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Title: ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
Source: News Busters
URL Source: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s ... -funds-media-mum#ixzz0ceNXQk9e
Published: Jan 16, 2010
Author: Noel Sheppard
Post Date: 2010-01-16 13:18:50 by farmfriend
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ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum

By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
January 14, 2010 - 09:44 ET

A scientist in the middle of the ClimateGate scandal received economic stimulus funds last June.

As NewsBusters reported on November 28, Penn State University is investigating Professor Michael Mann, the creator of the discredited "Hockey Stick Graph," for his involvement in an international attempt to exaggerate and manipulate climate data in order to advance the myth of manmade global warming.

According to the conservative think tank the National Center for Public Policy Research, Mann received $541,184 in economic stimulus funds last June to conduct climate change research.

With this in mind, NCPPR issued a press release Thursday asking for these funds to be returned:

In the face of rising unemployment and record-breaking deficits, policy experts at the National Center for Public Policy Research are criticizing the Obama Administration for awarding a half million dollar grant from the economic stimulus package to Penn State Professor Michael Mann, a key figure in the Climategate controversy.

"It's outrageous that economic stimulus money is being used to support research conducted by Michael Mann at the very time he’s under investigation by Penn State and is one of the key figures in the international Climategate scandal. Penn State should immediately return these funds to the U.S. Treasury," said Tom Borelli, Ph.D., director of the National Center's Free Enterprise Project.

Professor Mann is currently under investigation by Penn State University because of activities related to a closed circle of climate scientists who appear to have been engaged in agenda-driven science. Emails and documents mysteriously released from the previously-prestigious Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom revealed discussions of manipulation and destruction of research data, as well as efforts to interfere with the peer review process to stifle opposing views. The motivation underlying these efforts appears to be a coordinated strategy to support the belief that mankind's activities are causing global warming. [...] The $541,184 grant is for three years and was initiated in June 2009.

Potentially adding insult to injury, Penn State received additional stimulus funds to investigate the impact of climate change last week:

A nearly $1.9 million grant from the National Science Foundation is enabling a Penn State-led group of researchers to continue studies on the potential effects of climate change on the spread of infectious diseases, such as malaria and dengue. The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

This grant appears to have nothing to do with Mann's department. However, given the high-profile the university is currently under as a result of his involvement in ClimateGate, it seems absurd that any federal funds involving climate change would be going to this school while it is investigating its chief proponent of this myth.

Maybe more importantly, why are economic stimulus funds being given to a university for scientific research in the first place, especially one with such political overtones?

As NCPPR noted in its release:

"It's no wonder that Obama's stimulus plan is failing to produce jobs. Taxpayer dollars aren't being used in the ways most likely to spur job creation. The stimulus was not sold to the public as a way to reward a loyalist in the climate change debate. Nor was the stimulus sold as a way to promote the Obama Administration's position on the global warming theory...As is often the case, political considerations corrupt the distribution of government funds," said Deneen Borelli, a fellow with the National Center's Project 21 black leadership network.

Despite the obviously controversial nature of this funding and its recipient, I can identify absolutely no media coverage concerning the matter.

I'm sure now that NCPPR has exposed this hypocrisy, press outlets across the fruited plain will be aggressively investigating economic stimulus grants to Mann and others involved in the ClimateGate scandal in order to inform the public about how their tax dollars are being spent.

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#130. To: farmfriend (#119)

and then you go and run over them AGAIN !

You notice he/she/it hasn't answered my science once!

Science?

They don't need no steenking Science!

They've got Al.


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(And Al is heavily invested in "Carbon Trading". Gee, I wonder if there's a connection?)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:35:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: groundresonance (#126)

are co2 and methane warming gases?

how many billion tons are humans putting in the atmosphere every year?

How does that compare to natural sources of CO2? Are you going to even acknowledge the science I have posted?

Go read Dr. Gerlicks study I posted and tell us where he is wrong. Go read Dr. Niroma's studies and tell use where he is wrong. Can you even cite studies that would counter these excellent physicists?


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: randge (#124) (Edited)

You demand that a poster here answer your query, one that demands a rigorously well grounded reply. Anyone who has mastered forensics knows that the questioner in a debate should damn well know the answer to a question placed to his opponent before he asks it.

Now we get "probably" 100 ppm. This why you get no credence here.

the logic runs like this: we've supposedly burned about a trillion barrels of oil, and coal and gas on top of that.

since the hydrocarbon age began, the co2 ppm has increased from 280 ppm to 380 ppm.

there's supposed to be a trillion barrels of recoverable oil left, which we will burn.

which leads to an inescapable conclusion, rough, but inescapable, that if we burn the rest of the coal and oil, we'll produce another trillion tons of co2.

but again, the methane is the wild card, and nobody seems to know when the methane will get loose, and plunge us into a full-tilt warming cycle.

but like i said before, it's all good, because a warming cycle will grow more oil.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Original_Intent (#121)

At this point investments in Glowbull Warming related scams are on the edge of Cheech and Chong territory - up in smoke.

You swear ? Swear it ! LOL


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:37:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: farmfriend, christine, groundresonance (#123)

the main problem being: none of these people are willing to challenge the physics (warming properties) of the co2 and methane molecules.

I did but you won't answer my posts on the science. Why not?

Why don't you tell us all about the physics! Give us something to support your hypothesis.

It took me a while before I recognized the posting style but our "buddy" groundresonance is a retread bannee.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Original_Intent (#134)

our "buddy"

which doesnt explain, at all, why you are unable to refute my posts.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Original_Intent (#134)

It took me a while before I recognized the posting style but our "buddy" groundresonance is a retread bannee.

There it is, O_I. You lost this match.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Rotara (#133)


ImageHost.org

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:41:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: groundresonance (#135)

which doesnt explain, at all, why you are unable to refute my posts.

One does not refute smoke. One turns on the fan.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Original_Intent, TommyTheMadArtist (#137)

LOL !

I always love that one...(our MN friend might be a morning A.M. fan of The Star / KFAN and can appreciate this...)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: groundresonance (#132)

You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Let's talk real figures here. You know, actual science. Not your back pocket numbers.

Taken from Dr. Engelbeen's site. His paper shows the increase in CO2 is anthropogenic but he doesn't not believe in AGW.

The amount of CO2 emitted by humans nowadays is about 7 GtC/yr (CO2 counted as carbon). The increase in the atmosphere is about 4 GtC/yr.

The natural seasonal exchange between vegetation and oceans at one side and the atmosphere at the other side is estimated at about 150 GtC/yr


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Original_Intent (#138)

the fact remains: co2 and methane are greenhouse gases, and we're putting about 30 billion tons per year of those gases into the atmosphere.

you can repeal the laws of physics, or you can confess to being an idiot.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Original_Intent (#138)

One does not refute smoke. One turns on the fan

In your case, you publish plagiarized pictures randomly grappled off the Internet.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: groundresonance (#132)

since the hydrocarbon age began, the co2 ppm has increased from 280 ppm to 380 ppm.

Do you have something against the V? It's ppmv, ppmv, ppmv.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: farmfriend (#140)

The amount of CO2 emitted by humans nowadays is about 7 GtC/yr

why are you demonstrating debate tactics that hitler ascribed to jews?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:47:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: groundresonance (#144)

why are you demonstrating debate tactics that hitler ascribed to jews?

LOL there you go, win by personal attack rather than refute the science.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: farmfriend (#143)

farmfriend seems determined to prove hitler was right about jews.

pitiful

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: groundresonance (#146)

farmfriend seems determined to prove hitler was right about jews.

Do you think I'm a Jew? LOL Now that is funny.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: farmfriend (#145)

...refute the science.

Global warming is a fact.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-16   23:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: farmfriend (#147)

Do you think I'm a Jew? LOL Now that is funny.

well, i dont think hitler said that jewish debate tactics were confined to jews, alone.

on the other hand, since israelis and israeli americans have such a big motive to deny global warming, it's best to take you with a grain of salt.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: groundresonance (#141)

the fact remains: co2 and methane are greenhouse gases, and we're putting about 30 billion tons per year of those gases into the atmosphere.

you can repeal the laws of physics, or you can confess to being an idiot.

Another logical fallacy the "False Dilemma" a.k.a. Black or White Fallacy.

And of course there are other possibilities such as the physics does not support Glowbull Warming which as expostulated, as opposed to expustulated, violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Which of course by showing a third it proves the either/or fallacy to be what it is - false.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-16   23:55:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: groundresonance (#141) (Edited)

the fact remains: co2 and methane are greenhouse gases

Hasn't the "greenhouse effect" kind of gone the way of the phlogiston theory since up-to-date satellite measurements of irradiance from the upper atmosphere have vacated the levels of heat trapped which is predicted by that effect?

randge  posted on  2010-01-16   23:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent (#141)

you can repeal the laws of physics, or you can confess to being an idiot.

It's AGW that violates the laws of physics or do you think Dr. Gerlick got it wrong?


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Original_Intent (#150) (Edited)

so original intent is intent on repealing well-established laws of physics.

good luck to him.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: groundresonance (#149)

well, i dont think hitler said that jewish debate tactics were confined to jews, alone.

So I post evidence and papers supporting my position, you post nothing but personal attacks and false accusations and I'm the one using "Jewish debating tactics"? You'll have to explain that one.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: randge, farmfriend, wudidiz, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, christine, JethroTull, phantom patriot, ALL (#151)

Hasn't the "greenhouse effect" kind of gone the way of the phlogiston theory since up-to-date satellite measurements of irradiance from the upper atmosphere have vacated the levels of heat trapped which is predicted by that effect?

Do you realize that you just summed up "Why Chemtrails? For Dummies"

I love it when the truth comes together...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-16   23:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: farmfriend (#152)

so co2 and methane are not greenhouse gases.

you have successfully repealed a hundred years of physics.

congratulations.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-16   23:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: groundresonance, Original_Intent (#153)

so original intent is intent on repealing well-established laws of physics.

You have been asked several times and by several people to explain these laws you keep talking about. You have yet to do so.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-16   23:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: JamesDeffenbach (#155)

forgot to ping you to 155

sorry amigo


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-01-17   0:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: groundresonance (#156)

so co2 and methane are not greenhouse gases.

you have successfully repealed a hundred years of physics.

congratulations.

You have successfully proven you have no idea what you are talking about.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-17   0:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: groundresonance (#156)

so co2 and methane are not greenhouse gases.

you have successfully repealed a hundred years of physics.

congratulations.

No, just twenty five years of twaddle.

randge  posted on  2010-01-17   0:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: farmfriend (#159)

it seems to me you'd have more pride than to confirm hitler's description of jewish debate tactics.

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   0:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: farmfriend, groundresonance (#157)

groundresonance is absolutely correct in not just his rebuttal but his gracious character demanding that YOU produce proof. It is your thread, farmfriend.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2010-01-17   0:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: buckeroo (#19)

You betcha sweet booties there is. At least Gore pushed an important issue confronting ALL of us.

I know you're just goofing on everyone here with this crap, but now it is starting to make my stomach turn. Knock it off dammit!


The only real restraint on gummints is people who say "live free or die" ... and mean it. - Enderby

Critter  posted on  2010-01-17   0:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: buckeroo (#162)

groundresonance is absolutely correct in not just his rebuttal but his gracious character demanding that YOU produce proof. It is your thread, farmfriend.

See how sweet you are? I do love your sarcasm.


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-17   0:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: farmfriend (#159)

"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.

"First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid.

"If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about.

"Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.

"But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

"Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

"I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying."

MeinKampf, Adolf Hitler on debating his Jewish opponents

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   0:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: farmfriend (#147)

I'm out of here. The kids are out of ammunition and at this point just prolonging the agony by "Logic Chopping".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-01-17   0:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: groundresonance (#165)

Who's changing the subject here??

randge  posted on  2010-01-17   0:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: farmfriend (#164)

The amount of CO2 emitted by humans nowadays is about 7 GtC/yr (CO2 counted as carbon). The increase in the atmosphere is about 4 GtC/yr.

sound familiar?

groundresonance  posted on  2010-01-17   0:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: groundresonance (#165)

And how does any of that apply to me?


"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown

farmfriend  posted on  2010-01-17   0:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Original_Intent (#166)

I tried to get out, but they pulled me right back in.

randge  posted on  2010-01-17   0:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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