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Title: ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
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Published: Jan 16, 2010
Author: Noel Sheppard
Post Date: 2010-01-16 13:18:50 by farmfriend
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By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive) A scientist in the middle of the ClimateGate scandal received economic stimulus funds last June. As NewsBusters reported on November 28, Penn State University is investigating Professor Michael Mann, the creator of the discredited "Hockey Stick Graph," for his involvement in an international attempt to exaggerate and manipulate climate data in order to advance the myth of manmade global warming. According to the conservative think tank the National Center for Public Policy Research, Mann received $541,184 in economic stimulus funds last June to conduct climate change research. With this in mind, NCPPR issued a press release Thursday asking for these funds to be returned: "It's outrageous that economic stimulus money is being used to support research conducted by Michael Mann at the very time he’s under investigation by Penn State and is one of the key figures in the international Climategate scandal. Penn State should immediately return these funds to the U.S. Treasury," said Tom Borelli, Ph.D., director of the National Center's Free Enterprise Project. Professor Mann is currently under investigation by Penn State University because of activities related to a closed circle of climate scientists who appear to have been engaged in agenda-driven science. Emails and documents mysteriously released from the previously-prestigious Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom revealed discussions of manipulation and destruction of research data, as well as efforts to interfere with the peer review process to stifle opposing views. The motivation underlying these efforts appears to be a coordinated strategy to support the belief that mankind's activities are causing global warming. [...] The $541,184 grant is for three years and was initiated in June 2009. Potentially adding insult to injury, Penn State received additional stimulus funds to investigate the impact of climate change last week: This grant appears to have nothing to do with Mann's department. However, given the high-profile the university is currently under as a result of his involvement in ClimateGate, it seems absurd that any federal funds involving climate change would be going to this school while it is investigating its chief proponent of this myth. Maybe more importantly, why are economic stimulus funds being given to a university for scientific research in the first place, especially one with such political overtones? As NCPPR noted in its release: Despite the obviously controversial nature of this funding and its recipient, I can identify absolutely no media coverage concerning the matter. I'm sure now that NCPPR has exposed this hypocrisy, press outlets across the fruited plain will be aggressively investigating economic stimulus grants to Mann and others involved in the ClimateGate scandal in order to inform the public about how their tax dollars are being spent. Of course, I'm not holding my breath.
ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
January 14, 2010 - 09:44 ET In the face of rising unemployment and record-breaking deficits, policy experts at the National Center for Public Policy Research are criticizing the Obama Administration for awarding a half million dollar grant from the economic stimulus package to Penn State Professor Michael Mann, a key figure in the Climategate controversy.
A nearly $1.9 million grant from the National Science Foundation is enabling a Penn State-led group of researchers to continue studies on the potential effects of climate change on the spread of infectious diseases, such as malaria and dengue. The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
"It's no wonder that Obama's stimulus plan is failing to produce jobs. Taxpayer dollars aren't being used in the ways most likely to spur job creation. The stimulus was not sold to the public as a way to reward a loyalist in the climate change debate. Nor was the stimulus sold as a way to promote the Obama Administration's position on the global warming theory...As is often the case, political considerations corrupt the distribution of government funds," said Deneen Borelli, a fellow with the National Center's Project 21 black leadership network.
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I see allegations, but no proof. There are embedded links in the article but in following them, no proof of that grant is presented. I won't just take someones word for it. http://www.nationalcenter.org/PR-Michael_Mann_Money_011410.html mentions it too, and it was credited as a source in this article. No proof though.
And what motive would they have to lie about something that can be easily cross checked? If the grant was authorized and given it is a matter of public record. Methinks thou doth protest too much and in the wrong way for your protest to be credible. If you were trying to discredit the article more effective would have been to call them bad names not attack them on a point their adversaries could easily validate and refute if false.
That's funny! I guess I struck a nerve??? nd what motive would they have to lie about something that can be easily cross checked? Did I say they lied? No. If it is so easy to cross check, then why didnt they cross check it in the article? YOU say it's easy. Why wasnt something SOOOO EASY to do, done? Methinks thou doth protest too much and in the wrong way for your protest to be credible. I protest nothing but the lack of proof presented. An huge allegation was made in the title(!) and it wasn't backed up. Why? If you were trying to discredit the article more effective would have been to call them bad names not attack them on a point their adversaries could easily validate and refute if false. I didnt try and discredit the article. It discredited itself. Just because it goes along with what you and I believe to be true doesn't make it so. Is it true? Who knows. Maybe it is. You sure can't tell from that article. They posted links to everything put their allegation about the grant. Why did they omit that?
I protest nothing but the lack of proof presented. An huge allegation was made in the title(!) and it wasn't backed up. Why? If the basis was not factual you would not have both a Press Release and seperate news article. If you really wanted to know and not just find a point upon which to cavil you would research it. I am not your librarian and I don't vouch for the article, but do find it to be, on the face of it, credible. The parties involved, as I pointed out already, would be highly unlikely to make such a statement if there were not records supporting it. As well we know the far left is deeply entranced by "the sky is falling" scenarios, and always the wrong ones, as there are legitimate environmental issues. So, given the government's propensity for funding politically motivated science, such as glowbull warming I find it highly credible that such a grant was given to a Professor now under investigation for his academic dishonesty. However, if I was really concerned about it I would do the research but see no need to at this point, and frankly my dear I don't give a damn. At this juncture Glowbull Warming is known to be a scam contradicted by various evidences all in the public domain. This clearly is simply a further move to embarrass the good doctor and Kommissar Oh'bummer - both badly in need of it.
It is not up to me to research anything. The article made a charge, but didn't provide the proof that is supposedly sooooo easy to provide. It is their job to do the research since he wrote the fucking article, not me. I am not your librarian and I don't vouch for the article, but do find it to be, on the face of it, credible. I did not ask you to be my librarian. How's that for a red herring? YOu intentionally distract by making another baseless charge. If the basis was not factual you would not have both a Press Release and seperate news article. You're kidding, right? ANYONE can make a press release. ANYONE can write an article. Where is the proof that he got that grant? As well we know the far left is deeply entranced by "the sky is falling" scenarios, and always the wrong ones, as there are legitimate environmental issues. So, given the government's propensity for funding politically motivated science, such as glowbull warming I find it highly credible that such a grant was given to a Professor now under investigation for his academic dishonesty. In other words, you are stating that you believe it because of what was done in the past. We all do that. Me included. But that does not mean he got that grant. That is what the article title was all about, and no proof was given. Evidently he wrote that headline, or his editor did, as a way to get attention for that article, hoping that the reader will overlook that lack of proof in the article. At this juncture Glowbull Warming is known to be a scam contradicted by various evidences all in the public domain. This clearly is simply a further move to embarrass the good doctor and Kommissar Oh'bummer - both badly in need of it. If you are going to intentionally embarrass someone, make sure it is for something they did, or you will be the one embarrassed. Global warming is crap. I dont need a suspect article to confirm what I already know (or believe, as the case may be). Did he get that grant? Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. I really don't know. But you just stated that you will overlook that technicality in order to "embarrass" someone. Do you need a bunch of possible lies to support what you say you believe?
In other words, you are stating that you believe it because of what was done in the past. No actually I ran into an article a week or ten days ago about the Professor being under investigation and in danger of losing his job. I just did not feel any compelling need to go chase down something you could prove or disprove to yourself with 5 minutes on a good search engine. The kind of science he does is routinely funded by grants and if it concerned me greatly I could probably chase down other references. It is you who are challenging the article and in effect denying the information presented. Of course that you have no validation for that it is of even lesser weight than that of the article since it is a transparent artifice to cast doubt upon the information by stating your OPINION. You are most welcome to your opinion but when you play games I will challenge those games. So, elapsed time about 20 seconds here is page one of the search results I got from ixquick using the search terms: Professor Michael Mann Penn state investigation PSU investigates 'Climategate' - The Daily Collegian Online **** The inquiry will determine if further investigation is warranted, a ... One of the researchers in-volved is Penn State meteorology professor Michael Mann. Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate' - The Paper Trail *** Accusations that a professor fudged climate change research will be investigated by the school. http:// Michael Mann | Onward State ** First, we have Professor Michael Mann helping cover up evidence that ... One of the researchers caught up in this scandal is Penn State Professor of Meteorology, Michael Mann. http:// Penn State Professor Welcomes Climate E-Mail Scrutiny (Is ** A Penn State professor said he welcomes the school's investigation... Didn't I read that one of them was going to demand an independent investigation of Mann? ... http:// Michael E. Mann — Penn State Meteorology and Atmospheric Science ** Michael E. Mann. Professor of Meteorology; Joint Appointment with the ... methods for climate signal detection, and investigations ... Copyright ©2010, The Pennsylvania State ... Michael Mann first of climate change scientists to be ** Dr. Michael Mann will be investigated by Penn State University following the release of more than a thousand emails from the world's top climate scientists. http:// Climategate: Penn State Professor Mann under investigation ** Michael Mann, Professor, Director of Earth System Sci. Center Penn State University is home to the largest meteorology program in the nation. It's something they are ... http:// Wider study shows spike in warming - last decade hottest in 1,... ** said Michael Mann, a Penn State University meteorology professor and http:// http://AccuWeather.com: Global Warming News, Science, Myths, Articles said Michael Mann, director of Penn State's Earth System Science Center. http:// Climategate' professor Michael Mann protected to maximum ** You may never learn what really happened between Mann and other leading lights in the global warming movement. That's because Penn State, like other universities, ... http:// Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate' - The Paper Trail *** Accusations that a professor fudged climate change research will be investigated by the school. http://www.usnews.com/ blogs/ paper-trail/ 2009/ 11/ 30/ penn-state-will-investigate-climategate.html - Highlight - 1 more top result from this site Mann to be investigated by Penn State University review ** Professor Michael Mann is a highly regarded member of the Penn State faculty conducting ... Professor Mann's research papers have been published in well ... http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/ 2009/ 11/ 28/ mann-to-investigated-by-penn-state-university-review/ - Highlight - 1 more top result from this site Climategate' professor Michael Mann protected to maximum ** Climategate' professor Michael Mann protected to maximum extent' by Penn State policy ... That's because Penn State, like other universities, treats such ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426954/posts - Highlight - 2 more top results from this site Economic Stimulus Funds Went to Climategate Scientist ** grant from the economic stimulus package to Penn State Professor Michael Mann, a key figure in the Climategate controversy. http://www.nationalcenter.org/PR...el_Mann_Money_011410.html - Highlight ClimateGate's Michael Mann Being Investigated By Penn State ** ClimateGate's Michael Mann Being Investigated By Penn State ... Professor Michael Mann is a highly regarded member of the Penn State faculty conducting ... http://www.newsbusters.org/ blogs/ noel-sheppard/ 2009/ 11/ 28/ climategates-michael-mann-be-investigated-penn-state - Highlight Climategate Scientist Received Over Half A Million From Obama Professor Michael Mann of Penn State University, currently under investigation ... Penn State should immediately return these funds to the U.S. Treasury," said Tom ... http://www.infowars.net/articles/january2010/140110Mann.htm - Highlight Michael Mann, professor of meteorology, Schema-Root news ** Penn State professor Michael Mann, one of the researchers whose messages ... Newspaper Local News - Moses Lake, WA - Grant ... is now also the subject of an official investigation ... http://www.schema-root.org/ people/ career/ academics/ scientists/ meteorolgists/ michael_mann/ - Highlight Moonbattery: Penn State Investigates Michael Mann for Global ** Penn State Investigates Michael Mann for Global Warming Fraud ... Every PhD who gets federal research grants would rather have Mann cut off at the ... http://www.moonbattery.com/archi...0/01/penn-state-inve.html - Highlight ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds - http://WSJ.com ** Professor Mann is currently under investigation by Penn State ... The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and ... http://online.wsj.com/ article/ SB10001424052748703657604575005412584751830.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_RIGH TBelowPepperandSalt - Highlight Hyscience * Professor Michael Mann, of Penn State University, is in the middle of ... These are extreme groups, and some have even come under federal investigation for alleged support of Middle Eastern terrorism. http://www.hyscience.com - Highlight Michael Mann | Onward State *** First, we have Professor Michael Mann helping cover up evidence that One of the researchers caught up in this scandal is Penn StateProfessor of Meteorology, Michael Mann. http://www.onwardstate.com/tag/michael-mann/?mo=1&yr=2010 - Highlight - 3 more top results from this site Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate' - The Paper Trail *** Accusations that a professor fudged climate change research will be investigated by the school. http://www.usnews.com/ blogs/ paper-trail/ 2009/ 11/ 30/ penn-state-will-investigate-climategate.html - Highlight Michael Mann first of climate change scientists to be *** Dr. Michael Mann will be investigated by Penn State Universityfollowing the release of more than a thousand emails from the world'stop climate scientists. http://www.examiner.com/ x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d29-Michael-Mann-first-of-cli mate-change-scientists-to-be-investigated - Highlight "Nittany Lyin': Penn State Helping ClimateGate Prof. Michael *** The Daily Caller: Climategate professor Michael Mann protected to maximum extent' by Penn State policy By Scott Ott It ultimately falls to http://www.infidelsparadise.com/?p=14858 - Highlight Penn State Professor Welcomes Climate E-Mail Scrutiny (Is ** A Penn State professor said he welcomes the school's investigation... Didn't I read that one of them was going to demand an independent investigation of Mann? ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2400760/posts - Highlight - 2 more top results from this site Michael E. Mann — Penn State Meteorology and Atmospheric Science ** Michael E. Mann. Professor of Meteorology; Joint Appointment with the ... methods for climate signal detection, and investigations ... Copyright ©2010, The Pennsylvania State ... www.met.psu.edu/people/mem45 - Highlight Climategate: Penn State Professor Mann under investigation ** Michael Mann, Professor, Director of Earth System Sci. Center Penn State University is home to the largest meteorology program in the nation. It's something they are ... http://www.examiner.com/ x-11224-Baltimore-Weather-Examiner~y2009m11d30-Climategate-Penn-State -Professor-Mann-under-investigation - Highlight Climategate' professor Michael Mann protected to maximum ** You may never learn what really happened between Mann and other leading lights in the global warming movement. That's because Penn State, like other universities, ... http://www.dailycaller.com/ 2010/ 01/ 12/ climategate-professor-michael-mann-protected-to-maximum-extent-by-pen n-state-policy/ - Highlight Mann to be investigated by Penn State University review ** Professor Michael Mann is a highly regarded member of the Penn State faculty conducting ... Then neither should Michael Mann be allowed to publicly address the ... http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/ 2009/ 11/ 28/ mann-to-investigated-by-penn-state-university-review/ - Highlight So, ultimately we can see that it was child's play to cross check the data in the article. Particularly piquant was the link to the Wall Street Journal using the same reference to Fed "Stimulus Funds". Have a nice day.
would you like to speculate about the logical consequences of putting an extra trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere in the last 150 years?
No. However, I would comment that while that sounds like a big number you are talking about an entire planetary atmospheric system so I would ask - from what sources, what means, and to what effect? As well would be comparative studies which: A. Validate those gases i.e, "what gases? Then demonstrate with good science (meaning mathematics and actual data - not fudged data invented at the CRU to falsely tilt the image)that the volume increase is significant in relation to the planetary atmospheric system and attributable to human action - beyond just living? (Of note here is the work of Prof. James E. Lovelock, Atmospheric Chemist, and his "Gaia Hypothesis" which asserts, using actual sciece, that the system is a self correcting one which when taken out of equilibrium will adjust over time back to equilibrium.) B. Demonstrate via actual data the effects of those hypothesised extra gases. We do know, from actual science not Glowbull Wahlarmingism, that based on the analysis of the ice cores analyzed by Paleoclimatologists that CO2 is a lagging indicator of a warming climate. The average, from memory, is about 60 years after the fact of warming.
in other words, you refuse to speculate on the logical consequences of our depositing another trillion tons of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere. good enough.
good enough. Speculation is NOT science. It is the beginning of science but is NOT science. You are attempting to play "gotcha" by leading me into speculation upon a topic which is opinion only. In matters of science I prefer facts, and observations, not speculations. It is A FACT that 90% of the world's glaciers are growing. There is data which supports that. It is A FACT that since 1999 the overall global temperature has been downtrending. It is A FACT that the Antarctic Ice Cap has grown thicker. Given that the Glowbull Wahlarmists already have the territory of speculation and jiggered models nailed down I would not want to infringe upon their territory.
It is A FACT that since 1999 the overall global temperature has been downtrending. It is A FACT that the Antarctic Ice Cap has grown thicker. It was the "glowbull warming" that caused all that extra ice. >(;^{]
The problem the warmists have now is that bereft of facts and data that support their preconceptions they are left playing games, obfuscation, name calling, and avoidance. It reminds me of Churchills comment on fanaticism:
original intent apparently is unwilling to follow the logic: if co2 is a greenhouse gas, and we've put a trillion extra tons of the stuff into the atmosphere... nevermind. it wont matter when jesus comes back.
What makes you think Jesus is going to save us? Because you read a free copy of Gideon's Bible at a Motel 6?
what the fuck, you asshole? jesus loves me, the bible tells me so.
I am happy someone loves you. Maybe they can help you buy a raincoat, thus protecting you from acid rain.
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#2. To: PSUSA, farmfriend (#1)
#5. To: Original_Intent (#2)
#12. To: PSUSA (#5)
Methinks thou doth protest too much and in the wrong way for your protest to be credible.
#16. To: Original_Intent (#12)
If you really wanted to know and not just find a point upon which to cavil you would research it.
#32. To: PSUSA, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, Cud Chewing Warmists, buckeroo, all (#16)
www.collegian.psu.edu/ archive/ 2009/ 11/ 30/ psu_investigates_climategate.aspx - Highlight - 1 more top result from this site
http://www.usnews.com/ blogs/ paper-trail/ 2009/ 11/ 30/ penn-state-will-investigate-climategate.html - Highlight
http://www.onwardstate.com/tag/michael-mann/?mo=1&yr=2010 - Highlight - 2 more top results from this site
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2400760/posts - Highlight - 2 more top results from this site
www.met.psu.edu/people/mem45 - Highlight
http://www.examiner.com/ x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d29-Michael-Mann-first-of-cli mate-change-scientists-to-be-investigated - Highlight
http://www.examiner.com/ x-11224-Baltimore-Weather-Examiner~y2009m11d30-Climategate-Penn-State -Professor-Mann-under-investigation - Highlight
http://www.sustainabletucson.org/ 2009/ 02/ 18/ wider-study-shows-spike-in-warming-last-decade-hottest-in-1300-years/ - Highlight
http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2008/09/ - Highlight
http://www.dailycaller.com/ 2010/ 01/ 12/ climategate-professor-michael-mann-protected-to-maximum-extent-by-pen n-state-policy/ - Highlight
Adding to the search term "federal grant" yields (Professor Michael Mann Penn state investigation federal grant):
#33. To: Original_Intent (#32)
#41. To: groundresonance (#33)
would you like to speculate about the logical consequences of putting an extra trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere in the last 150 years?
#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)
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#46. To: groundresonance (#42)
in other words, you refuse to speculate on the logical consequences of our depositing another trillion tons of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere.
#91. To: Original_Intent (#46)
It is A FACT that 90% of the world's glaciers are growing. There is data which supports that.
#96. To: James Deffenbach (#91)
It was the "glowbull warming" that caused all that extra ice. >(;^{]
"A fanatic is someone who can't change their mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill
#98. To: Original_Intent (#96)
#103. To: groundresonance (#98)
nevermind. it wont matter when jesus comes back.
#111. To: buckeroo (#103)
What makes you think Jesus is going to save us?
#117. To: groundresonance (#111)
jesus loves me, the bible tells me so.
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