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Title: Ok Who Is a Lawyer...I need to sue the government for saying I am a militia member and harrassment
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Published: Jan 8, 2010
Author: A K A
Post Date: 2010-01-08 18:55:17 by A K A Stone
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Ok this has been going on for years. Someone in the city put my name in a database saying I am a militia member. Well I am not and never have been. This has caused me some problems. They also have it in their database that my wife is militia. Well I have seen the govt flyers that say militia is terrorists. So basically they are saying I am a terrorist. I am looking to sue the city for this defamation and slander. It has also caused the police to harrass me and not file charges in cases that I wished to persue. The prosecutor in a case I am involved in has even told my attorney that I am a militia member. I am serious about this. So if there are any attorneys out there. Please contact me privately and we can talk about this. Looking for suggestions.
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#15. To: IRTorqued (#2)
ahh..you know of Randy Kelton and Deborah Stevens? they're very good friends of mine. are you in Texas?
The funny thing about the company you keep, is that other people judge you by it. I find it funny that you of all people would be considered part of any militia, because once the truth came out about you, I assure you that nobody would want to be associated with you. If the government, and other local constabularies have you down as a militia member, well then obviously this is an error that could easily be investigated by requesting a copy of your FBI file through the freedom of information act. Your local police do not deal with militia types, the ATF and FBI do. Only a moron wouldn't know this. I have found myself on more than a few lists to which I thought to myself, they have got to get better agents. I am not part of any group, nor would I want to be. Groups are dangerous to the individual, as you say you're finding out. Joining anything, even something as innocuous as an internet political forum is grounds to have you labeled, and categorized. I like to be complex just for this reason. I want an agent to read what I write, and be completely confused. I want them to spend time racking their brains trying to figure out whether or not I'm sane, or nuts, or dangerous. I would suggest that you not only find yourself a good lawyer, contact the ACLU. I'm positive they will help you out, without fail. They get involved when people are wrongly accused of all kinds of things. Even on the behalf of pro-zionist Militia Members.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
LOL
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
yes and yes to the north of Corpus in fact I'm listening to them right now.
A K A Stone, you can obtain access to such record of the database by making an official public records request in accordance with your state laws. Such request under your state Public Records Act statutes. Put your request in writing and reference that statute and mail it by certified mail to the person who is custodian of public records. Tell them you demand within 30 days that they have within the reasonable amount of timeline to comply with your requests per that statute to supply you the actual record asserting such allegations. If they fail to comply, then you have grounds to sue them in their personal capacities (not official capacities) in state court per violations of that public records act along with invasion of privacy, as well as slander, defamation and false light, because their are using their badges of law (color of authority) to violate your persons in your right to be free from harassment and from invasion of privacy and unreasonable searches per the Fourth Amendment to the constitution. Also this information may further help: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/civilrights/color.htm Civil Applications Title 42, U.S.C., Section 14141 makes it unlawful for state or local law enforcement agencies to allow officers to engage in a pattern or practice of conduct that deprives persons of rights protected by the Constitution or U.S. laws. This law, commonly referred to as the Police Misconduct Statute, gives the Department of Justice authority to seek civil remedies in cases where law enforcement agencies have policies or practices that foster a pattern of misconduct by employees. This action is directed against an agency, not against individual officers. The types of issues which may initiate a pattern and practice investigation include: • Lack of supervision/monitoring of officers' actions; • Lack of justification or reporting by officers on incidents involving the use of force; • Lack of, or improper training of, officers; and • Citizen complaint processes that treat complainants as adversaries.
cool. have you ever called in?
All that legal mumbo-jumbo is all good & fine I suppose, but can't you just give him the secret phone number that people call and whine to then they send you a million dollars?
no not yet, most times I end up listening to the archived shows on my MP3 player, Rule of law and Agenda 21 are my two favorites and Gary Johnson does killer interviews on his Live and let live show. and any way john e law seems to steer clear of me.
What you may refer to as legal mumbo jumbo is to somebody else's right to contront those who are assassinating their character behind closed doors and probably concocting up secret files. Such techniques like this actually exist in public universities.
OOPPSS! They placed you in the wrong category: the "Militia" ... they meant: "Mossad." Well, both start with "M" ... so close, 'eh?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
to save time go after the respondent superior as they are accountable for the actions of their underlings. see also 42 U.S.C. § 1983.
Close enough for government work.
I am well familar with 42 USC Section 1983,1984, 1985 and 1986 claims. For brevity you never invoke respondent superior when you are making a 42 USC claim unless suing public servants in their official capacities to claim permanent injunctive relief. The Respondent Superior clause is nothing more than a strategy attempt for the opposing counsel to motion to dismiss (or motion to demurrer) of a legitimate complaint based on their defense that their clients were just doing their jobs under cloak of authority. You do not invoke respondent superior when suing public servants in their individual capacities. Never. They not only need to be held personally accountable but need to get their own attorneys instead of using state funded lawyers at taxpayer expense to obvuscate a legitimate lawsuit and thwart the law.
Really? To what database ado you refere? I'm not aware of a "militia" database. Please refer me to that database. To others that have taken the "bait:" Shame on you. And you call me paranoid.
There is such a database. It is referred to as secret files or documents that government servants create and then store in filed compartments and disseminate to third parties ( law enforcement, employers, etc.,) concerning an individual, for reasons such as retaliation or blackmail. Such practice does exist as a means to make that individual a non-person. It is a soviet style tactic that was used on citizens who protested against their government.
That's news to me. Thanks for the info. One more thing for me to track. jeez.
Change your name through legal means then declare under under your old name your death via the www. You'll virtualy dissapear.
you are most correct.
You don't identify your city or the database. Who runs this database? Have you contacted the owner/administrator of this database?
He can't.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
not without his family militia membership card anyway.
Exactly. AKA intentionally spammed 4um with this BS because "his" bought and paid-for web-site is boring. I never look at it. Why? I don't like AKA's unobjective demeanor. I would rather chit-chat with Jethro Tull, which is one of the most difficult things in my life. Then again, I am blessed.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
lol he was just trying to give the short bussers an echo chamber to mingle in without having to answer any tough questions while sally was serverless.
Are you serious? A name change, and then declare you are dead via the web? Brilliant strategy.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
The police department. Everytime I get pulled over for speeding or whatever. It is like so your in the militia huh.
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Buckeroo. It is good to know that when the chips are down. You side with the government. Your just hot air. A story teller.
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File a Freedom Of Information request for your records in this supposed database. Unless you are a currently targeted terrorist suspect or a targeted member of organized crime, they have to release the records. I suspect this is all in your head or you have other motives. I also think any lawyers on 4um are smart enough to know better than to identify themselves to someone like you for obvious reasons.
Hi Dragmire, Thank you for your most insightful commentary. Please feel free to give yourself a cookie (pat on the head or scratch behind the ear..lol). Yours in Observing Brevity as the Essence of Humor, P.H.
In effect, it’s (The Holacaust Inc.) become like a grotesque doll wielded by witch doctors, used to keep individuals from asking too many questions, from thinking for themselves and stepping out of line.
isn't this supposedly the case via the Bill of Rights/2nd A in all 50 states? are you in California? also, that's an interesting solution dropping a middle name/initial. i'd not heard that before.
uh huh. what gd'd piece of paper?
who is whorge baalzabush?
Not going to either. It isn't important for anyone to know this.
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lol....You should stop listening to sukeroo.
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Do you have a Ron Paul bumper sticker or GOA/NRA stuff on your vehicle? Vanity plate? Check the letter combinations for a militia-type connection. Does your plate have the number 83 or 88 in it?
There is an interesting thread on LP about this very thread. I think the poster comment makes an interesting point.
I nominate Obama for the Chernobyl Prize.
#15. To: Murron, WhiteSands, Mel_Living (#14) You make a good point, I'm sure they have 'lists' for just about any of us who dare speak ill of their treason and corruption. I think Missouri is one state that profiles "militia Members" and "certain political activists." There are others, I feel sure. I was also read about the one on one forum that eluded to his name being on some type of "Federal" list, but he could never find out just which and where in order to get it taken off. It caused him all kinds of personal problems with credit reference, banks and etc. WhiteSands: I see no problem with this thread being here, if for no other reason it will make those who ARE NOT aware that this CAN and PROBABLY WILL happen to them depending on what groups they join, where they post, with whom who participate and etc. Actions Have Consequences! I wonder if Gatlin uses salt as he's licking the arse of government. He'll be standing along side of Whitesands, yukon and Mad Dog, among others at LP, waving their Chinese made American flag as the troops march through their towns when the government decides to declare martial law. I bet he'll even have his own list of people to turn in.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Funny that he would delete a thread about this on his own website, but yet post it here isn't it? Funnier still that this topic is of interest to the clowns over on LP. A game is being played.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
That's a hell of a way to treat someone who was agreeing with you. Would bttt have made more sense?
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. isn't this supposedly the case via the Bill of Rights/2nd A in all 50 states? are you in California? also, that's an interesting solution dropping a middle name/initial. i'd not heard that before. Hi Christine, Good question in Re the Bill of Rights as the instant matter applies to states. To intelligently address this subject it must be understood that at least two kinds of states exist in America. The first of course in the Sovereign variety (10th Amendment) we are all lead to believe remain viable or functioning. This of course is a well documented fiction as a Sovereign state's inherent authority (aka Police Powers) are derived from it's Citizens consent(Citizens of a State). Today, very few Citizens of a State exist in the body politic of America and may not exercise any "political rights" such as voting (see voter registration card http://www.elections.il.gov/Downloads/VotingInformation/PDF/R-19.pdf). Only those who have Sworn Under The Penalty of Perjury to be a 14th Amendment citizen (U.S. citizen) may exercize the political right of voting: Voter Affidavit – Read all statements and sign within the box to the right. I swear or affirm that h23; I am a citizen of the United States The information I have provided is true to the best of my knowledge under penalty of perjury. If I have provided false information, then I may be fined, imprisoned, or if I am not a U.S. citizen, deported from or refused entry into the United States. The question begs to be addressed, if my State is "not Soverign", where do they (Federally Elected Officials acting as State Officials) derive any authority to act or legislate what is believed to be law? Absent Soverign Authority (police powers) we are left only with assent or contractual agreements for authority to act or otherwise enforce contracts(all under commercial or U.S. statutory law). When & how do most Americans provide assent (not disagreeing in law by way of Notice is considered agreement) or positive contractual agreement? Most do so when their parents register them for Social Security. Again, it may be helpful to review the SS5 or Social Security application (http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ss-5.pdf). At question #5 we find the same "political orientation question": Are you a U.S. citizen? And finally to answer your question regarding the Bill of Rights and the "modern" unincorporated States. Fourteenth Amendment citizens were not a part of that contract and operate "outside" the original organic Constitution of 1789. Their so-called rights are "relative to the whim of Congress/Judges" (Incorporated rather than unalienable) and may be found in Title 42 of the USC (up thread correctly identifies Title 42 for remedies of rights violations). Contrasted with a Citizen of a State, his/her rights "pre-exist" state constitutions or the Constitution of 1789 for that matter as these rights are God given/unalienable (may not be taken absent due process). Hope this helps bring some clarity to the matter. Warm Regards, P.H.
In effect, it’s (The Holacaust Inc.) become like a grotesque doll wielded by witch doctors, used to keep individuals from asking too many questions, from thinking for themselves and stepping out of line.
Please accept my apologies as I was unnecessarily rash in my response. I will not make this same mistake again. Warm Regards, Patrick
In effect, it’s (The Holacaust Inc.) become like a grotesque doll wielded by witch doctors, used to keep individuals from asking too many questions, from thinking for themselves and stepping out of line.
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#18. To: christine (#15)
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Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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#22. To: christine (#20)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#23. To: Esso (#21)
#24. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Someone in the city put my name in a database saying I am a militia member.
#25. To: purplerose (#19)
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The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
#26. To: buckeroo (#24)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#27. To: IRTorqued (#25)
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#28. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Someone in the city put my name in a database saying I am a militia member.
#29. To: rack42 (#28)
I'm not aware of a "militia" database. Please refer me to that database.
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#32. To: purplerose (#27)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
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#35. To: buckeroo (#34)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
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The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
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#43. To: PatrickHenry (#7)
In my state, every able bodied man between the 18 & 45 are considered "part of the militia".
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The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
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#46. To: christine (#45)
The best gun to have, is the gun you have, when you need a gun.
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#48. To: TooConservative (#41)
in this supposed database
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#51. To: PnbC, all (#50)
There is an interesting thread on LP about this very thread. I think the poster comment makes an interesting point.
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#54. To: christine (#43)
n my state, every able bodied man between the 18 & 45 are considered "part of the militia".
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