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Title: ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
Source: News Busters
URL Source: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s ... -funds-media-mum#ixzz0ceNXQk9e
Published: Jan 16, 2010
Author: Noel Sheppard
Post Date: 2010-01-16 13:18:50 by farmfriend
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ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum

By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
January 14, 2010 - 09:44 ET

A scientist in the middle of the ClimateGate scandal received economic stimulus funds last June.

As NewsBusters reported on November 28, Penn State University is investigating Professor Michael Mann, the creator of the discredited "Hockey Stick Graph," for his involvement in an international attempt to exaggerate and manipulate climate data in order to advance the myth of manmade global warming.

According to the conservative think tank the National Center for Public Policy Research, Mann received $541,184 in economic stimulus funds last June to conduct climate change research.

With this in mind, NCPPR issued a press release Thursday asking for these funds to be returned:

In the face of rising unemployment and record-breaking deficits, policy experts at the National Center for Public Policy Research are criticizing the Obama Administration for awarding a half million dollar grant from the economic stimulus package to Penn State Professor Michael Mann, a key figure in the Climategate controversy.

"It's outrageous that economic stimulus money is being used to support research conducted by Michael Mann at the very time he’s under investigation by Penn State and is one of the key figures in the international Climategate scandal. Penn State should immediately return these funds to the U.S. Treasury," said Tom Borelli, Ph.D., director of the National Center's Free Enterprise Project.

Professor Mann is currently under investigation by Penn State University because of activities related to a closed circle of climate scientists who appear to have been engaged in agenda-driven science. Emails and documents mysteriously released from the previously-prestigious Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom revealed discussions of manipulation and destruction of research data, as well as efforts to interfere with the peer review process to stifle opposing views. The motivation underlying these efforts appears to be a coordinated strategy to support the belief that mankind's activities are causing global warming. [...] The $541,184 grant is for three years and was initiated in June 2009.

Potentially adding insult to injury, Penn State received additional stimulus funds to investigate the impact of climate change last week:

A nearly $1.9 million grant from the National Science Foundation is enabling a Penn State-led group of researchers to continue studies on the potential effects of climate change on the spread of infectious diseases, such as malaria and dengue. The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

This grant appears to have nothing to do with Mann's department. However, given the high-profile the university is currently under as a result of his involvement in ClimateGate, it seems absurd that any federal funds involving climate change would be going to this school while it is investigating its chief proponent of this myth.

Maybe more importantly, why are economic stimulus funds being given to a university for scientific research in the first place, especially one with such political overtones?

As NCPPR noted in its release:

"It's no wonder that Obama's stimulus plan is failing to produce jobs. Taxpayer dollars aren't being used in the ways most likely to spur job creation. The stimulus was not sold to the public as a way to reward a loyalist in the climate change debate. Nor was the stimulus sold as a way to promote the Obama Administration's position on the global warming theory...As is often the case, political considerations corrupt the distribution of government funds," said Deneen Borelli, a fellow with the National Center's Project 21 black leadership network.

Despite the obviously controversial nature of this funding and its recipient, I can identify absolutely no media coverage concerning the matter.

I'm sure now that NCPPR has exposed this hypocrisy, press outlets across the fruited plain will be aggressively investigating economic stimulus grants to Mann and others involved in the ClimateGate scandal in order to inform the public about how their tax dollars are being spent.

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#86. To: Original_Intent (#82)

We know from ACTUAL data and readings that the Polar Ice Caps are growing, as are most of the worlds major glaciers.

I hope you enjoy that mouse in your pocket.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Original_Intent (#85)
(Edited)

I don't do Psych games...

you dont do psych games, and neither do you answer legitimate questions, such as: what are the logical consequences of depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: buckeroo (#86)

you're back on bozo too you fucking hack...you are NOTHING but a waste of time, GRACE


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Original_Intent (#85)

I think I'm going to go play on solarcycle24 for a while.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: groundresonance (#87)

He/she/it won't answer you.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#46)

It is A FACT that 90% of the world's glaciers are growing. There is data which supports that.

It is A FACT that since 1999 the overall global temperature has been downtrending.

It is A FACT that the Antarctic Ice Cap has grown thicker.

It was the "glowbull warming" that caused all that extra ice. >(;^{]

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-01-16   23:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: groundresonance (#87)

you dont do psych games, and neither do you answer legitimate questions, such as: what are the logical consequences of depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Charming the old repeat an irrelevant question over and over acting as though it proves something ploy.

Of course it has been answered - a couple of times - you just didn't like the answer.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent (#87)

you dont do psych games, and neither do you answer legitimate questions, such as: what are the logical consequences of depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Which greenhouse gasses would those be? If you are talking about CO2, the logic is that we would reach saturation, if we haven't already, and increasing CO2 beyond that point would have no effect. BTW, water vapor is the biggest greenhouse gas and the Earth is not a greenhouse. Greenhouses warm because of the lack of convection rather than the content of their gasses. The Earth has a lot of convection.

Back to CO2, FYI, the Earth is at historic lows for CO2 content despite the recent rise. Where is the evidence that a rise in CO2, or a rise in temp for that matter, would be detrimental?


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Original_Intent (#92) (Edited)

Charming the old repeat an irrelevant question over and over acting as though it proves something ploy.

so we can rest assured that there will be no consequences from depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

good enough.

likewise, we can rest assured that you have repealed the laws of phyisics.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent (#94)

likewise, we can rest assured that you have repealed the laws of phyisics.

Are you aware that the AGW hypothesis breaks the laws of thermodynamics?


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: James Deffenbach (#91)

It was the "glowbull warming" that caused all that extra ice. >(;^{]

The problem the warmists have now is that bereft of facts and data that support their preconceptions they are left playing games, obfuscation, name calling, and avoidance.

It reminds me of Churchills comment on fanaticism:

"A fanatic is someone who can't change their mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:11:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: farmfriend (#93)

Back to CO2, FYI, the Earth is at historic lows for CO2 content despite the recent rise

An awesome knee-slapper. Are you a regular subscriber of NEWSMAX.com?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Original_Intent (#96)

original intent apparently is unwilling to follow the logic: if co2 is a greenhouse gas, and we've put a trillion extra tons of the stuff into the atmosphere...

nevermind. it wont matter when jesus comes back.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Original_Intent (#96)

Is Global Warming a Religion?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Original_Intent (#96)

nobody wants to think about the if-iness of jesus.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: groundresonance (#98)

You're holding out on us, and I want to know just exactly what will happen if we put a trillion extra tons of the stuff into the atmosphere within the time period you refer to.

I'm breathless with anticipation.

randge  posted on  2010-01-16   23:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: groundresonance (#94)

Charming the old repeat an irrelevant question over and over acting as though it proves something ploy.

so we can rest assured that there will be no consequences from depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

good enough.

likewise, we can rest assured that you have repealed the laws of phyisics.

You are so delightfully addicted to falsehoods. Another false attribution and putting words in my mouth based on your unsupported assertion.

What a divinely scrumptious bit of specious and false reasoning.

At no time have you ever defined your terms or supported your phony question with any factual back-up.

What gases?

From What source?

You assert a vague generality and then act as though you did as Mark Twain once observed:

"Noise means nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she had laid an asteroid." ~ Mark Twain

Any more asteroids to share with us?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: groundresonance (#98)

nevermind. it wont matter when jesus comes back.

What makes you think Jesus is going to save us? Because you read a free copy of Gideon's Bible at a Motel 6?

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeroo (#97)

An awesome knee-slapper. Are you a regular subscriber of NEWSMAX.com?

smart ass


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Rotara (#99)

Is Global Warming a Religion?

Well it is certainly faith based.

Of course that is Robert Heinlein's definition: "Faith is continued belief in the presence of contradictory data."

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Original_Intent (#102)

It's kind of fun running over the Cap'N'Trade Globalist Shills®, then backing up over them again. Then just drive off...figuratively speaking, of course.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: randge (#101)

I'm breathless with anticipation.

we'll probably get another 100 ppm of co2 concentration, which is bad enough, but nobody seems to know when the methane gets loose...

...and if the methane gets loose, we're back to pre-history, which is really kinda cool, because the oceans will turn into algae sludge, precipitate into layers, and after a few hundred million years of tectonic reshuffling, we'll have a brand new supply of oil.

good deal.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: farmfriend, buckeroo (#104)

An awesome knee-slapper. Are you a regular subscriber of NEWSMAX.com?

smart ass

I disagree.

It should be smart ass.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent, randge, rotara, buckeroo (#98)

original intent apparently is unwilling to follow the logic: if co2 is a greenhouse gas, and we've put a trillion extra tons of the stuff into the atmosphere...

German Physicists Trash Global Warming “Theory”

December 26, 2009 · 255 comments
guest article by John O’Sullivan

In a recently revised and re-published paper, Dr Gerlich debunks AGW and shows that the IPCC “consensus” atmospheric physics model tying CO2 to global warming is not only unverifiable, but actually violates basic laws of physics, i.e. the First and Second Law of Thermodynamics. The latest version of this momentous scientific paper appears in the March 2009 edition of the International Journal of Modern Physics.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: groundresonance (#107)

Please lay out the physics and cut the corn.

randge  posted on  2010-01-16   23:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: buckeroo (#103)

What makes you think Jesus is going to save us?

what the fuck, you asshole?

jesus loves me, the bible tells me so.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:24:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Original_Intent (#105)

i wonder how many of these world kommie clowns put their 'money where their pie hole is' and bought heavily into the world kommie, global governance, subsidized Green Scam...i thought about a guy, maybe pickle boy, who mentioned buying a LOT of 'green stuff' type investments knowing the scam was Rockefeller sanctioned.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Original_Intent (#105)

Of course that is Robert Heinlein's definition:

Just GREAT! Bring in the sci-fi authors to support your own thesis. This is just too damned phunney.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo (#108)

It should be smart ass.

Buck is being sarcastic. He knows I'm not going to take him seriously when he does that. Nor does he intend me to.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: farmfriend (#109)

and then you go and run over them AGAIN !

I love it !!!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:26:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Rotara (#106)

It's kind of fun running over the Cap'N'Trade Globalist Shills®, then backing up over them again. Then just drive off...figuratively speaking, of course.

True, but I fear it is not good for their "mental health" (whatever that vague and undefined term means).

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: groundresonance (#111)

jesus loves me, the bible tells me so.

I am happy someone loves you. Maybe they can help you buy a raincoat, thus protecting you from acid rain.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: groundresonance, randge (#107)

we'll probably get another 100 ppm of co2 concentration,

You can't even get the science right. First of all, the oceans are the major source of CO2 and second it is ppmv. Don't forget the V, it is important!


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Rotara (#115)

and then you go and run over them AGAIN !

You notice he/she/it hasn't answered my science once!


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: All (#111)

the main problem being: none of these people are willing to challenge the physics (warming properties) of the co2 and methane molecules.

none of them are willing to challenge the fact that we're putting about 30 billion tons of warming gases into the atmosphere every year.

so what are they left with?

pretty goddamned slim pickings.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Rotara (#112)

i wonder how many of these world kommie clowns put their 'money where their pie hole is' and bought heavily into the world kommie, global governance, subsidized Green Scam...i thought about a guy, maybe pickle boy, who mentioned buying a LOT of 'green stuff' type investments knowing the scam was Rockefeller sanctioned.

At this point investments in Glowbull Warming related scams are on the edge of Cheech and Chong territory - up in smoke.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: randge, groundresonance (#110)

Please lay out the physics and cut the corn.

I did but what are the odds I'll get an answer?


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: groundresonance (#120)

the main problem being: none of these people are willing to challenge the physics (warming properties) of the co2 and methane molecules.

I did but you won't answer my posts on the science. Why not?

Why don't you tell us all about the physics! Give us something to support your hypothesis.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: groundresonance (#111) (Edited)

we'll probably get another 100 ppm of co2 concentration

See, now there you go.

You demand that a poster here answer your query, one that demands a rigorously well grounded reply. Anyone who has mastered forensics knows that the questioner in a debate should damn well know the answer to a question placed to his opponent before he asks it.

Now we get "probably" 100 ppm. This why you get no credence here.

I sincerely suspect that you don't know a damned thing.

randge  posted on  2010-01-16   23:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Original_Intent (#116)

True, but I fear it is not good for their "mental health" (whatever that vague and undefined term means).

Well, not me. As I've always told the depoppers: "depopulation begins with YOU and RIGHT NOW...show me your FAITH !"...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: farmfriend (#122)

I did but what are the odds I'll get an answer?

are co2 and methane warming gases?

how many billion tons are humans putting in the atmosphere every year?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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