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Title: ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
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Published: Jan 16, 2010
Author: Noel Sheppard
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By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive) A scientist in the middle of the ClimateGate scandal received economic stimulus funds last June. As NewsBusters reported on November 28, Penn State University is investigating Professor Michael Mann, the creator of the discredited "Hockey Stick Graph," for his involvement in an international attempt to exaggerate and manipulate climate data in order to advance the myth of manmade global warming. According to the conservative think tank the National Center for Public Policy Research, Mann received $541,184 in economic stimulus funds last June to conduct climate change research. With this in mind, NCPPR issued a press release Thursday asking for these funds to be returned: "It's outrageous that economic stimulus money is being used to support research conducted by Michael Mann at the very time he’s under investigation by Penn State and is one of the key figures in the international Climategate scandal. Penn State should immediately return these funds to the U.S. Treasury," said Tom Borelli, Ph.D., director of the National Center's Free Enterprise Project. Professor Mann is currently under investigation by Penn State University because of activities related to a closed circle of climate scientists who appear to have been engaged in agenda-driven science. Emails and documents mysteriously released from the previously-prestigious Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom revealed discussions of manipulation and destruction of research data, as well as efforts to interfere with the peer review process to stifle opposing views. The motivation underlying these efforts appears to be a coordinated strategy to support the belief that mankind's activities are causing global warming. [...] The $541,184 grant is for three years and was initiated in June 2009. Potentially adding insult to injury, Penn State received additional stimulus funds to investigate the impact of climate change last week: This grant appears to have nothing to do with Mann's department. However, given the high-profile the university is currently under as a result of his involvement in ClimateGate, it seems absurd that any federal funds involving climate change would be going to this school while it is investigating its chief proponent of this myth. Maybe more importantly, why are economic stimulus funds being given to a university for scientific research in the first place, especially one with such political overtones? As NCPPR noted in its release: Despite the obviously controversial nature of this funding and its recipient, I can identify absolutely no media coverage concerning the matter. I'm sure now that NCPPR has exposed this hypocrisy, press outlets across the fruited plain will be aggressively investigating economic stimulus grants to Mann and others involved in the ClimateGate scandal in order to inform the public about how their tax dollars are being spent. Of course, I'm not holding my breath.
ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
January 14, 2010 - 09:44 ET In the face of rising unemployment and record-breaking deficits, policy experts at the National Center for Public Policy Research are criticizing the Obama Administration for awarding a half million dollar grant from the economic stimulus package to Penn State Professor Michael Mann, a key figure in the Climategate controversy.
A nearly $1.9 million grant from the National Science Foundation is enabling a Penn State-led group of researchers to continue studies on the potential effects of climate change on the spread of infectious diseases, such as malaria and dengue. The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
"It's no wonder that Obama's stimulus plan is failing to produce jobs. Taxpayer dollars aren't being used in the ways most likely to spur job creation. The stimulus was not sold to the public as a way to reward a loyalist in the climate change debate. Nor was the stimulus sold as a way to promote the Obama Administration's position on the global warming theory...As is often the case, political considerations corrupt the distribution of government funds," said Deneen Borelli, a fellow with the National Center's Project 21 black leadership network.
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I see nothing there other that unsubstantiated smears which take opinions then try to twist them into factual inaccuracies without once producing a factual inaccuracy. In other words a hit piece aimed at attacking Mr. Sheppard's credibility. Convincing only to the weak of mind and true beeeeeeeeelievers in Glowbull Warming which is essentially an identity. Nowhere in that smear piece is there anything which factually refutes the stipulated facts in the article on this thread. Is Professor Michael Mann of Penn State under investigation for forging evidence? Yes or No? Was he, or was he not, given a half million dollar grant by the Oh'bummer maladministration? Yes or No? The article you posted is nothing more than an Argumentum Ad Hominem attack on Mr. Sheppard. Your posting of it is nothing more than a Red Herring.
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Sheppard is nothing more than an anti-Gore fanatic. The punk has no credentials other than being a wise-ass on Internet blogs. BFD.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Was he, or was he not, given a half million dollar grant by the Oh'bummer maladministration? Yes or No? Good post. Thanks for the ping.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. It is not up to me to research anything. The article made a charge, but didn't provide the proof that is supposedly sooooo easy to provide. It is their job to do the research since he wrote the fucking article, not me. I am not your librarian and I don't vouch for the article, but do find it to be, on the face of it, credible. I did not ask you to be my librarian. How's that for a red herring? YOu intentionally distract by making another baseless charge. If the basis was not factual you would not have both a Press Release and seperate news article. You're kidding, right? ANYONE can make a press release. ANYONE can write an article. Where is the proof that he got that grant? As well we know the far left is deeply entranced by "the sky is falling" scenarios, and always the wrong ones, as there are legitimate environmental issues. So, given the government's propensity for funding politically motivated science, such as glowbull warming I find it highly credible that such a grant was given to a Professor now under investigation for his academic dishonesty. In other words, you are stating that you believe it because of what was done in the past. We all do that. Me included. But that does not mean he got that grant. That is what the article title was all about, and no proof was given. Evidently he wrote that headline, or his editor did, as a way to get attention for that article, hoping that the reader will overlook that lack of proof in the article. At this juncture Glowbull Warming is known to be a scam contradicted by various evidences all in the public domain. This clearly is simply a further move to embarrass the good doctor and Kommissar Oh'bummer - both badly in need of it. If you are going to intentionally embarrass someone, make sure it is for something they did, or you will be the one embarrassed. Global warming is crap. I dont need a suspect article to confirm what I already know (or believe, as the case may be). Did he get that grant? Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. I really don't know. But you just stated that you will overlook that technicality in order to "embarrass" someone. Do you need a bunch of possible lies to support what you say you believe?
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ROTFL ... By Noel Sheppard As Democrats and their president-elect -- with invaluable assistance from their media minions -- continue spreading climate hysteria in order to raise taxes and redistribute wealth, a possibly inconvenient truth has just been presented to the international community: "The earth is now on the brink of entering another Ice Age, according to a large and compelling body of evidence from within the field of climate science." Additionally, the entire bogus manmade global warming theory that climate alarmists and their surrogates have been forcing down the throats of the citizenry "is based on data that is drawn from a ridiculously narrow span of time and it demonstrates a wanton disregard for the ‘big picture’ of long-term climate change." Such was reported by Russia's Pravda Sunday, and it not only goes quite counter to the junk science being espoused by folks like Nobel Laureate Al Gore and his accomplices James Hansen and Gavin Schmidt, but it has also been regularly proffered by many of the real scientists and climatologists around the world that global warming loving media not only refuse to cite and/or interview, but also disgracefully ridicule as deniers and flat earthers. According to Pravda, it is Gore, Hansen, Schmidt, and all their sycophant devotees that are the flat earthers who are distracting the world from a much more serious climate threat (emphasis added throughout): The earth is now on the brink of entering another Ice Age, according to a large and compelling body of evidence from within the field of climate science. Many sources of data which provide our knowledge base of long-term climate change indicate that the warm, twelve thousand year-long Holocene period will rather soon be coming to an end, and then the earth will return to Ice Age conditions for the next 100,000 years. Ice cores, ocean sediment cores, the geologic record, and studies of ancient plant and animal populations all demonstrate a regular cyclic pattern of Ice Age glacial maximums which each last about 100,000 years, separated by intervening warm interglacials, each lasting about 12,000 years. Sounds much like what the realist side has been saying for years, doesn't it? But it gets better: During the 1970s the famous American astronomer Carl Sagan and other scientists began promoting the theory that ‘greenhouse gasses’ such as carbon dioxide, or CO2, produced by human industries could lead to catastrophic global warming. Since the 1970s the theory of ‘anthropogenic global warming’ (AGW) has gradually become accepted as fact by most of the academic establishment, and their acceptance of AGW has inspired a global movement to encourage governments to make pivotal changes to prevent the worsening of AGW. The central piece of evidence that is cited in support of the AGW theory is the famous ‘hockey stick’ graph which was presented by Al Gore in his 2006 film “An Inconvenient Truth.” The ‘hockey stick’ graph shows an acute upward spike in global temperatures which began during the 1970s and continued through the winter of 2006/07. However, this warming trend was interrupted when the winter of 2007/8 delivered the deepest snow cover to the Northern Hemisphere since 1966 and the coldest temperatures since 2001. It now appears that the current Northern Hemisphere winter of 2008/09 will probably equal or surpass the winter of 2007/08 for both snow depth and cold temperatures. The main flaw in the AGW theory is that its proponents focus on evidence from only the past one thousand years at most, while ignoring the evidence from the past million years -- evidence which is essential for a true understanding of climatology. The data from paleoclimatology provides us with an alternative and more credible explanation for the recent global temperature spike, based on the natural cycle of Ice Age maximums and interglacials. Sounds exactly like what the realists claim, and have been claiming, correct? But there's more: The reason that global CO2 levels rise and fall in response to the global temperature is because cold water is capable of retaining more CO2 than warm water. That is why carbonated beverages loose [sic] their carbonation, or CO2, when stored in a warm environment. We store our carbonated soft drinks, wine, and beer in a cool place to prevent them from loosing their ‘fizz’, which is a feature of their carbonation, or CO2 content. The earth is currently warming as a result of the natural Ice Age cycle, and as the oceans get warmer, they release increasing amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. Because the release of CO2 by the warming oceans lags behind the changes in the earth’s temperature, we should expect to see global CO2 levels continue to rise for another eight hundred years after the end of the earth’s current Interglacial warm period. We should already be eight hundred years into the coming Ice Age before global CO2 levels begin to drop in response to the increased chilling of the world’s oceans. The Vostok ice core data graph reveals that global CO2 levels regularly rose and fell in a direct response to the natural cycle of Ice Age minimums and maximums during the past four hundred and twenty thousand years. Within that natural cycle, about every 110,000 years global temperatures, followed by global CO2 levels, have peaked at approximately the same levels which they are at today. The conclusion: The AGW theory is based on data that is drawn from a ridiculously narrow span of time and it demonstrates a wanton disregard for the ‘big picture’ of long-term climate change. The data from paleoclimatology, including ice cores, sea sediments, geology, paleobotany and zoology, indicate that we are on the verge of entering another Ice Age, and the data also shows that severe and lasting climate change can occur within only a few years. While concern over the dubious threat of Anthropogenic Global Warming continues to distract the attention of people throughout the world, the very real threat of the approaching and inevitable Ice Age, which will render large parts of the Northern Hemisphere uninhabitable, is being foolishly ignored. For what it's worth, Accuweather's Joe Bastardi told Glenn Beck last Tuesday that Russia's Vladimir Putin may have cut supplies of gas from the Ukraine to Europe because he believes the globe is about to go into a cooling phase, and controlling natural gas will give his country a great deal of added power on that continent. Maybe Putin was aware of this article about to be published by Pravda? Regardless, it's going to be very interesting to see how much this report gets covered here in America where our media, regardless of how cold it is or how cold it might get, still believe Al Gore. Stay tuned. Post facto thought-provoker: the climate alarmists regularly proffer that America and the world, regardless of whether or not AGW theory becomes prophecy, should prepare for that possibility. Not doing so in their view would be foolish. Well, what if the realists who believe we're entering another serious cooling phase are right? Wouldn't it be foolish for us not to prepare for that outcome? After all, as most American residences and structures were built during the recent warming phase, they're not prepared for significantly colder temperatures. Neither is our current electricity grid or our supply of natural gas and heating oil. Also, it is MUCH easier to deal with warmer temperatures than cooler ones. Maybe more important, a lot more people die from the cold than the heat. As such, using the alarmist argument that it's foolish not to prepare for a possible outcome, and given the greater consequences involved in a global cooling, shouldn't we be allocating more resources and energy to preparing for it? How might we accomplish this? Well, with the economy in a serious recession, and Congress considering a stimulus package, how about one that offers tax credits to individuals and businesses that upgrade their heating systems, improve insulation, and install double-pane windows? Such purchases would not only prepare the nation for a possible cooling, but also fuel the economy and create jobs. While we're at it, as we're going to need more heating oil, maybe we should fast-track the licensing of new refinery construction so that the inventory of such will be on the upswing thereby reducing the likelihood of price spikes from future supply constraints. Such construction would also create jobs. Of course, if we are going to need more heating oil, we should remove the current impediments to exploration and drilling both offshore and in the nation's oil shale-rich interior. Without question, if Pravda and the hundreds of climate realists predicting a cooling are right, America needs to prepare for it. Given the current state of our economy, proactive solutions should be looked at as sound investments in our nation's future with the ancillary benefit of much-needed job creation. Or is this too logical for global warming-obsessed politicians and media? *****Update: NBer robertinseattle accurately pointed out in the comments section that the author of this Pravda piece has some interesting views about 9/11 that would make Rosie O'Donnell proud. In fact, Gregory F. Fegel, although being an American, doesn't care for his homeland much as depicted in his blogs here and here. How delicious that an America-hating Truther who contributes to Pravda has a firmer grasp of climatology than Nobel Laureate Al Gore, James Hansen, Gavin Schmidt, and most of the folks at the IPCC. Now THAT'S entertainment!!! —Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter. You can twitter him all you want. But he is a liar on accounts not knowing any scientific truth or merit; he is just a bobble-head.
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And there is something wrong with being "anti-Gore"? He is a freakin' liar whose film, if it were shown in England, had to have disclaimers about the inaccuracies it contains. "...In order for the film to be shown, the Government must first amend their Guidance Notes to Teachers to make clear that 1.) The Film is a political work and promotes only one side of the argument. 2.) If teachers present the Film without making this plain they may be in breach of section 406 of the Education Act 1996 and guilty of political indoctrination. 3.) Eleven inaccuracies have to be specifically drawn to the attention of school children. How marvelous. And what are those inaccuracies? * The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct. * The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years. * The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming. * The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the case. * The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm. * The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility. * The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim. * The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia. * The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing. * The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration. * The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim. Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/10/09/court-identifies-eleven-inaccuracies-al-gore-s-inconvenient-truth#ixzz0colvOiAc Credentials or not, he has your boy's number.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You betcha sweet booties there is. At least Gore pushed an important issue confronting ALL of us. Now, I don't agree with Gore on many attributes; but we can't dismiss the nexus or the focus of attention. Agreeing with some crack-pot "anti-Gore" sentiment makes you look like a climber. You are too funny and indeed I think you are so full of BS, it makes Al Gore look like an innocent angel.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
I haven't a dog in the fight, PSUSA, but as you point out the goal for all should be accuracy. Having been the subject of newspaper articles where bums lied and I was under orders not to say a word, I'm here to tell you many initial reports are inaccurate and incomplete. And believe me an arrest isn't an indicator of guilt. Our jails are filled w/innocent people. As you accurately state we are missing a complete investigation in this article. Given the lie that is glowbull warming, and my proximity to PSU, I'm inclined to believe that Mann received at least that much money for being a paid liar for the Climate Scam. If he didn't receive that money, he probably has cause for legal action so the validity of the story is actually on his shoulders.
I understand that. I dont doubt for a second that what you say is true. Some will hurt themselves to accuse a cop of brutality. IIRC that is why they invented double locking cuffs. They would intentionally bounce them against a wall them to tighten them up to cut off their own circulation. I bet, though, that the standard used to arrest a cop is a lot higher than it would be for any of us. Did he get that grant? I wouldn't doubt it. But IMO things are bad enough without making things up or getting sloppy when it comes to proof. If I was on a jury and articles like that were presented as evidence, I'd vote to acquit.
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The whole fucking world is melting and you think it is a "scam." Just like your continuous closet shell back in 1999 broadcasting "Y2K" phenomena around the Internet which never happened, other than your BS. You are out of touch with reality and yourself.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
I would too. I'd want to see the paper trail. I will say this. The Mann story is national, but not in State College, PA. Mums the word in the hills. I've seen exactly one article in the local fish wrap and Mann, when asked about his emails, claimed he was being "set up." He was either not asked the standard, who, what, why series of questions by the reporter, or didn't elaborate. I thought that was an odd reply without him going into detail. I'd be pissed if I were being set up and I'd use every platform available to get my message out.
LOL! If someone told me that, I'd be like a shark that just got a whiff of blood in the water! Either he'd talk, or he would not like what I wrote about him. No way in "hell" I'd just give him a platform to spew crap like that. So much for the press on this one. And thank God for the internet. If it wasn't for that, we'd never have heard a thing about this scam.
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Al Gore pushed that bs "global warming" hoax to line his own pockets. Most people have that figured out but some people take longer to catch on than others. Maybe you will catch on someday. As for your opinion about how full of bs I am, that is like Madeline Albright, Rosa de Lauro or Bella Abzug calling someone ugly. Not anything that most folks would take seriously.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL! That is one of the dumbest statements I have seen all week. Maybe in a month. The little town where I used to live used to have ice skating almost every winter. Haven't for a long time but this year they are again because the lakes are frozen so hard that it is safe. And most of the "whole f***ing world," or at least a big part of it, is having record breaking cold temperatures. So how could it be "melting down"? Hie thyself off to a pharmacy or a Super Wal-Mart and buy all the Ex-Lax they have in stock. It MIGHT be enough to start on cleaning you out.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I been in Texas almost ten years, and I've never seen anything like the hard freeze we had in Harris County of late. All my pipes froze. (A first.) I had ice floating on the pool, and an eight foot philodenron that's been growing next to the house for some fifteen years, surviving numerous annual frosts, has given up the ghost. I can't bear to cut it down yet. The neighbors have pronounced it a goner.
Yeah, ol' pickleroo must be getting his talking points straight out of the jackass's mouth. Somehow it is "inconvenient" for them to tell the truth.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Someone's brain is melting.
Yeah, sad indeed.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Who says otherwise? The REAL issue is the world's climate is changing. Government can't do much about it other than making a few people feel good while they all die of starvation and thirst. But you already knew that, correct? So you bury your head in the sand ignoring the fact that the world is dying. Too cool. Either you are too god-damned lazy to get off the couch or you are too ignorant to [do] much else. Which is it?
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In other words, you are stating that you believe it because of what was done in the past. No actually I ran into an article a week or ten days ago about the Professor being under investigation and in danger of losing his job. I just did not feel any compelling need to go chase down something you could prove or disprove to yourself with 5 minutes on a good search engine. The kind of science he does is routinely funded by grants and if it concerned me greatly I could probably chase down other references. It is you who are challenging the article and in effect denying the information presented. Of course that you have no validation for that it is of even lesser weight than that of the article since it is a transparent artifice to cast doubt upon the information by stating your OPINION. You are most welcome to your opinion but when you play games I will challenge those games. So, elapsed time about 20 seconds here is page one of the search results I got from ixquick using the search terms: Professor Michael Mann Penn state investigation PSU investigates 'Climategate' - The Daily Collegian Online **** The inquiry will determine if further investigation is warranted, a ... One of the researchers in-volved is Penn State meteorology professor Michael Mann. Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate' - The Paper Trail *** Accusations that a professor fudged climate change research will be investigated by the school. http:// Michael Mann | Onward State ** First, we have Professor Michael Mann helping cover up evidence that ... One of the researchers caught up in this scandal is Penn State Professor of Meteorology, Michael Mann. http:// Penn State Professor Welcomes Climate E-Mail Scrutiny (Is ** A Penn State professor said he welcomes the school's investigation... 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The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and ... http://online.wsj.com/ article/ SB10001424052748703657604575005412584751830.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_RIGH TBelowPepperandSalt - Highlight Hyscience * Professor Michael Mann, of Penn State University, is in the middle of ... These are extreme groups, and some have even come under federal investigation for alleged support of Middle Eastern terrorism. http://www.hyscience.com - Highlight Michael Mann | Onward State *** First, we have Professor Michael Mann helping cover up evidence that One of the researchers caught up in this scandal is Penn StateProfessor of Meteorology, Michael Mann. http://www.onwardstate.com/tag/michael-mann/?mo=1&yr=2010 - Highlight - 3 more top results from this site Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate' - The Paper Trail *** Accusations that a professor fudged climate change research will be investigated by the school. http://www.usnews.com/ blogs/ paper-trail/ 2009/ 11/ 30/ penn-state-will-investigate-climategate.html - Highlight Michael Mann first of climate change scientists to be *** Dr. Michael Mann will be investigated by Penn State Universityfollowing the release of more than a thousand emails from the world'stop climate scientists. http://www.examiner.com/ x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d29-Michael-Mann-first-of-cli mate-change-scientists-to-be-investigated - Highlight "Nittany Lyin': Penn State Helping ClimateGate Prof. Michael *** The Daily Caller: Climategate professor Michael Mann protected to maximum extent' by Penn State policy By Scott Ott It ultimately falls to http://www.infidelsparadise.com/?p=14858 - Highlight Penn State Professor Welcomes Climate E-Mail Scrutiny (Is ** A Penn State professor said he welcomes the school's investigation... Didn't I read that one of them was going to demand an independent investigation of Mann? ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2400760/posts - Highlight - 2 more top results from this site Michael E. Mann — Penn State Meteorology and Atmospheric Science ** Michael E. Mann. Professor of Meteorology; Joint Appointment with the ... methods for climate signal detection, and investigations ... Copyright ©2010, The Pennsylvania State ... www.met.psu.edu/people/mem45 - Highlight Climategate: Penn State Professor Mann under investigation ** Michael Mann, Professor, Director of Earth System Sci. Center Penn State University is home to the largest meteorology program in the nation. It's something they are ... http://www.examiner.com/ x-11224-Baltimore-Weather-Examiner~y2009m11d30-Climategate-Penn-State -Professor-Mann-under-investigation - Highlight Climategate' professor Michael Mann protected to maximum ** You may never learn what really happened between Mann and other leading lights in the global warming movement. That's because Penn State, like other universities, ... http://www.dailycaller.com/ 2010/ 01/ 12/ climategate-professor-michael-mann-protected-to-maximum-extent-by-pen n-state-policy/ - Highlight Mann to be investigated by Penn State University review ** Professor Michael Mann is a highly regarded member of the Penn State faculty conducting ... Then neither should Michael Mann be allowed to publicly address the ... http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/ 2009/ 11/ 28/ mann-to-investigated-by-penn-state-university-review/ - Highlight So, ultimately we can see that it was child's play to cross check the data in the article. Particularly piquant was the link to the Wall Street Journal using the same reference to Fed "Stimulus Funds". Have a nice day.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
would you like to speculate about the logical consequences of putting an extra trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere in the last 150 years?
Growing Glaciers ****** Glaciers are growing around the world, including the United States glaciers in the world's highest mountain range could vanish within.three decades, V. K. www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm Glaciers on California's Mt Shasta keep growing **** Article:Glaciers on California's Mt Shasta keep growing:/n/a/2008/07 ... The glaciers have soaked up the snowfall and have been adding more snow than is lost ... www.sfgate.com/ cgi-bin/ article.cgi?f=/ n/ a/ 2008/ 07/ 08/ state/ n130432D99.DTL Himalayan Glaciers Seem to Be Growing : Discovery News *** Perched on the soaring Karakoram mountains in the Western Himalayas, a group of some 230 glaciers are bucking the global warming trend. They're growing. news.discovery.com/earth/...ayas-glaciers-shrink.html FS-001-03--Hubbard Glacier, Alaska: Growing and Advancing in ** Hubbard Glacier, Alaska: Growing and Advancing in Spite of Global Climate Change and the ... Hubbard Glacier has been advancing for more than 100 years and has ... pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-001-03/ Glaciers in Norway Growing Again * A glacial region in Norway (Source: NRK)Scandinavian nation reverses trend, mirrors results in Alaska, elsewhere. After years of decline, glaciers in Norway are again growing, reports the Norwegian Water Resources and Energy Directorate (NVE). (Submitted by LeadOffMan) www.dailytech.com/Glaciers in Norway Growing Again/article13540.htm Alaska glaciers on the rebound « Watts Up With That? * In recent times they’ve been growing, although the general trend over the last 250 years has been one of retreat - as you drive up to the respective carparks you pass markers showing where the glacier fronts were in 1750, 1800 and so on. On the eastern side of the ranges the story is quite differe www.wattsupwiththat.com/2...-glaciers-on-the-rebound/ THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
would you like to speculate on the logical consequences of putting another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, once the shade from particulates fall out of the atmosphere (in about five years) and the co2 persists for another couple hundred years?
How about saying that over the last 150 years the population of mankind has increased from about 500,000,000 to over 6,500,000,000,000. And these lazy people on this web site don't realize that this HUGE change has set forward their own demise.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
well, i guess, then, the solution is to kill a few billion poeple. no problem.
the only problem seems to be: is there any way we can blame god for all those billions of deaths?
It will come to that. War about resources has corrected mankind's population from the beginning.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
well. wars that kill billions will have to be blamed on god. there's not a man in the world that would be capable of such a thing, is there?
No. However, I would comment that while that sounds like a big number you are talking about an entire planetary atmospheric system so I would ask - from what sources, what means, and to what effect? As well would be comparative studies which: A. Validate those gases i.e, "what gases? Then demonstrate with good science (meaning mathematics and actual data - not fudged data invented at the CRU to falsely tilt the image)that the volume increase is significant in relation to the planetary atmospheric system and attributable to human action - beyond just living? (Of note here is the work of Prof. James E. Lovelock, Atmospheric Chemist, and his "Gaia Hypothesis" which asserts, using actual sciece, that the system is a self correcting one which when taken out of equilibrium will adjust over time back to equilibrium.) B. Demonstrate via actual data the effects of those hypothesised extra gases. We do know, from actual science not Glowbull Wahlarmingism, that based on the analysis of the ice cores analyzed by Paleoclimatologists that CO2 is a lagging indicator of a warming climate. The average, from memory, is about 60 years after the fact of warming.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
in other words, you refuse to speculate on the logical consequences of our depositing another trillion tons of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere. good enough.
Of course the world has produced millions of malevolent beasts. Our history is salt&peppered with the bastards.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
well, it would be a good thing to blame god, dont you think? i mean, if you wanted to escape the pitchforks... assuming there are americans left that know how to use one.
Why would I blame a comic book figure from yester-year for our own contemporary problems? It is not logical.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
good enough. Speculation is NOT science. It is the beginning of science but is NOT science. You are attempting to play "gotcha" by leading me into speculation upon a topic which is opinion only. In matters of science I prefer facts, and observations, not speculations. It is A FACT that 90% of the world's glaciers are growing. There is data which supports that. It is A FACT that since 1999 the overall global temperature has been downtrending. It is A FACT that the Antarctic Ice Cap has grown thicker. Given that the Glowbull Wahlarmists already have the territory of speculation and jiggered models nailed down I would not want to infringe upon their territory.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
you guys buy every exxon/AEI-funded warming denial that comes down the pike. logic demands that you answer the question: what happens if we put another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere?
...and it's way too bad that global warming and sea level rise accounts for israel's surrendering the low ground in gaza while it continues its ethnic cleansing of the palestinian high ground in the west bank, isnt it?
ROTFL. You really believe your own Ouija keyboard, do ya?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
You often seem educated although I think you are a bit hysteric from time to time. Read this: IPCC report as you have an opportunity, of course.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Politics masquerading as science.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
LOL ! You're such a stinky turd. The IPCC is another in a long list of 100% absolutely discredited global anti-American organizations, but then you had to have known this. You invested your last few pesos into this Scam, didn't you stinky...shall I continue to put up more flattery for you and your merry band of hoaxster shills ??
You kindly paid for the report because of your generous tax dollars. Why not read it?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
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#14. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#13)
#15. To: Original_Intent (#13)
Is Professor Michael Mann of Penn State under investigation for forging evidence? Yes or No?
Lord Acton
#16. To: Original_Intent (#12)
If you really wanted to know and not just find a point upon which to cavil you would research it.
#17. To: Original_Intent (#13)
Your posting of it is nothing more than a Red Herring.
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#18. To: buckeroo (#14)
Sheppard is nothing more than an anti-Gore fanatic.
Lord Acton
#19. To: James Deffenbach (#18)
And there is something wrong with being "anti-Gore"?
#20. To: PSUSA (#8)
WHen pigs commit these crimes, they are arrested and charged with them
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
Having been the subject of newspaper articles where bums lied and I was under orders not to say a word, I'm here to tell you many initial reports are inaccurate and incomplete. And believe me an arrest isn't an indicator of guilt.
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
Climate Scam
#23. To: PSUSA (#21)
If I was on a jury and articles like that were presented as evidence, I'd vote to acquit.
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
claimed he was being "set up."
#25. To: buckeroo (#19)
At least Gore pushed an important issue confronting ALL of us. Now, I don't agree with Gore on many attributes; but we can't dismiss the nexus or the focus of attention.
Lord Acton
#26. To: buckeroo (#22)
The whole fucking world is melting
Lord Acton
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#28. To: randge, pickleroo (#27)
Lord Acton
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#31. To: James Deffenbach (#25)
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Al Gore pushed that bs "global warming" hoax to line his own pockets
#32. To: PSUSA, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, Cud Chewing Warmists, buckeroo, all (#16)
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#34. To: James Deffenbach, buggeroo, buckeroo, farmfriend, randge, Jethro Tull, PSUSA, all (#26)
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#41. To: groundresonance (#33)
would you like to speculate about the logical consequences of putting an extra trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere in the last 150 years?
#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)
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#43. To: groundresonance (#40)
there's not a man in the world that would be capable of such a thing, is there?
#44. To: buckeroo (#43)
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#46. To: groundresonance (#42)
in other words, you refuse to speculate on the logical consequences of our depositing another trillion tons of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere.
#47. To: Original_Intent (#46)
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#49. To: Original_Intent (#46)
It is A FACT that 90% of the world's glaciers are growing.
#50. To: Original_Intent (#46)
It is A FACT that since 1999 the overall global temperature has been downtrending.
#51. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#50)
Read this: IPCC report as you have an opportunity, of course.
#52. To: buckeroo, pickleroo (#50)
Read this: IPCC report
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
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