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Title: Airplane Abducted By UFO: Caught On Tape
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9cZ8F1KTTM
Published: Aug 11, 2009
Author: jmart714
Post Date: 2010-01-14 20:29:53 by FormerLurker
Keywords: UFO, Abduction
Views: 721
Comments: 59
Author's Description of Video: The airplane was approaching Davis Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson Arizona at approximately 4:15PM MST on August 8th, 2009. We first witnessed the object hovering in a locked position, southwest of the base. You can hear my neighbors if you turn the volume up. We thought it was a balloon, until it dropped in elevation a few thousand feet in less then a second. At that point I ran inside and grabbed my digital camera and rushed outside in time to catch the object approaching the airplane from behind. Unfortunately the microphone barely works on the camera, from being dropped so many times, so you can't hear much. But at least there is a little. The object made no sound, completely silent. There was an attempt to take the video to the media, unfortunately, every affiliate rejected the video due to lack of evidence. There was no report in the city of a missing airplane, nor did the Air Force Base report anything missing. Many of the news affiliates did confirm that they had received calls on August 8th from various sources, claiming they had seen a UFO. They said that they receive calls on a regular basis dealing with UFOs all the time, as well as many hoax videos, and there was no reason to believe my video was anything different. They refused to believe that the Air Force base would withhold information about a missing airplane.
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#1. To: FormerLurker (#0)
Obviously swamp gas.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Yeah, or a failed Russian missile...
Complete FAKE. Saw the original video months ago, and it was produced in Adobe After Effects. WHY, is it that people immediately assume it's real if it's on fricking youtube? Before you go asking how I know, it's because I and a few others were asked to analyze it.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Oh, and the other REALLY big tell, is that the UFO and "Abducted Plane" move up, AFTER the camera starts to pan up after it. This video, like many others is why hoaxers get over.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Before you go asking how I know, it's because I and a few others were asked to analyze it. Then if you analyzed it, you should be able to give us your technical analysis, right?
Bullshit. Watch again. The camera doesn't pan up until the object and the airplane have already shot upwards out of frame.
Why are you making this shit up Tommy? EVERYONE can see that didn't happen.
You were abducted, correct? And you agree on a consistent basis with the extra-terrestrials while batting your cheerier eyes??
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Wonder if the crew ever made it back....
There is a sucker born every minute. Every wonder why aliens don't come for you Lurker? lol
God is always good!
Keep wondering, they aren't coming for you.
God is always good!
No retard, you need to take a look at it. When the supposed abduction takes place, the camera pans up before the actual ship goes up. The untrained retarded eye might miss it, but those of us who actually KNOW what to look for don't. No camera man should be able to predict where an object that is flying AWAY from him supposedly should be going, especially if it was shot in the backyard by some idiot. I assure you, that this video was made with After Effects, as the After Effects CODEX is embedded through out the video.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Oh, and the biggest tell of all, is that the objects pass through the wires, not behind them. Ghost imaging and errant pixelization from a composited image are ALSO the big tell. Post your stupefyingly retarded videos of UFO's on a site where there isn't someone who actually knows special effects and how they work.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
If you're dumb enough to believe that the video is legit, that's your problem. When one object is rendered at 24 frames a second, and the other is rendered at 30 frames a second, there's a problem. Of course, you, and other chumps wouldn't know the difference.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
snicker
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Uh huh..
No retard, you need to take a look at it. Uh, no dimwit. YOU need to take a look at it. The only time the "camera pans up" is AFTER the aircraft and "object" shoot upwards out of the frame. The untrained retarded eye might miss it, but those of us who actually KNOW what to look for don't. Looks like the untrained retarded eye sees things that aren't there and tries to convince people they know what they're talking about. Maybe if you stomp your feet hard and fast enough, and smack your monitor around a bit, you can be more convincing... I assure you, that this video was made with After Effects, as the After Effects CODEX is embedded through out the video. Now I KNOW you are full of shit. Expert my ass. I bet you don't even own a camcorder, that's why you don't know shit about how it works or how to use the video it records.
Do provide the video data which indicates that. BTW, how do you propose this was done? Because you see, when you import 24 frames per second progressive scan, it's usually enveloped in 60 frame per second interlaced. Thus, you need something like After Effects to strip the 24 FPS out of the 60 FPS envelope. THEN, if you REALLY wanted to try to overlay that 24 FPS video with a video shot at 30 FPS progressive, then you'd have to convert that 30 FPS to 24 FPS, else the frames would jitter and go out of sync. And IF you converted that 30 FPS to 24 FPS (not that easy a task actually), and to somehow produce a vid that showed two objects in flight as in the video we are discussing, and for one to converge upon the other and zoom away, well, that's more or less something a Hollywood studio might be able to pull off, but not the average do it yourself videographer. BUT, there would be NO indication of a disparity in video frame rates if the above process were followed, and since there are no jittery or out of sync frames, you are full of shit.
Tommy won't revisit your arguments. As I come to think about the same he won't revisit any of mine either.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
And BTW Tommy, if someone was trying to hoax a video, they certainly wouldn't film their "hoax" overlay video at a different frame rate than the original. One other glaring problem with your claims. Besides there not being such a thing as an "After Effects codec", YouTube recompresses the video and audio to Adobe Flash, which is a container file format. You'd need to uncompress the YouTube video in order to get to the original codec, and the only codecs available are the standard video and audio codecs listed under the technical data you can find on Flash Video. You would be hard pressed to explain to me the decompression process I'd bet.
Tommy is blowing smoke out of his ass here. For what reason I'm not sure, but I AM sure he has no idea of what he's talking about.
Oh, and you're full of shit about that as well. Besides the fact you're outright wrong, the objects do NOT pass "through" the wires, they pass BEHIND them, have you ever heard of COMPRESSION ARTIFACTS? The pixellation is a function of the compression utilized not just by the initial compression to MP4 or whatever other codec the guy used, but the YouTube compression as well. Just as in images, when you compress a raw bitmap image to JPG, artifacts are introduced, the severity of which depends on the image quality setting selected at compression. There is no quality setting when you upload to YouTube, it just does whatever compression is set by default, thus there will always be some loss and possible artifacts, depending on the original resolution and video size. There are other video hosting sites which do NOT do such heavy compression, which give MUCH better video quality. But they require more storage space for the files for such quality, and YouTube is just a place for the average person to upload whatever they want, so they need to minimize the file size otherwise they'd need more storage than economically feasable.
Have you ever decided to be kind to animals? It is now the opportunity of a lifetime.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
I really get a hair up my ass when a fool tries to call me a retard.
You are not alone. And through the years that I have known you .... you are a consistent poster with awesome capability to communicate and exchange ideas and concepts. And I want to say, thank God you stand up and make meaningful references to make us all think.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Thanks for the kind words buck, I truly appreciate that.
I know what I'm talking about. PERIOD. If you can get one of the high res copies of this video, I think you can get it at ATS. When this video came out I was asked to analyze it by a third party. You're mad because you're one of those brain dead true believer types. Nearly every camcorder on EARTH records at 24 frames per second. Most HD cameras record at 24 to 32 frames per second. When you take a video at 24 frames per second, then add secondary objects like this video has there's a codec created in file that tells you that the footage has been edited. The mathematics and the smoothness of the SECOND object in the frame should tell you that it was added in, not to mention its opacity compared to the first object. Of course then there's the winking out which just so happen to be an After Effects Add On. Why don't you buy The Adobe Creative Suite like I did. That way you could be making your own Fraudulent Vids, instead of posting other people's.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Wrong. MOST camcorders record at 60i, newer and more expensive HD cameras are CAPABLE of recording at 24p, and some can record at 30p as well. But they ALL record at 60i, as that is the default frame rate and the ONLY frame rate the older cameras can record at. There is NO 32 FPS video rate, you are getting increasingly ridiculous here.
It's the Internet, relax.
God is always good!
The guy may have used Sony Vegas, Adobe After Effects, or a host of other video editing software to add the digitally zoomed footage. BIG DEAL. YOU on the other hand have NO CLUE as to what he used, since there IS NO ADOBE CODEC as you claim. Tell me Tommy, how did you convert the Flash FLV format to the original codec, and what IS the original codec. I KNOW it's not Adobe After Effect CODEX, as there IS NO SUCH THING.
You're mad because you're a determined liar and I don't believe you, and I KNOW you are lying.
Okay, believe what you like. Idiot.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Have you ever taken the time to read REAL eyewitness reports, such as those mentioned in Project Bluebook? The sliding motion and abrupt movements are HIGHLY TYPICAL, and that is what makes this even MORE believable. I find no problem with the video at all, and you are SERIOUSLY making shit up and outright lying, for whatever purpose.
Don't take everything so seriously. You don't know this video is legit, so why are you defending it so much? You have no personal stake in it, why is it important to you? The media thought nothing of it for a reason. Either they are in on the cover up of UFOs, or they know it isn't legit. Have you seen Chris Angel walk on water? Do you believe that is legit too?
God is always good!
Do you work for the government Tommy? Is that why you took a fit when some good people from LP came over to 4um a year or so ago, and you decided to stomp your feet, leave 4um, and go lick Goldi's ass for the entire time you were there?
I know Tommy is lying, and is trying to pass off his lies as if they were fact.
Do you think the media is correct about 9/11? Do you see them do investigative reports, or give out facts that the government doesn't want people to know?
Do you own Adobe After Effects? Do you own the Adobe Creative Suite? Have you ever bought any of the add-ons or created special effects? Is your job in the special effects industry? If not, then I would suggest you get acquainted with the various products and software used to create videos just like this one. If you look at plane, it has artifacts on it. The second object does not. The reason why, is because when you film something in real life, there's discrepancies in the lighting of that object that the CCD's inside the camera may or may not be able to register. When you CREATE an object and add it to the footage, there are no artifacts, unless you create them, or have filter software that puts them in for you. The movement of the second object has a motion filter used on it. It's why the movement in every frame is consistent, while the movement of the first object is not. Like I said before, unless you're stepped in this stuff, you won't see it. I myself could duplicate this with minimal effort. In fact, I could actually do a BETTER job making a fake than this.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Hi Tommy - What does your byline actually mean?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
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#2. To: tom007 (#1)
Obviously swamp gas.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#3. To: FormerLurker (#0)
#4. To: FormerLurker (#0)
(Edited)
#5. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)
Complete FAKE.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#6. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#4)
Oh, and the other REALLY big tell, is that the UFO and "Abducted Plane" move up, AFTER the camera starts to pan up after it
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#7. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#4)
Oh, and the other REALLY big tell, is that the UFO and "Abducted Plane" move up, AFTER the camera starts to pan up after it.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#8. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#4)
Oh, and the other REALLY big tell, is that the UFO and "Abducted Plane" move up, AFTER the camera starts to pan up after it.
#9. To: buckeroo, tom007 (#8)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#10. To: FormerLurker (#0)
#11. To: FormerLurker (#9)
Wonder if the crew ever made it back....
#12. To: FormerLurker (#6)
#13. To: All (#12)
#14. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#13)
Ghost imaging and errant pixelization from a composited image are ALSO the big tell.
#15. To: buckeroo (#14)
#16. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#15)
Of course, you, and other chumps wouldn't know the difference.
#17. To: RickyJ (#10)
There is a sucker born every minute.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#18. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#12)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#19. To: TommyTheMadArtist, buckeroo (#15)
(Edited)
When one object is rendered at 24 frames a second, and the other is rendered at 30 frames a second, there's a problem.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#20. To: FormerLurker, TommyTheMadArtist (#19)
#21. To: TommyTheMadArtist, buckeroo, ALL (#15)
(Edited)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#22. To: buckeroo (#20)
Tommy won't revisit your arguments. As I come to think about the same he won't revisit any of mine either.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#23. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#13)
(Edited)
Oh, and the biggest tell of all, is that the objects pass through the wires, not behind them. Ghost imaging and errant pixelization from a composited image are ALSO the big tell.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#24. To: FormerLurker (#23)
#25. To: buckeroo (#24)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#26. To: FormerLurker (#25)
#27. To: buckeroo (#26)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#28. To: FormerLurker (#23)
#29. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#28)
Nearly every camcorder on EARTH records at 24 frames per second. Most HD cameras record at 24 to 32 frames per second.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#30. To: FormerLurker (#25)
I really get a hair up my ass when a fool tries to call me a retard.
#31. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#28)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#32. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#28)
You're mad because you're one of those brain dead true believer types.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#33. To: FormerLurker (#32)
#34. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#28)
The mathematics and the smoothness of the SECOND object in the frame should tell you that it was added in, not to mention its opacity compared to the first object
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#35. To: FormerLurker (#32)
#36. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#33)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#37. To: RickyJ (#35)
You don't know this video is legit, so why are you defending it so much? You have no personal stake in it, why is it important to you?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#38. To: RickyJ (#35)
The media thought nothing of it for a reason.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#39. To: FormerLurker (#34)
#40. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#39)
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
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