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Title: Our pipes are frozen this morning...no water
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Published: Jan 8, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-01-08 11:27:56 by christine
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it's cloudy with no sun to warm us up. the high predicted today is 35. currently it's 26 degrees (feels like 17). could be hours before the pipes unfreeze. i'm going nuts already.

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#2. To: christine (#0)

Are they inside or outside pipes?

If they're inside pipes, try turning on the hot water faucet in the bathtub. When the pipes start to thaw, the trickle of hot water from the hot water tank will warm up the pipes faster, that's if it's just the inside pipes that are frozen...

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-08   11:31:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i think it's the outside pipes going into the house that are frozen. i just did what you said and turned on the hot water spiggot on the master tub. thanks for the advice.

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   11:43:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's a few links that might help you out...

Thawing frozen pipes

Preventing and Thawing a Frozen Water Pipe

What should you do if a water pipe freezes?

How To Thaw Frozen Pipes

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-08   12:36:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Frozen Pipe Behind a Wall

When you find that the frozen pipe serving the faucet is behind a wall or ceiling, you've got a challenge on your hands. You have three choices:

Turn up the heat in the house and wait;
Tear out the wall or ceiling section to get at the frozen section of pipe. Then thaw the pipe as an exposed pipe;
Use an infrared lamp or lamps to assist in heating the wall section in front of where you think the frozen section is located. Infrared lamps are better than regular heat lamps because they pass through the air without heating it and will direct more energy to warming the wall and frozen pipe.

oh brother. it's anyone's guess where the frozen pipe(s) is!

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   12:47:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

if none of your water is running it is most likely where the supply line from the meter comes out of the ground next to your house. get a clamp on spot light fixture and spot light bulb aim it at the pipe and turn it on. for best results enclose the light and pipe in something even if it's just a tent made from a blanket surrounding but not in contact with the light or the lamp fixture.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   12:54:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

if none of your water is running it is most likely where the supply line from the meter comes out of the ground next to your house. get a clamp on spot light fixture and spot light bulb aim it at the pipe and turn it on. for best results enclose the light and pipe in something even if it's just a tent made from a blanket surrounding but not in contact with the light or the lamp fixture.

that's the situation. thanks.

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   13:00:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thermite would do it too. (Ducks.)

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-08   13:02:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Actually, here when our pipes freeze, we call the banker first and plumber second.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-01-08   13:05:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Actually, here when our pipes freeze, we call the banker first and plumber second.

I'll bite. Why?

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-08   13:20:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In winter time plumbers are our enemies.

They sit in their shop sticking pins in people to cause frozen pipes. When the phone rings, they KNOW they are KING and you are gonna pay. First question is always, the same, do you understand my fees????

No BS excuses will work, you are on social security, you are sick, no money in bank, all that is brushed aside, "do you understand my fees"?????

Then you start whining and sniveling, to no avail, you start pleading for him to show up. He baits you for another half hour before he grudgingly says he will put you on a list.

List you say, what damned list??????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-01-08   13:29:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

List you say, what damned list??????

I think I would be making a list of my own. And checking my safety twice.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-08   13:33:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My last foray a year ago was $1100.

I tried explaining I did not want to buy an interest in his business.

He just snickered.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-01-08   13:35:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My last foray a year ago was $1100.

good lord. we just called our plumber and he said he doesn't have any surefire way to thaw our pipes either. :/

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   13:44:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think the heat gun (which you can get at an Electronics Repair Supply) or the Gardener's Heat Cable are likely your best bets. Either that or time and crossed fingers that nothing has burst.

On the positive side my Ocikitten is snuggled up and warm against my shoulders - and not climbing all over me making it hard to type. ;-)

P.S. She is morphing from gray to kind of a cinnamon brown with darker brown/black spots. She's going to be a real "looker" once she finishes getting her adult coloration.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-08   13:50:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

need pics! our little one is getting more and more of the light beige that is his whole undercoat coloring showing.

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   14:11:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the pipes just unthawed and we got water running!!!!! shower time !!!

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   14:14:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the pipes just unthawed and we got water running!!!!! shower time !!!

What did the trick?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-08   20:09:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

we turned on the hot water spigots as you recommended. turned up the heat in the house. opened the cabinets. then Bill went out with the hairdryer and heated both hose bibs. then suddenly water started coming out of all the faucets.

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   21:21:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

then suddenly water started coming out of all the faucets.

Cool. I was hoping SOMETHING would work for you, and it looks like the combination of things actually did something useful... :)

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-08   21:37:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i got in the shower and said out loud, ah, glorious water. ;)

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   21:45:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i got in the shower and said out loud, ah, glorious water. ;)

it's a wonder humanity survived all those hundreds of thousands of years without hot showers.

if i happened to live long enough, i guess that's what i'd miss most about our glorious modern world... that's what i think about when i'm in the shower if there's nothing else to think about.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-08   22:09:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it would be a good thing to offer up a little prayer to the god of hot showers once in a while: "thank you, god, and please preserve us and our cleanliness. keep us clean the easy, pleasurable way."

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-08   22:31:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ha! Finally someone who understands plumbing.

Esso  posted on  2010-01-08   22:38:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

something's puzzling me, has puzzled me for a long time...

all those people in SE asia, who didnt have hot showers and shit in the ocean, and wore dazzling white shirts.

we have to assume they didnt have a god of hot showers, or a god of flush toilets, or a god of whirlpool washers and dryers, but they seemed to be clean, anyhow.

is that why we killed millions of them?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-08   23:04:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

in the Philippines every house I lived in had an elevated water tank of around 400 gallons and an inline water heater that plumbed between the shower water pipe an the shower head. as for cleaning the clothes we had Mr. Clean, Tide among other bars of soap used to do the wash by hand in a big pan. I would use a bar of Mr. Clean to wash out cuts the stuff was great for avoiding infection.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   0:53:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

we'd move off the carrier into the BOQ at subic, drink all night, wake up at 11, eat hot dogs around the pool until it was time to go into town.

there was a curfew but this middle-aged lady flagged me down after curfew, and i spent the rest of the night with her, despite the fact that i was broke.

in the morning, as i was going through the gate, i was fishing in my pockets for my ID and discovered the filipino equivalent of a $5 bill.

lord knows what that was about.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09   1:14:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

depending when that was a 5 peso note could have been worth close to 1 dollar U.S. or a thin dime. when I first got there in the early eighties the exchange rate was 7 pesos 50 centavos to the dollar when I left about ten years later the exchange rate was near 50 pesos to the dollar.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   1:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it could be i was so fucked up that i missed that five dollar bill.

given the attitude of the lady, though, and my habitual money tracking ability, it still seems likely to me that she stuffed a five-dollar bill into by shirt while i was asleep.

but maybe i'm just trying to

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09   1:25:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I sent out a kid with five bucks U.S. for some smoke, he came back with a half kilo of buds and 50 pesos change. that was early '82 and the exchange rate was still under 10 pesos to the dollar.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   1:28:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

happy days

and they wonder why kids go to war, huh?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09   1:30:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

even when they had the travel restrictions in the late eighties due to zoomies in Angeles City getting themselves shot I would go to places 'canos didn't go, learning Tagalog had its advantages. if one did not speak Tagalog if they went into a pinoy bar they didn't stay long. every one I went into for the first time they would show their displeasure of my presence by breaking ashtrays and glasses on the floor where I was sitting I'd just say "hoy pare bukit ganya ka?" after that it'd be like we'd been drink buddies for years.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   1:44:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"hoy pare bukit ganya ka?"

dont know what that means.

i was the typical military tourist, and languages didnt make much difference... context defined the natives, and if they were mildly goodlooking girls in a bar, that's all it took.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09   1:51:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

hey pal why do you have to be like that? is the basic translation. I didn't like paying tourist prices for beer so I was more likely to hang out at a sari-sari store and drink or the pinoy bars. the bars that catered to 'canos would charge from 10 to 20 pesos for a beer, I never paid more than 6 pesos a beer at the pinoy bars and as little as 3 pesos at the sari-sari stores. hinda ko kariput, ako yagit! I'm not a cheapskate, I'm poor!

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   2:05:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

decent

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09   2:06:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the really fun part was establishing what dialect the person you were talking with spoke, my wife is from Tabaco Albay so I speak what's called the Bicol dialect and the majority of persons I'd come in contact with spoke Papangan so I learned both but here in Texas we just speak Bicol to each other, it drives the mexicans nuts.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   2:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

she might be all that all i have left, and music is her name

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09   2:24:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

should you feel the urge check out the bumper music for the Agenda 21 talk show they play various cuts by Cornbread Red with Southern Cross being one of them.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   3:00:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the problem for me, in particular, seems to be, that i cant play worth a shit, my voice takes a lot of getting used to, and i'm running out of what it takes, assuming i ever had what it takes in the first place.

cornbread red has the tools... maybe i will listen longer... maybe they're saying stuff that registers in the long run.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09   3:11:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I have a face for radio and a voice for print.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   3:16:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#150. To: IRTorqued (#148)

I have a face for radio and a voice for print.

once the songshop thread gets cranked up, you wont need a face or a voice.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09 03:22:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

google shows four songs from cornbread red, and apparently you can play the songs, full length, once... then you have to dump your cookies, etc, or you'll only get 30 seconds.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09 03:33:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

all we need is another hugely talented bluegrass band that writes songs that dont have anything to do with shit.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-09 03:51:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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