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Title: Glacier Retreat Has Beneficial Impact on Climate Change
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Drudge Report
URL Source: http://www.drudge.com/news/128421/g ... -retreat-has-beneficial-impact
Published: Dec 28, 2009
Author: staff
Post Date: 2009-12-28 03:18:30 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 845
Comments: 86
ScienceDaily (Nov. 10, 2009) Large blooms of tiny marine plants called phytoplankton are flourishing in areas of open water left exposed by the recent and rapid melting of ice shelves and glaciers around the Antarctic Peninsula. This remarkable colonisation is having a beneficial impact on climate change. As the blooms die back phytoplankton sinks to the sea-bed where it can store carbon for thousands or millions of years. The retreat of glaciers since 1850 affects the availability of fresh water for irrigation and domestic use, mountain recreation, animals and plants that depend on glacier-melt, and in the longer term, the level of the oceans. Studied by glaciologists, the temporal coincidence of glacier retreat with the measured increase of atmospheric greenhouse gases is often cited as an evidentiary underpinning of global warming. Mid-latitude mountain ranges such as the Himalayas, Alps, Rocky Mountains, Cascade Range, and the southern Andes, as well as isolated tropical summits such as Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa, are showing some of the largest proportionate glacial loss.(IPCC)(Mlg). It is estimated the total area of extrapolar glaciers will have shrunk from 500,000 to 100,000 km by the year 2350.[1] The Little Ice Age was a period from about 1550 to 1850 when the world experienced relatively cooler temperatures compared to the present. Subsequently, until about 1940, glaciers around the world retreated as the climate warmed substantially. Glacial retreat slowed and even reversed temporarily, in many cases, between 1950 and 1980 as a slight global cooling occurred. However, since 1980 a significant global warming has led to glacier retreat becoming increasingly rapid and ubiquitous, so much so that some glaciers have disappeared altogether, and the existence of a great number of the remaining glaciers of the world is threatened. In locations such as the Andes of South America and Himalayas in Asia, the demise of glaciers in these regions will have potential impact on water supplies. The retreat of mountain glaciers, notably in western North America, Asia, the Alps, Indonesia and Africa, and tropical and subtropical regions of South America, has been used to provide qualitative evidence for the rise in global temperatures since the late 19th century.(IPCC2) (NSIDC) The recent substantial retreat and an acceleration of the rate of retreat since 1995 of a number of key outlet glaciers of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets, may foreshadow a rise in sea level, having a potentially dramatic effect on coastal regions worldwide.
Poster Comment: Since the majority of the glaciers around the world are undeniably melting, how on Earth is the average temperature of the planet decreasing?
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#1. To: buckeroo, *Global Climate Change* (#0)
You have your eye off-the-ball by looking at a few sample points. I am always discussing general trends not a single point phenomena.
Yeah, O_I, don't you know that global cooling and blizzards are sure signs of global warming? You better get with the program. ahaha.
My bad, I didn't think. Of course growing ice sheets, record snow falls and bone chilling temperatures all add up to one thing: Glowbull Warming. How could I have been so silly as to think all of the recorded and quantified evidence of declining temperatures and increasing ice thickness in the arctic and antarctic meant anything other than Holy Global Warming? Excuse me a moment while I light another candle to St. Algore.
Again you resort to Strawman Arguments and Argumentum Ad Hominem attacks. As we both know - I have NEVER listed NewsMax as source for anything I have EVER posted on this board - and that includes the current thread. Your attempt to link my postings of relevant factual information founded upon the actual climate data (not the phonied up data of the CRU) is nothing more than a Red Herring to distract and divert from the FACTS without actually having to go to the labor of actually doing so - which in any event you can't as the data, when not cherry picked and falsified, does not support the Glowbull Warming Hypothesis. Please note the following graphs based on the ACTUAL readings. Note also that temperatures during the Medieval Warm Period were significantly higher than they are now. Further your posted graph proves nothing as the "Little Ice Age" did not end until 1850 and one would expect, reasonably, temperatures to revert to their former levels following the end of COLD period. If one looks at the actual long term data and not just a very limited period cherry picked for effect then there is a totally different picture. SCIENCE requires accounting for ALL THE DATA.
Why did you use the USA general temperatures (a local phenomena) as a method to counter my point concerning general world trends? Sometimes, I don't think you are bright. In case you hadn't noticed only one of the 3 graphs was exclusive to the U.S.. You are quibbling again. In any event last I checked we did live in the U.S.. Don't you?
Wait a minute. I refute YOUR own data that was supposed TO PROVE global warming is a myth and you only say, I am quibbling? Come again? And by the way, re-size your pictures for your viewing audience. You can still perform that goal on your own awkward and clumsy posts.
LOL! Pointing out that ONE OF THREE graphs was for the U.S. only is a refutation of nothing. It is another attempt to avoid clear and unequivocable graphic evidence which shows that Glowbull Warming is at best inaccurate and at worst a lie. The evidence does not support Glowbull Warming and the long term climatologic trends, as illustrated, in the other TWO OF THREE graphs, demonstrate the reverse.
With your one picture at the top of your list that is clearly BOGUS ensures the rest of your post is discarded. You aren't into discussing the truth by posting lies and hearsay information and without that spirit of TRUTH and objective fact, do you think I fucking care about reading your other goddamned BS?
Bucky you are dissembling again. In no way did I lie and your attempt to falsely assert that I did is in fact itself A LIE. You are lying by rote and by habit. There is nothing whatsoever bogus in that first graph. It is clearly labeled and is clearly data, representing nearly an entire continent, which is significant and relevant to the discussion. Your attempt to dismiss it as anything other than what it is, a subset of the available data, is in fact the lie. You are simply trying to manufacture a reason for rejecting it since you cannot disprove the data. It IS a factual representation and your attempt to color it otherwise is nothing more than an old threadbare 'bot tactic which I have dismembered many times. I think at this point we have established enough of a history on this thread to demonstrate several things very clearly. You ARE habitually dishonest. You long ago lost this debate on merit and are at this point merely proving yourself to be either a fanatic or operating from another agenda. You ARE at every corner refusing to look at any information which might disturb the the LIE of Glowbull Warming. You steadfastly refuse to acknowledge or comment upon factual data other than to attempt to divert from it and grant credence to nothing which is in contrast to the Official LIE. You therefore clearly show yourself to not be honest in this debate and examination which is founded upon factual information. Your disengenuousness has at every turn looked to logical fallacies and avoidance as your primary tactics. One thing that has become clear in this debate is that the truth is not in you.
#60. To: Original_Intent (#59)
ROTFL ... lQQk at all the folks you want to drag here. Instead of re-thinking your posts and changing your ways, methods and focus, you decided to have a Spanish Inquisition. You are too much! You must be 4UM's Class Klown.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestSince the majority of the glaciers around the world are undeniably melting, how on Earth is the average temperature of the planet decreasing?
#14. To: wudidiz, farmfriend, buckeroo, all (#1)
877 new snowfall records set or tied in the USA last week
Growing Glaciers
Antarctic Ice Growing
World Sea Ice 25 Year High
ICE not fire may be the bigger worry
Sea Levels Falling not Rising
#15. To: Original_Intent (#14)
#16. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#15)
#17. To: James Deffenbach (#16)
Yeah, O_I, don't you know that global cooling and blizzards are sure signs of global warming?
#36. To: Original_Intent (#17)
My bad, I didn't think. Of course growing ice sheets, record snow falls and bone chilling temperatures all add up to one thing: Glowbull Warming.
Your reading on awkward NEWSMAX websites clearly points to your prolific delusions.
#43. To: buckeroo (#36)
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Your reading on awkward NEWSMAX websites clearly points to your prolific delusions.
Analysis of Multiple Peer-Reviewed Studies: Global Ocean Warming Not Happening As Climate Models Predicted Read here. The AGW hypothesis claims that the world's oceans have significantly warmed due to human CO2 emissions, and will continue to warm at an accelerated pace. The IPCC climate models were programmed to assume this ocean warming assumption. Reviewing the major research studies on this issue over the last decade, it's been found that the oceans have not significantly warmed, and more importantly, have actually cooled (lost heat) in recent years. This behavior runs counter to every IPCC climate model. In addition, one of the studies points to the oceans acting as a giant climate thermostat incorporating negative feedback mechanisms. The negative feedbacks prevent the global warming from achieving any type of "tipping point."
#52. To: Original_Intent (#43)
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Why did you use the USA general temperatures (a local phenomena) as a method to counter my point concerning general world trends? Sometimes, I don't think you are bright.
#55. To: buckeroo (#52)
#56. To: Original_Intent (#55)
You are quibbling again.
#57. To: buckeroo (#56)
Wait a minute. I refute YOUR own data that was supposed TO PROVE global warming is a myth and you only say, I am quibbling?
#58. To: Original_Intent (#57)
Pointing out that ONE OF THREE graphs was for the U.S. only is a refutation of nothing.
#59. To: buckeroo, christine, farmfriend, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, HOUNDDAWG, bluegrass, Kamala, Deacon Benjamin, HappyToBeMe-4um, Itistoolate, Esso, all (#58)
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Replies to Comment # 59. you are dissembling again.
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