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Title: When Will Israel Assassinate Barack Obama?
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Published: Jan 5, 2010
Author: Jeff Gates
Post Date: 2010-01-05 10:40:42 by christine
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Below is the fifth installment in a 6-part series written for Opinion Maker by Jeff Gates, author of Guilt By Association. To assassinate an American president with impunity requires pre-staging. For Israel to succeed would require an Evil Doer on whom the deed could plausibly be blamed. The emerging fact patterns suggest that such pre-staging is well underway and that a Pakistani could be the perceived culprit. The recent history of Evil Doer branding offers insight into what to expect. Over the course of several years, Saddam Hussein, a brutal tyrant, morphed from a loyal and valued U.S. ally to the leader of a state portrayed as a member of the Axis of Evil ready and able to deploy weapons of mass destruction on a moment’s notice. Though that depiction was a lie; a plausible lie sufficed in the creation of a credible Evil Doer to help justify the invasion of Iraq. Similarly, the Taliban in all its many forms have long been religious fundamentalists with an intolerant streak exceeded only by their ferocity in defense of their severe version of Islam. During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, they were celebrated as the fierce Mujahideen and heralded as heroic freedom fighters by President Ronald Reagan. In the run-up to the provocation of 9-11, that positive “branding” abruptly changed when, six months prior to that mass murder, Afghanistan’s ancient Buddhas at Bamiyan were destroyed. When the Taliban took responsibility, they were rebranded worldwide as certifiably evil for what mainstream media portrayed as a “cultural holocaust.” When staging such power-of-association operations, timing is everything. By 9-11, the Taliban were seen as world-class Evil Doers. A similar pre-staging is underway in the U.S as manipulated impressions become the mental building blocks to create a plausible culprit from an Islamic nation. Keep in mind that repeated reports of Iraqi WMD created a generally accepted “consensus” truth—regardless of the facts. In a similar fashion, oft-repeated reports of the threat of Iranian WMD have steadily created the impression of a nuclear weapons capability with no basis in fact. But facts are not the point when pre-staging an Evil Doer. The point is what a targeted population can be induced to believe. Five Muslim students in the U.S. traveled to Pakistan in mid-December, setting off a flurry of reports about the threat of “homegrown terrorism.” Every report mentioned the recent shootings at Fort Hood, Texas by a Muslim psychiatrist. A series of other incidents helped enhance the plausibility of a violent event traceable to the requisite Islamic Evil Doer. The Justice Department announced this month that the trial of a 9-11 suspect will be held in Manhattan, with a second trial in nearby Brooklyn. In explaining the projected $150 million cost, local officials likened the extensive security to what is required for a New Year’s Eve celebration—only lasting for months. These trials are akin to a high profile publicity campaign certain to keep Americans on edge while enhancing the plausibility of “Islamic” violence. Insecurity, Plausibility & Accessibility Yet how could an assassin reach the most closely guarded president of modern times? The plausibility of a security breach has already been pre-staged. At the first state dinner by Obama, two aspiring contestants for a reality television show foiled White House security to come within handshake distance of the president. Though no one has yet conceded how that could have happened, both the president and the First Lady have an Ashkenazi chief of staff. Bodyguards were protecting Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin when in November 1995 a Likud Party member shot him at close range. Assassin Yigal Amir invoked a concept from ultra-orthodox Judaism to justify his murder of Rabin as a threat to Jews living in the settlements. Likud Party leader Benjamin Netanyahu led a series of rallies that Rabin described as provoking violence. Netanyahu was elected Prime Minister in June 1996 and immediately sought to inhibit implementation of the Oslo land-for-peace process agreed to by Rabin. That same year, Richard Perle led a Jewish-American team to prepare for Netanyahu a new policy titled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm (i.e., Israel). Then a member of the U.S. Defense Policy Board, Perle became its chairman in 2001. The central theme of A Clean Break: Israel should halt the return of Palestinian land and instead pursue an aggressive strategy that included as a priority the removal of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Should pro-Israeli extremists detect an inclination by Barack Obama to endorse a return of Palestinian land to the Palestinians, the likelihood of his assassination will greatly increase. For his death to appear plausibly due to an Islamic source requires pre-staging akin to what is now ongoing. To displace facts with what the public can be induced to believe requires a period of mental preparation in order to make misdirection believable. In July 2006, for instance, authors Jim Gilchrist and Jerome Corsi published Minutemen claiming that Hezbollah terrorists are sneaking across the Mexican border and plotting another 9-11. Minutemen was launched at Ground Zero, the site of the 9-11 attack, 14 days after Israel invaded Lebanon—in pursuit of Hezbollah. Had the U.S. suffered another attack, Iran-backed Hezbollah would have been the perceived culprit, providing a plausible rationale attack Iran. Corsi remains a prolific source of prepare-the-minds publications, including Atomic Iran released in early 2005 and calling for either the U.S. or Israel to preemptively bomb the “mad mullahs of Iran.” His latest release is The Obama Nation. With a first print run of 475,000, his attack on the presidential contender immediately topped The New York Times nonfiction bestseller list. Should Obama be murdered, Corsi’s book will provide an incremental component of plausibility that the assassin was opposed not to his changed policies on Israel but to his “socialism.” An Agenda in Need of a Crisis Other recent incidents enhance the plausibility that an assassin could enter the U.S. from abroad. Homeland Security conceded this month that a sensitive transportation security screening manual was posted on the Internet. The ordering of more troops to Afghanistan enhances the plausibility that extremists will be driven across the border into Pakistan, only to travel from there to the U.S. Obama’s Nobel Prize associated him with peace laureate Martin Luther King Jr. Were Obama also to die at the hands of an assassin, his “brand” has now been sufficiently enhanced that he would become an iconic figure. If Zionist extremists fail to provoke a crisis in the Middle East or South Asia, the murder of America’s first Black president would suffice as an attention-diverting crisis—particularly if those who produced his candidacy use his death to catalyze hatred between whites and blacks in the same way that they now market hatred for Muslims. So long as Barack Obama continues to serve Israeli interests, he will continue to live a charmed life. Should he hint that justice—say for the Palestinians—is a worthy goal, the pre-staging is in place to eliminate that threat. Likewise should he seek to shut down the ongoing oligarch-ization of America and the steady piling on of disabling debt. Should his death provoke race riots, the Department of Homeland Security is prepared to protect the agent provocateurs—under the guise of defending the perpetrators from anti-Semitism. Would Israel assassinate a U.S. president? What kind of world would we now inhabit if Senator William Fulbright and Attorney General Robert Kennedy had succeeded in 1962 in forcing the Israel Lobby to register as a foreign agent? How would the world be different if John F. Kennedy had succeeded in 1963 in forcing international inspections of Israel’s nuclear facility? When Robert Kennedy announced for the presidency in 1968, Tel Aviv did not know if he would revive JFK’s campaign to prevent Israel from igniting a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. Nor did anyone know if he and Fulbright would again seek transparency for Israeli operations disguised as domestic lobbying. When RFK was murdered in June 1968, the gunman was Palestinian. That lesson should not be lost on Pakistan. In dealing with Washington, Islamabad should also recall Senator Fulbright’s candid assessment in 1973: “Israel controls the U.S. Senate.” He was gone by 1974, twenty-five influence-imbedding years ago. J Gates
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#23. To: A K A Stone (#18)
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since aka stone doesnt believe in the rapture, but his protection of jews extends to giving sociopathic ashkenazi supremacists a free hand in america and israel, what are we supposed to think about aka stone? something's fishy.
i have to say that it's refreshing to see a newspaper that seems to be paying attention to history, seeing as how, since eisenhower, no american president has successfully defied israel and the sociopathic racial supremacists in the israel lobby. kennedy tried, by insisting on inspections of dimona, and look what happened to kennedy.
something's fishy. Who has a free hand in our country? There are differenc factions that believe different things. Right now the people I disagree with are in power. Actually for the last 20 years or so my foes have been in power here in the USA. ashkenazi is a propaganda term. Speak without propaganda. Then we can maybe get to the substance of the matter.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Not a fucking thing. BOZO the twit before he/she/it gives you Excedrin 666.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
You're just mad because I always beat you in our debates. Sore loser.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Or like calling Islam a legitimate religion. Or like not meeting with Netanyauh. Or like calling for the Jews to give up part of Jerusalem. Your really on the ball.....NOT Obama, like Bush before him, can say whatever he wants about Israel but they are just words to appease his voting base. His supposed stance on Israel is as phony as his supposed stance on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan when he was still a candidate. You are the one who is not on the ball, not I. You are an anti-American Israeli-firster who will not be happy until we are the United States of Israel and call for the extermination of every Muslim on the face of the earth. Your opinion means less than nothing to me because you are a blood worshiping degenerate.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
If you have to ask, she wont tell you. As usual you add nothing to the discussion.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Uh asswipe. I don't support any of the wars we are in and never have. So get your facts straight before calling names ok. You on the other hand are a muslim otherwise known as a worshipper of the pedophile mohammad.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
the ashkenazi sociopaths of israel and their lobby have the upper hand... either that or they've been outsmarted by goys who figure on scapegoating jews for this mess we're submerging ourselves in... possible, maybe inevitable, given the inevitability of peak oil. anyhow, obama's walking a fine line, here... he's got to keep all the factions in line, so he makes these grand speeches, tones down the anti-muslim rhetoric, makes token objections to israeli settlement expansion... all in a vain attempt to appease the peaceniks, while caving in on the settlements and continuing to expand israel's wars. if obama had lived up to his campaign promises, he'd probably be a much more likely candidate for assassination by the mossad... and he's still not off the hook, as can be seen by the relentless pressure from israel and the lobby.
I think that Obama is paying lip service to the Jews at times. But he basically hates them and sides with the muslims. I think it is very likely he is a closeted muslim. Muslims lie about stuff like that. It is in their unholy book the Kaka.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
1.5% of Americans are Jewish and 7% of congress? We need affirmative action for Christian congresscritters.
My views on all religions are well known on this site. You are the sucker that falls for that shit not I. As for not supporting the wars, what a laugh. You are an Israeli-firster through and through. You would rent your children for sex to your nearest synagogue if so asked by one of your "chosen" ones.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
oh. ashkenazi supremacists dont lie? did they lie us into iraq? ...are they trying to lie us into iran? ...is the official 9/11 conspiracy theory anything but a pack of lies? and what about these radicals' adoration of leo strauss, who thought the governed should be lied to as a matter of policy by the ashkenazi governing elite?
Eric Cantor pro life Jew.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
oh. Yes it is a commandment in the kaka er I mean the Koran. The Bible the holy book of the Jews says lying is wrong. That is one way to tell that the muslims are practicing a vile religion. That and the fact that they worship a pedophile.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
i guess you must have done your kol nidre already for this year, huh? *shrug*
As for not supporting the wars, what a laugh. You are an Israeli-firster through and through. You would rent your children for sex to your nearest synagogue if so asked by one of your "chosen" ones. Well I have already proven you a liar. Now you are lying again. Just like a mulsim is supposed to do according to the Koran. Looks like a muslim quack like a muslim. No doubt your a muslim.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I confess ignorance on what that is.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
i have to say your confession of ignorance sounds like another lie... which is okay, because you've done your kol nidre.
The only thing you've proven is how stupid you are by taking the words of a politician proven to be a liar at face value. But then that's what partisans of the two party fraud do isn't it. Believe rhetoric while ignoring actions. Looks like a muslim quack like a muslim. No doubt your a muslim. That's right, because everyone that doesn't bow down and become an Israeli house niggar like yourself is a Muslim. Brilliant deduction Sherlock.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
That isn't in the Bible. You confuse books written by bad Jews with the word of God. The muslims consider the Koran to be holy. The Bible is the holy book of the Jews and for that matter the rest of mankind. Show me fault in that book if you think you can.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
oh. so when jews vow to disregard all vows, you think they're doing that because... well, why? is the kol nidre ceremony something like american kids going to the mall and sitting on santa's lap? sorry, but if you're that ignorant of jewish customs, beliefs and behavior, you have no business defending them. we have to assume you're a ringer.
Like I said. There are good and bad Jews. There are good italians and bad italians. There are good and bad chinese. Because some Jews decide to follow something other then the Bible is not surprising. Throughout the History of the world found in the Bible you saw this. For example when Moses went to Mt Sinai.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
Well now, why then did you pose the question???? IF INDEED you knew the answer, you would not have asked.
the problem seems to be this: bad jews, ashkenazi racial supremacists bent on running the world, salvaging israel and looting america blind in the process, have seized control of america, and you defend them. because of your dogged defense of israel, israelis, their policies, and your refusal to acknowledge the damage to america being done as a result of these ashkenazi supremacist policies, we have to assume you are either dreadfully ignorant ---so ignorant that you're unqualified to participate in these discussions--- or you're a ringer. personally, i'm leaning towards the opinion you're a ringer.
we have to assume you're a ringer. The greatest under-assumption I've seen in a very long time.
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
Oh really. I don't support any foreign aid. I don't support any wars. I want to bring the troops home and build fortress american. Im against abortion. Im for the right to own guns and weapons. I support the constitution as it is worded not the pretend way most or all of our leaders do today. I'm as American as apple pie. Now on Israel. I think Israel has a right to exist. I can understand them not wanting to be governed by muslims under muslim law. I don't think they need our help and can defend themselves just fine if need be.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
I will say this about you. We can disagree and keep it relatively civil. Some others here aren't capable of that.
Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson
you just recited this litany of things you're against... why cant you admit you're against the people whose policies are damaging america? these people must be exempt from criticism because they've so successfully exploited their holyhoax persecution myth, huh? and you dont have balls enough to admit that the driving force behind all these things that are damaging america ---your country, as you are at such pains to point out--- is radical ashkenazi racial supremacist jews.
On what grounds?
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Some others here aren't capable of that. Oh boo hoo. You start shit with me and when I hand you your ass you act as if you've been wronged. If you were interested in having a civil conversation, you would not have responded the way you did to me in post number two. If you are going to respond to me as an obnoxious prick then I will respond in kind. You could have easily said, "I disagree because....." and then laid out your reasoning. Then I would have responded back as to why I disagree. Like I did to you on the marijuana conversation we had the other day. THAT is civil discourse. "Your really on the ball.....NOT" is not how one begins a civil conversation. So quit crying your crocodile tears and man up. You received exactly what you deserved.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
What a lark. Why the fuck would this tool even ask the question with such a good little boy like obamalamadingdong finishing the agenda ??? Did tititowicz write this ???
Not. The Jew, turned outstanding Christian, Michael Hoffman, wrote a book about their "holy" book [I find it hard to believe you haven't heard about it]: Truth About the Talmud: Judaism's Holiest Book The Bible is the holy book of the Jews and for that matter the rest of mankind. The Jews have boiled down their Talmud to the 7 [plus] Noahide Laws for the rest of mankind: "Now the Government Can Legally Kill Christians ..... HJ Res. 104, it seems to be a vehicle for recognizing the eighty-ninth birthday and the beginning of the 90th year of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson which fell on March 26, 1991. I have no recollection of anyone asking me to co-sponsor this Resolution so I am not familiar with what reasons were given to House of Representative members to sign on as co-sponsors. The language of the Resolution speaks for itself. But the consequences of their adoption is that the Seven Noahide Laws have been recognized by the Congress of the United States and the President of America as “the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization” and the claim will be made that they are now the law of our land, the United States. Most Americans would be shocked to learn that the Babylonian Talmud, NOT the Old Testament, is the “Holiest” book of Judaism, and is the source of these Seven Noahide Laws, which provide a specific penalty for violating any of these Seven Noahide Laws, namely death by decapitation [Sanhedrin 57A] Make no mistake about it, what appeared to be nothing more than a recognition of the eighty-ninth birthday of Rabbi Schneerson and the establishment of Education Day in the United States will be claimed by the proponents of this Resolution as the establishment of a law by which a Christian who worships Jesus Christ will be charged with idolatry and decapitated. Based on my fourteen years of service in the House of Representatives, the process by which HJ Res. 104 was adopted was a complete disregard and purposeful circumvention of a very important basis on which representative government is founded. Namely, accountability to the people of America of how we conduct the people’s business. Specifically, roll call votes are the means whereby members of Congress identify what laws have been passed and by whom. When laws and resolutions pass by unanimous consent, watch out! In this case someone or some group wanted to hide the real purpose behind a seemingly innocuous birthday recognition of Rabbi Schneerson......." http://www.takebackourrights.org...Christians-full%20p....... "from The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today Chapter Summary Bible scholars are aware that Jesus Christ denounced the Pharisees. He said they nullified all the Commandments of God by their Tradition, "teaching for doctrines the commandments of men" (Mark 7:13; Matt. 15:6-9, etc.). His invective, in truth, cannot be equalled. All of Matthew 23 is like a whiplash. He likened Pharisaism to a whited sepulchre, indeed beautiful outwardly, but "inside full of dead men's bones and of all uncleanness." Christ climaxed one condemnation after another with the expletive, "Hypocrites!" He called the Pharisees children of them that killed the Prophets. He foretold they would go on killing, crucifying and persecuting until the guilt for all the righteous blood shed from Abel on down would be upon them. "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" Christ asked. Christ is as utterly devastating of Pharisaism in the record of John 8. Although He admitted that His hearers were descendants of Abraham, He said they were, spiritually, of the devil. Christ told them: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because the truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it (John 8:44). The Missing Link "But," says the disinterested Christian, "what has that to do with us today? What a group of Pharisees did two thousand years ago is over and done with!" However, the missing link in Christian understanding on the subject of "Pharisees" is best supplied by the Universal *** Jewish Encyclopedia (1943): **** The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single piece of that literature … and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism. Concerning the Pharisees, the 1905 Jewish Encyclopedia says: With the destruction of the Temple (70 A.D.) the Sadducees disappeared altogether, leaving the regulation of all Jewish affairs in the hands of the Pharisees. Henceforth, Jewish life was regulated by the Pharisees; the whole history of Judaism was reconstructed from the Pharisaic point of view, and a new aspect was given to the Sanhedrin of the past. A new chain of tradition supplanted the older priestly tradition (Abot 1:1). Pharisaism shaped the character of Judaism and the life and thought of the Jew for all the future. (See Exhibit 264 herein.) Historically speaking, scripture believers had accepted Christ as the Messiah foretold. They were no longer "Jews," but called themselves "Christians." They were persecuted as such by the Pharisees. The word "Pharisee" comes from the word "separated." (See Exhibit 300.) The Babylonian Talmud, Sole Authority You may ascertain by turning to top Jewish authorities today that the Babylonian Talmud, the written form of the Tradition of the Pharisees, is the sole authority of the so-called "Jewish" religion, or Judaism. ........" "...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
That is one way to tell that the muslims are practicing a vile religion. That and the fact that they worship a pedophile. Pot calling the kettle black: "PEDOPHILIA: THE TALMUD'S DIRTY SECRET By Rev. Ted Pike .....In the late 19th century, most European Jews were a people of the book. But their book wasn’t the Bible. It was the Babylonian Talmud. To this day, the Talmud remains Judaism’s highest moral, ethical and legal authority. Does the Talmud share Christianity's foundation of wholesome moral values? Hardly. Instead, the Talmud is the sleazy substrata of a religious system gone terribly astray; it is that code of Pharisaic unbelief Christ described as "full of all uncleanness" (Matt. 23:27). Shockingly, Judaism’s most revered authority actually endorses such sins as lying, oath-breaking, and indirect murder. And it even sanctions one of the greatest sins of all: child molestation. Three Year Old Brides When Christ accused the Pharisees of His day of being Satan’s spiritual children, He fully realized what they were capable of. Second century Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, one of Judaism’s very greatest rabbis and a creator of Kabbalah, sanctioned pedophilia—permitting molestation of baby girls even younger than three! He proclaimed, “A proselyte who is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.” 1 Subsequent rabbis refer to ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia as "halakah," or binding Jewish law. 2 Has ben Yohai, child rape advocate, been disowned by modern Jews? Hardly. Today, in ben Yohai’s hometown of Meron, Israel, tens of thousands of orthodox and ultra-orthodox Jews gather annually for days and nights of singing and dancing in his memory. References to pedophilia abound in the Talmud. They occupy considerable sections of Treatises Kethuboth and Yebamoth and are enthusiastically endorsed by the Talmud’s definitive legal work, Treatise Sanhedrin. The Pharisees Endorsed Child Sex......" www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html Excellent expose here, along with images from the "holiest" [vile] book itself.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
On what grounds? Touché !
Doing what's right isn't always easy but it's always right.
"Evil Doer?" More like a national hero.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. And because Israel can defend itself "just fine," that's why it maintains an arsenal of 200+ nukes - the Samson Option threat/blackmail of the USA - to take the world down with it when Israel's neighbors over run it, which would most certainly happen. Israel can't stand on its own. It's own people don't even want to do compulsory military service and yet you believe these same Israelis would defend Israel? Ha! They'd be on the first El Al flights out of Israel to NYC and LA to join their IsraelFirster American cousins hiding under their beds. Give me a break.
Surprised?? A. The Rupture is a heresy (it ain't going to happen) and is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible either old or new Testament. It is a creation in whole cloth by a semi-literate cretin for Lord only knows what motivation beyond his own temporal enrichment and power. B. Being Chosen does not mean spiritually perfect or perfected it means that at one time SOME Jews were lifted up to be taught, they rejected the teachings, as Moses said at the time he returned from the Mount. C. The New Testament superseded the Old Testament and that elder covenant and established a NEW covenant. Therefore the elder covenant is null and void thus the Jews were from that time forward no longer "the Chosen". This is also supported by Orthodox Rabbi's, true to the Torah (although not accepting Jesus as The Messiah) - which is God's Law as opposed to the Talmud which is man's perversion of that law. If one follows Orthodox Judaism then Israel is illegimate and a bastardization of God's will and decree. You may engage in whatever sophistry you desire but the truth remains true.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Two qoutes from Thomas Jefferson. History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes (Letter to von Humboldt, 1813). In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own (Letter to H. Spafford, 1814).
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
I agree. Personally, I want to see a note signed by God saying he gave anything to anyone. History says any country can exist as long as they are able to do so by force of arms.
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#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)
#25. To: groundresonance (#23)
since aks stone doesnt believe in the rapture, but his protection of jews extends to giving sociopathic ashkenazi supremacists a free hand in america and israel, what are we supposed to think about aka stone?
#26. To: groundresonance (#23)
what are we supposed to think about aka stone?
#27. To: noone222 (#26)
#28. To: A K A Stone (#2)
Like calling for freezes in settlements (obama wants jews homeless)
#29. To: Cynicom (#3)
Christine knows the answer.
#30. To: F.A. asswipe (#28)
#31. To: A K A Stone (#25)
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Who has a free hand in our country?
#32. To: groundresonance (#31)
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby
#34. To: A K A Stone (#30)
You on the other hand are a muslim otherwise known as a worshipper of the pedophile mohammad.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#32)
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Muslims lie about stuff like that.
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
You can research it from now until next Christmas, but if you're honest, the answer will be the Jews in congress are leftists, pro abortion, pigs. Not one is an American, but do try and prove me wrong.
#37. To: groundresonance (#35)
Muslims lie about stuff like that.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#37)
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Yes it is a commandment in the kaka er I mean the Koran
"All personal vows we are likely to make, all personal oaths and pledges we are likely to take between this Yom Kippur and the next Yom Kippur, we publicly renounce. Let them all be relinquished and abandoned, null and void, neither firm nor established. Let our personal vows, pledges and oaths be considered neither vows nor pledges nor oaths."
#39. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#34)
My views on all religions are well known on this site. You are the sucker that falls for that shit not I.
#40. To: groundresonance (#38)
kol nidre
#41. To: A K A Stone (#40)
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I confess ignorance on what that is.
"All personal vows we are likely to make, all personal oaths and pledges we are likely to take between this Yom Kippur and the next Yom Kippur, we publicly renounce. Let them all be relinquished and abandoned, null and void, neither firm nor established. Let our personal vows, pledges and oaths be considered neither vows nor pledges nor oaths."
#42. To: A K A Stone (#39)
Well I have already proven you a liar. Now you are lying again.
#43. To: groundresonance (#41)
"All personal vows we are likely to make, all personal oaths and pledges we are likely to take between this Yom Kippur and the next Yom Kippur, we publicly renounce. Let them all be relinquished and abandoned, null and void, neither firm nor established. Let our personal vows, pledges and oaths be considered neither vows nor pledges nor oaths."
#44. To: A K A Stone (#43)
#45. To: groundresonance (#44)
#46. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#29)
As usual you add nothing to the discussion.
#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)
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There are good and bad Jews. There are good italians and bad italians. There are good and bad chinese.
#48. To: groundresonance (#44)
A K A Stone
#49. To: groundresonance (#47)
the problem seems to be this: bad jews, ashkenazi racial supremacists bent on running the world, salvaging israel and looting america blind in the process, have seized control of america, and you defend them.
#50. To: groundresonance (#47)
#51. To: A K A Stone (#49)
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#52. To: A K A Stone (#49)
I think Israel has a right to exist
#53. To: A K A Stone, groundresonance (#50)
I will say this about you. We can disagree and keep it relatively civil.
#54. To: christine (#0)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#55. To: A K A Stone (#43)
The Bible is the holy book of the Jews and for that matter the rest of mankind.
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#56. To: A K A Stone (#37)
The Bible the holy book of the Jews says lying is wrong.
11 Oct 06
#57. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#52)
I think Israel has a right to exist
#58. To: christine (#0)
For Israel to succeed would require an Evil Doer on whom the deed could plausibly be blamed. The emerging fact patterns suggest that such pre-staging is well underway and that a Pakistani could be the perceived culprit. The recent history of Evil Doer branding offers insight into what to expect.
Lord Acton
#59. To: A K A Stone (#49)
I don't think they need our help and can defend themselves just fine if need be.
#60. To: A K A Stone (#5)
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Jews who are in favor of abortion are evil. Not all Jews are good. But they are not all bad either.
#61. To: christine (#0)
#62. To: Original_Intent (#60)
You may engage in whatever sophistry you desire but the truth remains true.
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