence of Global Cooling

C3: Global Cooling: Data/Evidence/Trends

Of course since Glowbull Warming is actually about Global Control we can expect the Rothschilds/Rockefellers and their Vassals to continue to try to prop up the Glowbull Warming Agenda. In the end Glowbull Warming is about 2 things: Money and Power. Fini.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-29   13:35:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#20)

A theory is only as good as the data used to support it.

GW is mot a theory to be debated. It is a FACT. Do some original geophysical research beyond your enmity and distaste for AlGore and other politicians attempting to capitalize on the idea.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-29   14:07:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#31)

GW is mot a theory to be debated. It is a FACT. Do some original geophysical research beyond your enmity and distaste for AlGore and other politicians attempting to capitalize on the idea.

If it were a fact then Glowbull Warming Scientists advocates would not have to falsify and cherry pick data to fit the data to the theory.

When one is practicing science one fits the theory to account for ALL of the evidence - not just the cherry picked and manipulated data which after much fudging appears to fit the predetermined theory.

You can huff and puff until you turn blue in the face and it will not affect the true data and the true data does not support the Glowbull Warmining Hypothesis it in fact DISPROVES it.

So, I have no idea where you are coming from other than you are unconvinced by facts if the facts do not fit your prejudices. Whatever it is you are pushing one thing it is not is science, and most definitely the Religion of Glowbull Warming is NOT a fact. It is a Global Fraud elevated to prominence by the Power Elite for their own agenda which has nothing whatsoever to do with the well being of the planet's ecosphere.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-12-29   14:35:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#35)

If it were a fact then Glowbull Warming Scientists advocates would not have to falsify and cherry pick data to fit the data to the theory.

I am not going to argue about political BS. Many of these scientists have motivation for receiving government grants to further continue their studies. This problem has occurred since the beginning of time when anyone sucks the teat of government.

When one is practicing science one fits the theory to account for ALL of the evidence - not just the cherry picked and manipulated data which after much fudging appears to fit the predetermined theory.

Curve fitting happens all the time within data collection; the goal is not (as you say) to make something up or a predetermined theory. It is to account for variables that may not be understood within the general trends. A good example is El Nina which accounts for recent cooling trends. Still the general trend of global average temperatures are increasing.

You can huff and puff until you turn blue in the face and it will not affect the true data and the true data does not support the Glowbull Warmining Hypothesis it in fact DISPROVES it.

How? From your NEWSMAX website?

So, I have no idea where you are coming from other than you are unconvinced by facts if the facts do not fit your prejudices. Whatever it is you are pushing one thing it is not is science, and most definitely the Religion of Glowbull Warming is NOT a fact. It is a Global Fraud elevated to prominence by the Power Elite for their own agenda which has nothing whatsoever to do with the well being of the planet's ecosphere.

Read my posts. And if you don't care to read my posts, don't argue. Here try this series:

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-29   14:53:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#39)

That really is an awesome video. Lots of good stuff in there. But really, Buck, what shall be done about compounding humans? Would global regulation make it all better? That's the big solution offered for this global warming scam. Is that what you want? Maybe mandatory neutering would suffice? How about allowing the oncoming famines to take out millions? How about allowing the viruses to take out millions? What do you suggest, Buck?

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-29   15:00:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: abraxas (#40)

Thats about eighty minutes of video that was posted, yet you responded in less than ten minutes. Watch the series and then comment and ask me questions. I will be happy to answer questions assuming they are bona-fide and characteristic of a good hearted nature. :)

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-29   15:05:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#41)

Thats about eighty minutes of video that was posted, yet you responded in less than ten minutes.

Becuase I watched it about six or eight months ago, Buck. I'm a documentary buff. I love that fellow's insights about compounding, completely agrees with Einstein. Applies to all aspects, far beyond population.

My questions are good hearted in nature and bona-fide. I agree with much in the video. I also agree the mom nature has been offering population control while man fights it. It's quite a quagmire. Man wants to do something, the more he does the worse the problem becomes.

However, contrary to popular belief, man is NOT the center of the universe, but rather a small insignificant speck in this vast universe. Man likes to think he can solve all problems, the he even is so important as to cause all problems, but knowledge of the vastness of the universe really should provide some persepective on significance.......yet it rarely ever does.

Einstein also siad we have a massive black hole in the center of the Milky Way galaxy, which we will be aligning with real soon. What do you think the impact of that might be on earth?

abraxas  posted on  2009-12-29   15:14:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: abraxas (#42)

I also agree the mom nature has been offering population control while man fights it. It's quite a quagmire. Man wants to do something, the more he does the worse the problem becomes.

I like the way you put your post together. Isn't government a cohesive body of political hacks performing the same?

Einstein also siad we have a massive black hole in the center of the Milky Way galaxy, which we will be aligning with real soon. What do you think the impact of that might be on earth?

I have never read any such thing other than being a teen, swooned within the motion picture studio eating popcorn and sucking a Pepsi. Maybe you can find a quote to support your memories.

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-29   15:22:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#48. To: buckeroo (#44)

I have never read any such thing other than being a teen, swooned within the motion picture studio eating popcorn and sucking a Pepsi. Maybe you can find a quote to support your memories.

To be fair, it was manipulation of Einstein's theory that proved black holes and gave birth to the theory of a massive black hole in the center of the universe:

The possibility that stars could collapse to form black holes was first theoretically "discovered" in 1939 by J. Robert Oppenheimer and Hartland Snyder, who were manipulating the equations of Einstein's general relativity. The first black hole believed to be discovered in the physical world, as opposed to the mathematical world of pencil and paper, was Cygnus X-1, about 7,000 light-years from Earth. (A light-year, the distance light travels in a year, is about six trillion miles.) Cygnus X-1 was found in 1970. Since then, a dozen excellent black hole candidates have been identified. Many astronomers and astrophysicists believe that massive black holes, with sizes up to 10 million times that of our sun, inhabit the centers of energetic galaxies and quasars and are responsible for their enormous energy release. Ironically, Einstein himself did not believe in the existence of black holes, even though they were predicted by his theory. (NOVA)

: ) My bad, Oppenheimer proved his point with evidence Einstein used to disprove black holes.

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