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Title: Ron Paul Powerful Speech - A Call for Revolution?
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Published: Jan 8, 2010
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2010-01-15 16:40:06 by Itistoolate
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snipurl.com/jointheparty Watch and listen this powerful Ron Paul's speech (where we're at): Slavery sold as liberty. Socialism to save capitalism. A psychotic nation. Exuberant taxation. Epidemic of cronyism. 700 military basis all over the world. Tortures of 21st century. We have forgatten what made America great. Revolutionary changes are needed and forseen. Is Ron Paul the ONLY honest man in American's politics??
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That was an excellent speech.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I don't care what anyone says he is a very wise and great man.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Great video and song, thanks.
True but speeches to a nearly empty house are meaningless. Paul should resign, in grand fashion, to make a statement, and hit the road in a long tour of this country, spreading his message. Other than that he is spinning his wheels preaching to the choir.
Maybe it's that I just want to believe it, but it seems that more and more folks are waking up to the NWO threat to their lives and their very existence.
Lod... Over a year ago over 165 MILLION people rejected Paul. They voted for more war and bigger government. His ending remark needs great expansion when he speaks of revolution.
That was awesome, thanks for posting it. Unfortunately only a small percentage of the population will see that speech, and half of them will watch only because they are frightened of the other half, who actually agree with Dr Paul. It does seem that more and more people are paying attention though, and there's no question that bodes well for us as a species.
In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report. Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject. Nice ... thanks Lod !
Whoever would return government to the "will of the people" must first return the United States to the use of CONSTITUTIONAL COINAGE as a medium of exchange and through itthe Constitution as law in the United States.
Other than that he is spinning his wheels preaching to the choir. How come he is the only pol you keep chastising? If he pulled along side your capsized boat in his boat and saved your sorry ass from drowning you would bitch because he didn't walk on water when he saved you. You and christine would make a good pair. You both bellyache about Ron Paul Why don't you grab your gun, start shooting it up and lead the way? Otherwise you are only preaching to the choir. Apparently you will never be satisfied with any candidate. All you perfect voters are alike. With you it is all or nothing. Poor Ron Paul is damned if he does or damned if he doesn't. We've heard enough of your whining over Ron Paul. Now tell us who you believe is out front trying to right the wrongs and who you support. Your silence is either deafening or a blessing!
A (seemingly) kinder, gentler, more benevolent Empire that would have been the envy of all the Caesars.
_________________________________________________________________________ WONDERFUL VIDEO, thanks for posting it. I liked all of it but the part at the end couldn't be said better--none of us can do everything but all of us can do something.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. that's not even a criticism. it's an idea. a suggestion. in fact, a damn good one, imo.
That is key. If each of us can just awaken one person, every day, and they can do the same, we might have a chance.
Now, that is a very good question my friend. Those of us that have such thoughts also do a little serious thinking. Namely in the past year or two, there have been people such as you describe that have IN FACT done just that. They have taken gun in hand and made their statement hoping to lead the way. Mr Von Brunn for example, the latest. But, what happened? Absolutely nothing, it was all for naught because not one other single American followed. Lacumo had his chance to keep a revolution going, something he continuously urges others to do, such as above. But did Lacumo do anything???? Not a thing my friend, not a peep. Urge me and others to take up arms and draw blood, but not Mr. Lacumo So you see Lac, most of us are intelligent enough to understand that IF we took up arms, you that does the talking would become mute, do nothing, just as you have with Von Brunn. You and too many like you would be behind us and Mr. von Brunn all the way. Way in the rear Lac, way behind all of us. Ron Paul does not lead the charge because of fear, he talks and talks and talks but his abject fear holds him back. Just as your fear my friend, just as your fear. Talk, nothing more.
What don't you get? RP STOPPED being a candidate *and* instead remained in the Republican party. Had he the desire, the table was set for him to launch a Freedom Party, but he refused and instead is trying to audit the Fed. I wish him luck, lots and lots of luck. He's no leader. He's a thinker, and a writer, but he's no leader. This isn't meant to malign his character, but rather it's an honest assessment. I'll be in DC in Feb to listen to Jim Traficant on the 13th of Feb. If he isn't about starting a 3rd party, it will be my last meeting with Jim. If OTOH it's the start of a new movement, I'm there.
Precisely. Palin talked a good game, joined the system, Dobbs huffed and puffed, joined the system, Paul did his duck walk long ago, in the system. It is the system that has the yoke on our necks and anyone that bows to the system is our enemy. Traficant has the perfect opportunity, say the word and the money and support will be there. He has name recognition nationwide just as Paul, Palin and the rest. Will he put himself at risk with a third party candidate???? I hope so, there is no one else.
Seems to me every damn Caesar was more honest.
It's not socialism if it's the white man's money
Errors: 1) Telling people that they are slaves 2) Telling people that they are psychotic 3) Telling them that they are numb 4) The federal reserve stuff is too complicated. Rail against bankers instead, and name the fed bankers as the biggest scoundrels of all. 5) Telling people they have forgotten. 6) People don't actually give a shit about torture, but they like to think that they do. So tell them they were deceived, that it was done incompetently, indiscriminately, and produced no good intel; that as a government policy it always fails. Let them save face before the court of their own conscience. Madness of crowds? There is NEVER an escape from it. Harness it. Paul's an amateur, and I think he likes it that way.
It's not socialism if it's the white man's money
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Thank god this is exactly what the Founding Fathers did. They talked and talked until king George finally said ok. You can be independent. I do believe there are thinkers and there are leaders and most all of us fall somewhere in between. All the billions , maybe trillions of words written on the web are falling on deaf ears(the choir).Everybody has the solution as long as they don't have to stick their neck out. At some point action, not anymore words is needed. Othherwise it is all just a bunch of banshees spouting off. The Founding Fathers, Jefferson in particular, told us the tree of liberty needed to be replenished(fertilized) BY BLOOD of tyrants and patriots from time to time. It is what sustains the tree of liberty. Failure to fertilize the tree of liberty, it dies and a tree of tyranical grows in its place. We are there and then some. We are at the fork in the road. We can turn around out of fear which changes nothing, or we can take one of the forks, and hope for the best and see what is around the bend. Other than that, we should hunker down in silence and accept what's coming our way. It is easy to critize someone who is trying. They are out front and a handy target(Ron Paul). Until someone else comes along willing to even speak out opr point out our shortcomings, Paul has been the only one. It is ok to say he has the right message, but the public assassination of his character leaves the next possible leader, rather than stepping forth, to remain in the background. It has been said many times that war is too important to leave to generals. I believe, voting is too important to be left up to the ignorant masses also. When we have women voting for a candiodate because he is a hunj, or simply voting for an R or a D because our parents were is ludicrous, but that is where we are at. The boob tube and the anti-Americans who own and run it will never be overcome. It is their main tool(weapon if you will) that is leading our destruction. Did you ever notice in the countries that have had revolutions or a coup, the militants first targets are the tv, radio, and newspapers, the media in general. As for me , I won't be behind you, but alongside. And Jethro, I do understand and do get it. Call me at 814-336-1579 and I'll go to DC with you to see Jim Traficant.
If that be true, then stop throwing verbal firebombs at your friends and or fellow Americans here on the forum. I would refresh your memory a bit. You being a Union person and all. In roughly my time of recall say since 1900, there has been but one revolutionary that came from the masses, just ONE Lac. All the others, good or bad, have been from the wealthy elite, the intelligentsia, people of national note. Just one has accomplished a revolution. It will take a person of national note to lead the charge for Americans, that is a simple mathematical fact. Ron Paul had his chance, his turn, his opportunity and Americans by the millions,including me, rallied with support and money. The result was Paul was brazen enough to throw us away by issuing an email declaring his love and undying affection for the republican party, for ever and ever. Any and all support and affection for Ron Paul is misguided, his message was great, he NEVER intended to run the race. So get over Ron Paul, not his message, and look with the rest of us to Traficant. And stop throwing firebombs at those around you.
Who would that be?
Show Me Obama's Birth Certificate!
Unfortunately, Ron Paul is the only one of prominence speaking the message. As for Traficant, he is a convicted criminal. While his words sound pretty, he cannot be trusted.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1983/walesa-bio.html Lech Walesa.
There are two types of people in Washington, convicted criminals, and
criminals not yet convicted. There is nothing in Traficants' message that
isn't dead on, IMO.
Yes, quite correct. With that in mind, several of the founding fathers were wanted men by the King. Currently look at what we have, untold men in power that owe back taxes big time, are NOT prosecuted, they hire illegal aliens, pay no rquired SS tax, allowed to pay up, no arrests. As for Trafiant, there is no excuse, in his behalf, he did his time, seven long years, he has paid for his offense. At the present time we have no one else, we are willing workers, needing a leader.
I'll call u today or tomorrow LAC. I'm not planning on staying for the reception & cocktail hour, etc, so I'll be back in State College by 8PM.
Good point. Currently look at what we have, untold men in power that owe back taxes big time, are NOT prosecuted, they hire illegal aliens, pay no rquired SS tax, allowed to pay up, no arrests. Even better point. he did his time, seven long years, he has paid for his offense. At the present time we have no one else, we are willing workers, needing a leader. You are right that he did his time and paid his so-called "debt to society." There is something about him though that I distrust. When I listen to him, I feel like he is trying to manipulate me. He reminds me of Rod Blagojevich. On the other hand, nothing in Washington is done without a reason. There is a reason the two party fraud turned on him. Anyway, I'll try to keep an open mind. If he ever runs for president as an independent, I may vote for him if for no other reason than to piss off the two party fraud. The adage, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" comes to mind.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
He needs a new barber. I'll tell him to lose the starling that has nested in his wig.
That sounds like a plan. I too want to be home early that evening. We'll discuss our plan when you call. It will be best to call me around 5/6 pm. WE have a local high school hockey tournament and the championshi game starts at 3pm. We got teams from Cleveland, Philly, Pittsburgh, and two from Erie County, PA playing in the tournament. Ya gotta support the youth as they are our future.
LOL! That's not exactly what I meant, but now that you mention it....
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Apparently you know very little about Traficant. He definitely was convicted, but in a kangaroo court of our government. You know why they call it criminal justice? Precisely because he was convicted by criminal justices because he stood up to the lousy jews when he stood up for John Demjanjuk. The jews tried Demjanjuk in a kangaroo court and the lousy U.S. government tried Traficant in one of their kangaroo courts. How would you like to be tried in one of their courts? Hell, they can lock any one of us away without even charging us. Cynicom is dead on when he says there is no one else on the horizon but Traficant who knows how rotten our political system has become, and we can thank the jews for the destruction of our system and their destruction has been going on for well over a hundred years. Would you care to tell all of us on here on how you can see a solution to our problems? You are extremely savvy and intelligent to the point you make me feel dumb and stupid. You are so wise and maybe you could step up and be one of our leaders and return us to happier days. Would you like to be called Hayek the Great, or simply the Genius? Let us know pronto. We have so little time left!
Dumb and stupid you aint. If you can attend the Traficant coming out party, you can learn a lot from attending. And have patience with the younger.
That was addressed to Hayek Fan. Gotta run back to the hockey tournament now. Later!!!!!!!!
There is no solution. The problems cannot be fixed because they stem from the mindset of the American people. They want, want, and want and will never be satisfied with what they get. They will continue to elect people who will give them what they want regardless of the consequences up until the day the government collapses upon itself, which, if history is any indication, it will most certainly do. At that point in time, chaos and violence will ensue and the American people, in their demand for "law and order" will latch on to the first tyrant who comes along and promises that law and order. You are extremely savvy and intelligent to the point you make me feel dumb and stupid. You are so wise and maybe you could step up and be one of our leaders and return us to happier days. Would you like to be called Hayek the Great, or simply the Genius? Let us know pronto. We have so little time left! Yawn.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Why don't you grab your gun, start shooting it up and lead the way? Otherwise you are only preaching to the choir. Apparently you will never be satisfied with any candidate. All you perfect voters are alike. With you it is all or nothing. Poor Ron Paul is damned if he does or damned if he doesn't. We've heard enough of your whining over Ron Paul. Now tell us who you believe is out front trying to right the wrongs and who you support. Your silence is either deafening or a blessing! Thank you!
... and join us posting on forums where he'll only reach people like us. Great idea. Resign in grand fashion to make a statement? The statement would be printed in the metro section of a few newspapers, and he'd be completely forgotten by next week. Get real. We've got no shortage of people "spreading his message". No shortage at all. If I had the power to fire 434 House members tonight, I'd do it and tomorrow Ron Paul would still have his job. Anyone who'd do otherwise has no concept of freedom or has lost touch with reality. No feasible replacement for him would be anything but standard politician. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
There is no solution. I disagree! But someone might get hurt. in their demand for "law and order" the American people will latch onto the first tyrant that comes along that promises law & order. Isn't that where we are already at in this country? I say like our founding Fathers, enough is enough and it is time to kick their sorry asses out or send them to hell via the musket or the rope. Or would you be afraid someone might get hurt?
I give him 18 months in office before you start whining about him. Unless he decides to run for prez sooner than that. You'll find some reason to start saying "right message, wrong messenger".
Where are the graves of those you've killed in your revolution tough guy? What? You don't have any? Well go on with your bad self then and get busy! No one is stopping you macho man! DO IT instead of talking shit and waiting around for someone else to do what you yourself don't have the balls to do. Fuck off douche bag. The day you start digging the graves of those you've killed in the name of your revolution is the day you can start trying to chastise me or anyone else. Fucking pussy.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Touche! That message needs to be repeated over and over until it sinks into the minds of all those who have been dumbed down and brainwashed by our corrupt politicians. We have so very much to overcome and so little time to overcome it! We all should thank Ron Paul for his patriotic efforts to this point. I certainly do. No one else has opened so many eyes. Now we need Jim Traficant to run and get this country back on track and finish the job Ron Paul has started.
Fucking pussy. This is the standard modus operandi and the language they use when they are up the creek without a paddle. I believe you have lost it assuming you ever had it. I'll see to it that you get a 2c deferment in the next revolution. That's 2c= conscientious coward and that is synonomous with a Hayek Fan and all the little Hyakees.
And you have the modus operandi of a government stooge trying to get people to write something that can get them arrested. You are an obvious Hal Turner traitor. You call other people cowards for doing something that you yourself aren't even willing to do. You are a hypocrite of the worst kind. As for your revolution, once the government collapses you will see it - in spades - and I will be there with my weapons in hand to support whichever side promises the most liberty. Of course that isn't good enough for you because your goal is to get someone to say something inflammatory enough to be visited by an alphabet agency.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
so would i. in a heartbeat, but that's not going to happen. the system is totally corrupt and controlled. i would love to see Ron Paul do something really radical like repudiate all of them in grand fashion. then pick up where he left off. imo, he'd get massive grassroots behind him. it could be a great awakening. it would be a much better way to get his message out there. the timing is right like never before. again, IMHO.
that's the way i see it happening too.
that's the way i see it happening too. The douchbag I am talking to is trying to get someone to make an inflammatory statement which the government can then use to pay them a visit. I do not believe he is an honest poster.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Pingy... Not my fault you are not a very astute political observer. It is no wonder we have a 50/50 two party system, too many people that are unable to think for themselves.
You should be sorry as it appears you are part of the system.
Fucking pussy. Why do you speak or write such things about yourself? Thank you for letting us all know you are gutless. Thank god you have exposed your cowardly self. Your leg irons and chains are already ordered up for you. May the lord have mercy on your gutless soul.
Says the boy who refuses to do what he condemn others for not doing. LOL! You are looking in the mirror and speaking to yourself. LOL!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Your first mistake and sadly not your last is to spout off believing you know where I stand in the political spectrum. You did the same thing chastising Jim Traficant earlier today. I believe each and everyone of us who post on these forums will sooner or later be investigated and visited by our corrupt government officials and that includes me. There is something honorable and patriotic when those of us speak out with conviction and real knowledge of persons and issues. To spout off with half truths and innuendos(sp) does nothing to help our situation, nor our character. Only fools do that. It is one thing to accidentally misquote or by ignorance and every effort should be made to correct our mistakes as soon as we learn of them. Can you guess where you stand? We may never know why Ron Paul quit the last presidential race nor know exactly why he chooses to stay in the republican party. Maybe some day he will enlighten us. I am 66 years old and not in very good health. I will speak out against the tyranny we are being ruled by when ever I can. Those of you who have no backbone and are awaiting a knock on the door would be wise to just disappear from these forums before you disappear period. Why, just those tag lines you are using may have already got your name on the list. Think about it! There is nothing sadder than a person who has been conditioned to live in fear. I've paid my dues for this country, 4 years in the military, paid my share of taxes and am still paying. Being from the old school with somewhat of an education, I believe I am entitled to speak my mind. If you want to believe I am trying to get your sorry ass and others into hot water with our corrupt leadership , so be it. There was a time when I too was foolish enough to believe in our system. Not any more and I know we don't have much time left til the other and final shoe drops. And to this I say, hurry Jim Traficant and thank you Ron Paul.
For one, I'm not worried about that. I'm just a little indian, not a Big Chief. It's a big country, and they don't have enough people to come get us. It seems to me that this is what keeps people from speaking up. It's the fear that they will get that midnight door smash. But then again, I suppose if they are intimidated by that into keeping their mouths shut, they won't be of much use when things get really bad.
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My guess is China with Mao. But come to think of it Ho Chi Min was a dishwasher in Paris in 1919. Unless you consider Pol Pot, which I think should be excluded because it turned out so poorly.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" If they want you(us) they will come and get us. Let me repeat, if they want you (us) they will come and get us. If they believe we stand in the way of their agenda, bingo we will be gotten one way or the other.
Well then that is the time to go hunting. The more that speak out, the more likely they are to think twice, and then a third time, before coming after us. The way I see it, coming after us would be the dumbest thing they could do. We are not the ones between a rock and a hard place. They are.
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We agree the system is totally screwed and corrupt. But Ron Paul is in the best possible place he can be. There in congress he's a thorn in the side of the system. Making a grand show of an exit in protest would be a flash in the pan. Big & bright, and then it would be over. All it would do is make people like us feel good for a couple days, seeing a hero in action. But then he's gone. And the only people that would be impressed are people like us NOT the people who need to "get it", which is the bulk of Americans. In congress, he's on c-span and he gets on various shows giving a common sense perspective, and the economic crash has proven to the mainstream that he's credible. Out of congress, he loses all that. If you agree with me that you'd fire everyone in congress *except* Ron Paul, how can you also say that it would be a great idea that he resign from it and leave it to the rest of the crew to run? No, I don't hold out hope that the Republic can be saved. Ron Paul winning the Prez was my last hope for that. But Ron Paul should stay right where he is doing exactly what he's doing.
I'm disappointed, Cyni. Both your replies were kinda lame. Maybe an off-night for you. Seeing how I'm in Ecuador, I may well be less a part of the system than anyone else posting here. My expenses into the US economy, and therefore my funding of the empire, is at an all time low.
We don't have the luxury of time. Time is on their side. They have over a hundred years headstart destroying this country and forcing a one world government upon us. They are even getting bolder and hardly try and hid it anymore. We have precious little time left before they complete their mission. They keep smacking us in the face with all this outlandish legislation, robbing us (the poor) and repeatedly giving to the rich. They keep egging us on hoping we won't revolt until and when we will never be able to successfully revolt. When they have enough weapons like the ones that burn people and the ones that make insane driving noises, they will be coming. They have destroyed our economy, our pensions, and robbed our treasury and we sit idly by. Maybe when they come and kill our first born, maybe then we might act. But maybe by then it will be too late. They are masters at incrementalism and are destroying us from within while pretending our enemies are from outside the country. Just remember, roe v wade and the removal of prayer from our schools was basically caused by two people. When they are ready, they will come for our last means to resist; our guns. There was a time when things could be accomplished by turning the other cheek. Martin Luther King tried it and where is he now? Did you also notice our friend Hayek Fan must have skedaddled from this thread? I beleive he might be one of those who lives in fear and is under their control.
I made no mistake. You are a loud mouthed punk, plain and simple. You condemn me because I'm not out starting a revolution that you yourself don't have the guts to start. As someone who claims to be old with one foot in the grave you should be ready to take one for the team. However, like me, you won't. Why? Because no matter how bad things are, we are not ready to throw everything away for a useless cause - and one man making a last stand is just that - a useless cause. It's not time yet for what you advocate, although as I have already stated, that time will eventually come. As far as Traficant goes, I made my opinion abundantly clear and I gave my reasons for that opinion. You are not required to agree with me and I'm not required to give a shit. There is something honorable and patriotic when those of us speak out with conviction and real knowledge of persons and issues. To spout off with half truths and innuendos(sp) does nothing to help our situation, nor our character. Only fools do that. It is one thing to accidentally misquote or by ignorance and every effort should be made to correct our mistakes as soon as we learn of them. Can you guess where you stand? Your every post to me has been nothing but unfounded accusations about my character because I do not choose to trust Traficant. So maybe you should ask yourself the same question. We may never know why Ron Paul quit the last presidential race nor know exactly why he chooses to stay in the republican party. Maybe some day he will enlighten us. I am 66 years old and not in very good health. I will speak out against the tyranny we are being ruled by when ever I can. Those of you who have no backbone and are awaiting a knock on the door would be wise to just disappear from these forums before you disappear period. Why, just those tag lines you are using may have already got your name on the list. Think about it! There is nothing sadder than a person who has been conditioned to live in fear. You aren't speaking out about anything. The only thing you are doing is talking out of your ass about other people because they disagree with you about Traficant. As far as Ron Paul goes, I both campaigned and voted for him as the Libertarian Party candidate in 1988 and both campaigned and voted for him in the Republican primary this last election cycle. It was the first time I've voted for a member of the two party fraud since Reagan and unless Dr. Paul runs again will likely be the last. Now for the government's list(s). I already know that I'm on at least one of their lists, and likely more. I found out when my dad, who has the same name as me, missed his flight because our name came up on the no fly list. Since he's retired with 30 years in the AF and is about as rockribbed a Republican as you can find, I have no doubt that it is me on the list and not him. You know what? I don't give a damn. Fuck the government. I have been outspoken on this and other sites since the days of the BBS. I served in this country's army for 15 years and was sent all over this fucking world as a political pawn of the two party fraud. I have earned the right to say what I fucking want to say and if you and/or the two party fraud doesn't like what I have to say then you can all kiss my lily white ass. They can put me on all the fucking lists they want because I have no intention of being treated like a criminal in order to board a plane any damned way. Having said that, however, I will also not be baited by some anonymous ass wipe into making a statement(s) which the government could use to incriminate me just to prove to him that my dick is as big as his. That appears to be what you are looking for. Find it somewhere else. I've paid my dues for this country, 4 years in the military, paid my share of taxes and am still paying. Being from the old school with somewhat of an education, I believe I am entitled to speak my mind. If you want to believe I am trying to get your sorry ass and others into hot water with our corrupt leadership , so be it. There was a time when I too was foolish enough to believe in our system. Not any more and I know we don't have much time left til the other and final shoe drops. And to this I say, hurry Jim Traficant and thank you Ron Paul. I'll see your four and raise you eleven, for a total of fifteen. I'll be glad to match DD-214's with you any fucking day to see who the god damned coward is. I may not have been a special forces or combat arms "hero" and I may not be a Vietnam War veteran, but I participated in combat operations in five theaters of operations and did my job with distinction and honor while under fire on more than one occasion. I don't know where you get this idea that I believe in the system. You would be hard pressed to find someone one this board as cynical as I am about the government or the American people. You are the one who appears to believe that a revolution will bring back the "good old days" of federalism. It seems to me that you are the one that believes in the system. I believe just the opposite will happen. I believe that the American people will cling to the first tyrant who speaks a good game, just like the German's did in the 1930's. I believe that when the time comes, those who think like I do will be fighting a losing battle running guerrilla ops against government buttlickers like those who post on LP and FR.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
I know this comes as a shock to you, but some people actually have lives outside of the internet and are not able to post 24x7. Believe it or not, responding to your opinions are at the bottom of my priority list.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
We do see this in different ways. You seem to think that they have it locked, and their victory is assured, because we haven't revolted already. The way I see it, things aren't even close to being bad enough for that to happen yet. But it can get to be bad enough overnight. You can only push people so far. The reason most of us are here is because we have already been raked over the coals, or we see it happening to others and we don't like it. When they finally get to the sheep, then the sheep will join in on the festivities. Someone posted a thread here recently about this story www.ammoland.com/2010/01/...illion-plus-guns-in-2009/ . People are arming up. NOt everyone will use them, but enough will to the point that I thank God that I am not a politician, bankster, pig, drug dealer, etc. When it all comes crashing down on their heads it will be a natural result of their own actions. The PTB are not as smart as you give them credit for, IMO. They are just greedy. The PTB behind the curtain are fat little greasy haired sniveling fucks. They can pass all the laws they want to to keep things locked down. Laws won't help them. They are just "goddamn pieces of paper"... About this incrementalism, I see it as them walking slowly towards the edge of a cliff. Not us. But I also know enough to know it's possible that I am wrong. I'm prepared for that. I think there is enough hunters out here to get the job done.
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I'm jealous! It will be a cold blustery day in hades before I ever fly again so I won't have the opportunity to test that list. But I've been inside the mint in Philly a few times, where they do a thorough background check, and some military bases when they check things out too, and no one ever gave me a second look. Oh well, now I have something to aspire too...
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Your reply to me #60 leaves no doubt in my mind that you have some loose marbles and mental problems. Who gives a hoot how long and where you served in the military. You sound like you are another Audie Murphy Apparently you were dumb enough to give them 15 years while I became aware how stupid I was giving them 4 years. All my efforts pointing out(alerts) how little time we really have left before TSHTF were posted by me in hopes there might be some leaders who would come out of the woodwork and those of us who understand our grave situation could join in and do our part in taking back this country. You on the other hand, accuse me of trying to get you personally to stick your neck out. I'm not George Patton. I don't have the skills nor the power to shame a coward into battle and taking back this country will be war. You sir,IMHO, are a coward. You state over and over that there are enough hunters out there who will turn their guns on all the despots in government when the time comes. Apparently you will be snug and safe at the beach or in your mountain top hideaway. As for Jim Traficant, well you are not worthy of being a supporter of his. Jim Traficant is a gutsy fighter. He doesn't like nor has time for wishy-washy cowards. You know very little about him and it appears you have already made up your mind about him. I would ask you who you see on the horizon that will be a big part of the solution to our country's problems, but I wouldn't trust your judgement. Now see if you can make up, find, beg,borrow, or steal some nasty new names to call me because the same old names are getting boring. I like your Clint Eastwood one when you called me a punk. That's really adult and macho!
They can pass all the laws they want to to keep things locked down. Laws won't help them. They are just "goddamn pieces of paper"... About this incrementalism, I see it as them walking slowly towards the edge of a cliff. Not us. i like your perspective and hope you're not wrong.
... When it all comes crashing down on their heads it will be a natural result of their own actions. The PTB are not as smart as you give them credit for, IMO. They are just greedy. The PTB behind the curtain are fat little greasy haired sniveling fucks. I think this is a point that should be repeated here. I agree that too much credit is given to the PTB's. There seems to be this idea among many patriots that these powers are on par with God himself in controlling what happens everywhere, all the time. The great depression was planned, WWI & WWII was planned, AIDS was planned, H1N1 was planned, the cold-war was planned, 911 was planned, and now I hear the Haiti earthquake was planned. While I do believe that there are attempts of national manipulation that takes place, I do not believe that every last event is staged by some modern day Wizard of Oz such that there is no escape and everything is preordained for the next 1000 years, and the only say we patriots have in the matter is how we will defiantly die, maybe taking a couple of their lowest minions with us. (Maybe). Yes the laws of physics & economics are still in play and always will be. The public is a beast no one will never fully tame. Any people at the top, though they have lots of power, still grow old, get sick and die. They still must deal with the practical limitations of whatever power they have.
LOL! You are the one who brought up your military service, all I did was reciprocate. If you don't want to know about others service then keep your mouth shut about your own. I was no Audie Murphy and specifically stated that I was not. I wasn't even in a combat arms branch, which I also specifically stated. You need to either brush up on your comprehension skills or put down whatever it is you are drinking or smoking. That I was in five combat operations doesn't make me an Audie Murphy, it makes me an unlucky pawn used by dishonorable men for their own political purposes. The only thing that serving with honor and distinction under fire means is that I was able to competently do the job I was trained to do without freezing up and shitting myself. And to paraphrase you, who gives a hoot if you think I'm dumb for staying in 15 years? I had my reasons. All my efforts pointing out(alerts) how little time we really have left before TSHTF were posted by me in hopes there might be some leaders who would come out of the woodwork and those of us who understand our grave situation could join in and do our part in taking back this country. You on the other hand, accuse me of trying to get you personally to stick your neck out. You need to go back and reread your posts because that's not what your efforts were at all. Your efforts were to attack me because I don't hold the same views as you towards Traficant. That was your only intention, so don't give me this "noble cause" bullshit. Personally stick my neck out? WTF does that even mean? LOL! Would you like me to go blow something up? Assassinate a local official? LOL! This is an obscure political chat forum where (mostly) like-minded people come to voice their opinion about the news of the day. LOL! If you are looking for more than that then you need to be looking locally because that's where politics begins and that's where the rubber will meet the road when TSHTF. Once your revolution gets going the circumstances in your area will be completely different from the circumstances in someone else's. Besides that, once things get that far, there will be no Freedom4um or any other non-government approved chat rooms, if any at all. Are you so dense that I have to tell you this? LOL! And you call me stupid. LOL! those of us who understand our grave situation could join in and do our part in taking back this country. You are as clueless as the day is long. If this is what you are interested in then what are you doing wasting your time here? Get off of the internet and go speak with your friends and neighbors about gathering food, water, ammo and weaponry for the revolution you have in your mind is going to take place. Instead of wasting your time arguing with anonymous people who likely live hundreds of miles away from you, make better use of the time we supposedly don't have to get together and plan escape routes to various obscure and safe areas of operation. Round up a group of like-minded people and take a Red Cross class on basic first aid skills and community CPR. Gather army field manuals on combat lifesaving, small unit tactics, the Ranger handbook, and guerrilla operations while you can still get them. Purchase paintball guns and rifles go out into the woods and practice fire team and squad level operations. If this is what you are truly afraid is going to happen, then there are a myriad of things that you should be doing locally and whining that others aren't doing what you think they should be doing is not one of them. Hey here's an idea! Instead of whining that you can't find any leadership on the internet, try becoming a leader yourself at the local level by accomplishing the above objectives. But then we both know that's not your real intention don't we. I've received word about you (the e-mail system here is a wonderful thing). You are some bitter old man who shows up here every now and then (probably during a drinking binge) and does nothing but fling insults at people. You are a waste of my time and I do believe that I'm through slinging mud back and forth with you. Have a wonderful day. I know I will.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
It will be a cold blustery day in hades before I ever fly again so I won't have the opportunity to test that list. But I've been inside the mint in Philly a few times, where they do a thorough background check, and some military bases when they check things out too, and no one ever gave me a second look. Oh well, now I have something to aspire too... While it has affected my dad, it has not affected me in the least because as I stated, I refuse to be treated like a criminal so I don't fly. They can stick their no-fly list right up their ass. It does make me wonder how I got on the list though. Then again, there are literally hundreds of people with my first, middle and last name, so it might not even be me they are looking at. LOL! Who cares. Fuck 'em.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
Teddy Kennedy was on 'the list' IIRC. I recently flew and received a pat down after passing thru their detection device. I have no idea why I was selected, and I don't care. If I can avoid flying, I will and if I can't, they can ask me all the questions they want, or even take a peek at my wanker if it turns them on. Welcome to AmeriKa.
This was a typically mild Ron Paul speech, heard by the few, understood by fewer, and overwrought by his enthusiastic supporters. Some donations probably came through on account of this speech. That's fine with me.
I am lucky in that I have never been put into a position where I had no choice but to fly. Several years ago I had to take a trip to London, Ontario and seriously thought about it. Coincidentally though, I watched a short news clip on TV about passenger TSA complaints and that made my decision for me. I drove the (almost) 1800 mile round trip. While the drive was long (15 hours), it wasn't that bad of a drive, except up around Chicago where they were doing a bunch of road maintenance. This summer I have to make a trip to Minneapolis to take my son to a month long wrestling camp. That's going to suck. It will be about thirteen hours of listening to the kids fight among themselves. The I get to go pick him up again. Lucky me.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
I try to get his message out as much as possible by sending the videos out to everyone on my e-mail list and asking them to watch it and forward it to the people on their e-mail list. Hopefully everyone is doing this.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
That is my opinion also. It seems to me that the various abuses communist countries inflicted upon their populations during the 20th century is proof that man will take a whole lot of shit before they decide to rise up...IF they decide to rise up at all. I don't see any type of uprising happening until people loose their access to the internet, cable TV and their video games. That seems to be the only thing the American people give a shit about. They sure as hell don't give a damn about loosing their liberties. Then again, when all everyone does is go to work and then come home to either watch cable TV or play their Play Station, what liberties do they have TO lose and when all their liberties have been taken away, will they even notice? I do not believe they will, at least not as long as they have those three things they won't.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
You really are a trip aren't you? I merely mentioned that I served 4 years in the military and never mentioned one iota of that 4 years of service. You on the otherhand, went into detail on where you served to make yourself look like a hero. Instead, it made you look like a horse's ass. Then you did the bragaddacio dance of having out done my service by 11 years. It is fine with me if you never ever engage me again. You can think what you want of me and so far, you aren't even close to knowing anything about me or where I stand on the issues. You may call me whatever you like as far as claiming I am trying to cause you cowards trouble by egging you on and into making statements that will bring down the wrath of your neocon gods. I on the otherhand will forevermore consider you a yellowbwlly coward who expects others to right the ship of state while you remain out of harms way cause you might get hurt.
Yawn. You bore me. Run along and find the leader you so desperately need so they can tell you what to do when your revolution starts. LOL!
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976 The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat
I thought about that a lot when I was on the road. I had the time to ponder these things while dodging 4wheelers. I'd see all these people in their cars going only God knows where, and wonder how many would be at home on a board like this one, or on a range etc. The thing is, we don't know. Just because it appears that because people are going about their day to day business that they are oblivious to it all because of it. THat, IMO, is an illusion. There is the stereotypical sheeple that most believe are a great majority while we are a pitiful minority. This stereotype, IMO, is fed to us by the MSM. They have a vested interest in keeping these things under wraps and they never miss an opportunity to ignore us, or if they can't ignore us, to marginalize us. If you believe what the MSM says, or doesn't say, then there is no surprise that anyone would think we are a tiny bunch of nutcases in lala land. I normally dont discuss these topics in face to face conversations with people I don't know. But when I did, I've been pleasantly surprised to find like-minded people. I've also seen the opposite. To open things up, I've just mentioned "police state" or "9/11 / patriot act bullshit" and go from there. I think there are more out there than we realize.
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There are a lot of gun-toting 4x4 drivers who are dedicated supporters of the war on terra. They think the freedom movement is populated by hippies, communists, and environmentalists. They have no qualms about voting on machines programmed by Israeli firms.
Lord Acton
#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#3. To: Itistoolate, all, renegades here (#0)
#4. To: Lod (#3)
#5. To: Itistoolate (#0)
Ron really puts it all together in this speech
#6. To: Itistoolate, Cynicom, all (#4)
#7. To: Lod (#6)
Maybe it's that I just want to believe it,
#8. To: Itistoolate (#0)
(Edited)
#9. To: Lod (#3)
#10. To: Cynicom, christine, Lod, All (#5)
Paul should resign, in grand fashion, to make a statement, and hit the road in a long tour of this country, spreading his message.
#11. To: Itistoolate (#0)
700 military basis all over the world.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#12. To: Lod (#3)
Lord Acton
#13. To: LACUMO (#10)
Paul should resign, in grand fashion, to make a statement, and hit the road in a long tour of this country, spreading his message.
#14. To: James Deffenbach. all (#12)
...none of us can do everything but all of us can do something.
#15. To: LACUMO, Christine, Lod, All, other assorted losers (#10)
Why don't you grab your gun, start shooting it up and lead the way?
#16. To: LACUMO (#10)
Apparently you will never be satisfied with any candidate
#17. To: Jethro Tull, Lacumo (#16)
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If he isn't about starting a 3rd party, it will be my last meeting with Jim. If OTOH it's the start of a new movement, I'm there.
#18. To: X-15 (#11)
A (seemingly) kinder, gentler, more benevolent Empire that would have been the envy of all the Caesars.
#19. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#20. To: Itistoolate (#0)
Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Mahatma Gandhi
Vigilance is the path to deathlessness. Negligence is the path to death. The vigilant do not die. The negligent are as if dead already. ~ Gautama Siddhartha - The Buddha
#21. To: Cynicom, christine, Jethro Tull, All (#15)
So you see Lac, most of us are intelligent enough to understand that IF we took up arms, you that does the talking would become mute, do nothing, just as you have with Von Brunn.
#22. To: LACUMO, Jethro Tull, Christine, All, assorted losers (#21)
As for me , I won't be behind you, but alongside
#23. To: Cynicom (#22)
In roughly my time of recall say since 1900, there has been but one revolutionary that came from the masses, just ONE
#24. To: Cynicom (#22)
So get over Ron Paul, not his message, and look with the rest of us to Traficant.
#25. To: Flintlock (#23)
Who would that be?
#26. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#24)
#27. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, Jethro Tull, All (#24)
As for Traficant, he is a convicted criminal.
#28. To: LACUMO (#21)
#29. To: Cynicom (#27)
With that in mind, several of the founding fathers were wanted men by the King.
#30. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#29)
He reminds me of Rod Blagojevich
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#28)
I'll call u today or tomorrow LAC. I'm not planning on staying for the reception & cocktail hour, etc, so I'll be back in State College by 8PM.
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
He needs a new barber. I'll tell him to lose the starling that has nested in his wig.
#33. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, Cynicom (#24)
Unfortunately, Ron Paul is the only one of prominence speaking the message. As for Traficant, he is a convicted criminal. While his words sound pretty, he cannot be trusted.
#34. To: LACUMO (#33)
You are extremely savvy and intelligent to the point you make me feel dumb and stupid.
#35. To: Cynicom (#34)
You are extremely savvy and intelligent to the point you make me feel dumb and stupid.
#36. To: LACUMO (#33)
Would you care to tell all of us on here on how you can see a solution to our problems?
#37. To: LACUMO (#10)
How come he is the only pol you keep chastising? If he pulled along side your capsized boat in his boat and saved your sorry ass from drowning you would bitch because he didn't walk on water when he saved you. You and christine would make a good pair. You both bellyache about Ron Paul
#38. To: Cynicom, christine (#5)
Paul should resign, in grand fashion, to make a statement, and hit the road in a long tour of this country, spreading his message.
#39. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#36)
There is no solution. The problems cannot be fixed because they stem from the mindset of the American people. At that point in time, chaos and violence will ensue and the American people, in their demand for "law and order" will latch on to the first tyrant who comes along and promises that law and order.
#40. To: Cynicom (#22)
So get over Ron Paul, not his message, and look with the rest of us to Traficant.
#41. To: LACUMO (#39)
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I say like our founding Fathers, enough is enough and it is time to kick their sorry asses out or send them to hell via the musket or the rope. Or would you be afraid someone might get hurt?
#42. To: Pinguinite (#38)
If I had the power to fire 434 House members tonight, I'd do it and tomorrow Ron Paul would still have his job. Anyone who'd do otherwise has no concept of freedom or has lost touch with reality. No feasible replacement for him would be anything but standard politician. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
#43. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#41)
Fuck off douche bag. The day you start digging the graves of those you've killed in the name of your revolution is the day you can start trying to chastise me or anyone else.
#44. To: LACUMO (#43)
(Edited)
This is the standard modus operandi and the language they use when they are up the creek without a paddle. I believe you have lost it assuming you ever had it. I'll see to it that you get a 2c deferment in the next revolution. That's 2c= conscientious coward and that is synonomous with a Hayek Fan and all the little Hyakees.
#45. To: Pinguinite (#38)
If I had the power to fire 434 House members tonight,
#46. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#44)
As for your revolution, once the government collapses you will see it - in spades - and I will be there with my weapons in hand to support whichever side promises the most liberty.
#47. To: christine (#46)
As for your revolution, once the government collapses you will see it - in spades - and I will be there with my weapons in hand to support whichever side promises the most liberty.
#48. To: Pinguinite (#40)
"right message, wrong messenger".
#49. To: Pinguinite (#38)
Sorry, but that's the way it is.
#50. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#47)
Fuck off douche bag. The day you start digging the graves of those you've killed in the name of your revolution is the day you can start trying to chastise me or anyone else.
#51. To: LACUMO (#50)
Why do you speak or write such things about yourself? Thank you for letting us all know you are gutless. Thank god you have exposed your cowardly self. Your leg irons and chains are already ordered up for you. May the lord have mercy on your gutless soul.
#52. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, All (#51)
Says the boy who refuses to do what he condemn others for not doing. LOL! You are looking in the mirror and speaking to yourself. LOL!
#53. To: LACUMO (#52)
Those of you who have no backbone and are awaiting a knock on the door would be wise to just disappear from these forums before you disappear period.
#54. To: Flintlock, cynicom (#23)
n roughly my time of recall say since 1900, there has been but one revolutionary that came from the masses, just ONE
#55. To: PSUSA (#53)
For one, I'm not worried about that. I'm just a little indian, not a Big Chief. It's a big country, and they don't have enough people to come get us.
#56. To: LACUMO (#55)
#57. To: christine (#45)
#58. To: Cynicom (#49)
You should be sorry as it appears you are part of the system.
#59. To: PSUSA (#56)
The way I see it, coming after us would be the dumbest thing they could do. We are not the ones between a rock and a hard place. They are.
#60. To: LACUMO (#52)
Your first mistake and sadly not your last is to spout off believing you know where I stand in the political spectrum. You did the same thing chastising Jim Traficant earlier today.
#61. To: LACUMO, PSUSA (#59)
(Edited)
Did you also notice our friend Hayek Fan must have skedaddled from this thread? I beleive he might be one of those who lives in fear and is under their control.
#62. To: LACUMO (#59)
(Edited)
We don't have the luxury of time. Time is on their side. They have over a hundred years headstart destroying this country and forcing a one world government upon us. They are even getting bolder and hardly try and hid it anymore.
#63. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#60)
I already know that I'm on at least one of their lists, and likely more. I found out when my dad, who has the same name as me, missed his flight because our name came up on the no fly list.
#64. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#60)
#65. To: PSUSA (#62)
When it all comes crashing down on their heads it will be a natural result of their own actions. The PTB are not as smart as you give them credit for, IMO. They are just greedy. The PTB behind the curtain are fat little greasy haired sniveling fucks.
#66. To: PSUSA (#62)
You seem to think that they have it locked, and their victory is assured, because we haven't revolted already.
#67. To: LACUMO (#64)
Your reply to me #60 leaves no doubt in my mind that you have some loose marbles and mental problems. Who gives a hoot how long and where you served in the military. You sound like you are another Audie Murphy Apparently you were dumb enough to give them 15 years while I became aware how stupid I was giving them 4 years.
#68. To: PSUSA (#63)
I'm jealous!
#69. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#68)
#70. To: Jethro Tull, F.A. Hayek Fan, Cynicom (#69)
#71. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
Teddy Kennedy was on 'the list' IIRC. I recently flew and received a pat down after passing thru their detection device. I have no idea why I was selected, and I don't care. If I can avoid flying, I will and if I can't, they can ask me all the questions they want, or even take a peek at my wanker if it turns them on. Welcome to AmeriKa.
#72. To: Deasy (#70)
This was a typically mild Ron Paul speech, heard by the few, understood by fewer, and overwrought by his enthusiastic supporters. Some donations probably came through on account of this speech. That's fine with me.
#73. To: PSUSA (#62)
The way I see it, things aren't even close to being bad enough for that to happen yet.
#74. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#67)
LOL! You are the one who brought up your military service, all I did was reciprocate.
#75. To: LACUMO (#74)
#76. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, LACUMO, all (#73)
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I don't see any type of uprising happening until people loose their access to the internet, cable TV and their video games.
#77. To: PSUSA (#76)
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