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Title: I suppose straddling the line between socialism and fascism counts as "bipartisan"
Source: Strike the Root
URL Source: http://www.strike-the-root.com/node/25569
Published: Jan 3, 2010
Author: John Markley
Post Date: 2010-01-03 11:36:18 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 77
Comments: 2

I suppose straddling the line between socialism and fascism counts as "bipartisan"

The debate over health care has had me thinking about the question of where to draw the boundary between a a private firm intertwined with or heavily regulated by the government and an arm of the state that merely maintains the forms of the private sector. It's been frequently pointed out, correctly, that the obvious purpose of the "public option" is to serve as a Trojan horse for single payer. Even without the public option, though, the "reforms" that seem most likely to pass would effectively eliminate private insurance.

The most frequently referenced issues, now that the public option seems to be out of the running, are the insurance mandate and insurance for people with preexisting conditions. The mandate is basically a payoff to the insurance industry: The government imposes new controls on them requiring them to do things that do not make financial sense if you're actually in the insurance business, and in return the government will force everyone to buy their product. The insurance companies get more money, the government gains greater control of health care, and the benevolent champions of the working man in Washington, D.C. get to impose a large, regressive I-swear-it's-not-a-tax on everyone.

In this scenario, in what meaningful sense is the insurance industry "private" any longer?

The insurers would be government agencies in everything but name, and the insurance they “sell” would simply be a welfare program (albeit one that, like social security, would produce a net transfer of wealth from the relatively poor to the relatively rich) disguised as a commercial transaction. They would exist to serve purposes chosen by the government, their activities would be controlled by the government, and their funding would be given directly to them by the entire population under threat of government force. They would have some internal autonomy and some scope to compete with each other, but that means little to this issue. Even communist countries experimented with letting the managers at state-owned factories make some independent decisions. They'll be about as "private" as a public school district.

The only notable difference, so far as I can tell, is that the people in charge of distributing insurance will be making a hell of a lot more money than your average Department of Health and Human Services manager.

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#1. To: abraxas (#0)

produce a net transfer of wealth from the relatively poor to the relatively rich

Welcome to Socialism. While Capitalism spreads wealth unevenly, Socialism spreads poverty evenly.

In this case, meaningful reform, just like in the so-called "Gay Marriage" debate involves reducing Government interference and encouraging people to form alternatives.

Want to put together a healthcare co-op? Good luck getting through the requirements the Government puts in your way.

Want to help set up a charitable system that treats the poor? Good luck getting through the requirements the Government puts in your way.

Want to open up clinics inside Wal-Marts that do basic office visits for $10 a pop? Good luck getting through the requirements that Government puts in your way.

By the way, the Wal-Mart Clinic was an actual proposal the company put forward and wanted to move on. Guess what killed it? You got it. Government interference.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2010-01-03   14:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mirage (#1)

Good post, mirage. I'm hoping that this healthcare farce will fall apart under the weight of its own corruption. I keep waiting for the Fed Gov. to go broke, technically they are, but Ben keeps printing more and more debt. Entire system will eventually collapse.

And, with all those noted insights, the goobermint continues to claim a "jobless" recovery. Who believes this crap? The small business man has had his back broken by over regulation. Many around hear are shutting down, too much trouble to maintain employees is a mantra I hear over and over again.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-01-03   15:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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