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Title: Could McCain_Rocks Actually Be As Retarded As His Posts Make Him Look?
Source: LP
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... gi?ArtNum=280760&Disp=313#C313
Published: Jan 7, 2010
Author: McCain_Rocks
Post Date: 2010-01-07 13:56:11 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 1230
Comments: 124

A pathway to citizenship is the only way to go. It worked for the great Ronaldus Maximus Reagan and has been advocated by such Republican stalwarts as president George H.W. Bush, the Honorable John McCain and his loyal sidekick, the sainted Sarah Palin. For that matter, just about the whole Republican Party.

The racist skinheads on this board will accept nothing less than spending billions of dollars hunting down illegal immigrants like they were dogs. Not only is this ridiculously simple minded, but in the end it will bankrupt businesses nationwide at a time when this country cannot afford it.

McCain_Rocks posted on 2010-01-07 11:04:29 ET Reply Trace

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Ronaldus Maximus Reagan

BULLSHIT!

I agree completely. I know Reagan was a hero to many but not to me. While people talked long and loud about the tax cuts they never mentioned TEFRA (Tax Equalization and Fiscal Responsibilty Act). If I remember correctly that was the largest peace-time tax INCREASE in the history of the country. And there was all the deficit spending they engaged in. Reagan complained about the deficit spending but not once did he submit a balanced budget. So no, he was not a hero to me.

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-07   17:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You should not take everything that poster posts seriously. Maybe nothing. He might be serious with some posts, but he spends a lot if time pulling people's legs, for sure.

rotgut  posted on  2010-01-07   18:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, I really don't know what to make of him. It would be tragic if someone as insane as he sounds sometimes was actually out amongst other people. He could climb the tower any day and take out lots of innocent people if he really is that crazy.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-07   18:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

All that being said, even Lou Dobbs is now saying we can't just round up every illegal and that there needs to be a pathway to citizenship.

rotgut  posted on  2010-01-07   18:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ah come on fifty screen names, M^cInsane_rocks is a retard just like yourself.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-07   18:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

All that being said, even Lou Dobbs is now saying we can't just round up every illegal and that there needs to be a pathway to citizenship.

Lou Dobbs can be forgiven the occasional error. They can be deported when they are caught violating the law--you know, drunk driving, murdering, raping, little stuff like that. And they would self deport if the government would cut out the bs anchor baby crap. Along with telling the ones caught in the states illegally that they will NEVER be allowed entrance into the US since other people are waiting in line and they jumped the line.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-07   18:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

or someone deliberately trying to make ElPee look bad. that's what i'm leaning toward.

christine  posted on  2010-01-07   18:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He told me once something to the effect of if he had his way he'd put people like me on my knees and put a bullet in the back of my head.

that makes me think even more, my theory is correct.

christine  posted on  2010-01-07   18:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

... someone deliberately trying to make ElPee look bad. that's what i'm leaning toward.

No way. No one would do that.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.�

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-07   18:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

hehehehehe

christine  posted on  2010-01-07   18:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

While people talked long and loud about the tax cuts they never mentioned TEFRA (Tax Equalization and Fiscal Responsibilty Act). If I remember correctly that was the largest peace-time tax INCREASE in the history of the country

It's a little more complicated than that.

Ronald Reagan agreed to the tax hikes on the promise from Congress of a $3 reduction in spending for every $1 increase in taxes. Some conservatives, led by then-Congressman Jack Kemp, claim that the promised spending reductions never occurred[2] .

The original TEFRA bill as passed by the House lowered taxes[6]. The Democratic-controlled Senate replaced the text of the original House bill with a number of tax increases, and the bill became law

One week after TEFRA was signed, H.R. 6863 - the Supplemental Appropriations Act of 1982 which Ronald Reagan claimed would "bust the budget" [3] was passed by both houses of Congress over his veto[4

Once again, the truth about RR shines as bright as the man he was; and once again it's the RATS who steal our money and shred our Constitution

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax...esponsibility_Act_of_1982

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-07   19:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

After reading your post and then reading the cited post I would have to agree.

Thanks. Another characteristic that I didn't mention but I believe valid is false emotions i.e., his emotional response, what little there really is, seems mechanical and detached. This is one of the traits listed in the Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

8 Traits of The Disinformationalist: What to Look For

6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-07   19:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

or someone deliberately trying to make ElPee look bad. that's what i'm leaning toward.

Please excuse me for disagreeing. I have seen that particular poster around for enough years (as far back as 2001) and the style and manner remain unchanged in all that time. Artificial emotions, almost detached, yet doggedly pushing the Party line virtually verbatim - including the talking points. No, there is a specific function his posting is fulfilling and I think I finally hit on it.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-07   19:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

who am i to argue? ;)

now i'm off to a friend's house to watch Tx/Alabama...

Go Longhorns!

christine  posted on  2010-01-07   19:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

someone deliberately trying to make ElPee look bad. that's what i'm leaning toward.

Of late, it doesn't need the help. The one good thing about MCR is that he makes Itzlzha's head explode. That little twerp always talking about the ruling EEE-lites and SERFS. Gets thin pretty quickly.

Then you have beyond the sea posting pics of Sarah Palin and inventing fantasy dialogue wheren she calls him "Stick" and asks him to work on her campaign, to which he dreamily replies "Yes, Sarah, I'm your guy".

I think I've decided to be pissed off at Neil for giving that shithole a second life no matter how much money it paid. It did a disservice to the rest of the internet.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-01-07   19:34:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ohhh---Don't be mad.

mel_living  posted on  2010-01-07   19:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Still, you can't give Reagan credit for tax cuts without acknowledging that he was also responsible, at least in part, for budget deficits. While he made noise about them he never once presented a balanced budget. And why would Congress pass one if they never got one?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-07   20:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ah come on fifty screen names, McInsane_rocks is a retard just like yourself.

ROFL!! It is really the case of pot kettle black! lol

If this Globe gets any Warmer, I'll fucking freeze to death!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-01-07   21:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That sounds right.

If this Globe gets any Warmer, I'll fucking freeze to death!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-01-07   21:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

While he made noise about them he never once presented a balanced budget. And why would Congress pass one if they never got one?

Since when did the President write the budget?

IIRC, President Reagan walked into Congress carrying a 2+ foot thick budget and told them to never to give him another one like it.

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-07   21:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A pathway to citizenship is the only way to go. It worked for the great Ronaldus Maximus Reagan and has been advocated by such Republican stalwarts as president George H.W. Bush, the Honorable John McCain and his loyal sidekick, the sainted Sarah Palin. For that matter, just about the whole Republican Party.

Republicans and Democrats want immigration of any kind for one reason - the US government needs more money. More people means a bigger economy - which means more taxes.

The US government cannot begin to pay all the obligations it has - so they need 400 million people to tax.

Social Security and Medicare are a giant Ponsey schemes - just like Maddoff - money that comes in today is used to pay off yesterday's obligations. 300 million Americans cannot possibly pay the bills of the US government.

The politicians will not say it - but that is the truth.

your_neighbor  posted on  2010-01-07   22:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Since when did the President write the budget?

IIRC, President Reagan walked into Congress carrying a 2+ foot thick budget and told them to never to give him another one like it.

Q. How does this process start off each year?

A. The President submits a budget to Congress in early February. This lays out the President’s priorities, and includes details as to how much money he wants allocated to each federal program. The budget request also sets forth the President’s wishes with regard to reducing or raising taxes. However, the President’s proposed budget is only a recommendation. Congress has the “power of the purse.” And under the Constitution, it is Congress’s job to actually write and pass the budget.

http://harkin.senate.gov/pr/col.cfm?id=237366

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   8:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Social Security and Medicare are a giant Ponsey schemes - just like Maddoff - money that comes in today is used to pay off yesterday's obligations.

I have known that for a long time. Wrote about it a good bit back in the 80's.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   8:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And under the Constitution, it is Congress’s job to actually write and pass the budget.

You answered your own question

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   8:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, and I answered yours too. One more time: "The President submits a budget to Congress in early February. This lays out the President’s priorities, and includes details as to how much money he wants allocated to each federal program... Why did Reagan never submit a balanced budget if he wanted Congress to pass one?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   8:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why did Reagan never submit a balanced budget

Is this how you measure a great President? Have you ever heard of the Cold War? Have you ever heard of the Firearm Owners Protection Act?

Reagan won the Cold War and was responsible for the ONLY law to strengthen gun rights ever passed. There's a lot more too but you sound like you've voted RAT your whole life.....

Did you?

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   10:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, just keep on insulting people. The answer as to whether I have always, or ever, voted RAT, is not just no but HELL NO! I vote libertarian, not for establishment whores like some folks. You people who keep insisting that there is some great difference between the R's and D's are part of the problem. You keep on doing what you always did and you keep on getting what you always got.

And you still haven't answered my question. If Reagan wanted Congress to pass a balanced budget then wtf did he never submit one? He could have had the high ground on that issue and told people that he gave them a balanced budget but they wouldn't pass it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   10:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The answer as to whether I have always, or ever, voted RAT, is not just no but HELL NO! I vote libertarian, not for establishment whores like some folks.

I voted for Badnarik in 04 and gave RP a bundle. You don't have a monopoly on voting Libertarian

You people who keep insisting that there is some great difference between the R's and D's are part of the problem. You keep on doing what you always did and you keep on getting what you always got.

I voted for McCain hoping for gridlock, I didn't get it. When you look at people who do hold office, there is usually a huge differance between R & Ds. That's not to say there aren't too many RINO turncoats but how many Congressmen have an L behind their names.......zero

And you still haven't answered my question. If Reagan wanted Congress to pass a balanced budget then wtf did he never submit one? He could have had the high ground on that issue and told people that he gave them a balanced budget but they wouldn't pass it.

Were you there during the Cold War? Crushing the Evil Empire was more important than balancing the budget. Reagan gave us hope that died with his illness and the betrayal the CFR Bush wing of the Republican Party.

Did RR submit a balanced budget, no he did not. If he had, the Commissars in Moscow would have been popping Champagne corks to celibate.

President Ronald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union, that accomplishment alone should elicit the gratitude of all real Americans.

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   16:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

lets all forget that ronnie raygun's cabinet like all presidents for the past 70 years plus were/are members of the CFR and his VP poppybush and carter were pals in the trilateral commision.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   16:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ronnie raygun's

How Juvenile

cabinet like all presidents for the past 70 years plus were/are members of the CFR and his VP poppybush and carter were pals in the trilateral commision.

Ronald Reagan was NOT a CFR or TLC member, in fact he despised them. RR didn't select Bush as VP, it was forced upon him by David Rockefeller. Have you ever asked yourself why Nancy Reagan dosen't speak to the Bushs' to this day?

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   17:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I never said raygun was CFR or trilat but fools think he is some how special when in fact the system never changed while he was in power because he capitulated to the CFR's demands that he take on CFR members into his administration. if you want to worship the coot go for it.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   18:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I never said raygun was CFR or trilat but fools think he is some how special when in fact the system never changed while he was in power because he capitulated to the CFR's demands that he take on CFR members into his administration. if you want to worship the coot go for it.

I couldn't have said it better. Reagan should never have accepted Bush as his running mate.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   19:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the RNCFR would not let raygun run without poppybush. primaries for presidential candidates are nonsense as only candidates allowed to run for the RNCFR or the DNCFR have already been selected by the CFR and the CFR controlled media will swear up and down that the RNCFR and DNCFR candidates are the only ones running. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that every State of these various united States of America have in their constitution that the votes shall not be counted in secret but unless the votes are hand counted they are in fact being counted in secret. until the peoples demand the polling places obey their State constitution and openly hand count the votes the system will not change.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   19:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I couldn't have said it better. Reagan should never have accepted Bush as his running mate.

Reagan never would have won the GOP nomination without accepting Herbert as his running mate, at least if you believe the verifiable crap spouted by David Rockefeller. He explicitly explained how he pitted Reagan against Carter, I'm sure all of you are familiar with the story, if not ask and I'll provide y'all a couple links to start on. :)

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-01-08   19:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the RNCFR would not let raygun run without poppybush.

In a situation like that, what would be the course of an honorable man, one worthy of all the adulation that has been heaped upon him? Would he not, if he were such an honorable and decent man, get on tv and tell the people that there were people behind the scenes pulling the strings who would not allow anyone but their puppets to be president? He could back that up with a quote from Benjamin Disraeli, a Prime Minister of England, who said, "For you see, the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." He could have told the American people that their elections were shams, that the only "choices" they were given were between two men who were both owned and controlled by the same people. He chose not to do that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   20:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ping to #76.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   20:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

raygun had his chance to speak up but didn't because he lusted the position more than he loved the truth. it takes a forked tongue to speak from both sides of ones mouth. ronnie's posturing in '79 about the CFR and the trilats and poppybush was just that, posturing.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   21:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yep. An honest, honorable man would never have gone along with having a known traitor in the second spot. At least, that is my opinion.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   21:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

but fools think he is some how special

While bigger fools can't see the truth

if you want to worship the coot go for it.

"Coot"? You're kidding, right?. That's a pretty ignorant adjective to describe the man who brought down the USSR.

Just curious, what's your political background/affiliation?

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   22:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anybody is better than Obama. Anybody.

Anybody is better than Pelosi. Anybody.

Anybody is better than Barney Fag. Anybody

Anybody is better than anything named Bush, Dole, McCain, Waxman, Spector, or the Minnesota Jew, Smiley.

Just some random thoughts.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-01-08   22:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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