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Title: Could McCain_Rocks Actually Be As Retarded As His Posts Make Him Look?
Source: LP
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... gi?ArtNum=280760&Disp=313#C313
Published: Jan 7, 2010
Author: McCain_Rocks
Post Date: 2010-01-07 13:56:11 by James Deffenbach
Keywords: None
Views: 1322
Comments: 124

A pathway to citizenship is the only way to go. It worked for the great Ronaldus Maximus Reagan and has been advocated by such Republican stalwarts as president George H.W. Bush, the Honorable John McCain and his loyal sidekick, the sainted Sarah Palin. For that matter, just about the whole Republican Party.

The racist skinheads on this board will accept nothing less than spending billions of dollars hunting down illegal immigrants like they were dogs. Not only is this ridiculously simple minded, but in the end it will bankrupt businesses nationwide at a time when this country cannot afford it.

McCain_Rocks posted on 2010-01-07 11:04:29 ET Reply Trace

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#57. To: Samuel Gray (#56)

Ohhh---Don't be mad.


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mel_living  posted on  2010-01-07   19:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Flintlock (#52)

Still, you can't give Reagan credit for tax cuts without acknowledging that he was also responsible, at least in part, for budget deficits. While he made noise about them he never once presented a balanced budget. And why would Congress pass one if they never got one?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-07   20:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: IRTorqued (#46)

ah come on fifty screen names, McInsane_rocks is a retard just like yourself.

ROFL!! It is really the case of pot kettle black! lol

If this Globe gets any Warmer, I'll fucking freeze to death!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-01-07   21:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Original_Intent (#33)

That sounds right.

If this Globe gets any Warmer, I'll fucking freeze to death!!

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-01-07   21:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: James Deffenbach (#58)

While he made noise about them he never once presented a balanced budget. And why would Congress pass one if they never got one?

Since when did the President write the budget?

IIRC, President Reagan walked into Congress carrying a 2+ foot thick budget and told them to never to give him another one like it.

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-07   21:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

A pathway to citizenship is the only way to go. It worked for the great Ronaldus Maximus Reagan and has been advocated by such Republican stalwarts as president George H.W. Bush, the Honorable John McCain and his loyal sidekick, the sainted Sarah Palin. For that matter, just about the whole Republican Party.

Republicans and Democrats want immigration of any kind for one reason - the US government needs more money. More people means a bigger economy - which means more taxes.

The US government cannot begin to pay all the obligations it has - so they need 400 million people to tax.

Social Security and Medicare are a giant Ponsey schemes - just like Maddoff - money that comes in today is used to pay off yesterday's obligations. 300 million Americans cannot possibly pay the bills of the US government.

The politicians will not say it - but that is the truth.

your_neighbor  posted on  2010-01-07   22:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Flintlock (#61)

Since when did the President write the budget?

IIRC, President Reagan walked into Congress carrying a 2+ foot thick budget and told them to never to give him another one like it.

Q. How does this process start off each year?

A. The President submits a budget to Congress in early February. This lays out the President’s priorities, and includes details as to how much money he wants allocated to each federal program. The budget request also sets forth the President’s wishes with regard to reducing or raising taxes. However, the President’s proposed budget is only a recommendation. Congress has the “power of the purse.” And under the Constitution, it is Congress’s job to actually write and pass the budget.

http://harkin.senate.gov/pr/col.cfm?id=237366


I don't remember which congressman it was, but one of them who was tired of listening to his bs about the balanced budget asked him why he had never submitted one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   8:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: your_neighbor (#62)

Social Security and Medicare are a giant Ponsey schemes - just like Maddoff - money that comes in today is used to pay off yesterday's obligations.

I have known that for a long time. Wrote about it a good bit back in the 80's.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   8:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: James Deffenbach (#63)

And under the Constitution, it is Congress’s job to actually write and pass the budget.

You answered your own question

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   8:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Flintlock (#65) (Edited)

Yeah, and I answered yours too. One more time: "The President submits a budget to Congress in early February. This lays out the President’s priorities, and includes details as to how much money he wants allocated to each federal program... Why did Reagan never submit a balanced budget if he wanted Congress to pass one?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   8:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: James Deffenbach (#66)

Why did Reagan never submit a balanced budget

Is this how you measure a great President? Have you ever heard of the Cold War? Have you ever heard of the Firearm Owners Protection Act?

Reagan won the Cold War and was responsible for the ONLY law to strengthen gun rights ever passed. There's a lot more too but you sound like you've voted RAT your whole life.....

Did you?

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   10:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Flintlock (#67) (Edited)

Yeah, just keep on insulting people. The answer as to whether I have always, or ever, voted RAT, is not just no but HELL NO! I vote libertarian, not for establishment whores like some folks. You people who keep insisting that there is some great difference between the R's and D's are part of the problem. You keep on doing what you always did and you keep on getting what you always got.

And you still haven't answered my question. If Reagan wanted Congress to pass a balanced budget then wtf did he never submit one? He could have had the high ground on that issue and told people that he gave them a balanced budget but they wouldn't pass it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   10:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: James Deffenbach (#68)

The answer as to whether I have always, or ever, voted RAT, is not just no but HELL NO! I vote libertarian, not for establishment whores like some folks.

I voted for Badnarik in 04 and gave RP a bundle. You don't have a monopoly on voting Libertarian

You people who keep insisting that there is some great difference between the R's and D's are part of the problem. You keep on doing what you always did and you keep on getting what you always got.

I voted for McCain hoping for gridlock, I didn't get it. When you look at people who do hold office, there is usually a huge differance between R & Ds. That's not to say there aren't too many RINO turncoats but how many Congressmen have an L behind their names.......zero

And you still haven't answered my question. If Reagan wanted Congress to pass a balanced budget then wtf did he never submit one? He could have had the high ground on that issue and told people that he gave them a balanced budget but they wouldn't pass it.

Were you there during the Cold War? Crushing the Evil Empire was more important than balancing the budget. Reagan gave us hope that died with his illness and the betrayal the CFR Bush wing of the Republican Party.

Did RR submit a balanced budget, no he did not. If he had, the Commissars in Moscow would have been popping Champagne corks to celibate.

President Ronald Reagan brought down the Soviet Union, that accomplishment alone should elicit the gratitude of all real Americans.

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   16:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: James Deffenbach (#68)

lets all forget that ronnie raygun's cabinet like all presidents for the past 70 years plus were/are members of the CFR and his VP poppybush and carter were pals in the trilateral commision.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   16:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: IRTorqued (#70)

ronnie raygun's

How Juvenile

cabinet like all presidents for the past 70 years plus were/are members of the CFR and his VP poppybush and carter were pals in the trilateral commision.

Ronald Reagan was NOT a CFR or TLC member, in fact he despised them. RR didn't select Bush as VP, it was forced upon him by David Rockefeller. Have you ever asked yourself why Nancy Reagan dosen't speak to the Bushs' to this day?

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   17:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Flintlock (#71)

I never said raygun was CFR or trilat but fools think he is some how special when in fact the system never changed while he was in power because he capitulated to the CFR's demands that he take on CFR members into his administration. if you want to worship the coot go for it.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   18:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: IRTorqued, Flintlock (#72)

I never said raygun was CFR or trilat but fools think he is some how special when in fact the system never changed while he was in power because he capitulated to the CFR's demands that he take on CFR members into his administration. if you want to worship the coot go for it.

I couldn't have said it better. Reagan should never have accepted Bush as his running mate.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   19:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: James Deffenbach (#73)

the RNCFR would not let raygun run without poppybush. primaries for presidential candidates are nonsense as only candidates allowed to run for the RNCFR or the DNCFR have already been selected by the CFR and the CFR controlled media will swear up and down that the RNCFR and DNCFR candidates are the only ones running. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that every State of these various united States of America have in their constitution that the votes shall not be counted in secret but unless the votes are hand counted they are in fact being counted in secret. until the peoples demand the polling places obey their State constitution and openly hand count the votes the system will not change.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   19:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: James Deffenbach, Flintlock, IRTorqued (#73)

I couldn't have said it better. Reagan should never have accepted Bush as his running mate.

Reagan never would have won the GOP nomination without accepting Herbert as his running mate, at least if you believe the verifiable crap spouted by David Rockefeller. He explicitly explained how he pitted Reagan against Carter, I'm sure all of you are familiar with the story, if not ask and I'll provide y'all a couple links to start on. :)

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-01-08   19:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: IRTorqued (#74) (Edited)

the RNCFR would not let raygun run without poppybush.

In a situation like that, what would be the course of an honorable man, one worthy of all the adulation that has been heaped upon him? Would he not, if he were such an honorable and decent man, get on tv and tell the people that there were people behind the scenes pulling the strings who would not allow anyone but their puppets to be president? He could back that up with a quote from Benjamin Disraeli, a Prime Minister of England, who said, "For you see, the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." He could have told the American people that their elections were shams, that the only "choices" they were given were between two men who were both owned and controlled by the same people. He chose not to do that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   20:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Dakmar (#76)

ping to #76.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   20:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: James Deffenbach (#76)

raygun had his chance to speak up but didn't because he lusted the position more than he loved the truth. it takes a forked tongue to speak from both sides of ones mouth. ronnie's posturing in '79 about the CFR and the trilats and poppybush was just that, posturing.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   21:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: IRTorqued (#78)

Yep. An honest, honorable man would never have gone along with having a known traitor in the second spot. At least, that is my opinion.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-08   21:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: IRTorqued (#72)

but fools think he is some how special

While bigger fools can't see the truth

if you want to worship the coot go for it.

"Coot"? You're kidding, right?. That's a pretty ignorant adjective to describe the man who brought down the USSR.

Just curious, what's your political background/affiliation?

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   22:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Flintlock (#80) (Edited)

Anybody is better than Obama. Anybody.

Anybody is better than Pelosi. Anybody.

Anybody is better than Barney Fag. Anybody

Anybody is better than anything named Bush, Dole, McCain, Waxman, Spector, or the Minnesota Jew, Smiley.

Just some random thoughts.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-01-08   22:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Flintlock (#80)

the USSR was bankrupt as far back as 1921 so all that was required to bring them down was for the U.S. to stop propping them up. as far as my "affiliation" there is no difference between the RNCFR and the DNCFR so I vote for candidates who support the constitution, the candidate demonized by the CFR controlled media. if you want to vote for the CFR approved candidate go ahead it's your vote to waste.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   22:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: James Deffenbach, Dakmar (#79)

An honest, honorable man would never have gone along with having a known traitor in the second spot.

You know, LBJ said the VP spot wasn't worth a pitcher of warm spit, and RR understood that. So according to your logic (or lack off) RR should have declined the nomination because his VP was a CFR scumbag, right?

I've said and Dakmar confirmed that RR was TOLD by David Rockefeller if he didn't take Bush, the CFR wing of the RNC would sabotage him.

I knew Bush was a pos but I thought Reagan could have pulled it off in spite of him. Hinckley's bullets and Alzheimer's proved too much for the Great Helmsman to overcome

I'm not going to repeat this again, it's the second time I've told you.

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   22:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: IRTorqued (#82)

the USSR was bankrupt as far back as 1921

Really, for a bankrupt country they hung on pretty well for another 70 years until Ronald Reagan and "Star Wars" put a stake though their commie hearts.

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   22:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Flintlock (#84)

you'll never get it.


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   22:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: IRTorqued (#85)

you'll never get it.

Oh, I get it alright

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-08   23:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Flintlock (#83) (Edited)

I knew Bush was a pos

Reagan did too. Yet he kept that info to himself and declined to tell the American people the truth about their would-be masters.

As far as the Soviet Union, it would have dissolved years before Reagan even thought about running for President if the US hadn't kept it afloat. You know that old commie, FDR, loved "Uncle Joe." And the US aided them for many years. They were the best enemy money could buy. Our so-called "leaders" and theirs were "conning the mugs" as they say in England and boy, oh boy, did the mugs fall for it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-09   8:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: James Deffenbach (#87)

I'm not going to repeat this again, it's the second time I've told you.

Go back and read #83 again until you get it

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Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-09   9:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Flintlock (#88) (Edited)

Oh, I "get it" alright. You have decided, despite massive evidence to the contrary, that one group of one worlders stands head and shoulders above their team mates. That attitude, that belief, is what got us where we are today with people voting for one of two one-worlder whores and saying ignorant $#it like, "I WOULD vote for an independent but I don't want to waste my vote." So they go vote for what they know, or should know, to be a statist whore and then claim that the Tweedledee they voted for wasn't as bad as his ideological twin, Tweedledumber.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-09   11:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: James Deffenbach, Flintlock (#89)

"If there`s to be a bloodbath let it be now." - Gov. Ronald Reagan, April 1970 in response to the Kent State shootings.

Reagan allowed a lot of brutal treatment of antiwar protesters to go on in Oakland that year, if I'm not mistaken, at the hand of the state cops. I put a lot of apprehensions out of my mind in casting the first vote of my life for him after having read Solshenitzin and a lot of other things and taking his tough stand against communism into account. But I will never vote for anyone again on the basis of ideological stripe because it's all just branding and I know now that they're all in it together.

randge  posted on  2010-01-09   13:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: James Deffenbach (#0)

Could McCain_Rocks Actually Be As Retarded As His Posts Make Him Look?

No one can be that retarded and still be able to use a computer.


The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby

Critter  posted on  2010-01-09   13:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Critter (#91)

maybe he is one of these.
Main Entry: idiot sa·vant Pronunciation: È-ÌdyM-sä-Èvä?9;, or same as idiot and savant for respective sing and plural forms Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural idiots savants -ÌdyM-sä-Èvä?9;(z) or idiot savants -Èvä?9;(z) Etymology: French, literally, learned idiot Date: 1927

1 : a person affected with a mental disability (as autism or mental retardation) who exhibits exceptional skill or brilliance in some limited field (as mathematics or music) —called also savant 2 : a person who is highly knowledgeable about one subject but knows little about anything else


The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   13:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: randge (#90)

Too much hero worship of Reagan in my opinion. He did have some positive qualities but he was just a man and put his pants on one leg at a time. To hear some tell it they should change his name to Saint Ronald Reagan but I ain't buying. A lot of people have probably forgotten but he was involved in some unconstitutional stuff too (one of them being an attack on Grenada without a congressional declaration of war--I wonder why it is that every president figures we need to send soldiers off to kill people and I wonder why Congress lets them get away with it).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-09   13:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Critter (#91)

No one can be that retarded and still be able to use a computer.

Yes, something I had wondered about too.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-09   13:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Critter (#91)

No one can be that retarded and still be able to use a computer.

Not necessarily. byeltsin, byteshredder, and yukon come immediately to mind.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-01-09   13:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: James Deffenbach (#93)

A lot of people have probably forgotten but he was involved in some unconstitutional stuff too (one of them being an attack on Grenada without a congressional declaration of war-

Are you 18 or are you just stuck emotionally at 14? You have no concept of the world during the cold war, but keep posting, and I'll keep laughing (at you)

Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!

Flintlock  posted on  2010-01-09   18:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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