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Title: Could McCain_Rocks Actually Be As Retarded As His Posts Make Him Look?
Source: LP
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... gi?ArtNum=280760&Disp=313#C313
Published: Jan 7, 2010
Author: McCain_Rocks
Post Date: 2010-01-07 13:56:11 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 1174
Comments: 124

A pathway to citizenship is the only way to go. It worked for the great Ronaldus Maximus Reagan and has been advocated by such Republican stalwarts as president George H.W. Bush, the Honorable John McCain and his loyal sidekick, the sainted Sarah Palin. For that matter, just about the whole Republican Party.

The racist skinheads on this board will accept nothing less than spending billions of dollars hunting down illegal immigrants like they were dogs. Not only is this ridiculously simple minded, but in the end it will bankrupt businesses nationwide at a time when this country cannot afford it.

McCain_Rocks posted on 2010-01-07 11:04:29 ET Reply Trace

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#40. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Ronaldus Maximus Reagan

BULLSHIT!

Nothing pisses me off more than nitwits who didn't understand the Reagan presidency!

By the time the amnesty went through, due to his Alzheimers and Hinckley's bullet, RR was no longer in control. It was poppy Bush who did this, not the Great Helmsman.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-07   16:18:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Flintlock (#40)

Ronaldus Maximus Reagan

BULLSHIT!

I agree completely. I know Reagan was a hero to many but not to me. While people talked long and loud about the tax cuts they never mentioned TEFRA (Tax Equalization and Fiscal Responsibilty Act). If I remember correctly that was the largest peace-time tax INCREASE in the history of the country. And there was all the deficit spending they engaged in. Reagan complained about the deficit spending but not once did he submit a balanced budget. So no, he was not a hero to me.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-07   17:29:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: James Deffenbach (#42)

While people talked long and loud about the tax cuts they never mentioned TEFRA (Tax Equalization and Fiscal Responsibilty Act). If I remember correctly that was the largest peace-time tax INCREASE in the history of the country

It's a little more complicated than that.

Ronald Reagan agreed to the tax hikes on the promise from Congress of a $3 reduction in spending for every $1 increase in taxes. Some conservatives, led by then-Congressman Jack Kemp, claim that the promised spending reductions never occurred[2] .

The original TEFRA bill as passed by the House lowered taxes[6]. The Democratic-controlled Senate replaced the text of the original House bill with a number of tax increases, and the bill became law

One week after TEFRA was signed, H.R. 6863 - the Supplemental Appropriations Act of 1982 which Ronald Reagan claimed would "bust the budget" [3] was passed by both houses of Congress over his veto[4

Once again, the truth about RR shines as bright as the man he was; and once again it's the RATS who steal our money and shred our Constitution

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax...esponsibility_Act_of_1982

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-07   19:02:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Flintlock (#52)

Still, you can't give Reagan credit for tax cuts without acknowledging that he was also responsible, at least in part, for budget deficits. While he made noise about them he never once presented a balanced budget. And why would Congress pass one if they never got one?

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-07   20:06:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: James Deffenbach (#58)

While he made noise about them he never once presented a balanced budget. And why would Congress pass one if they never got one?

Since when did the President write the budget?

IIRC, President Reagan walked into Congress carrying a 2+ foot thick budget and told them to never to give him another one like it.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-07   21:38:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Flintlock (#61)

Since when did the President write the budget?

IIRC, President Reagan walked into Congress carrying a 2+ foot thick budget and told them to never to give him another one like it.

Q. How does this process start off each year?

A. The President submits a budget to Congress in early February. This lays out the President’s priorities, and includes details as to how much money he wants allocated to each federal program. The budget request also sets forth the President’s wishes with regard to reducing or raising taxes. However, the President’s proposed budget is only a recommendation. Congress has the “power of the purse.” And under the Constitution, it is Congress’s job to actually write and pass the budget.

http://harkin.senate.gov/pr/col.cfm?id=237366


I don't remember which congressman it was, but one of them who was tired of listening to his bs about the balanced budget asked him why he had never submitted one.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   8:32:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: James Deffenbach (#63)

And under the Constitution, it is Congress’s job to actually write and pass the budget.

You answered your own question

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   8:45:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Flintlock (#65) (Edited)

Yeah, and I answered yours too. One more time: "The President submits a budget to Congress in early February. This lays out the President’s priorities, and includes details as to how much money he wants allocated to each federal program... Why did Reagan never submit a balanced budget if he wanted Congress to pass one?

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   8:48:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: James Deffenbach (#66)

Why did Reagan never submit a balanced budget

Is this how you measure a great President? Have you ever heard of the Cold War? Have you ever heard of the Firearm Owners Protection Act?

Reagan won the Cold War and was responsible for the ONLY law to strengthen gun rights ever passed. There's a lot more too but you sound like you've voted RAT your whole life.....

Did you?

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   10:08:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Flintlock (#67) (Edited)

Yeah, just keep on insulting people. The answer as to whether I have always, or ever, voted RAT, is not just no but HELL NO! I vote libertarian, not for establishment whores like some folks. You people who keep insisting that there is some great difference between the R's and D's are part of the problem. You keep on doing what you always did and you keep on getting what you always got.

And you still haven't answered my question. If Reagan wanted Congress to pass a balanced budget then wtf did he never submit one? He could have had the high ground on that issue and told people that he gave them a balanced budget but they wouldn't pass it.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   10:20:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: James Deffenbach (#68)

lets all forget that ronnie raygun's cabinet like all presidents for the past 70 years plus were/are members of the CFR and his VP poppybush and carter were pals in the trilateral commision.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   16:28:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: IRTorqued (#70)

ronnie raygun's

How Juvenile

cabinet like all presidents for the past 70 years plus were/are members of the CFR and his VP poppybush and carter were pals in the trilateral commision.

Ronald Reagan was NOT a CFR or TLC member, in fact he despised them. RR didn't select Bush as VP, it was forced upon him by David Rockefeller. Have you ever asked yourself why Nancy Reagan dosen't speak to the Bushs' to this day?

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   17:51:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Flintlock (#71)

I never said raygun was CFR or trilat but fools think he is some how special when in fact the system never changed while he was in power because he capitulated to the CFR's demands that he take on CFR members into his administration. if you want to worship the coot go for it.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   18:59:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: IRTorqued, Flintlock (#72)

I never said raygun was CFR or trilat but fools think he is some how special when in fact the system never changed while he was in power because he capitulated to the CFR's demands that he take on CFR members into his administration. if you want to worship the coot go for it.

I couldn't have said it better. Reagan should never have accepted Bush as his running mate.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   19:15:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: James Deffenbach (#73)

the RNCFR would not let raygun run without poppybush. primaries for presidential candidates are nonsense as only candidates allowed to run for the RNCFR or the DNCFR have already been selected by the CFR and the CFR controlled media will swear up and down that the RNCFR and DNCFR candidates are the only ones running. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that every State of these various united States of America have in their constitution that the votes shall not be counted in secret but unless the votes are hand counted they are in fact being counted in secret. until the peoples demand the polling places obey their State constitution and openly hand count the votes the system will not change.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   19:55:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: IRTorqued (#74) (Edited)

the RNCFR would not let raygun run without poppybush.

In a situation like that, what would be the course of an honorable man, one worthy of all the adulation that has been heaped upon him? Would he not, if he were such an honorable and decent man, get on tv and tell the people that there were people behind the scenes pulling the strings who would not allow anyone but their puppets to be president? He could back that up with a quote from Benjamin Disraeli, a Prime Minister of England, who said, "For you see, the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." He could have told the American people that their elections were shams, that the only "choices" they were given were between two men who were both owned and controlled by the same people. He chose not to do that.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   20:44:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: James Deffenbach (#76)

raygun had his chance to speak up but didn't because he lusted the position more than he loved the truth. it takes a forked tongue to speak from both sides of ones mouth. ronnie's posturing in '79 about the CFR and the trilats and poppybush was just that, posturing.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   21:14:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: IRTorqued (#78)

Yep. An honest, honorable man would never have gone along with having a known traitor in the second spot. At least, that is my opinion.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   21:37:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: James Deffenbach, Dakmar (#79)

An honest, honorable man would never have gone along with having a known traitor in the second spot.

You know, LBJ said the VP spot wasn't worth a pitcher of warm spit, and RR understood that. So according to your logic (or lack off) RR should have declined the nomination because his VP was a CFR scumbag, right?

I've said and Dakmar confirmed that RR was TOLD by David Rockefeller if he didn't take Bush, the CFR wing of the RNC would sabotage him.

I knew Bush was a pos but I thought Reagan could have pulled it off in spite of him. Hinckley's bullets and Alzheimer's proved too much for the Great Helmsman to overcome

I'm not going to repeat this again, it's the second time I've told you.

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   22:36:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Flintlock (#83) (Edited)

I knew Bush was a pos

Reagan did too. Yet he kept that info to himself and declined to tell the American people the truth about their would-be masters.

As far as the Soviet Union, it would have dissolved years before Reagan even thought about running for President if the US hadn't kept it afloat. You know that old commie, FDR, loved "Uncle Joe." And the US aided them for many years. They were the best enemy money could buy. Our so-called "leaders" and theirs were "conning the mugs" as they say in England and boy, oh boy, did the mugs fall for it.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-09   8:12:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: James Deffenbach (#87)

I'm not going to repeat this again, it's the second time I've told you.

Go back and read #83 again until you get it

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-09   9:28:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Flintlock (#88) (Edited)

Oh, I "get it" alright. You have decided, despite massive evidence to the contrary, that one group of one worlders stands head and shoulders above their team mates. That attitude, that belief, is what got us where we are today with people voting for one of two one-worlder whores and saying ignorant $#it like, "I WOULD vote for an independent but I don't want to waste my vote." So they go vote for what they know, or should know, to be a statist whore and then claim that the Tweedledee they voted for wasn't as bad as his ideological twin, Tweedledumber.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-09   11:09:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#90. To: James Deffenbach, Flintlock (#89)

"If there`s to be a bloodbath let it be now." - Gov. Ronald Reagan, April 1970 in response to the Kent State shootings.

Reagan allowed a lot of brutal treatment of antiwar protesters to go on in Oakland that year, if I'm not mistaken, at the hand of the state cops. I put a lot of apprehensions out of my mind in casting the first vote of my life for him after having read Solshenitzin and a lot of other things and taking his tough stand against communism into account. But I will never vote for anyone again on the basis of ideological stripe because it's all just branding and I know now that they're all in it together.

randge  posted on  2010-01-09 13:11:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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