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Title: Dutch panel finds Iraq war had no legal mandate
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8453305.stm
Published: Jan 12, 2010
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2010-01-15 03:03:16 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 1616
Comments: 132

A Netherlands legal panel has concluded the West's military action against Iraq had no sound mandate in international law and that Dutch political support for the war was to a considerable extent led by public and other information from the US and UK. The inquiry, which included a former Supreme Court judge, found the war was not justified by a UN resolution.

Tatarewicz: Would be interesting to know if the 550-page report identified the Israel agents in the US administration who were primarily responsible for instigating the Iraq war.

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*Falls over laughing*

I am impressed that you think the US government follows the basic framework for government based upon the US Constitution. Do you really believe all these foreign interventionist affairs has yielded you increased individual liberties?

If not ... how come? Our national government was designed to hold individual liberties and freedoms and rights as the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

If so ... where are these liberties?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.�

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-19   0:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am impressed that you think the US government follows the basic framework for government based upon the US Constitution.

I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   1:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

1. You are a government apologist and sycophant.

2. You equate the good, hardworking people of the United States with the corrupt and immoral government of the United States.

3. You are unable to fathom that they are not the same thing

4. Of course you can't help but laugh. You are as corrupt and as immoral as the government you proselytize for.

1. That is name calling on your part.

2. You have me confused with those promoting anti-U.S. propaganda.

3. That is a false assumption on your part.

4. I don't support the government. Though, at the same time I recognize that the rest of the world blames the U.S. people for that actions of the foreign elitists' puppets in the U.S. government.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   1:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why is America making war around the world or playing world cop while extracting ever higher taxes from its own citizens while attempting to topple so-called "evil government."

Hmmmmmmm?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.�

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-19   1:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why is America making war around the world or playing world cop while extracting ever higher taxes from its own citizens while attempting to topple so-called "evil government."

Your question is based off a false assumption. It isn't about toppling governments, but killing foreign terrorists, and those who harbor such terrorists.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   3:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It isn't about toppling governments, but killing foreign terrorists, and those who harbor such terrorists.

yes indeed.

do you ever wonder how many terrorists we create every time we bomb a wedding and kill a few dozen innocent people?

and you are buying the official 9/11 conspiracy theory wholesale, huh?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   3:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

here's how 9/11 must have happened....

osama was on the internet one day, and stumbled across PNAC's call for a new pearl harbor, and osama sez to himself, "huh! i'll fix those guys' wagons! i will stage a new pearl harbor for them! ...and everyone will think those assholes from PNAC dun it!"

so osama rigged the 2000 election so the signers of the PNAC document, people like cheney, rumsfeld and the usual assortment of likud loons, got installed into positions that would have enabled them to make 9/11 happen, had they been inclined to make 9/11 happen, which they were most definitely NOT ---despite their yearnings for a new pearl harbor as expressed in the PNAC document they signed.....

then osama organized everything, from the training of the pilots to the security at the airports to the standdown at NORAD to oneill's job at the trade center, including bunnypants' month-long absence from dc while the shit was coming down.

osama even dispatched five mossad guys to film the event....

well, you know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men... little did osama know that the PNAC guys had enough juice to reverse the frameup, and osama found hisself dragging his dialysis machine from pillar to post in an effort to escape the wrath of PNAC.

it's a sad sad thing.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   3:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

here's how 9/11 must have happened....

If 9-11 was a single event, you might have a leg to stand one. But there were a number of terrorist attacks on the U.S. leading up to 9-11. The first World Trade Center bombing, the attack on the U.S.S. Cole, the twin bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Africa.

Each attack was bigger than the previous, leading up to the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   3:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

do you ever wonder how many terrorists we create every time we bomb a wedding and kill a few dozen innocent people?

Do you ever wonder how many terrorist are created when nothing is done to stop them?

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   3:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

why doesnt the fbi include 9/11 on osama's wanted poster?

why did mueller confess he had no evidence of bin laden's involvement?

why didnt bunnypants give the taliban proof of bin laden's involvement when the taliban offered to surrender bin laden if bunnypants could scrounge up evidence?

why did PNAC say they needed "a new pearl harbor"?

do you think it's convenient that those PNAC signatories were installed into positions from which they could make their "new pearl harbor" happen by an election recount in a state governed by a PNAC member?

who dispatched the dancing israelis to "document the event"?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   3:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you ever wonder how many terrorist are created when nothing is done to stop them?

how many terrorists do you create when you shock and awe a country and cause hundreds of thousands of needless deaths?

how you gonna have a "war on terror" if you dont have terrorists? you gots to create terrorists to provide the pretext for your "war on terror", dont you?

how else can you grab oil and preserve israel...? ...you cant just haul off and start exterminating people and steal their oil and land without some excuse, can you?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   3:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why are you so focused on 9-11, while you ignore the terrorist attacks that preceded it?

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   3:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If good men do nothing, that is evil enough.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   3:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why are you so focused on 9-11, while you ignore the terrorist attacks that preceded it?

why do you refuse to admit that neocons admitted that they needed an excuse to grab oil and land in the middle east?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   3:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why do you support denying the U.S. from defending itself?

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   3:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If good men do nothing, that is evil enough.

are you trying to say that the neocons are good men?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   3:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why do you support denying the U.S. from defending itself?

why do you deny that the biggest danger to america is the neocon cabal that confessed they needed a new pearl harbor, rigged an election so they'd be in position to stage their new pearl harbor, then staged their new pearl harbor, then bombed thousands of people to death in an attempt to steal oil and secure israel, and are currently agitating to expand the wars into iran, yemen, sudan, somalia, venezuela, and lord knows where else?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   3:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you don't understand the quote, then there is no point in explaining to you. You still wouldn't understand it.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   4:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why do you ignore the foreign dangers to the U.S.?

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   4:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

neocons, who terrorized their own countrymen to rally support for their oil and land grab, are good guys.

good enough.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   4:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

you guys have had a free lunch ever since the holyhoax... you still have the american media and the politicians, but geology is working against you.

this is your last chance to make the world safe for ashkenazi supremacism before the oil situation gets critical, so, even though the PNAC 9-11/war on terror operation is a horrible risk, you dont have much choice...

...especially seeing as how israel was such a piss-poor idea in the first place.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   4:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The U.S. has not seen even a drop of oil from Iraq, so that kills your argument.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   4:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You say, "you, you, you..." But I have yet to hear what you are for? What your agenda is? And until I hear you answer these questions. I will no longer reply to you.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   4:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The U.S. has not seen even a drop of oil from Iraq, so that kills your argument.

that doesnt kill the argument at all... all it proves is that you guys have bitten off way more than you can chew...

...and the really big dogs knew it was a haywire idea from the start, but they can see that this "war on terror" business will greatly enhance their opportunities to loot as america expires from oil shortages...

...all of which accounts for the crashing of the economy and the hundreds of billions of handouts to the financial wizards that set the whole thing up.

meanwhile, these guys could give a shit about israel: they can buy canada or argentina with the money they're stashing away... they dont need israel for a refuge.

...which is a good thing, seeing as how israel was such a piss-poor idea in the first place.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   4:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The U.S. has not seen even a drop of oil from Iraq, so that kills your argument.

you might look up US oil imports: iraq is the sixth-biggest supplier of oil to the US.

so that kind of gives us an idea of your credibility, doesnt it?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   4:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That's because the commies and the muslims were busy killing each before hand.

Afghanistan is 3% of the Muslim world. Try again.

Now that you bring it up, the Soviet loss in Afghanistan is about the time we discovered the evil Muslims. Weird how that enemy creation works.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2010-01-19   4:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Semantics hurts you argument. The Afgans (muslims) and the Soviets (communists) fought each other furiously. At the time, that was a a major war front for the USSR. And you trying to trivialize it is insult to everyone.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   5:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

...all of which accounts for the crashing of the economy and the hundreds of billions of handouts to the financial wizards that set the whole thing up.

Don't mean to nit-pick, but according to the latest accounting I've read, the amount of money handed out to the people responsible for the financial crisis is now up to $27 trillion.

Esso  posted on  2010-01-19   6:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

according to the latest accounting I've read, the amount of money handed out to the people responsible for the financial crisis is now up to $27 trillion.

$27 trillion...

i should have checked before i posted.

thank you for the correction.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   7:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The only foreign terrorists of any consequence over the past century have been Jews, whether staging the Communist Revolution in Russia or driving Palestinians from their homes to form the illegal Israeli state, employing false flag terrorist acts like the attack on the USS Liberty to inveigle others to defend their criminal state. Any terrorism against the US that has not been a Mossad false flag was precipitated by acts of Israeli terrorism against Arabs for America's co-optive support of the Zionist thievery and atrocities in Palestine.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2010-01-19   7:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

here's a report (july 20) of 23.7 trillion...

i'm afraid to look any farther.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   7:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

1. That is name calling on your part.

I disagree. Those are political adjectives. An apologist is a person who makes a defense in speech or writing of a belief, idea, etc. A sycophant is a person that fawns over another person or institution. If I were name calling then I would call you a piece of shit, or something along that line.

2. You have me confused with those promoting anti-U.S. propaganda.

Your constant war mongering and support of the foreign misadventures of the two party fraud IS promoting anti-U.S. propaganda. Both parties are using the Iraq, Afghanistan and the WOT in general for crass political purposes that is not in the best interests of this country and in fact hurt it. Their misadventures have nothing to do with protecting this nation. One only has to look at the continued lack of border controls and the police state framework the two party fraud has been continuously building to see that their intentions are nefarious. See Obama's new executive order for the Governor's board as just one recent example.

3. That is a false assumption on your part.

When you come to this site day after day and mindlessly parrot the neocon line concerning the WOT and call people who do not share your blood-lust anti-american, then I believe it is a safe assumption.

4. I don't support the government. Though, at the same time I recognize that the rest of the world blames the U.S. people for that actions of the foreign elitists' puppets in the U.S. government.

You might want to clarify that. I believe that you meant to say that you do not support the government in some domestic areas. In other domestic areas you are in complete agreement, such as the police state and surveillance society. Of course you will come back and say that you do not support a police state or a surveillance society, but here is where the cognitive dissonance I spoke of comes in. You cannot support the warfare state without supporting the surveillance society and police police state. They all walk hand-in-hand together. Since you are an outspoken supporter of the foreign policy of the United States, then you are indeed a proponent of the warfare state and everything that comes with it.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-01-19   8:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

1. Those are political adjectives.

2. Your constant war mongering and support of the foreign misadventures of the two party fraud IS promoting anti-U.S. propaganda.

3. When you come to this site day after day and mindlessly parrot the neocon line concerning the WOT

4. You might want to clarify that.

5. In other domestic areas you are in complete agreement, such as the police state and surveillance society.

6. You cannot support the warfare state without supporting the surveillance society and police police state.

7. Since you are an outspoken supporter of the foreign policy of the United States,

1. If you are going to insult someone, at least have the courage to admit to doing it.

2. So to you, promoting national defense is being against the nation. You are truly mentally twists (and yes that is a jab at you).

3. While you come on this site day after day and mindlessly parrot the the foreign line concerning the WOT attack.

4. I realize there are several groups that want to destroy the U.S. population. This is something you don't seem to realize.

5. Now you are just lying. Acknowledging an attack by foreigners is not the same as supporting a police state.

6. Here is another lie by you. I never supported welfare. Actually, I am against it.

7. It depends on the policy. Unlike, I don't generalize and lump every policy into one group.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   10:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This anti-U.S. propaganda stated by the press is set for a backdrop as justification for genocide of the U.S. population.

Do you think that the deaths of millions is A-OK if it serves the purpose of corporations and bankers? That is what your agenda appears to be, to stand up for the "rights" of inhuman bastards to kill as many innocent people as they wish as long as it makes them a tidy profit.

Your ridiculous claim that this is "anti-US propaganda" IS anti-US propaganda, where it is NOT the interests of the United States of America that is served by these criminal actions being reported, but that of those who ARE trying to destroy the USA.

let to the holocaust right before and during World War II

You sound like Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's Propaganda Minister who always painted Hitler's victims as being less than human, and deserving of whatever was done to them.

What is your agenda?

Stopping those who wish to destroy this Nation and her People.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-19   13:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

1. That is what your agenda appears to be, to stand up for the "rights" of inhuman bastards to kill as many innocent people as they wish as long as it makes them a tidy profit.

2. Your ridiculous claim that this is "anti-US propaganda" IS anti-US propaganda,

3. You sound like Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's Propaganda Minister who always painted Hitler's victims as being less than human, and deserving of whatever was done to them.

1. So you consider the U.S. as a whole to be "inhuman bastards"?

2. Your double-talk is getting tiring.

3. Actually, that is what you are doing in your post. You are painting your victims of deserving what is done to them by calling them "inhuman bastards", by accusing them of the deaths of millions of people, and by accusing them of making a profit while doing so.

So, you are not only a liar, but a hypocrite as well.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-01-19   13:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

let's see here...

we know that neocons believe in leo strauss's theory of the "noble lie", in which the governed are lied to as a matter of policy by the elite... the premise being that the truth is too precious to be entrusted to common citizens, including citizens of a democracy... which of course puts the burden of properly educating the voting public on the neocon propaganda apparatus.

we know the neocons believe they "are an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality".

we know that the PNAC neocons said they needed "a new pearl harbor" in september of 2000, just before they were installed in high positions by a phony election recount in a state governed by a PNAC signatory.

we know that media and politicians are integral parts of the propaganda apparatus.

we know the media and politicians assigned blame for the 9/11 attack within hours of the attack, way before any investigation, we know that neocons resisted the idea of an investigation of 9/11, and we know that when the neocons and their toadies finally caved in and allowed an "investigation", that investigation was was restricted in ways that rendered the "investigation" farcial.

we know that there are various factions allied with the neocons, neocons themselves being mostly concerned with making the world safe for ashkenazi supremacism and israel... deathwish christian fellow travelers being mostly concerned with raising so much cain that jesus will come back ...oily corporate fascists being mostly concerned with securing access to oil and profits as oil supplies diminish.

we know that neocons have an unfortunate tendency to confirm hitler's description of jewish debate tactics, as do you.

all we have to decide is: which brand of neocon or neocon toady are you?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   13:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

taking all the above into account... including neocons' belief in lying to the governed ...neocons' belief in their ability to create their own reality ...neocons' express desire for "a new pearl harbor" ...neocons' support structure in the media and politics ...neocons' positions in the government, media and politics when 9/11 happened ...neocon control of the ensuing investigation...

taking all that into account, rational people should be suspicious of the official neocon conspiracy theory, shouldnt they?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   13:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

and yet you have the nerve to come in here and confirm hitler's description of jewish debate tactics as you defend the neocon project.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-19   14:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

we know that neocons believe in leo strauss's theory of the "noble lie", in which the governed are lied to as a matter of policy by the elite

As we common folks say, that's a humm-dinger! GWBush begged the American People to advance his war party effort supporting "nation building" and "democracy around the world."

The US is not a "democracy." The US is a "republic." I suppose even presidents fail to read what they swore to uphold.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.�

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-19   14:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

1. So you consider the U.S. as a whole to be "inhuman bastards"?

Does the US as a whole condone inhuman torture and the killing of innocent people? The inhuman bastards I am talking about are those who pull the strings of our government and formulate plans that enrich themselves at the expense of innocent lives. That would include the CEOs of various defense contractors, corporate heads who control the news, international bankers, and those who control THEM.

2. Your double-talk is getting tiring.

Accuse the victims of your own deeds to be the guilty parties, how novel an idea is that...

3. Actually, that is what you are doing in your post. You are painting your victims of deserving what is done to them by calling them "inhuman bastards", by accusing them of the deaths of millions of people, and by accusing them of making a profit while doing so.

MY victims? YOUR victims are the People of the United States of America, along with the millions who have lost their lives at the hands of those such as you.

This Nation's honor has been tarnished, our citizen's made into living and walking targets of revenge of those who have had their family members murdered, and our treasure squandered to line the pockets of your corporate masters.

THESE three innocent lives are just an example of what YOU condone, promote, and are responsible for...

The Guantánamo “Suicides”: A Camp Delta sergeant blows the whistle

So, you are not only a liar, but a hypocrite as well.

Look yourself in the mirror when you say those words, THEN it will be true.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-01-19   15:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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