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Title: Dutch panel finds Iraq war had no legal mandate
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8453305.stm
Published: Jan 12, 2010
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2010-01-15 03:03:16 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 1844
Comments: 132

A Netherlands legal panel has concluded the West's military action against Iraq had no sound mandate in international law and that Dutch political support for the war was to a considerable extent led by public and other information from the US and UK. The inquiry, which included a former Supreme Court judge, found the war was not justified by a UN resolution.

Tatarewicz: Would be interesting to know if the 550-page report identified the Israel agents in the US administration who were primarily responsible for instigating the Iraq war.

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#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0) (Edited)

Dutch panel finds Iraq war had no legal mandate

Saddam violated surrender agreements made at the end of the Persian Gulf War and had his military fire ground to air missiles at U.S. military jets several times between then and the Iraq War.

This is not even counting Saddam's crimes against humanity; mass-murders, mass-rapes, torture prisons and use of chemical weapons against civilians. Nor mentioning the various Weapons Inspection debacles.

The Dutch just were not looking hard enough.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-15   4:52:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This is not even counting Saddam's crimes against humanity

Then maybe the US should stop backing criminals. Scumbags like Saddam wouldn't make it past used car salesman if not for the help of "American foreign policy".

bluegrass  posted on  2010-01-18   9:29:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Then maybe the US should stop backing criminals. Scumbags like Saddam wouldn't make it past used car salesman if not for the help of "American foreign policy".

Not to justify it, but most of the nations of the world got their hands dirty in someway during the Cold War. So, don't you dare pretend that the U.S. was the only nation, while the rest of the world were full of saints.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-18   9:53:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Not to justify it, but most of the nations of the world got their hands dirty in someway during the Cold War.

Perhaps. That's no excuse for us to keep engaging in the same crap that didn't work even back then.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-01-18   10:40:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Not to justify it, but most of the nations of the world got their hands dirty in someway during the Cold War.

Perhaps. That's no excuse for us to keep engaging in the same crap that didn't work even back then.

We got into a lot of thuggish habits in the Cold War fighting those thugs, the communists.

randge  posted on  2010-01-18   11:01:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Odd how we "discovered" the threat of those evil Muslims in Asia just about the time that the evil Commies in Asia disappeared.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-01-18   11:08:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Odd how we "discovered" the threat of those evil Muslims in Asia just about the time that the evil Commies in Asia disappeared.

That's because the commies and the muslims were busy killing each before hand.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-18   11:48:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That's because the commies and the muslims were busy killing each before hand.

I find it interesting that out one side of your mouth you bitch about big government and the welfare state while out the other are an apologist for big government and the warfare state. What's even more interesting is that you do not see the contradictions.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-01-18   12:01:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

They honestly believe that it a National Defense war; most of them generally believe 911 The Official Government Story® and are completely detached from what the Constitution actually limits us to or permits...

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-18   12:04:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

They honestly believe that it a National Defense war; most of them generally believe 911 The Official Government Story® and are completely detached from what the Constitution actually limits us to or permits...

Then they need to quit bitching about big government. Big government and a loss of liberties walks hand-in-hand with the warfare state. In a warfare state, EVERYONE is an enemy to the state until proven otherwise. There must be a surveillance society and police state in order to protect the government from the "enemy" and that surveillance society and police state takes money to run it, therefore taxes have to be high.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-01-18   12:10:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

yes, how convenient it is to suffer from this confliction and not even realize it...

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-18   12:12:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

yes, how convenient it is to suffer from this confliction and not even realize it...

I believe psychologists call it cognitive dissonance, which means to hold two contradictory ideas simultaneously.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-01-18   12:16:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I believe psychologists call it cognitive dissonance, which means to hold two contradictory ideas simultaneously.

A lot of people suffer from "cognitive dissonance". They believe that preaching anti-U.S. views will somehow "help" the U.S.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-18   20:36:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

They believe that preaching anti-U.S. views will somehow "help" the U.S.

No one on this site preaches against the U.S. The people on this site preach against the federal government. It is no ones fault but your own that your are too sycophantic to understand the difference.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-01-18   22:01:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No one on this site preaches against the U.S.

*Falls over laughing*

I just cannot help laughing.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-18   23:49:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

*Falls over laughing*

I just cannot help laughing.

You are a government apologist and sycophant. You equate the good, hardworking people of the United States with the corrupt and immoral government of the United States. You are unable to fathom that they are not the same thing. Of course you can't help but laugh. You are as corrupt and as immoral as the government you proselytize for.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-01-19   0:10:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

1. You are a government apologist and sycophant.

2. You equate the good, hardworking people of the United States with the corrupt and immoral government of the United States.

3. You are unable to fathom that they are not the same thing

4. Of course you can't help but laugh. You are as corrupt and as immoral as the government you proselytize for.

1. That is name calling on your part.

2. You have me confused with those promoting anti-U.S. propaganda.

3. That is a false assumption on your part.

4. I don't support the government. Though, at the same time I recognize that the rest of the world blames the U.S. people for that actions of the foreign elitists' puppets in the U.S. government.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   1:36:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#108. To: PaulCJ (#79)

1. That is name calling on your part.

I disagree. Those are political adjectives. An apologist is a person who makes a defense in speech or writing of a belief, idea, etc. A sycophant is a person that fawns over another person or institution. If I were name calling then I would call you a piece of shit, or something along that line.

2. You have me confused with those promoting anti-U.S. propaganda.

Your constant war mongering and support of the foreign misadventures of the two party fraud IS promoting anti-U.S. propaganda. Both parties are using the Iraq, Afghanistan and the WOT in general for crass political purposes that is not in the best interests of this country and in fact hurt it. Their misadventures have nothing to do with protecting this nation. One only has to look at the continued lack of border controls and the police state framework the two party fraud has been continuously building to see that their intentions are nefarious. See Obama's new executive order for the Governor's board as just one recent example.

3. That is a false assumption on your part.

When you come to this site day after day and mindlessly parrot the neocon line concerning the WOT and call people who do not share your blood-lust anti-american, then I believe it is a safe assumption.

4. I don't support the government. Though, at the same time I recognize that the rest of the world blames the U.S. people for that actions of the foreign elitists' puppets in the U.S. government.

You might want to clarify that. I believe that you meant to say that you do not support the government in some domestic areas. In other domestic areas you are in complete agreement, such as the police state and surveillance society. Of course you will come back and say that you do not support a police state or a surveillance society, but here is where the cognitive dissonance I spoke of comes in. You cannot support the warfare state without supporting the surveillance society and police police state. They all walk hand-in-hand together. Since you are an outspoken supporter of the foreign policy of the United States, then you are indeed a proponent of the warfare state and everything that comes with it.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-01-19 08:16:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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