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Title: ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
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Published: Jan 16, 2010
Author: Noel Sheppard
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By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive) A scientist in the middle of the ClimateGate scandal received economic stimulus funds last June. As NewsBusters reported on November 28, Penn State University is investigating Professor Michael Mann, the creator of the discredited "Hockey Stick Graph," for his involvement in an international attempt to exaggerate and manipulate climate data in order to advance the myth of manmade global warming. According to the conservative think tank the National Center for Public Policy Research, Mann received $541,184 in economic stimulus funds last June to conduct climate change research. With this in mind, NCPPR issued a press release Thursday asking for these funds to be returned: "It's outrageous that economic stimulus money is being used to support research conducted by Michael Mann at the very time he’s under investigation by Penn State and is one of the key figures in the international Climategate scandal. Penn State should immediately return these funds to the U.S. Treasury," said Tom Borelli, Ph.D., director of the National Center's Free Enterprise Project. Professor Mann is currently under investigation by Penn State University because of activities related to a closed circle of climate scientists who appear to have been engaged in agenda-driven science. Emails and documents mysteriously released from the previously-prestigious Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom revealed discussions of manipulation and destruction of research data, as well as efforts to interfere with the peer review process to stifle opposing views. The motivation underlying these efforts appears to be a coordinated strategy to support the belief that mankind's activities are causing global warming. [...] The $541,184 grant is for three years and was initiated in June 2009. Potentially adding insult to injury, Penn State received additional stimulus funds to investigate the impact of climate change last week: This grant appears to have nothing to do with Mann's department. However, given the high-profile the university is currently under as a result of his involvement in ClimateGate, it seems absurd that any federal funds involving climate change would be going to this school while it is investigating its chief proponent of this myth. Maybe more importantly, why are economic stimulus funds being given to a university for scientific research in the first place, especially one with such political overtones? As NCPPR noted in its release: Despite the obviously controversial nature of this funding and its recipient, I can identify absolutely no media coverage concerning the matter. I'm sure now that NCPPR has exposed this hypocrisy, press outlets across the fruited plain will be aggressively investigating economic stimulus grants to Mann and others involved in the ClimateGate scandal in order to inform the public about how their tax dollars are being spent. Of course, I'm not holding my breath.
ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds, Media Mum
January 14, 2010 - 09:44 ET In the face of rising unemployment and record-breaking deficits, policy experts at the National Center for Public Policy Research are criticizing the Obama Administration for awarding a half million dollar grant from the economic stimulus package to Penn State Professor Michael Mann, a key figure in the Climategate controversy.
A nearly $1.9 million grant from the National Science Foundation is enabling a Penn State-led group of researchers to continue studies on the potential effects of climate change on the spread of infectious diseases, such as malaria and dengue. The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
"It's no wonder that Obama's stimulus plan is failing to produce jobs. Taxpayer dollars aren't being used in the ways most likely to spur job creation. The stimulus was not sold to the public as a way to reward a loyalist in the climate change debate. Nor was the stimulus sold as a way to promote the Obama Administration's position on the global warming theory...As is often the case, political considerations corrupt the distribution of government funds," said Deneen Borelli, a fellow with the National Center's Project 21 black leadership network.
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Al Gore pushed that bs "global warming" hoax to line his own pockets. Most people have that figured out but some people take longer to catch on than others. Maybe you will catch on someday. As for your opinion about how full of bs I am, that is like Madeline Albright, Rosa de Lauro or Bella Abzug calling someone ugly. Not anything that most folks would take seriously.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL! That is one of the dumbest statements I have seen all week. Maybe in a month. The little town where I used to live used to have ice skating almost every winter. Haven't for a long time but this year they are again because the lakes are frozen so hard that it is safe. And most of the "whole f***ing world," or at least a big part of it, is having record breaking cold temperatures. So how could it be "melting down"? Hie thyself off to a pharmacy or a Super Wal-Mart and buy all the Ex-Lax they have in stock. It MIGHT be enough to start on cleaning you out.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I been in Texas almost ten years, and I've never seen anything like the hard freeze we had in Harris County of late. All my pipes froze. (A first.) I had ice floating on the pool, and an eight foot philodenron that's been growing next to the house for some fifteen years, surviving numerous annual frosts, has given up the ghost. I can't bear to cut it down yet. The neighbors have pronounced it a goner.
Yeah, ol' pickleroo must be getting his talking points straight out of the jackass's mouth. Somehow it is "inconvenient" for them to tell the truth.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Someone's brain is melting.
Yeah, sad indeed.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Who says otherwise? The REAL issue is the world's climate is changing. Government can't do much about it other than making a few people feel good while they all die of starvation and thirst. But you already knew that, correct? So you bury your head in the sand ignoring the fact that the world is dying. Too cool. Either you are too god-damned lazy to get off the couch or you are too ignorant to [do] much else. Which is it?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
In other words, you are stating that you believe it because of what was done in the past. No actually I ran into an article a week or ten days ago about the Professor being under investigation and in danger of losing his job. I just did not feel any compelling need to go chase down something you could prove or disprove to yourself with 5 minutes on a good search engine. The kind of science he does is routinely funded by grants and if it concerned me greatly I could probably chase down other references. It is you who are challenging the article and in effect denying the information presented. Of course that you have no validation for that it is of even lesser weight than that of the article since it is a transparent artifice to cast doubt upon the information by stating your OPINION. You are most welcome to your opinion but when you play games I will challenge those games. So, elapsed time about 20 seconds here is page one of the search results I got from ixquick using the search terms: Professor Michael Mann Penn state investigation PSU investigates 'Climategate' - The Daily Collegian Online **** The inquiry will determine if further investigation is warranted, a ... One of the researchers in-volved is Penn State meteorology professor Michael Mann. Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate' - The Paper Trail *** Accusations that a professor fudged climate change research will be investigated by the school. http:// Michael Mann | Onward State ** First, we have Professor Michael Mann helping cover up evidence that ... One of the researchers caught up in this scandal is Penn State Professor of Meteorology, Michael Mann. http:// Penn State Professor Welcomes Climate E-Mail Scrutiny (Is ** A Penn State professor said he welcomes the school's investigation... 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That's because Penn State, like other universities, treats such ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426954/posts - Highlight - 2 more top results from this site Economic Stimulus Funds Went to Climategate Scientist ** grant from the economic stimulus package to Penn State Professor Michael Mann, a key figure in the Climategate controversy. http://www.nationalcenter.org/PR...el_Mann_Money_011410.html - Highlight ClimateGate's Michael Mann Being Investigated By Penn State ** ClimateGate's Michael Mann Being Investigated By Penn State ... Professor Michael Mann is a highly regarded member of the Penn State faculty conducting ... http://www.newsbusters.org/ blogs/ noel-sheppard/ 2009/ 11/ 28/ climategates-michael-mann-be-investigated-penn-state - Highlight Climategate Scientist Received Over Half A Million From Obama Professor Michael Mann of Penn State University, currently under investigation ... Penn State should immediately return these funds to the U.S. Treasury," said Tom ... http://www.infowars.net/articles/january2010/140110Mann.htm - Highlight Michael Mann, professor of meteorology, Schema-Root news ** Penn State professor Michael Mann, one of the researchers whose messages ... Newspaper Local News - Moses Lake, WA - Grant ... is now also the subject of an official investigation ... http://www.schema-root.org/ people/ career/ academics/ scientists/ meteorolgists/ michael_mann/ - Highlight Moonbattery: Penn State Investigates Michael Mann for Global ** Penn State Investigates Michael Mann for Global Warming Fraud ... Every PhD who gets federal research grants would rather have Mann cut off at the ... http://www.moonbattery.com/archi...0/01/penn-state-inve.html - Highlight ClimateGate's Michael Mann Received Stimulus Funds - http://WSJ.com ** Professor Mann is currently under investigation by Penn State ... The grant is part of federal stimulus funding authorized under the American Recovery and ... http://online.wsj.com/ article/ SB10001424052748703657604575005412584751830.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_RIGH TBelowPepperandSalt - Highlight Hyscience * Professor Michael Mann, of Penn State University, is in the middle of ... These are extreme groups, and some have even come under federal investigation for alleged support of Middle Eastern terrorism. http://www.hyscience.com - Highlight Michael Mann | Onward State *** First, we have Professor Michael Mann helping cover up evidence that One of the researchers caught up in this scandal is Penn StateProfessor of Meteorology, Michael Mann. http://www.onwardstate.com/tag/michael-mann/?mo=1&yr=2010 - Highlight - 3 more top results from this site Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate' - The Paper Trail *** Accusations that a professor fudged climate change research will be investigated by the school. http://www.usnews.com/ blogs/ paper-trail/ 2009/ 11/ 30/ penn-state-will-investigate-climategate.html - Highlight Michael Mann first of climate change scientists to be *** Dr. Michael Mann will be investigated by Penn State Universityfollowing the release of more than a thousand emails from the world'stop climate scientists. http://www.examiner.com/ x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d29-Michael-Mann-first-of-cli mate-change-scientists-to-be-investigated - Highlight "Nittany Lyin': Penn State Helping ClimateGate Prof. Michael *** The Daily Caller: Climategate professor Michael Mann protected to maximum extent' by Penn State policy By Scott Ott It ultimately falls to http://www.infidelsparadise.com/?p=14858 - Highlight Penn State Professor Welcomes Climate E-Mail Scrutiny (Is ** A Penn State professor said he welcomes the school's investigation... Didn't I read that one of them was going to demand an independent investigation of Mann? ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2400760/posts - Highlight - 2 more top results from this site Michael E. Mann — Penn State Meteorology and Atmospheric Science ** Michael E. Mann. Professor of Meteorology; Joint Appointment with the ... methods for climate signal detection, and investigations ... Copyright ©2010, The Pennsylvania State ... www.met.psu.edu/people/mem45 - Highlight Climategate: Penn State Professor Mann under investigation ** Michael Mann, Professor, Director of Earth System Sci. Center Penn State University is home to the largest meteorology program in the nation. It's something they are ... http://www.examiner.com/ x-11224-Baltimore-Weather-Examiner~y2009m11d30-Climategate-Penn-State -Professor-Mann-under-investigation - Highlight Climategate' professor Michael Mann protected to maximum ** You may never learn what really happened between Mann and other leading lights in the global warming movement. That's because Penn State, like other universities, ... http://www.dailycaller.com/ 2010/ 01/ 12/ climategate-professor-michael-mann-protected-to-maximum-extent-by-pen n-state-policy/ - Highlight Mann to be investigated by Penn State University review ** Professor Michael Mann is a highly regarded member of the Penn State faculty conducting ... Then neither should Michael Mann be allowed to publicly address the ... http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/ 2009/ 11/ 28/ mann-to-investigated-by-penn-state-university-review/ - Highlight So, ultimately we can see that it was child's play to cross check the data in the article. Particularly piquant was the link to the Wall Street Journal using the same reference to Fed "Stimulus Funds". Have a nice day.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
would you like to speculate about the logical consequences of putting an extra trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere in the last 150 years?
Growing Glaciers ****** Glaciers are growing around the world, including the United States glaciers in the world's highest mountain range could vanish within.three decades, V. K. www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Glaciers.htm Glaciers on California's Mt Shasta keep growing **** Article:Glaciers on California's Mt Shasta keep growing:/n/a/2008/07 ... The glaciers have soaked up the snowfall and have been adding more snow than is lost ... www.sfgate.com/ cgi-bin/ article.cgi?f=/ n/ a/ 2008/ 07/ 08/ state/ n130432D99.DTL Himalayan Glaciers Seem to Be Growing : Discovery News *** Perched on the soaring Karakoram mountains in the Western Himalayas, a group of some 230 glaciers are bucking the global warming trend. They're growing. news.discovery.com/earth/...ayas-glaciers-shrink.html FS-001-03--Hubbard Glacier, Alaska: Growing and Advancing in ** Hubbard Glacier, Alaska: Growing and Advancing in Spite of Global Climate Change and the ... Hubbard Glacier has been advancing for more than 100 years and has ... pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-001-03/ Glaciers in Norway Growing Again * A glacial region in Norway (Source: NRK)Scandinavian nation reverses trend, mirrors results in Alaska, elsewhere. After years of decline, glaciers in Norway are again growing, reports the Norwegian Water Resources and Energy Directorate (NVE). (Submitted by LeadOffMan) www.dailytech.com/Glaciers in Norway Growing Again/article13540.htm Alaska glaciers on the rebound « Watts Up With That? * In recent times they’ve been growing, although the general trend over the last 250 years has been one of retreat - as you drive up to the respective carparks you pass markers showing where the glacier fronts were in 1750, 1800 and so on. On the eastern side of the ranges the story is quite differe www.wattsupwiththat.com/2...-glaciers-on-the-rebound/ THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
would you like to speculate on the logical consequences of putting another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, once the shade from particulates fall out of the atmosphere (in about five years) and the co2 persists for another couple hundred years?
How about saying that over the last 150 years the population of mankind has increased from about 500,000,000 to over 6,500,000,000,000. And these lazy people on this web site don't realize that this HUGE change has set forward their own demise.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
well, i guess, then, the solution is to kill a few billion poeple. no problem.
the only problem seems to be: is there any way we can blame god for all those billions of deaths?
It will come to that. War about resources has corrected mankind's population from the beginning.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
well. wars that kill billions will have to be blamed on god. there's not a man in the world that would be capable of such a thing, is there?
No. However, I would comment that while that sounds like a big number you are talking about an entire planetary atmospheric system so I would ask - from what sources, what means, and to what effect? As well would be comparative studies which: A. Validate those gases i.e, "what gases? Then demonstrate with good science (meaning mathematics and actual data - not fudged data invented at the CRU to falsely tilt the image)that the volume increase is significant in relation to the planetary atmospheric system and attributable to human action - beyond just living? (Of note here is the work of Prof. James E. Lovelock, Atmospheric Chemist, and his "Gaia Hypothesis" which asserts, using actual sciece, that the system is a self correcting one which when taken out of equilibrium will adjust over time back to equilibrium.) B. Demonstrate via actual data the effects of those hypothesised extra gases. We do know, from actual science not Glowbull Wahlarmingism, that based on the analysis of the ice cores analyzed by Paleoclimatologists that CO2 is a lagging indicator of a warming climate. The average, from memory, is about 60 years after the fact of warming.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
in other words, you refuse to speculate on the logical consequences of our depositing another trillion tons of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere. good enough.
Of course the world has produced millions of malevolent beasts. Our history is salt&peppered with the bastards.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
well, it would be a good thing to blame god, dont you think? i mean, if you wanted to escape the pitchforks... assuming there are americans left that know how to use one.
Why would I blame a comic book figure from yester-year for our own contemporary problems? It is not logical.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
good enough. Speculation is NOT science. It is the beginning of science but is NOT science. You are attempting to play "gotcha" by leading me into speculation upon a topic which is opinion only. In matters of science I prefer facts, and observations, not speculations. It is A FACT that 90% of the world's glaciers are growing. There is data which supports that. It is A FACT that since 1999 the overall global temperature has been downtrending. It is A FACT that the Antarctic Ice Cap has grown thicker. Given that the Glowbull Wahlarmists already have the territory of speculation and jiggered models nailed down I would not want to infringe upon their territory.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
you guys buy every exxon/AEI-funded warming denial that comes down the pike. logic demands that you answer the question: what happens if we put another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere?
...and it's way too bad that global warming and sea level rise accounts for israel's surrendering the low ground in gaza while it continues its ethnic cleansing of the palestinian high ground in the west bank, isnt it?
ROTFL. You really believe your own Ouija keyboard, do ya?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
You often seem educated although I think you are a bit hysteric from time to time. Read this: IPCC report as you have an opportunity, of course.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Politics masquerading as science.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
LOL ! You're such a stinky turd. The IPCC is another in a long list of 100% absolutely discredited global anti-American organizations, but then you had to have known this. You invested your last few pesos into this Scam, didn't you stinky...shall I continue to put up more flattery for you and your merry band of hoaxster shills ??
You kindly paid for the report because of your generous tax dollars. Why not read it?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
want to hazard a guess as to why israel turned lowland gaza back to the palestinians while it continues grabbing palestinians' high ground in the west bank?
Not that into global political propaganda.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
Nope.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
Al Gore-linked Goddard Institute claimed “hottest October on record” after using temperature figures from September Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Monday, November 17, 2008 Climate scientists allied with the IPCC have been caught citing fake data to make the case that global warming is accelerating, a shocking example of mass public deception that could spell the beginning of the end for the acceptance of man-made climate change theories. On Monday, NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), run by Al Gore’s chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, announced that last month was the hottest October on record. “This was startling,” reports the London Telegraph. “Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month, from the American Great Plains to China, and from the Alps to New Zealand. China’s official news agency reported that Tibet had suffered its “worst snowstorm ever”. In the US, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration registered 63 local snowfall records and 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month, and ranked it as only the 70th-warmest October in 114 years.” It soon came to light that the data produced by NASA to make the claim, and in particular temperature records covering large areas of Russia, was merely carried over from the previous month. NASA had used temperature records from the naturally hotter month of September and claimed they represented temperature figures in October. When NASA was confronted with this glaring error, they then attempted to compensate for the lower temperatures in Russia by claiming they had discovered a new “hotspot” in the Arctic, despite satellite imagery clearly showing that Arctic sea ice had massively expanded its coverage by 30 per cent, an area the size of Germany, since summer 2007. The figures published by Dr Hansen’s institute are one of the primary sets of data used by the IPCC to promote its case for man-made global warming and they are widely quoted because they consistently show higher temperatures than other figures. “Yet last week’s latest episode is far from the first time Dr Hansen’s methodology has been called in question,” reports the Telegraph. “In 2007 he was forced by Mr Watts and Mr McIntyre to revise his published figures for US surface temperatures, to show that the hottest decade of the 20th century was not the 1990s, as he had claimed, but the 1930s.” Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the IPCC and a close ally of Hansen, also raised eyebrows recently during a presentation in Australia, during which he claimed that global temperatures have recently been rising “very much faster” than ever as he cited a graph showing purported temperature increases over the last decade. In fact, as even the vast majority of man-made global warming advocates will concede, temperatures since 1998 have moved sideways and over the last 18 months they have clearly begun a downward trend. Whether such “mistakes” are made in genuine error or are part of a politicized push for man-made global warming to be universally accepted, and the evidence clearly suggests that latter is the case, the fact is that we can no longer tolerate the cry that “the debate is over” on man-made global warming in light of such gargantuan falsehoods. Likewise, the push for carbon emissions to be reduced by 80 per cent or more, a figure that would completely cripple western economies and lower living standards to a near third world level, can no longer be accepted as a reasonable course of action now that the primary authority on man-made global warming, the UN IPCC, has been proven to be using fraudulent data to make its case. Foisted upon the public by means of giant multi-million dollar PR campaigns and brainwashing mandates that have worked themselves into every sector of society, including education, movies, television the arts and culture, all the attention and funding is being lavished upon a manufactured hoax, peddled with the aid of phony data, as governments prepare to suck what’s left out of the middle class and poor with carbon taxes that do nothing to help the environment, while all the real environmental problems are left in the shadows. IPCC Scientists Caught Producing False Data To Push Global Warming
Are you saying, ignorance is bliss?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
The IPCC is doing exactly what it was created to do. Its charter plainly states that global warming is anthropogenic. Its sole purpose was to lay out a strategy for dealing with it. It was never intended to be a scientific investigation of the validity of AGW.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
you dont want to speculate on why israel is turning lowlands in gaza back to palestinians while continuing its ethnic cleansing of the high ground in the west bank. i dont blame you.
LOL, no just that it would be a waste of time better spent else where.
"The only thing better than a Federal Reserve audit would be a Federal Reserve autopsy." ~ unknown
one of the resident knuckledraggers was unwilling to speculate on the logical consequences of our depositing another trillion tons of greenhouse gases into that atmosphere. what about you?
What happens when the world population climbs dramatically without assessment?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
Climategate emails force Al Gore to cancel talk at Copenhagen Al Gore's scheduled December 16th speech with the auspicious title "Climate Conclusion" has been canceled amid the scandal of Climategate. About 3,000 Danes had tickets for the Berlinske Media event that was announced in August. Al Gore has been the poster child for Global Warming, but has been under scrutiny from scientists who argue against the findings of humans' involvement in our climate. This was highlighted in the documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle. A British court had ruled that there were 9 factual errors [LOL !] in An Inconvenient Truth, yet it still won an Academy Award in 2007, along with the Nobel Prize shared with the IPCC. Again in November, mistakes were found in Al Gore's new book begin with the cover. While some are trying to explain away the cancellation, it seems pretty obvious that there is too much skepticism to show up in a large public forum like this. Mr. Gore had to deal with some hard questions at a book signing this past week, and had the readers escorted away rather than discuss Climategate. See that video at the bottom of this post. Unfortunately this apears like a direct attack, but this is all about getting the truth out. The conference on Global Climate is still scheduled to include 100 world leaders, but has come under attack for fraud and deceit. On Tuesday, Australia's Senate voted against their Carbon Trading bill, a measure that Prime Minister Kevin Rudd Last week, Penn State's Michael Mann was placed under investigation after being implicated for his 'trick' in changing old data to make current temperatures look warmer. Unfortunately the old original data was erased, a serious blow to the scientific process. CEI intends to sue NASA Goddard for Climate Change fraud based on 'Freedom of Information'. On Tuesday, The University of East Anglia's Phil Jones was forced to step down as director of the world renown Climate Research Unit due to an investigation of his involvement in the fraud. Rasumssen Reports released today from ClimateDepot.com shows the distrust more Americans have on this issue: "Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Americans say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data to support their own theories and beliefs about global warming. Thirty-five percent (35%) say it’s Very Likely. Just 26% say it’s not very or not at all likely that some scientists falsified data. This skepticism does not appear to be the result of the recent disclosure of e-mails confirming such data falsification as part of the so- called “Climategate” scandal. Just 20% of Americans say they’ve followed news reports about those e-mails Very Closely, while another 29% have followed them Somewhat Closely." This past year, The Skeptics Handbook was released by Australia's own Joanne Nova as a way to simplify the debate with four main points. 1. The Greenhouse signature is missing. 2. The strongest evidence was the ice cores, but newer, more detailed data turned the theory inside out. 3. Temperature is not rising. 4. Carbon Dioxide is already doing almost all of the warming it can do.
are you, too, impervious to logic? or have you repealed the laws of physics?
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The whole fucking world is melting
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#28. To: randge, pickleroo (#27)
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Al Gore pushed that bs "global warming" hoax to line his own pockets
#32. To: PSUSA, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, Cud Chewing Warmists, buckeroo, all (#16)
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#33. To: Original_Intent (#32)
#34. To: James Deffenbach, buggeroo, buckeroo, farmfriend, randge, Jethro Tull, PSUSA, all (#26)
#35. To: Original_Intent (#34)
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#36. To: groundresonance (#33)
#37. To: buckeroo (#36)
#38. To: buckeroo (#36)
#39. To: groundresonance (#37)
#40. To: buckeroo (#39)
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#41. To: groundresonance (#33)
would you like to speculate about the logical consequences of putting an extra trillion tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere in the last 150 years?
#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)
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#43. To: groundresonance (#40)
there's not a man in the world that would be capable of such a thing, is there?
#44. To: buckeroo (#43)
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#45. To: groundresonance (#44)
#46. To: groundresonance (#42)
in other words, you refuse to speculate on the logical consequences of our depositing another trillion tons of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere.
#47. To: Original_Intent (#46)
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#48. To: Original_Intent (#46)
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#49. To: Original_Intent (#46)
It is A FACT that 90% of the world's glaciers are growing.
#50. To: Original_Intent (#46)
It is A FACT that since 1999 the overall global temperature has been downtrending.
#51. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#50)
Read this: IPCC report as you have an opportunity, of course.
#52. To: buckeroo, pickleroo (#50)
Read this: IPCC report
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#53. To: farmfriend (#51)
#54. To: farmfriend (#51)
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Politics masquerading as science.
#55. To: buckeroo (#53)
Why not read it?
#56. To: groundresonance (#54)
want to hazard a guess
#57. To: buckeroo (#53)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#58. To: farmfriend (#55)
#59. To: Rotara, buckeroo (#52)
#60. To: farmfriend (#56)
#61. To: buckeroo (#58)
Are you saying, ignorance is bliss?
#62. To: farmfriend (#59)
#63. To: farmfriend (#59)
The IPCC is doing exactly what it was created to do. Its charter plainly states that global warming is anthropogenic.
#64. To: farmfriend, buckleroo, pickleroo, patriot scammer, everyone say goodbye because he went round the bend and ain't coming home (#59)
The IPCC is doing exactly what it was created to do. Its charter plainly states that global warming is anthropogenic. Its sole purpose was to lay out a strategy for dealing with it. It was never intended to be a scientific investigation of the validity of AGW.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#65. To: farmfriend (#61)
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