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Title: Glacier Retreat Has Beneficial Impact on Climate Change
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Drudge Report
URL Source: http://www.drudge.com/news/128421/g ... -retreat-has-beneficial-impact
Published: Dec 28, 2009
Author: staff
Post Date: 2009-12-28 03:18:30 by buckeroo
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Views: 904
Comments: 86
ScienceDaily (Nov. 10, 2009) Large blooms of tiny marine plants called phytoplankton are flourishing in areas of open water left exposed by the recent and rapid melting of ice shelves and glaciers around the Antarctic Peninsula. This remarkable colonisation is having a beneficial impact on climate change. As the blooms die back phytoplankton sinks to the sea-bed where it can store carbon for thousands or millions of years. The retreat of glaciers since 1850 affects the availability of fresh water for irrigation and domestic use, mountain recreation, animals and plants that depend on glacier-melt, and in the longer term, the level of the oceans. Studied by glaciologists, the temporal coincidence of glacier retreat with the measured increase of atmospheric greenhouse gases is often cited as an evidentiary underpinning of global warming. Mid-latitude mountain ranges such as the Himalayas, Alps, Rocky Mountains, Cascade Range, and the southern Andes, as well as isolated tropical summits such as Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa, are showing some of the largest proportionate glacial loss.(IPCC)(Mlg). It is estimated the total area of extrapolar glaciers will have shrunk from 500,000 to 100,000 km by the year 2350.[1] The Little Ice Age was a period from about 1550 to 1850 when the world experienced relatively cooler temperatures compared to the present. Subsequently, until about 1940, glaciers around the world retreated as the climate warmed substantially. Glacial retreat slowed and even reversed temporarily, in many cases, between 1950 and 1980 as a slight global cooling occurred. However, since 1980 a significant global warming has led to glacier retreat becoming increasingly rapid and ubiquitous, so much so that some glaciers have disappeared altogether, and the existence of a great number of the remaining glaciers of the world is threatened. In locations such as the Andes of South America and Himalayas in Asia, the demise of glaciers in these regions will have potential impact on water supplies. The retreat of mountain glaciers, notably in western North America, Asia, the Alps, Indonesia and Africa, and tropical and subtropical regions of South America, has been used to provide qualitative evidence for the rise in global temperatures since the late 19th century.(IPCC2) (NSIDC) The recent substantial retreat and an acceleration of the rate of retreat since 1995 of a number of key outlet glaciers of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets, may foreshadow a rise in sea level, having a potentially dramatic effect on coastal regions worldwide.
Poster Comment: Since the majority of the glaciers around the world are undeniably melting, how on Earth is the average temperature of the planet decreasing?
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#1. To: buckeroo, *Global Climate Change* (#0)
You have your eye off-the-ball by looking at a few sample points. I am always discussing general trends not a single point phenomena.
Yeah, O_I, don't you know that global cooling and blizzards are sure signs of global warming? You better get with the program. ahaha.
My bad, I didn't think. Of course growing ice sheets, record snow falls and bone chilling temperatures all add up to one thing: Glowbull Warming. How could I have been so silly as to think all of the recorded and quantified evidence of declining temperatures and increasing ice thickness in the arctic and antarctic meant anything other than Holy Global Warming? Excuse me a moment while I light another candle to St. Algore.
Again you resort to Strawman Arguments and Argumentum Ad Hominem attacks. As we both know - I have NEVER listed NewsMax as source for anything I have EVER posted on this board - and that includes the current thread. Your attempt to link my postings of relevant factual information founded upon the actual climate data (not the phonied up data of the CRU) is nothing more than a Red Herring to distract and divert from the FACTS without actually having to go to the labor of actually doing so - which in any event you can't as the data, when not cherry picked and falsified, does not support the Glowbull Warming Hypothesis. Please note the following graphs based on the ACTUAL readings. Note also that temperatures during the Medieval Warm Period were significantly higher than they are now. Further your posted graph proves nothing as the "Little Ice Age" did not end until 1850 and one would expect, reasonably, temperatures to revert to their former levels following the end of COLD period. If one looks at the actual long term data and not just a very limited period cherry picked for effect then there is a totally different picture. SCIENCE requires accounting for ALL THE DATA.
Correct. I confused you with your pal, James Deffenbach on another thread wherein both of you NEVER offer facts: And the Earth's average temperature is heating up BECAUSE of human over-population and known by-products. Buck, everyone is entitled to their own opinion(s). No one is entitled to their own facts. When you consider that the amount of greenhouse gasses created by one--yeah, ONE--volcanic eruption is more than equal to anything that the whole human race could do in many years, even you should understand that man has very little to do with climate change. The climate changes all the time and it's a good thing. But you just keep on believing how the bad old people are all bent on destroying the earth and how there are too many of them, blah, blah, blah. Scientist: Earth Cooling, Not Warming Atmospheric temperature is regulated by the sun, which fluctuates in activity as shown in Figure 3; by the greenhouse effect, largely caused by atmospheric water vapor (H2O); and by other phenomena that are more poorly understood. While major greenhouse gas H2O substantially warms the Earth, minor greenhouse gases such as CO2 have little effect, as shown in Figures 2 and 3. The 6-fold increase in hydrocarbon use since 1940 has had no noticeable effect on atmospheric temperature or on the trend in glacier length. CLIMATE CHANGE: It's official: the world is cooling, not warming Solar activity very closely matches not only recent global temperature changes but also historical changes for the past 1100 years. For instance, the Maunder Minimum (1645-1715) was an extremely cold period in which there was very little sunspot activity. Earlier, the Medieval Warm Period (950-1300) was a time when the Vikings colonised Greenland, now much of it covered in a thick ice-sheet. WTF, Buck? Did the Vikings cause global warming with all that old diesel fuel they used in their boats? No, I didn't think so. Maybe it was all their SUV's and stuff--reckon that was it? Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton James Deffenbach
And you never answered the question buck. Did the Vikings cause the Medieval Warming Period? And if so, how did they do it? They didn't have planes and motorized transportation, at least there is no evidence of it.
Why should I? You used a disgusting website to support your opinion. I don't have time for your BS. Other than I know, you have too much time on your hands searching of Liberty_Post and NEWSMAX.
The truth is the truth no matter what website it is on. But then I wouldn't expect a disciple of Al Gore to understand that. I already knew you couldn't answer the question. You global warmist bs'ers are struck dumb when presented with evidence about the Medieval Warm Period--a period of time when there were NO internal combustion engines. No planes, trucks, cars, railroads--none of that. And yet the earth was warmer then than it is now.
Go stuff your climate change resilience to the truth. And snuggle up in that igloo with a torch.
#64. To: buckeroo (#63)
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Hey pickleroo, I just read your comments to J T on another thread. Were I to do that, I'd be banned as would anyone else that behaves towards J T and Christine in such a borish way. Go shit in your glow bull warmist piss puddle on your own dime, you fucking Traitor...
That's rich coming from you. You have shown, over and over, that you can't be bothered with any facts which call your glowbull warming religion into doubt and disrepute.
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#14. To: wudidiz, farmfriend, buckeroo, all (#1)
877 new snowfall records set or tied in the USA last week
Growing Glaciers
Antarctic Ice Growing
World Sea Ice 25 Year High
ICE not fire may be the bigger worry
Sea Levels Falling not Rising
#15. To: Original_Intent (#14)
#16. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#15)
#17. To: James Deffenbach (#16)
Yeah, O_I, don't you know that global cooling and blizzards are sure signs of global warming?
#36. To: Original_Intent (#17)
My bad, I didn't think. Of course growing ice sheets, record snow falls and bone chilling temperatures all add up to one thing: Glowbull Warming.
Your reading on awkward NEWSMAX websites clearly points to your prolific delusions.
#43. To: buckeroo (#36)
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Your reading on awkward NEWSMAX websites clearly points to your prolific delusions.
Analysis of Multiple Peer-Reviewed Studies: Global Ocean Warming Not Happening As Climate Models Predicted Read here. The AGW hypothesis claims that the world's oceans have significantly warmed due to human CO2 emissions, and will continue to warm at an accelerated pace. The IPCC climate models were programmed to assume this ocean warming assumption. Reviewing the major research studies on this issue over the last decade, it's been found that the oceans have not significantly warmed, and more importantly, have actually cooled (lost heat) in recent years. This behavior runs counter to every IPCC climate model. In addition, one of the studies points to the oceans acting as a giant climate thermostat incorporating negative feedback mechanisms. The negative feedbacks prevent the global warming from achieving any type of "tipping point."
#49. To: Original_Intent (#43)
As we both know - I have NEVER listed NewsMax as source for anything I have EVER posted on this board - and that includes the current thread.
#47. To: buckeroo (#46)
#51. To: buckeroo (#49)
#53. To: James Deffenbach (#51)
And you never answered the question buck.
#61. To: buckeroo (#53)
Why should I? You used a disgusting website to support your opinion.
#63. To: James Deffenbach (#61)
The truth is the truth
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#69. To: buckeroo (#63)
Go stuff your climate change resilience to the truth.
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