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Title: NH Legislators Look to Nullify Federal Gun Laws
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tenthamendmentcenter.com
URL Source: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com ... -nullify-federal-gun-laws/?rta
Published: Jan 1, 2010
Author: Michael Boldin
Post Date: 2010-01-01 19:56:37 by bluegrass
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Views: 479
Comments: 39
NH Legislators again raise the bar for the 10th Amendment Movement – felony charges proposed for federal agents violating gun rights in New Hampshire. Pre-filed for the 2010 legislative session in New Hampshire, House Bill 1285 (HB1285) seeks to “exempt firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition manufactured in New Hampshire from federal law and regulation.” Introduced by State Rep. Dan Itse, the bill currently has 5 other co-sponsors, including 10-4 pledge signer, Carol Vita. (h/t NHLiberty.org) While the bill’s title focuses on federal gun regulations, it has far more to do with the 10th Amendment’s limit on the power of the federal government. It states, in part:...
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#1. To: bluegrass (#0)
Very good (assuming it passes). Now we need 49 more states to do that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Oh I like that. What a brilliant law. It needs to pass and then in another 49 states. Good find.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Montana and Tennessee already have similar bills in the works.
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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)
OMG! He's another E-Vile Republican!
Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!
OMG! He's another E-Vile Republican! The people who make up Republicans seem by in large to be better then the people who make up democrats. I know it is popular to say there is no differences. But you and I know there are huge differences. The people who are lazy tend to be democrats. People who are successful tend to be republicans. I have a problem with globalists of both parties. But on issues here at home the Republicans are light years ahead of the democrats.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Good. The more the better. And if the states, or the "leaders" of the states, would all ban together and tell the fedgov to ef off it would be a great day in America.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Any is better than none but 50 is better than a dozen.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Bullshit.
The only thing better would be for we the states to say, We're tired of this union, we're going back on our own and see how that goes for us. Immediately, we would have 49 more votes in the UN (to get rid of those bastards) and 49 more votes wherever we only today have one. Secession - a time who's come.
Bullshit. Lets see health care is 1/7 of the economy they say. Assuming that is correct there is one huge difference there. Abortion. Democrats are for murdering babies. and most Republicans are against baby murder. Right to bear arms...almost all democrats hate citizens having guns. A majority of Republicans oppose restrictions (not high enough a number though). Taxes....Republicans favor less taxes then the D's do. The main problem that I see where they are in locksted is globalist issues. The majority of elected representatives from both parties seem to favor all this UN globalist bullshit. But the citizens mostly oppose it. Do you think there would be a healthcare bill like this under a McCain presidency. If your honest with yourself I think you will agree that we wouldn't.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Ideally, if we could get away from the Union and be separate states, we could just get rid of the Useless Nuts. I have always thought it was a bad deal for America to be involved in that pos.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Why is it never a D that initiates this type of legislation?
Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!
Why was it only a D that put up a good fight against CT's turn in your neighbor bill? Why wasn't NY able to pass an assault weapons ban until there was an R majority in the assembly and an R governor?
CT? People with a brain actually live there? These are the same nitwits that think Lieberman is an Independent. I'm sure they just wanted to have sex with farm animals anonymously. You ever heard of RINOs? What'd it pass by, 1 vote? NY is another cesspool of barnyard Romeos.
Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!
Lets see health care is 1/7 of the economy they say. Assuming that is correct there is one huge difference there. And what, EXACTLY, did the repubican wing actually DO when they had ALL 3 (THREE) branches in their clutches ?? Nothing... Abortion. Democrats are for murdering babies. and most Republicans are against baby murder. And what, EXACTLY, did the repubican wing actually DO when they had ALL 3 (THREE) branches in their clutches ?? Nothing... Right to bear arms...almost all democrats hate citizens having guns. A majority of Republicans oppose restrictions (not high enough a number though). And what, EXACTLY, did the repubican wing actually DO when they had ALL 3 (THREE) branches in their clutches ?? Nothing... Taxes....Republicans favor less taxes then the D's do. And what, EXACTLY, did the repubican wing actually DO when they had ALL 3 (THREE) branches in their clutches ?? Nothing...Constitutionally speaking (which is all that matters at this point). Actually, they just kept spending and printing, spending and PRINTING !! How many murders have been committed recently in the 'name of Republicanism' ? Yeah, MILLIONS. Fuck ALL fucking partisans that believe in the illegal shadow government's BULLSHIT. The main problem that I see where they are in locksted is globalist issues. The majority of elected representatives from both parties seem to favor all this UN globalist bullshit. But the citizens mostly oppose it. The MAIN problem is that THE united States Constitution is JUST A "God Damned Piece of Paper" to these fucking power hungry, no good, partisan, anti- American TRAITORS ! Do you think there would be a healthcare bill like this under a McCain presidency. Yes, and a Glowbull Warmist world government taxing, warring, totalitarian structure to enforce all this bullshit. If your honest with yourself I think you will agree that we wouldn't. ] You can't be honest; the truth is not in you. You are a REPUBLICAN and therefore DAMAGED GOODS. NTBT...
With a couple of exceptions, they're all full of shit.
What Rotara said.
Agreed. It's the exceptions I look at too, and most of them have an R after their names.
Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!
It could be said that NONE ARE SO FUCKING BLIND as partisans...so fucking stupid. The Hegelian Dialect lives on, strong as EVER...
Republican wing...Republican wing.....Republican wing.......Republican wing. You sound like a broken record. Who is this Republican wing. Oh it isn't a person. So you use this "republican wing" to make the claim that not one Republican championed or opposed any of those positions you made. You said the Republicans did nothing on healthcare. That was your first point. Well it is unconsittutional for them to do so. You said the Republican wing did nothing on abortion. Well that is a lie. The banned partial birth abortion. They need to do more. Tell me this now. How many Republicans and how many democrats would be willing to go further? You trying to pretend that every Republican voters the same is dishonest or careless thought on your part. The you said the Republicans did nothing on gun control. That also isn't true. They let the assault weapons ban lapse and not pass it again. Are there Republicans who would do more to restore our 2nd amendment rights? Yes there are. Far more then democrats. So your attempt again to say that the Republicans always vote unanimously in lockstep is kind of silly. Then you talked about what the Republicans did on taxes. Sheesh Rotara as informed as you are I would have thought you heard of the Bush tax cuts. Then you say the main problem is that our leaders think the constitution is a piece of toilet paper. But I am sorry my friend but our problems go deeper then that. Our problems are mostly moral. Fool....McCain is opposed to the health care bill. All of the Republicans are. How would they override a veto. Don't try to be lame and say that they would vote different if McCain was president. Unless you claim yourself to be a prophet or something. Are you an oracle? Then you jabber on....Jibber jabbering about the truth not being in me and that I am a Republican. I'm not a Republican, I am an American. You are not God and you don't know dittly squat if the truth is in me.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
We would have less influence. We would be divided and conqueered.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
then see 21
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Amen!
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
I think it is more a problem of being self-righteous. He doesn't understand what satan worshipers the R party has become.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
So you agree with Rotara the the republicans were wrong to do nothing on healthcare? You agree with him that the Republicans under Bush didn't cut taxes? You agree with him that the Republicans did nothing by letting the assualt weapons ban expire. The other stuff too. You're not really as informed as I previously thought you were.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I know it is popular to say there is no differences. ... That is on the national level. At the state and local level there are SOME good people who actually support the Constitution and Liberty. The point is not though that some R's are good and most D's are filthy scum sucking bottom dwelling swine, but that the national parties are controlled both by the same small cabal of hyper-wealthy banksters and serve their bidding - which is ultimately a planetary totalitarian regime with them in charge.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
A large part of any solution lies with the people recognizing the negative impact that usage of the FEDERAL RESERVE'S monetary products (commerce) have with respect to destroying common-law and the Constitution. I once thought that a gold/silver (bi-metal) backed system was requisite but have changed my opinion to a degree. Bi-metal support is less necessary to a strong currency than PRODUCTION is. How to establish an honest and competent overseer of currency issuance and distribution (interest-free or possibly low interest paid to ourselves rather than private bankers) is the most important objective once the criminal banker element is removed.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
Quit talking to that fucking shill. Bozo the idiot, you'll feel so much better having relieved yourself of that huge turd causing mental blockage and high blood pressure.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
Bingo! The REAL wealth of a nation is the willingness of its people to work. The reason slave systems don't work very well is that there is no willingness to work. People will work only hard enough to avoid being punished for not working. They will never innovate - which is why slave economies eventually collapse. I agree on the currency. As I have harped on repeatedly "money is an idea backed by confidence". Confidence that it is worth something and that it can be used to secure the necessities of life and the luxuries one has earned. If there is no confidence in the value of any money then it will collapse as a medium of exchange. That is another key concept - the concept of exchange. All economic transactions can be evaluated in the level of exchange they provide. What we have now with the Feral Reserve is a criminal exchange i.e., something for nothing. That type of exchange cannot be supported indefinitely and eventually the sucker gets mad at being "taken". So, I expect unrest to increase dramatically over the intermediate term of 1 to 3 years.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Our expectations are similar.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
Doubtful that a currency overseer is even needed. All that the national government has to do is make a trillion dollars in dollars/credit available for some genuine project such as high speed rail across the country, into South America and up to Alaska, eventually connecting to Europe. This gets money into hands of workers, factories, suppliers and produces a money-making asset everyone can use. Everyone along the line, individuals and companies, add to their wealth while producing something of value for others, not scamming like Wall Street bankers who are siphoning the money into Israel or some other useless purpose.
Interesting thread on America's Armed Militia on the Rise at: Also see on the same site article on the Transportation Security Administration subpoenaing bloggers to disclose where they got its revised passenger screening procedures which TSA sent to airports around the world but didn't want made public, presumably to prevent would-be plane bombers from outwitting security.
Historically, over production of currency causes the inflation that has ruined it. Gold/silver standards do restrain inflation and maintain steady value but limit necessary growth. A gold standard alone would insure the same elites control. Another consideration I'm flirting with is a dual system that separates true commerce from everyday business. A bimetal system might be best for the operation of the day to day activities of the common folk while a more leastic system would facilitate large commercial activities. The purpose of this type of system would be to protect the small fry from the sharks. The bail-out debacle is trapping the small fish in the net that rightfully should be only concerned with sharks. Just an incomplete thought at this point, but a solid metal backed currency for those not involved in high finance and another system of negotiable instruments and commercial paper for high level financial ventures, might be a means of keeping the common-law applicable and the Constitution intact until one operates outside of the solid monetary system. At that point the UCC or Law Merchant could prevail.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
They did just enough to dupe the dupes like you. And the dems do just enough to dupe their dupes.
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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)
So how does this work. They are all 100 percent secretly on the same page. Then they do what meet somewhere and decide who is going to vote for what. Then when they vote comes they fool us? That is an afually lot of people to keep a secret. I think you are stretching your imagination to unrealistic levels. Here is the way I see it. There are many factions. People have different views. Some Republicans are strongly against abortion and want to do something. Others just want the issue as a wedge. and so on. Your conspiracy theory is not realistic.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
....er, uh, back to the original topic - guns: I'm sorry that we rarely see on the 'net a photograph of the sculpture at the U.N. entrance. You'll remember that it is a huge, exactly-created revolver....with the barrel tied into a knot. It's an excellent reminder to all the Constitutionists in the country that many of the Washington / New York 'Biggies' have a nasty agenda. Can some of you computer geniuses paste that picture here, occasionally? Please and Thanks !
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick ('uniter' = G.W.)
Issuance of currency just to facilitate consumption or provide a sinecure for bureaucrats could induce inflation but maybe not with so many having the capability to produce and eager to do so. Other than speculative commodities like real estate there hasn't been much inflation during the recent credit splurge; computers dropped substantially in price even though much better performing. Seems to me that with the government "creating" money to fund something like an enhanced rail system commerce would be facilitated and more generated; the rail system thus would be a better asset than gold which just sits there unless you need to fix a tooth. The current economic stagnation stems largely from saturated markets so the solution has to be credit creation to embark on massive projects like rail, weather modification, space stations on the moon and mars, ocean cities (rather than crazy wars which Israel is instigating to detract from its thievery of Palestinian lands).
NH Legislators Look to Nullify Federal Gun Laws
Lord Acton
#2. To: bluegrass (#0)
felony charges proposed for federal agents violating gun rights in New Hampshire.
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
#4. To: James Deffenbach (#1)
#5. To: bluegrass (#0)
State Rep. Dan Itse
#6. To: Flintlock (#5)
State Rep. Dan Itse
#7. To: Lod (#3)
Montana and Tennessee already have similar bills in the works.
Lord Acton
#8. To: Eric Stratton (#4)
I'll settle for a dozen at this point.
Lord Acton
#9. To: A K A Stone (#6)
But you and I know there are huge differences.
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
#10. To: James Deffenbach (#7)
And if the states, or the "leaders" of the states, would all ban together and tell the fedgov to ef off it would be a great day in America.
#11. To: Critter (#9)
But you and I know there are huge differences.
#12. To: Lod (#10)
Lord Acton
#13. To: Critter (#9)
(Edited)
Bullshit.
#14. To: Flintlock (#13)
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
#15. To: Critter (#14)
Why was it only a D that put up a good fight against CT's turn in your neighbor bill?
Why wasn't NY able to pass an assault weapons ban until there was an R majority in the assembly and an R governor?
#16. To: A K A Stone (#11)
Ah sheesh...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#17. To: Flintlock (#15)
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
#18. To: Rotara, A K A Stone (#16)
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
#19. To: Critter (#17)
With a couple of exceptions, they're all full of shit.
#20. To: Critter (#18)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#21. To: Rotara (#16)
#22. To: James Deffenbach (#12)
Ideally, if we could get away from the Union and be separate states
#23. To: Critter (#18)
What Rotara said.
#24. To: Critter, Rotara, A K A Stone (#18)
What Rotara said.
#25. To: Rotara, Critter (#20)
It could be said that NONE ARE SO FUCKING BLIND as partisans...so fucking stupid.
#26. To: farmfriend (#24)
#27. To: A K A Stone (#6)
The people who make up Republicans seem by in large to be better then the people who make up democrats.
#28. To: Original_Intent (#27)
the national parties are controlled both by the same small cabal of hyper-wealthy banksters and
#29. To: Rotara (#16)
#30. To: noone222 (#28)
I once thought that a gold/silver (bi-metal) backed system was requisite but have changed my opinion to a degree. Bi-metal support is less necessary to a strong currency than PRODUCTION is.
#31. To: Original_Intent (#30)
So, I expect unrest to increase dramatically over the intermediate term of 1 to 3 years.
#32. To: noone222 (#28)
#33. To: bluegrass (#0)
#34. To: Tatarewicz (#32)
#35. To: A K A Stone (#23)
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
#36. To: James Deffenbach (#8)
#37. To: Critter (#35)
They did just enough to dupe the dupes like you. And the dems do just enough to dupe their dupes.
#38. To: bluegrass (#0)
#39. To: noone222 (#34)
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