Title: Ron Paul Powerful Speech - A Call for Revolution? Source:
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snipurl.com/jointheparty Watch and listen this powerful Ron Paul's speech (where we're at): Slavery sold as liberty. Socialism to save capitalism. A psychotic nation. Exuberant taxation. Epidemic of cronyism. 700 military basis all over the world. Tortures of 21st century. We have forgatten what made America great. Revolutionary changes are needed and forseen. Is Ron Paul the ONLY honest man in American's politics??
Paul should resign, in grand fashion, to make a statement, and hit the road in a long tour of this country, spreading his message.
Other than that he is spinning his wheels preaching to the choir.
How come he is the only pol you keep chastising? If he pulled along side your capsized boat in his boat and saved your sorry ass from drowning you would bitch because he didn't walk on water when he saved you. You and christine would make a good pair. You both bellyache about Ron Paul
Why don't you grab your gun, start shooting it up and lead the way? Otherwise you are only preaching to the choir.
Apparently you will never be satisfied with any candidate. All you perfect voters are alike. With you it is all or nothing. Poor Ron Paul is damned if he does or damned if he doesn't. We've heard enough of your whining over Ron Paul. Now tell us who you believe is out front trying to right the wrongs and who you support. Your silence is either deafening or a blessing!
#15. To: LACUMO, Christine, Lod, All, other assorted losers (#10)
Why don't you grab your gun, start shooting it up and lead the way?
Now, that is a very good question my friend.
Those of us that have such thoughts also do a little serious thinking. Namely in the past year or two, there have been people such as you describe that have IN FACT done just that. They have taken gun in hand and made their statement hoping to lead the way. Mr Von Brunn for example, the latest.
But, what happened? Absolutely nothing, it was all for naught because not one other single American followed.
Lacumo had his chance to keep a revolution going, something he continuously urges others to do, such as above. But did Lacumo do anything???? Not a thing my friend, not a peep. Urge me and others to take up arms and draw blood, but not Mr. Lacumo
So you see Lac, most of us are intelligent enough to understand that IF we took up arms, you that does the talking would become mute, do nothing, just as you have with Von Brunn.
You and too many like you would be behind us and Mr. von Brunn all the way.
Way in the rear Lac, way behind all of us.
Ron Paul does not lead the charge because of fear, he talks and talks and talks but his abject fear holds him back. Just as your fear my friend, just as your fear. Talk, nothing more.
#21. To: Cynicom, christine, Jethro Tull, All (#15)
So you see Lac, most of us are intelligent enough to understand that IF we took up arms, you that does the talking would become mute, do nothing, just as you have with Von Brunn.
Thank god this is exactly what the Founding Fathers did. They talked and talked until king George finally said ok. You can be independent.
I do believe there are thinkers and there are leaders and most all of us fall somewhere in between. All the billions , maybe trillions of words written on the web are falling on deaf ears(the choir).Everybody has the solution as long as they don't have to stick their neck out. At some point action, not anymore words is needed. Othherwise it is all just a bunch of banshees spouting off.
The Founding Fathers, Jefferson in particular, told us the tree of liberty needed to be replenished(fertilized) BY BLOOD of tyrants and patriots from time to time. It is what sustains the tree of liberty. Failure to fertilize the tree of liberty, it dies and a tree of tyranical grows in its place. We are there and then some.
We are at the fork in the road. We can turn around out of fear which changes nothing, or we can take one of the forks, and hope for the best and see what is around the bend. Other than that, we should hunker down in silence and accept what's coming our way.
It is easy to critize someone who is trying. They are out front and a handy target(Ron Paul). Until someone else comes along willing to even speak out opr point out our shortcomings, Paul has been the only one. It is ok to say he has the right message, but the public assassination of his character leaves the next possible leader, rather than stepping forth, to remain in the background.
It has been said many times that war is too important to leave to generals. I believe, voting is too important to be left up to the ignorant masses also. When we have women voting for a candiodate because he is a hunj, or simply voting for an R or a D because our parents were is ludicrous, but that is where we are at.
The boob tube and the anti-Americans who own and run it will never be overcome. It is their main tool(weapon if you will) that is leading our destruction. Did you ever notice in the countries that have had revolutions or a coup, the militants first targets are the tv, radio, and newspapers, the media in general.
As for me , I won't be behind you, but alongside. And Jethro, I do understand and do get it. Call me at 814-336-1579 and I'll go to DC with you to see Jim Traficant.
#22. To: LACUMO, Jethro Tull, Christine, All, assorted losers (#21)
As for me , I won't be behind you, but alongside
If that be true, then stop throwing verbal firebombs at your friends and or fellow Americans here on the forum.
I would refresh your memory a bit. You being a Union person and all.
In roughly my time of recall say since 1900, there has been but one revolutionary that came from the masses, just ONE Lac. All the others, good or bad, have been from the wealthy elite, the intelligentsia, people of national note.
Just one has accomplished a revolution.
It will take a person of national note to lead the charge for Americans, that is a simple mathematical fact. Ron Paul had his chance, his turn, his opportunity and Americans by the millions,including me, rallied with support and money.
The result was Paul was brazen enough to throw us away by issuing an email declaring his love and undying affection for the republican party, for ever and ever.
Any and all support and affection for Ron Paul is misguided, his message was great, he NEVER intended to run the race.
So get over Ron Paul, not his message, and look with the rest of us to Traficant.
So get over Ron Paul, not his message, and look with the rest of us to Traficant.
Unfortunately, Ron Paul is the only one of prominence speaking the message. As for Traficant, he is a convicted criminal. While his words sound pretty, he cannot be trusted.
Unfortunately, Ron Paul is the only one of prominence speaking the message. As for Traficant, he is a convicted criminal. While his words sound pretty, he cannot be trusted.
Apparently you know very little about Traficant. He definitely was convicted, but in a kangaroo court of our government. You know why they call it criminal justice? Precisely because he was convicted by criminal justices because he stood up to the lousy jews when he stood up for John Demjanjuk. The jews tried Demjanjuk in a kangaroo court and the lousy U.S. government tried Traficant in one of their kangaroo courts. How would you like to be tried in one of their courts? Hell, they can lock any one of us away without even charging us.
Cynicom is dead on when he says there is no one else on the horizon but Traficant who knows how rotten our political system has become, and we can thank the jews for the destruction of our system and their destruction has been going on for well over a hundred years.
Would you care to tell all of us on here on how you can see a solution to our problems? You are extremely savvy and intelligent to the point you make me feel dumb and stupid. You are so wise and maybe you could step up and be one of our leaders and return us to happier days.
Would you like to be called Hayek the Great, or simply the Genius? Let us know pronto. We have so little time left!
Would you care to tell all of us on here on how you can see a solution to our problems?
There is no solution. The problems cannot be fixed because they stem from the mindset of the American people. They want, want, and want and will never be satisfied with what they get. They will continue to elect people who will give them what they want regardless of the consequences up until the day the government collapses upon itself, which, if history is any indication, it will most certainly do. At that point in time, chaos and violence will ensue and the American people, in their demand for "law and order" will latch on to the first tyrant who comes along and promises that law and order.
You are extremely savvy and intelligent to the point you make me feel dumb and stupid. You are so wise and maybe you could step up and be one of our leaders and return us to happier days.
Would you like to be called Hayek the Great, or simply the Genius? Let us know pronto. We have so little time left!
There is no solution. The problems cannot be fixed because they stem from the mindset of the American people. At that point in time, chaos and violence will ensue and the American people, in their demand for "law and order" will latch on to the first tyrant who comes along and promises that law and order.
There is no solution. I disagree! But someone might get hurt.
in their demand for "law and order" the American people will latch onto the first tyrant that comes along that promises law & order. Isn't that where we are already at in this country?
I say like our founding Fathers, enough is enough and it is time to kick their sorry asses out or send them to hell via the musket or the rope. Or would you be afraid someone might get hurt?
I say like our founding Fathers, enough is enough and it is time to kick their sorry asses out or send them to hell via the musket or the rope. Or would you be afraid someone might get hurt?
Where are the graves of those you've killed in your revolution tough guy? What? You don't have any? Well go on with your bad self then and get busy! No one is stopping you macho man! DO IT instead of talking shit and waiting around for someone else to do what you yourself don't have the balls to do.
Fuck off douche bag. The day you start digging the graves of those you've killed in the name of your revolution is the day you can start trying to chastise me or anyone else.
Fuck off douche bag. The day you start digging the graves of those you've killed in the name of your revolution is the day you can start trying to chastise me or anyone else.
Fucking pussy.
This is the standard modus operandi and the language they use when they are up the creek without a paddle. I believe you have lost it assuming you ever had it. I'll see to it that you get a 2c deferment in the next revolution. That's 2c= conscientious coward and that is synonomous with a Hayek Fan and all the little Hyakees.
This is the standard modus operandi and the language they use when they are up the creek without a paddle. I believe you have lost it assuming you ever had it. I'll see to it that you get a 2c deferment in the next revolution. That's 2c= conscientious coward and that is synonomous with a Hayek Fan and all the little Hyakees.
And you have the modus operandi of a government stooge trying to get people to write something that can get them arrested. You are an obvious Hal Turner traitor.
You call other people cowards for doing something that you yourself aren't even willing to do. You are a hypocrite of the worst kind.
As for your revolution, once the government collapses you will see it - in spades - and I will be there with my weapons in hand to support whichever side promises the most liberty. Of course that isn't good enough for you because your goal is to get someone to say something inflammatory enough to be visited by an alphabet agency.
As for your revolution, once the government collapses you will see it - in spades - and I will be there with my weapons in hand to support whichever side promises the most liberty.
As for your revolution, once the government collapses you will see it - in spades - and I will be there with my weapons in hand to support whichever side promises the most liberty.
that's the way i see it happening too.
The douchbag I am talking to is trying to get someone to make an inflammatory statement which the government can then use to pay them a visit. I do not believe he is an honest poster.
Fuck off douche bag. The day you start digging the graves of those you've killed in the name of your revolution is the day you can start trying to chastise me or anyone else.
Fucking pussy.
Why do you speak or write such things about yourself? Thank you for letting us all know you are gutless. Thank god you have exposed your cowardly self. Your leg irons and chains are already ordered up for you. May the lord have mercy on your gutless soul.
Why do you speak or write such things about yourself? Thank you for letting us all know you are gutless. Thank god you have exposed your cowardly self. Your leg irons and chains are already ordered up for you. May the lord have mercy on your gutless soul.
Says the boy who refuses to do what he condemn others for not doing. LOL! You are looking in the mirror and speaking to yourself. LOL!
Says the boy who refuses to do what he condemn others for not doing. LOL! You are looking in the mirror and speaking to yourself. LOL!
Your first mistake and sadly not your last is to spout off believing you know where I stand in the political spectrum. You did the same thing chastising Jim Traficant earlier today.
I believe each and everyone of us who post on these forums will sooner or later be investigated and visited by our corrupt government officials and that includes me. There is something honorable and patriotic when those of us speak out with conviction and real knowledge of persons and issues. To spout off with half truths and innuendos(sp) does nothing to help our situation, nor our character. Only fools do that. It is one thing to accidentally misquote or by ignorance and every effort should be made to correct our mistakes as soon as we learn of them. Can you guess where you stand?
We may never know why Ron Paul quit the last presidential race nor know exactly why he chooses to stay in the republican party. Maybe some day he will enlighten us. I am 66 years old and not in very good health. I will speak out against the tyranny we are being ruled by when ever I can. Those of you who have no backbone and are awaiting a knock on the door would be wise to just disappear from these forums before you disappear period. Why, just those tag lines you are using may have already got your name on the list. Think about it! There is nothing sadder than a person who has been conditioned to live in fear.
I've paid my dues for this country, 4 years in the military, paid my share of taxes and am still paying. Being from the old school with somewhat of an education, I believe I am entitled to speak my mind. If you want to believe I am trying to get your sorry ass and others into hot water with our corrupt leadership , so be it. There was a time when I too was foolish enough to believe in our system. Not any more and I know we don't have much time left til the other and final shoe drops. And to this I say, hurry Jim Traficant and thank you Ron Paul.
Your first mistake and sadly not your last is to spout off believing you know where I stand in the political spectrum. You did the same thing chastising Jim Traficant earlier today.
I made no mistake. You are a loud mouthed punk, plain and simple. You condemn me because I'm not out starting a revolution that you yourself don't have the guts to start. As someone who claims to be old with one foot in the grave you should be ready to take one for the team. However, like me, you won't. Why? Because no matter how bad things are, we are not ready to throw everything away for a useless cause - and one man making a last stand is just that - a useless cause. It's not time yet for what you advocate, although as I have already stated, that time will eventually come. As far as Traficant goes, I made my opinion abundantly clear and I gave my reasons for that opinion. You are not required to agree with me and I'm not required to give a shit.
There is something honorable and patriotic when those of us speak out with conviction and real knowledge of persons and issues. To spout off with half truths and innuendos(sp) does nothing to help our situation, nor our character. Only fools do that. It is one thing to accidentally misquote or by ignorance and every effort should be made to correct our mistakes as soon as we learn of them. Can you guess where you stand?
Your every post to me has been nothing but unfounded accusations about my character because I do not choose to trust Traficant. So maybe you should ask yourself the same question.
We may never know why Ron Paul quit the last presidential race nor know exactly why he chooses to stay in the republican party. Maybe some day he will enlighten us. I am 66 years old and not in very good health. I will speak out against the tyranny we are being ruled by when ever I can. Those of you who have no backbone and are awaiting a knock on the door would be wise to just disappear from these forums before you disappear period. Why, just those tag lines you are using may have already got your name on the list. Think about it! There is nothing sadder than a person who has been conditioned to live in fear.
You aren't speaking out about anything. The only thing you are doing is talking out of your ass about other people because they disagree with you about Traficant. As far as Ron Paul goes, I both campaigned and voted for him as the Libertarian Party candidate in 1988 and both campaigned and voted for him in the Republican primary this last election cycle. It was the first time I've voted for a member of the two party fraud since Reagan and unless Dr. Paul runs again will likely be the last.
Now for the government's list(s). I already know that I'm on at least one of their lists, and likely more. I found out when my dad, who has the same name as me, missed his flight because our name came up on the no fly list. Since he's retired with 30 years in the AF and is about as rockribbed a Republican as you can find, I have no doubt that it is me on the list and not him. You know what? I don't give a damn. Fuck the government. I have been outspoken on this and other sites since the days of the BBS. I served in this country's army for 15 years and was sent all over this fucking world as a political pawn of the two party fraud. I have earned the right to say what I fucking want to say and if you and/or the two party fraud doesn't like what I have to say then you can all kiss my lily white ass. They can put me on all the fucking lists they want because I have no intention of being treated like a criminal in order to board a plane any damned way.
Having said that, however, I will also not be baited by some anonymous ass wipe into making a statement(s) which the government could use to incriminate me just to prove to him that my dick is as big as his. That appears to be what you are looking for. Find it somewhere else.
I've paid my dues for this country, 4 years in the military, paid my share of taxes and am still paying. Being from the old school with somewhat of an education, I believe I am entitled to speak my mind. If you want to believe I am trying to get your sorry ass and others into hot water with our corrupt leadership , so be it. There was a time when I too was foolish enough to believe in our system. Not any more and I know we don't have much time left til the other and final shoe drops. And to this I say, hurry Jim Traficant and thank you Ron Paul.
I'll see your four and raise you eleven, for a total of fifteen. I'll be glad to match DD-214's with you any fucking day to see who the god damned coward is. I may not have been a special forces or combat arms "hero" and I may not be a Vietnam War veteran, but I participated in combat operations in five theaters of operations and did my job with distinction and honor while under fire on more than one occasion.
I don't know where you get this idea that I believe in the system. You would be hard pressed to find someone one this board as cynical as I am about the government or the American people. You are the one who appears to believe that a revolution will bring back the "good old days" of federalism. It seems to me that you are the one that believes in the system. I believe just the opposite will happen. I believe that the American people will cling to the first tyrant who speaks a good game, just like the German's did in the 1930's. I believe that when the time comes, those who think like I do will be fighting a losing battle running guerrilla ops against government buttlickers like those who post on LP and FR.
Your reply to me #60 leaves no doubt in my mind that you have some loose marbles and mental problems. Who gives a hoot how long and where you served in the military. You sound like you are another Audie Murphy Apparently you were dumb enough to give them 15 years while I became aware how stupid I was giving them 4 years.
All my efforts pointing out(alerts) how little time we really have left before TSHTF were posted by me in hopes there might be some leaders who would come out of the woodwork and those of us who understand our grave situation could join in and do our part in taking back this country. You on the other hand, accuse me of trying to get you personally to stick your neck out.
I'm not George Patton. I don't have the skills nor the power to shame a coward into battle and taking back this country will be war. You sir,IMHO, are a coward. You state over and over that there are enough hunters out there who will turn their guns on all the despots in government when the time comes. Apparently you will be snug and safe at the beach or in your mountain top hideaway.
As for Jim Traficant, well you are not worthy of being a supporter of his. Jim Traficant is a gutsy fighter. He doesn't like nor has time for wishy-washy cowards. You know very little about him and it appears you have already made up your mind about him. I would ask you who you see on the horizon that will be a big part of the solution to our country's problems, but I wouldn't trust your judgement.
Now see if you can make up, find, beg,borrow, or steal some nasty new names to call me because the same old names are getting boring. I like your Clint Eastwood one when you called me a punk. That's really adult and macho!
Your reply to me #60 leaves no doubt in my mind that you have some loose marbles and mental problems. Who gives a hoot how long and where you served in the military. You sound like you are another Audie Murphy Apparently you were dumb enough to give them 15 years while I became aware how stupid I was giving them 4 years.
LOL! You are the one who brought up your military service, all I did was reciprocate. If you don't want to know about others service then keep your mouth shut about your own. I was no Audie Murphy and specifically stated that I was not. I wasn't even in a combat arms branch, which I also specifically stated. You need to either brush up on your comprehension skills or put down whatever it is you are drinking or smoking. That I was in five combat operations doesn't make me an Audie Murphy, it makes me an unlucky pawn used by dishonorable men for their own political purposes. The only thing that serving with honor and distinction under fire means is that I was able to competently do the job I was trained to do without freezing up and shitting myself. And to paraphrase you, who gives a hoot if you think I'm dumb for staying in 15 years? I had my reasons.
All my efforts pointing out(alerts) how little time we really have left before TSHTF were posted by me in hopes there might be some leaders who would come out of the woodwork and those of us who understand our grave situation could join in and do our part in taking back this country. You on the other hand, accuse me of trying to get you personally to stick your neck out.
You need to go back and reread your posts because that's not what your efforts were at all. Your efforts were to attack me because I don't hold the same views as you towards Traficant. That was your only intention, so don't give me this "noble cause" bullshit. Personally stick my neck out? WTF does that even mean? LOL! Would you like me to go blow something up? Assassinate a local official? LOL! This is an obscure political chat forum where (mostly) like-minded people come to voice their opinion about the news of the day. LOL! If you are looking for more than that then you need to be looking locally because that's where politics begins and that's where the rubber will meet the road when TSHTF. Once your revolution gets going the circumstances in your area will be completely different from the circumstances in someone else's. Besides that, once things get that far, there will be no Freedom4um or any other non-government approved chat rooms, if any at all. Are you so dense that I have to tell you this? LOL! And you call me stupid. LOL!
those of us who understand our grave situation could join in and do our part in taking back this country.
You are as clueless as the day is long. If this is what you are interested in then what are you doing wasting your time here? Get off of the internet and go speak with your friends and neighbors about gathering food, water, ammo and weaponry for the revolution you have in your mind is going to take place. Instead of wasting your time arguing with anonymous people who likely live hundreds of miles away from you, make better use of the time we supposedly don't have to get together and plan escape routes to various obscure and safe areas of operation. Round up a group of like-minded people and take a Red Cross class on basic first aid skills and community CPR. Gather army field manuals on combat lifesaving, small unit tactics, the Ranger handbook, and guerrilla operations while you can still get them. Purchase paintball guns and rifles go out into the woods and practice fire team and squad level operations. If this is what you are truly afraid is going to happen, then there are a myriad of things that you should be doing locally and whining that others aren't doing what you think they should be doing is not one of them. Hey here's an idea! Instead of whining that you can't find any leadership on the internet, try becoming a leader yourself at the local level by accomplishing the above objectives.
But then we both know that's not your real intention don't we. I've received word about you (the e-mail system here is a wonderful thing). You are some bitter old man who shows up here every now and then (probably during a drinking binge) and does nothing but fling insults at people. You are a waste of my time and I do believe that I'm through slinging mud back and forth with you. Have a wonderful day. I know I will.
LOL! You are the one who brought up your military service, all I did was reciprocate.
You really are a trip aren't you? I merely mentioned that I served 4 years in the military and never mentioned one iota of that 4 years of service. You on the otherhand, went into detail on where you served to make yourself look like a hero. Instead, it made you look like a horse's ass. Then you did the bragaddacio dance of having out done my service by 11 years.
It is fine with me if you never ever engage me again. You can think what you want of me and so far, you aren't even close to knowing anything about me or where I stand on the issues. You may call me whatever you like as far as claiming I am trying to cause you cowards trouble by egging you on and into making statements that will bring down the wrath of your neocon gods. I on the otherhand will forevermore consider you a yellowbwlly coward who expects others to right the ship of state while you remain out of harms way cause you might get hurt.