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Title: Ok Who Is a Lawyer...I need to sue the government for saying I am a militia member and harrassment
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Published: Jan 8, 2010
Author: A K A
Post Date: 2010-01-08 18:55:17 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 62

Ok this has been going on for years. Someone in the city put my name in a database saying I am a militia member. Well I am not and never have been. This has caused me some problems. They also have it in their database that my wife is militia. Well I have seen the govt flyers that say militia is terrorists. So basically they are saying I am a terrorist. I am looking to sue the city for this defamation and slander. It has also caused the police to harrass me and not file charges in cases that I wished to persue. The prosecutor in a case I am involved in has even told my attorney that I am a militia member. I am serious about this. So if there are any attorneys out there. Please contact me privately and we can talk about this. Looking for suggestions.

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A-wop-bop-a-loo-lop a-lop bam boo

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-01-08   20:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Tell them to knock it off immediately or you'll kill yourself and both members of your forum.

Wait a second, Tull...

Stone, are there any large landmarks near where you live?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-01-08   20:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'll give you a link to a radio show that will start at 8:00 pm CST tonight call them and talk to Randy.

Some friend you are!

!=

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-01-08   20:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm not sure as to what you are getting at.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   21:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So basically they are saying I am a terrorist.

Duh! We've been warning about this happening. Now they can take you away with no rights. Ain't the Patriot Act great?

"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-08   21:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Shhhh! We were trying to tell everyone except Stone about this since he makes such a nice control subject.

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2010-01-08   21:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ahh..you know of Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens? they're very good friends of mine. are you in Texas?

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   22:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The funny thing about the company you keep, is that other people judge you by it.

I find it funny that you of all people would be considered part of any militia, because once the truth came out about you, I assure you that nobody would want to be associated with you.

If the government, and other local constabularies have you down as a militia member, well then obviously this is an error that could easily be investigated by requesting a copy of your FBI file through the freedom of information act.

Your local police do not deal with militia types, the ATF and FBI do.

Only a moron wouldn't know this.

I have found myself on more than a few lists to which I thought to myself, they have got to get better agents.

I am not part of any group, nor would I want to be. Groups are dangerous to the individual, as you say you're finding out. Joining anything, even something as innocuous as an internet political forum is grounds to have you labeled, and categorized.

I like to be complex just for this reason. I want an agent to read what I write, and be completely confused. I want them to spend time racking their brains trying to figure out whether or not I'm sane, or nuts, or dangerous.

I would suggest that you not only find yourself a good lawyer, contact the ACLU. I'm positive they will help you out, without fail. They get involved when people are wrongly accused of all kinds of things. Even on the behalf of pro-zionist Militia Members.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-01-08   22:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

LOL

"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-08   22:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

yes and yes to the north of Corpus in fact I'm listening to them right now.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   22:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A K A Stone, you can obtain access to such record of the database by making an official public records request in accordance with your state laws. Such request under your state Public Records Act statutes.

Put your request in writing and reference that statute and mail it by certified mail to the person who is custodian of public records. Tell them you demand within 30 days that they have within the reasonable amount of timeline to comply with your requests per that statute to supply you the actual record asserting such allegations. If they fail to comply, then you have grounds to sue them in their personal capacities (not official capacities) in state court per violations of that public records act along with invasion of privacy, as well as slander, defamation and false light, because their are using their badges of law (color of authority) to violate your persons in your right to be free from harassment and from invasion of privacy and unreasonable searches per the Fourth Amendment to the constitution.

Also this information may further help:

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/civilrights/color.htm

Civil Applications Title 42, U.S.C., Section 14141 makes it unlawful for state or local law enforcement agencies to allow officers to engage in a pattern or practice of conduct that deprives persons of rights protected by the Constitution or U.S. laws. This law, commonly referred to as the Police Misconduct Statute, gives the Department of Justice authority to seek civil remedies in cases where law enforcement agencies have policies or practices that foster a pattern of misconduct by employees. This action is directed against an agency, not against individual officers. The types of issues which may initiate a pattern and practice investigation include: • Lack of supervision/monitoring of officers' actions; • Lack of justification or reporting by officers on incidents involving the use of force; • Lack of, or improper training of, officers; and • Citizen complaint processes that treat complainants as adversaries.

purplerose  posted on  2010-01-08   23:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

cool. have you ever called in?

christine  posted on  2010-01-08   23:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

All that legal mumbo-jumbo is all good & fine I suppose, but can't you just give him the secret phone number that people call and whine to then they send you a million dollars?

Esso  posted on  2010-01-08   23:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

no not yet, most times I end up listening to the archived shows on my MP3 player, Rule of law and Agenda 21 are my two favorites and Gary Johnson does killer interviews on his Live and let live show. and any way john e law seems to steer clear of me.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   23:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What you may refer to as legal mumbo jumbo is to somebody else's right to contront those who are assassinating their character behind closed doors and probably concocting up secret files. Such techniques like this actually exist in public universities.

purplerose  posted on  2010-01-08   23:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Someone in the city put my name in a database saying I am a militia member.

OOPPSS! They placed you in the wrong category: the "Militia" ... they meant: "Mossad."

Well, both start with "M" ... so close, 'eh?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.�

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-08   23:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

to save time go after the respondent superior as they are accountable for the actions of their underlings. see also 42 U.S.C. § 1983.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-08   23:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Close enough for government work.

Esso  posted on  2010-01-08   23:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am well familar with 42 USC Section 1983,1984, 1985 and 1986 claims. For brevity you never invoke respondent superior when you are making a 42 USC claim unless suing public servants in their official capacities to claim permanent injunctive relief. The Respondent Superior clause is nothing more than a strategy attempt for the opposing counsel to motion to dismiss (or motion to demurrer) of a legitimate complaint based on their defense that their clients were just doing their jobs under cloak of authority. You do not invoke respondent superior when suing public servants in their individual capacities. Never. They not only need to be held personally accountable but need to get their own attorneys instead of using state funded lawyers at taxpayer expense to obvuscate a legitimate lawsuit and thwart the law.

purplerose  posted on  2010-01-09   0:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Someone in the city put my name in a database saying I am a militia member.

Really? To what database ado you refere?

I'm not aware of a "militia" database. Please refer me to that database.

To others that have taken the "bait:" Shame on you.

And you call me paranoid.

rack42  posted on  2010-01-09   0:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm not aware of a "militia" database. Please refer me to that database.

There is such a database. It is referred to as secret files or documents that government servants create and then store in filed compartments and disseminate to third parties ( law enforcement, employers, etc.,) concerning an individual, for reasons such as retaliation or blackmail. Such practice does exist as a means to make that individual a non-person. It is a soviet style tactic that was used on citizens who protested against their government.

purplerose  posted on  2010-01-09   0:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That's news to me.

Thanks for the info.

One more thing for me to track.

jeez.

rack42  posted on  2010-01-09   0:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Change your name through legal means then declare under under your old name your death via the www.

You'll virtualy dissapear.

rack42  posted on  2010-01-09   0:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you are most correct.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   0:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You don't identify your city or the database. Who runs this database? Have you contacted the owner/administrator of this database?

Shoonra  posted on  2010-01-09   1:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He can't.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.�

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-09   1:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

not without his family militia membership card anyway.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   1:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Exactly. AKA intentionally spammed 4um with this BS because "his" bought and paid-for web-site is boring. I never look at it. Why? I don't like AKA's unobjective demeanor.

I would rather chit-chat with Jethro Tull, which is one of the most difficult things in my life. Then again, I am blessed.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.�

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-09   1:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

lol he was just trying to give the short bussers an echo chamber to mingle in without having to answer any tough questions while sally was serverless.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   4:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Are you serious? A name change, and then declare you are dead via the web?

Brilliant strategy.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2010-01-09   4:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The police department. Everytime I get pulled over for speeding or whatever. It is like so your in the militia huh.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-09   8:20:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buckeroo. It is good to know that when the chips are down. You side with the government. Your just hot air. A story teller.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-09   8:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

File a Freedom Of Information request for your records in this supposed database. Unless you are a currently targeted terrorist suspect or a targeted member of organized crime, they have to release the records.

I suspect this is all in your head or you have other motives.

I also think any lawyers on 4um are smart enough to know better than to identify themselves to someone like you for obvious reasons.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-01-09   8:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hi Dragmire,

Thank you for your most insightful commentary.

Please feel free to give yourself a cookie (pat on the head or scratch behind the ear..lol).

Yours in Observing Brevity as the Essence of Humor,

P.H.

In effect, it’s (The Holacaust Inc.) become like a grotesque doll wielded by witch doctors, used to keep individuals from asking too many questions, from thinking for themselves and stepping out of line.

PatrickHenry  posted on  2010-01-09   10:00:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In my state, every able bodied man between the 18 & 45 are considered "part of the militia".

isn't this supposedly the case via the Bill of Rights/2nd A in all 50 states? are you in California?

also, that's an interesting solution dropping a middle name/initial. i'd not heard that before.

christine  posted on  2010-01-09   11:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

in part

The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards for the organization of the Militia.

An ACT more effectually to provide for the National Defence, by establishing an Uniform Militia throughout the United States.

I. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia, by the Captain or Commanding Officer of the company, within whose bounds such citizen shall reside, and that within twelve months after the passing of this Act. And it shall at all time hereafter be the duty of every such Captain or Commanding Officer of a company, to enroll every such citizen as aforesaid, and also those who shall, from time to time, arrive at the age of 18 years, or being at the age of 18 years, and under the age of 45 years (except as before excepted) shall come to reside within his bounds; and shall without delay notify such citizen of the said enrollment, by the proper non-commissioned Officer of the company, by whom such notice may be proved. That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack. That the commissioned Officers shall severally be armed with a sword or hanger, and espontoon; and that from and after five years from the passing of this Act, all muskets from arming the militia as is herein required, shall be of bores sufficient for balls of the eighteenth part of a pound; and every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with the arms, ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid, shall hold the same exempted from all suits, distresses, executions or sales, for debt or for the payment of taxes.

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   13:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

uh huh. what gd'd piece of paper?

christine  posted on  2010-01-09   14:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

who is whorge baalzabush?

IRTorqued  posted on  2010-01-09   15:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not going to either. It isn't important for anyone to know this.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-09   16:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

in this supposed database

lol....You should stop listening to sukeroo.

www.libertysflame.com

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-01-09   16:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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